1 00:00:00,835 --> 00:00:05,220 I promise you that I will not sing. I will spare you that, at least. 2 00:00:05,442 --> 00:00:08,893 But I am a historian 3 00:00:08,893 --> 00:00:12,223 with a background in philosophy, 4 00:00:12,223 --> 00:00:16,660 and my main area of research is basically the history of Southeast Asia, 5 00:00:17,117 --> 00:00:21,341 with a focus on 19th century colonial Southeast Asia, 6 00:00:21,341 --> 00:00:23,099 and over the last few years, 7 00:00:23,099 --> 00:00:26,429 what I've been doing is really tracing the history of certain ideas 8 00:00:26,429 --> 00:00:32,079 that shape our viewpoint, 9 00:00:32,079 --> 00:00:34,041 the way we in Asia, in Southeast Asia, 10 00:00:34,041 --> 00:00:36,535 look at ourselves and understand ourselves. 11 00:00:36,857 --> 00:00:44,170 Now, there's one thing that I cannot explain as a historian, 12 00:00:44,170 --> 00:00:47,888 and this has been puzzling me for a long time, 13 00:00:47,888 --> 00:00:49,745 and this is how, and why, 14 00:00:49,745 --> 00:00:51,705 certain ideas, 15 00:00:52,432 --> 00:00:54,998 certain viewpoints 16 00:00:54,998 --> 00:00:58,548 do not seem to ever go away. 17 00:00:58,965 --> 00:01:00,641 And I don't know why. 18 00:01:00,641 --> 00:01:02,294 And in particular, 19 00:01:02,294 --> 00:01:06,654 I'm interested to understand why some people, not all by all means, 20 00:01:06,654 --> 00:01:09,359 but some people 21 00:01:09,359 --> 00:01:13,948 in postcolonial Asia 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:20,783 still hold on to a somewhat romanticized view of the colonial past, 23 00:01:20,783 --> 00:01:23,503 see it through kind of rose-tinted lenses 24 00:01:23,503 --> 00:01:27,769 as perhaps a time that was benevolent or nice pleasant. 25 00:01:28,532 --> 00:01:33,747 even though historians know the realities of the violence 26 00:01:33,747 --> 00:01:36,432 and the oppression and the dark side 27 00:01:36,432 --> 00:01:38,484 of that entire colonial experience. 28 00:01:38,484 --> 00:01:42,601 So let's imagine that I build a time machine for myself. 29 00:01:42,601 --> 00:01:44,297 I build a time machine. 30 00:01:44,297 --> 00:01:48,044 I send myself back to the 1860s, 31 00:01:48,044 --> 00:01:50,447 a hundred years before I was born. 32 00:01:51,263 --> 00:01:53,145 Oh dear, I've just dated myself. 33 00:01:53,145 --> 00:01:56,172 OK, I go back a hundred years before I was born. 34 00:01:56,503 --> 00:02:00,233 Now, if I were to find myself in the context of colonial Southeast Asia 35 00:02:00,233 --> 00:02:01,745 in the 19th century, 36 00:02:02,247 --> 00:02:05,308 I would not be a professor. 37 00:02:05,592 --> 00:02:07,493 Historians know this. 38 00:02:07,493 --> 00:02:11,495 And yet, despite that, 39 00:02:11,495 --> 00:02:15,641 there's still some quarters that somehow want to hold on to this idea 40 00:02:15,641 --> 00:02:18,676 that that past was not as murky, 41 00:02:18,676 --> 00:02:22,137 that there was a romanticized side to it. 42 00:02:22,137 --> 00:02:24,197 Now, here is where I as a historian, 43 00:02:24,197 --> 00:02:26,688 I encounter the limits of history. 44 00:02:26,688 --> 00:02:29,160 Because, I can trace ideas. 45 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:34,607 I can find out the origins of certain cliches, certain stereotypes. 46 00:02:34,607 --> 00:02:38,185 I can tell you who came up with it, where and when and in which book, 47 00:02:38,185 --> 00:02:40,147 but there's one thing I cannot do. 48 00:02:40,359 --> 00:02:46,624 I cannot get into the internal subjective mental universe of someone 49 00:02:47,211 --> 00:02:48,987 and change their mind. 50 00:02:49,902 --> 00:02:52,352 And I think this is where, and why, 51 00:02:52,352 --> 00:02:55,015 over the last few years, I'm increasingly drawn 52 00:02:55,015 --> 00:02:58,806 to things like psychology and cognitive behavioral therapy, 53 00:02:58,806 --> 00:03:03,375 because in these fields, scholars look at the persistence of ideas. 54 00:03:03,375 --> 00:03:06,188 Why do some people have certain prejudices? 55 00:03:06,188 --> 00:03:09,065 Why are there certain biases and phobias? 56 00:03:09,065 --> 00:03:14,664 We live, unfortunately, sadly, in a world where still misogyny persists, 57 00:03:14,664 --> 00:03:18,108 racism persists, all kinds of phobias. 58 00:03:18,303 --> 00:03:20,814 Islamophobia, for instance, is now a term. 59 00:03:20,814 --> 00:03:22,740 And why do these ideas persist? 60 00:03:23,025 --> 00:03:28,485 Many scholars agree that it's partly because, when looking at the world, 61 00:03:28,485 --> 00:03:30,757 we fall back, we fall back, we fall back 62 00:03:30,757 --> 00:03:32,658 on a finite pool, 63 00:03:32,658 --> 00:03:36,563 a small pool of basic ideas that don't get challenged. 64 00:03:37,023 --> 00:03:41,189 Look at how we, particularly us in Southeast Asia, 65 00:03:41,189 --> 00:03:45,059 represent ourselves to ourselves and to the world. 66 00:03:45,059 --> 00:03:46,487 Look at how often, 67 00:03:46,487 --> 00:03:50,239 when we talk about ourselves, my viewpoint, my identity, our identity, 68 00:03:50,239 --> 00:03:53,799 invariably we fall back, we fall back, we fall back, we fall back 69 00:03:53,799 --> 00:03:55,761 on the same set of ideas, 70 00:03:55,761 --> 00:03:59,827 all of which have histories of their own. 71 00:04:00,724 --> 00:04:02,383 Very simple example: 72 00:04:02,383 --> 00:04:04,265 we live in Southeast Asia, 73 00:04:04,265 --> 00:04:07,451 which is very popular with tourists from all over the world. 74 00:04:07,451 --> 00:04:10,077 And I don't think that's a bad thing, by the way. 75 00:04:10,282 --> 00:04:11,578 I think it's good 76 00:04:11,578 --> 00:04:13,607 that tourists come to Southeast Asia 77 00:04:13,607 --> 00:04:16,372 because it's part and parcel of broadening your worldview 78 00:04:16,372 --> 00:04:18,200 and meeting cultures, etc. etc. 79 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,050 But look at how we represent ourselves 80 00:04:22,050 --> 00:04:26,311 through the tourist campaigns, the tourist ads that we produce. 81 00:04:26,311 --> 00:04:30,083 There will be the obligatory coconut tree, banana tree, orangutan. 82 00:04:30,785 --> 00:04:33,261 And the orangutan doesn't even get paid. 83 00:04:33,261 --> 00:04:35,339 (Laughter) 84 00:04:35,339 --> 00:04:39,678 Look at how we represent ourselves. Look at how we represent nature. 85 00:04:39,678 --> 00:04:41,967 Look at how we represent the countryside. 86 00:04:41,967 --> 00:04:44,861 Look at how we represent agricultural life. 87 00:04:44,861 --> 00:04:46,833 Watch our sitcoms. 88 00:04:47,083 --> 00:04:49,109 Watch our dramas. Watch our movies. 89 00:04:49,109 --> 00:04:51,024 It's very common, 90 00:04:51,705 --> 00:04:53,607 particularly in Southeast Asia, 91 00:04:53,607 --> 00:04:56,347 when you watch these sitcoms, 92 00:04:56,347 --> 00:04:58,745 if there's someone from the countryside, 93 00:04:58,745 --> 00:05:02,135 they are invariably, they are ugly, 94 00:05:02,135 --> 00:05:04,132 they are funny, they are silly, 95 00:05:04,132 --> 00:05:06,573 they are without knowledge. 96 00:05:06,573 --> 00:05:08,781 It's as if the countryside 97 00:05:08,781 --> 00:05:10,870 has nothing to offer. 98 00:05:11,082 --> 00:05:13,214 Our view of nature, 99 00:05:13,214 --> 00:05:15,406 despite all our talk, 100 00:05:15,406 --> 00:05:20,889 despite all our talk about Asian philosophy, Asian values, 101 00:05:20,889 --> 00:05:26,186 despite all our talk about how we have an organic relationship to nature, 102 00:05:26,374 --> 00:05:30,103 how do we actually treat nature in Southeast Asia today? 103 00:05:30,103 --> 00:05:34,825 We regard nature as something to be defeated and exploited. 104 00:05:35,872 --> 00:05:37,649 And that's the reality. 105 00:05:37,649 --> 00:05:40,461 So the way in which we live in our part of the world, 106 00:05:40,461 --> 00:05:45,718 postcolonial Southeast Asia, in so many ways, for me 107 00:05:45,928 --> 00:05:53,421 bears residual traces to ideas, tropes, cliches, stereotypes 108 00:05:53,421 --> 00:05:54,929 that have a history, 109 00:05:54,929 --> 00:05:58,712 This idea of the countryside as a place to be exploited, 110 00:05:58,712 --> 00:06:02,744 the idea of countryfolk as being without knowledge, 111 00:06:02,967 --> 00:06:05,142 these are ideas that historians like me 112 00:06:05,142 --> 00:06:08,744 can go back, we can trace how these stereotypes emerged, 113 00:06:08,744 --> 00:06:12,817 and they emerged at a time 114 00:06:12,817 --> 00:06:14,459 when Southeast Asia 115 00:06:14,459 --> 00:06:18,507 was being governed according to the logic of colonial capitalism. 116 00:06:20,106 --> 00:06:22,681 And in so many ways, 117 00:06:22,681 --> 00:06:24,908 we've taken these ideas with us. 118 00:06:24,908 --> 00:06:26,558 They're part of us now, 119 00:06:26,558 --> 00:06:27,873 but we are not critical 120 00:06:28,544 --> 00:06:30,997 in interrogating ourselves and asking ourselves, 121 00:06:30,997 --> 00:06:33,550 how did I have this view of the world? 122 00:06:33,550 --> 00:06:35,854 How did I come to have this view of nature? 123 00:06:35,854 --> 00:06:38,574 How did I come to have this view of the countryside? 124 00:06:38,574 --> 00:06:41,738 How do I have this idea of Asia as exotic? 125 00:06:41,738 --> 00:06:44,649 And we Southeast Asians in particular 126 00:06:44,649 --> 00:06:48,480 love to self-exoticize ourselves. 127 00:06:49,393 --> 00:06:54,001 We've turned Southeast Asian identity into a kind of cosplay 128 00:06:54,001 --> 00:06:57,995 where you can literally go to the supermarket, go to the mall 129 00:06:57,995 --> 00:07:02,530 and buy your do-it-yourself exotic Southeast Asian costume kit. 130 00:07:02,530 --> 00:07:04,661 And we parade this identity, 131 00:07:04,661 --> 00:07:07,572 not asking ourselves how and when 132 00:07:07,572 --> 00:07:10,925 did this particular image of ourselves emerge? 133 00:07:10,925 --> 00:07:12,826 They all have a history too. 134 00:07:13,189 --> 00:07:15,987 And that's why, increasingly, 135 00:07:15,987 --> 00:07:20,363 as a historian, I find that as I encounter the limits of history 136 00:07:20,363 --> 00:07:23,655 I see that I can't work alone anymore. 137 00:07:24,730 --> 00:07:26,544 I can't work alone anymore, 138 00:07:26,544 --> 00:07:29,026 because there's absolutely no point 139 00:07:29,026 --> 00:07:31,519 in me doing my archival work, 140 00:07:31,519 --> 00:07:34,638 there's no point in me seeking the roots of these ideas, 141 00:07:34,638 --> 00:07:37,174 tracing the genesis of ideas 142 00:07:37,605 --> 00:07:39,831 and then putting it in some journal 143 00:07:39,831 --> 00:07:41,785 to be read by maybe three other historians. 144 00:07:41,785 --> 00:07:43,143 There's absolutely no point. 145 00:07:43,143 --> 00:07:45,577 The reason why I think this is important 146 00:07:45,577 --> 00:07:49,437 is because our region, Southeast Asia, 147 00:07:49,437 --> 00:07:51,736 will, I believe, in the years to come, 148 00:07:51,736 --> 00:07:55,551 go through enormous changes, unprecedented changes in our history, 149 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 partly because of globalization, 150 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 world politics, geopolitical contestations, 151 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the impact of technology, 152 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the Fourth Industrial Revolution. 153 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Our world as we know it is going to change. 154 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But for us to adapt to this change, 155 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for us to be ready for that change, 156 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we need to think out of the box, 157 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and we can't fall back, we can't fall back, we can't fall back 158 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 on the same set of cliched, tired, staid old stereotypes. 159 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We need to think out, 160 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and that's why historians, we can't work alone now. 161 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I, I need to engage with people in psychology, people in behavior therapy. 162 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I need to engage with sociologists, anthropologists, political economists. 163 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I need above all to engage with people in the arts 164 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the media, 165 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because it's there in that forum, 166 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 outside the confines of the university, 167 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that these debates really need to take place. 168 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And they need to take place now, 169 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because we need to understand 170 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that the way things are today 171 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 are not determined by some fixed, 172 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 iron historical railway track, 173 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but rather there are many other histories, 174 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 many other ideas that were forgotten, marginalized, erased along the line. 175 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Historians like me, our job is to uncover all this, discover all this, 176 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but indeed to engage this we need to engage with society as a whole. 177 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So to go back to that time machine example I gave earlier. 178 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Let's say this is a 19th century colonial subject then, 179 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and persons wondering, 180 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 will empire ever come to an end? 181 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Will there be an end to all this? 182 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Will we one day be free? 183 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So a person invents a time machine, 184 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 goes into the future, 185 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and arrives here in postcolonial Southeast Asia today. 186 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Our person looks around, 187 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the person will say, 188 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 yes indeed, the imperial flags are gone, 189 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the imperial gunboats are gone, the colonial armies are gone. 190 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 There are new flags, new nation-states. 191 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 There is independence after all. 192 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But has there been? 193 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The person then watches the tourist ads 194 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and sees again the banana tree, the coconut tree, and the orangutan. 195 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The person watches on TV 196 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and watches how images of an exotic Southeast Asia 197 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 are being reproduced again and again by Southeast Asians. 198 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And the person might then come to the conclusion 199 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that, well, notwithstanding 200 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the fact that 201 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 colonialism is over, 202 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we are still in so, so many ways 203 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 living in the long shadow of the 19th century, 204 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and this, I think, has become my personal mission, 205 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the reason why I think history is so important 206 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the reason why I think it's so important for history 207 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to go beyond history, 208 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because need to reignite this debate about who and what they are, 209 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 all of us. 210 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We talk about, no, I have my viewpoint, you have your viewpoint. 211 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Well, that's partly true. 212 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Our viewpoints are never entirely our own individually. 213 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We are all social beings. We are historical beings. 214 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You, me, all of us, 215 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we carry history in us. 216 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's in the language we use. It's in the fiction we write. 217 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's in the movies we choose to watch. 218 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's in the images that we conjure when we think of who and what we are. 219 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We are historical beings. 220 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We carry history with us, 221 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and history carries us alone. 222 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But while we are determined by history, 223 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it is my personal belief 224 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that we need not be trapped by history 225 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and we need not be the victims of history. 226 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Thank you. 227 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Applause)