0:00:00.835,0:00:04.765 I promise you that I will not sing.[br]I will spare you that, at least. 0:00:04.789,0:00:07.769 But I am a historian 0:00:08.663,0:00:12.013 with a background in philosophy, 0:00:12.037,0:00:16.868 and my main area of research is basically[br]the history of Southeast Asia, 0:00:16.892,0:00:21.054 with a focus on 19th-century[br]colonial Southeast Asia. 0:00:21.078,0:00:22.416 And over the last few years, 0:00:22.440,0:00:29.406 what I've been doing is really[br]tracing the history of certain ideas 0:00:29.430,0:00:31.504 that shape our viewpoint, 0:00:31.528,0:00:33.839 the way we in Asia, in Southeast Asia, 0:00:33.863,0:00:36.787 look at ourselves[br]and understand ourselves. 0:00:36.811,0:00:42.891 Now, there's one thing[br]that I cannot explain 0:00:42.915,0:00:44.071 as a historian, 0:00:44.095,0:00:47.663 and this has been puzzling me[br]for a long time, 0:00:47.687,0:00:54.687 and this is how and why[br]certain ideas, certain viewpoints 0:00:54.711,0:00:57.999 do not seem to ever go away. 0:00:58.711,0:00:59.975 And I don't know why. 0:01:00.967,0:01:02.118 And in particular, 0:01:02.142,0:01:08.056 I'm interested to understand why[br]some people -- not all, by all means -- 0:01:08.080,0:01:13.795 but some people[br]in postcolonial Asia 0:01:13.819,0:01:20.464 still hold on to a somewhat romanticized[br]view of the colonial past, 0:01:20.488,0:01:23.144 see it through kind of rose-tinted lenses 0:01:23.168,0:01:28.244 as perhaps a time that was[br]benevolent or nice or pleasant, 0:01:28.268,0:01:33.674 even though historians know[br]the realities of the violence 0:01:33.698,0:01:34.894 and the oppression 0:01:34.918,0:01:38.184 and the darker side[br]of that entire colonial experience. 0:01:38.208,0:01:42.301 So let's imagine that I build[br]a time machine for myself. 0:01:42.325,0:01:43.420 (Makes beeping noises) 0:01:43.444,0:01:45.905 I build a time machine, 0:01:45.929,0:01:47.756 I send myself back to the 1860s, 0:01:47.780,0:01:50.290 a hundred years before I was born. 0:01:51.000,0:01:52.824 Oh dear, I've just dated myself. 0:01:52.848,0:01:56.212 OK, I go back a hundred years[br]before I was born. 0:01:56.236,0:02:00.565 Now, if I were to find myself[br]in the context of colonial Southeast Asia 0:02:00.589,0:02:02.054 in the 19th century, 0:02:03.142,0:02:04.560 I would not be a professor. 0:02:05.329,0:02:06.911 Historians know this. 0:02:07.610,0:02:09.633 And yet, despite that, 0:02:11.253,0:02:15.135 there's still some quarters that somehow[br]want to hold on to this idea 0:02:15.159,0:02:18.481 that that past was not as murky, 0:02:18.505,0:02:21.873 that there was a romanticized side to it. 0:02:21.897,0:02:23.934 Now, here is where I, as a historian, 0:02:23.958,0:02:26.604 I encounter the limits of history, 0:02:26.628,0:02:28.905 because I can trace ideas. 0:02:28.929,0:02:34.293 I can find out the origins[br]of certain clichés, certain stereotypes. 0:02:34.317,0:02:38.161 I can tell you who came up with it,[br]where and when and in which book. 0:02:38.185,0:02:39.815 But there's one thing I cannot do: 0:02:39.839,0:02:46.266 I cannot get into the internal[br]subjective mental universe of someone 0:02:47.083,0:02:48.496 and change their mind. 0:02:49.790,0:02:53.130 And I think this is where and why,[br]over the last few years, 0:02:53.154,0:02:56.868 I'm increasingly drawn[br]to things like psychology 0:02:56.892,0:02:58.528 and cognitive behavioral therapy; 0:02:58.552,0:03:03.098 because in these fields,[br]scholars look at the persistence of ideas. 0:03:03.122,0:03:05.997 Why do some people[br]have certain prejudices? 0:03:06.021,0:03:09.617 Why are there certain biases,[br]certain phobias? 0:03:09.641,0:03:15.266 We live, unfortunately, sadly, in a world[br]where, still, misogyny persists, 0:03:15.290,0:03:17.704 racism persists, all kinds of phobias. 0:03:17.728,0:03:20.542 Islamophobia, for instance, is now a term. 0:03:20.566,0:03:23.258 And why do these ideas persist? 0:03:24.456,0:03:28.088 Many scholars agree that it's partly[br]because, when looking at the world, 0:03:28.112,0:03:30.511 we fall back, we fall back, we fall back 0:03:30.535,0:03:32.413 on a finite pool, 0:03:32.437,0:03:36.431 a small pool of basic ideas[br]that don't get challenged. 0:03:36.871,0:03:40.842 Look at how we, particularly us[br]in Southeast Asia, 0:03:40.866,0:03:44.725 represent ourselves to ourselves[br]and to the world. 0:03:44.749,0:03:46.261 Look at how often, 0:03:46.285,0:03:50.474 when we talk about ourselves,[br]my viewpoint, my identity, our identity, 0:03:50.498,0:03:53.664 invariably, we fall back, we fall back,[br]we fall back, we fall back 0:03:53.688,0:03:55.514 on the same set of ideas, 0:03:55.538,0:03:59.776 all of which have histories of their own. 0:04:00.446,0:04:02.506 Very simple example: 0:04:02.530,0:04:04.015 we live in Southeast Asia, 0:04:04.039,0:04:07.199 which is very popular with tourists[br]from all over the world. 0:04:07.223,0:04:09.743 And I don't think that's[br]a bad thing, by the way. 0:04:09.767,0:04:13.070 I think it's good[br]that tourists come to Southeast Asia 0:04:13.094,0:04:15.886 because it's part and parcel[br]of broadening your worldview 0:04:15.910,0:04:17.770 and meeting cultures, etc, etc. 0:04:17.794,0:04:22.527 But look at how we represent ourselves 0:04:22.551,0:04:25.848 through the tourist campaigns,[br]the tourist ads that we produce. 0:04:25.872,0:04:30.111 There will be the obligatory coconut tree,[br]banana tree, orangutan. 0:04:30.135,0:04:31.349 (Laughter) 0:04:31.373,0:04:33.334 And the orangutan doesn't even get paid. 0:04:33.358,0:04:34.532 (Laughter) 0:04:35.405,0:04:39.353 Look at how we represent ourselves.[br]Look at how we represent nature. 0:04:39.377,0:04:41.368 Look at how we represent the countryside. 0:04:41.392,0:04:44.670 Look at how we represent[br]agricultural life. 0:04:44.694,0:04:46.675 Watch our sitcoms. 0:04:46.699,0:04:49.632 Watch our dramas. Watch our movies. 0:04:49.656,0:04:53.266 It's very common,[br]particularly in Southeast Asia, 0:04:53.290,0:04:56.546 when you watch these sitcoms, 0:04:56.570,0:05:01.812 if there's someone from the countryside,[br]invariably, they're ugly, 0:05:01.836,0:05:03.848 they're funny, they're silly, 0:05:03.872,0:05:05.415 they're without knowledge. 0:05:06.310,0:05:10.486 It's as if the countryside[br]has nothing to offer. 0:05:10.868,0:05:12.977 Our view of nature, 0:05:13.001,0:05:15.133 despite all our talk, 0:05:15.157,0:05:20.582 despite all our talk about[br]Asian philosophy, Asian values, 0:05:20.606,0:05:26.302 despite all our talk about how we have[br]an organic relationship to nature, 0:05:26.326,0:05:29.663 how do we actually treat nature[br]in Southeast Asia today? 0:05:29.687,0:05:34.839 We regard nature as something[br]to be defeated and exploited. 0:05:35.539,0:05:36.800 And that's the reality. 0:05:37.426,0:05:40.215 So the way in which we live[br]in our part of the world, 0:05:40.239,0:05:41.805 postcolonial Southeast Asia, 0:05:41.829,0:05:44.278 in so many ways, for me, 0:05:45.364,0:05:51.628 bears residual traces to ideas, tropes, 0:05:51.652,0:05:53.081 clichés, stereotypes 0:05:53.105,0:05:54.706 that have a history. 0:05:54.730,0:05:58.600 This idea of the countryside[br]as a place to be exploited, 0:05:58.624,0:06:02.615 the idea of countryfolk[br]as being without knowledge -- 0:06:02.639,0:06:05.121 these are ideas that historians[br]like me can go back, 0:06:05.145,0:06:08.423 we can trace how[br]these stereotypes emerged. 0:06:08.447,0:06:11.222 And they emerged at a time 0:06:12.555,0:06:14.021 when Southeast Asia 0:06:15.379,0:06:18.693 was being governed according to[br]the logic of colonial capitalism. 0:06:19.860,0:06:21.717 And in so many ways, 0:06:22.725,0:06:24.275 we've taken these ideas with us. 0:06:24.299,0:06:25.824 They're part of us now. 0:06:25.848,0:06:28.313 But we are not critical 0:06:28.337,0:06:30.917 in interrogating ourselves[br]and asking ourselves, 0:06:30.941,0:06:33.336 how did I have this view of the world? 0:06:33.360,0:06:35.528 How did I come to have[br]this view of nature? 0:06:35.552,0:06:38.351 How did I come to have[br]this view of the countryside? 0:06:38.375,0:06:41.569 How do I have this idea of Asia as exotic? 0:06:41.593,0:06:44.049 And we Southeast Asians in particular 0:06:44.073,0:06:48.361 love to self-exoticize ourselves. 0:06:49.059,0:06:54.340 We've turned Southeast Asian identity[br]into a kind of cosplay 0:06:54.364,0:06:58.155 where you can literally[br]go to the supermarket, go to the mall 0:06:58.179,0:07:02.256 and buy your do-it-yourself[br]exotic Southeast Asian costume kit. 0:07:02.280,0:07:04.478 And we parade this identity, 0:07:04.502,0:07:07.477 not asking ourselves how and when 0:07:07.501,0:07:10.480 did this particular image[br]of ourselves emerge. 0:07:10.504,0:07:12.080 They all have a history, too. 0:07:13.068,0:07:14.726 And that's why, increasingly, 0:07:15.820,0:07:19.941 as a historian, I find that[br]as I encounter the limits of history, 0:07:19.965,0:07:23.329 I see that I can't work alone anymore. 0:07:24.436,0:07:26.377 I can't work alone anymore, 0:07:26.401,0:07:31.168 because there's absolutely no point[br]in me doing my archival work, 0:07:31.192,0:07:35.527 there's no point in me seeking[br]the roots of these ideas, 0:07:35.551,0:07:37.454 tracing the genesis of ideas 0:07:37.478,0:07:39.316 and then putting it in some journal 0:07:39.340,0:07:41.410 to be read by maybe[br]three other historians. 0:07:41.434,0:07:42.831 There's absolutely no point. 0:07:43.498,0:07:48.375 The reason why I think this is important[br]is because our region, Southeast Asia, 0:07:48.399,0:07:51.899 will, I believe, in the years to come, 0:07:51.923,0:07:56.173 go through enormous changes,[br]unprecedented changes in our history, 0:07:56.197,0:07:57.935 partly because of globalization, 0:07:57.959,0:08:01.524 world politics,[br]geopolitical contestations, 0:08:01.548,0:08:02.996 the impact of technology, 0:08:03.020,0:08:04.806 the Fourth Industrial Revolution ... 0:08:04.830,0:08:08.200 Our world as we know it[br]is going to change. 0:08:08.691,0:08:11.144 But for us to adapt to this change, 0:08:11.168,0:08:13.028 for us to be ready for that change, 0:08:13.052,0:08:15.706 we need to think out of the box, 0:08:15.730,0:08:19.168 and we can't fall back,[br]we can't fall back, we can't fall back 0:08:19.192,0:08:26.177 on the same set of clichéd,[br]tired, staid old stereotypes. 0:08:26.201,0:08:27.807 We need to think out, 0:08:27.831,0:08:30.605 and that's why historians,[br]we can't work alone now. 0:08:30.629,0:08:35.160 I, I need to engage[br]with people in psychology, 0:08:35.184,0:08:37.041 people in behavioral therapy. 0:08:37.065,0:08:40.637 I need to engage with sociologists,[br]anthropologists, political economists. 0:08:40.661,0:08:43.977 I need above all to engage[br]with people in the arts 0:08:44.001,0:08:46.152 and the media, 0:08:46.176,0:08:49.049 because it's there in that forum, 0:08:49.073,0:08:52.450 outside the confines of the university, 0:08:52.474,0:08:55.903 that these debates[br]really need to take place. 0:08:56.553,0:08:58.719 And they need to take place now, 0:08:59.716,0:09:05.781 because we need to understand[br]that the way things are today 0:09:05.805,0:09:09.334 are not determined by some fixed, 0:09:10.293,0:09:12.401 iron historical railway track, 0:09:12.425,0:09:14.832 but rather there are many other histories, 0:09:14.856,0:09:19.368 many other ideas that were forgotten,[br]marginalized, erased along the line. 0:09:20.010,0:09:23.594 Historians like me, our job[br]is to uncover all this, discover all this, 0:09:23.618,0:09:28.497 but we need to engage this,[br]we need to engage with society as a whole. 0:09:29.088,0:09:33.760 So to go back to that time machine[br]example I gave earlier. 0:09:34.224,0:09:38.344 Let's say this is a 19th-century[br]colonial subject then, 0:09:38.368,0:09:39.950 and a person's wondering, 0:09:39.974,0:09:41.762 "Will empire ever come to an end? 0:09:41.786,0:09:43.398 Will there be an end to all this? 0:09:43.422,0:09:45.165 Will we one day be free?" 0:09:45.864,0:09:47.884 So the person invents a time machine, 0:09:47.908,0:09:49.356 (Makes beeping noises) 0:09:50.106,0:09:51.276 goes into the future 0:09:51.300,0:09:55.760 and arrives here in postcolonial[br]Southeast Asia today. 0:09:57.811,0:09:59.695 And the person looks around, 0:09:59.719,0:10:01.095 and the person will see, 0:10:01.119,0:10:02.318 yes, indeed, 0:10:03.762,0:10:05.671 the imperial flags are gone, 0:10:06.956,0:10:10.000 the imperial gunboats are gone,[br]the colonial armies are gone. 0:10:10.024,0:10:12.580 There are new flags, new nation-states. 0:10:12.604,0:10:14.582 There is independence after all. 0:10:15.285,0:10:16.703 But has there been? 0:10:17.215,0:10:21.848 The person then watches the tourist ads 0:10:22.840,0:10:26.648 and sees again the banana tree,[br]the coconut tree and the orangutan. 0:10:27.469,0:10:29.175 The person watches on TV 0:10:30.722,0:10:34.538 and watches how images[br]of an exotic Southeast Asia 0:10:34.562,0:10:38.234 are being reproduced again and again[br]by Southeast Asians. 0:10:38.258,0:10:41.649 And the person might then[br]come to the conclusion that, well, 0:10:41.673,0:10:45.279 notwithstanding the fact that 0:10:47.001,0:10:48.488 colonialism is over, 0:10:49.440,0:10:53.476 we are still in so, so many ways 0:10:54.462,0:10:57.568 living in the long shadow[br]of the 19th century. 0:10:59.128,0:11:03.695 And this, I think, has become[br]my personal mission. 0:11:04.460,0:11:07.122 The reason why I think[br]history is so important 0:11:07.146,0:11:09.874 and the reason why I think[br]it's so important for history 0:11:09.898,0:11:11.696 to go beyond history, 0:11:11.720,0:11:17.378 because need to reignite this debate[br]about who and what we are, 0:11:17.402,0:11:18.609 all of us. 0:11:18.633,0:11:21.991 We talk about, "No, I have my viewpoint,[br]you have your viewpoint." 0:11:22.015,0:11:23.304 Well, that's partly true. 0:11:23.328,0:11:27.224 Our viewpoints are never[br]entirely our own individually. 0:11:27.248,0:11:29.633 We're all social beings.[br]We're historical beings. 0:11:29.657,0:11:30.828 You, me, all of us, 0:11:30.852,0:11:32.768 we carry history in us. 0:11:32.792,0:11:35.542 It's in the language we use.[br]It's in the fiction we write. 0:11:35.566,0:11:37.437 It's in the movies we choose to watch. 0:11:37.461,0:11:40.902 It's in the images that we conjure[br]when we think of who and what we are. 0:11:40.926,0:11:42.262 We are historical beings. 0:11:42.866,0:11:44.990 We carry history with us, 0:11:45.014,0:11:47.312 and history carries us along. 0:11:47.884,0:11:50.788 But while we are determined by history, 0:11:50.812,0:11:53.296 it is my personal belief 0:11:53.320,0:11:56.548 that we need not be trapped by history, 0:11:56.572,0:11:59.760 and we need not be the victims of history. 0:12:00.744,0:12:01.904 Thank you. 0:12:01.928,0:12:04.052 (Applause)