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Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On December 8 1980, I was assigned
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the 20ths precinct. I was a patrolman in a radio car
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I got a call that there was shots fired at 1 W.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,72nd street. There was a man pointing
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said "That's the man doing the shooting."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And at that point we realized that this was for real.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I peeked in and saw a man with his hands up.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I threw this guy up against a wall and at that point
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jose says to me he shot John Lennon. And I said "You what?"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(shot)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a work of art by John Lennon's widow, Yoko Ono.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was thinking about all these windows in the world
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's so many windows that have bullet marks
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bullet holes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I wanted to make a symbolic gesture of one bullet hole
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also you have to see it from the front. You have
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see it from the back.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you see it from the front you're the shooter.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you see it from the back, you're the victim.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I did it and then I saw it. And I said " Oh my God! I saw that!"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"That night"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At 10:50 p.m. on Monday December the 8th, 1980, John Lennon was murdered
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the Dakota Building in New York
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Late this evening, one of the world's great entertainers
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and musicians, John Lennon of the Beatles.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was shot outside his New York home."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The shockwaves of John Lennon's murder were felt
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around the world.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Switched on the radio and 'Imagine' was playing. It was like a knife through your heart.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You knew it was true.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a shattering blow.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Stunned. I just couldn't... I just saw him.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Total shock. Absolute shock.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Imagine all the people"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could not believe it. I mean I was shocked and then I was
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying to myself, "Who did this?"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And why anyone would hurt John?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then it struck me that I might have a picture of the kiler.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On January 1969, eleven years before John died, the
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Beatles held their last ever concert.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the roof of their office building on Saddle Row.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was the end of an era.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John Lennon profoundly influenced a generation. And beyond.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you know happened here? What do I know happened?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The record label was run from here I suppose.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know much what happened here.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. one last gig
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Dont let me down."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see this house and I was in that queue.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was his voice, man. It makes me sad
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It makes me angry. It makes chilled. You know? It was
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his voice really.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Nobody ever loved me like she do."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought, :right? I want to be in a band like that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why can't I make music like that
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"One two three four"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John's whole life after he walked away from the Beatles
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was an escape from the insanity of Beatle-mania
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 1971, he found his refuge with Yoko in New York
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the city in which he was, nine years later, to meet his fate
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(singing) New york city baby
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah the last time I saw John we were in Madison
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Square Garden. He said, "I can walk down the street, walk through the park. People pass me-
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Hi John' and keep on walking". He said "I love it."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I thought to myself, John's found peace at last.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Singing: all we saying is give peace a chance.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Peace had come at a price.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John's political activism had a real effect on young people.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the President himself saw Lennon as a threat.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nixon was determined to deny John his green card
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a piece of tape somewhere of Nixon's
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,henchmen saying "You know this guy could sway an election."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was preserved.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the first step was to kick him out.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they were very eager to do that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Singing I would like..)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's August 1980, with his struggle for permanent residence long behind him,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John is about to embark on a new musical venture
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Yoko. They're snapped leaving the Dakota,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the first day of recording their album "Double Fantasy"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can have no idea it will be their last.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their coproducer is Jack Douglas.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea of this album was a play, a dialogue between a man and his wife.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A man who had been through the sixties. It was about
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well here we are. We're turning 40. And everythings ok. We can still do this.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can still have our voice. We managed to make it through
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all those terrible years. And now let's look to the future."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(singing) Even after all these years.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By September 1980, the album "Double Fantasy" is nearing completion.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He listened to it very intently. And I saw this smile come on his face.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he yelled out, "Mother! Tell them we have a record!"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mother was John's nickname for his wife.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He made me laugh all the time. I wasn't trying to make
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,him laugh.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it seemed like he was laughing all the time about me.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just the fact that I'm saying something serious. And he said, "You're so tiny and you're saying these things."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you know, that made him feel funny I suppose.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To his fans, John could be kind.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In November 1980, the fan later to take the last picture of John alive, is granted his first photo opportunity.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he says, "Well let's take it now."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Let's get it the hell over with. You never know
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we'll get another chance to do it."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this was 21 days before he gets murdered.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I mean, I was like a kid under the Christmas tree
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on Christmas morning.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when I stood next to him, John put his right arm
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around my shoulder. And I couldn't believe
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he pulled me to him. And when he did that. He
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gave me the idea and I held on to his fur collar.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cause I was holding it almost to make sure
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it wasn't a dream.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, he wasn't going to disappear on me.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most iconic image of John Lennon in
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,New York was taken by his friend, photographer
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bob Gruen. Friday December the 5th, three days before he dies.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John phones him
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was in a good mood, very playful.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The next day he asked me to come back, cause he
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had gotten a new jacket. He wanted some pictures of the new jacker, a very fancy Yamamoto jacket.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so we stayed up all night talking while they were working in the studio.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it wasn't until dawn that we were actually out on the street
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it was Saturday morning, December 6th
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we took a bunch of pictures there and um
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that was the last time I saw him.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Later that Saturday, December 6th John gives a radio
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interview to BBC DJ Andy Peebles at the Hit Factory recording studio in Manhattan.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was my hero.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember he put his arm around my shoulder and said "Thank you for coming."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I felt like saying, "What do you mean, thank you for coming?"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Recording)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I left England I still couldn't go on the street.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was still Carnaby Street and all that stuff was going on.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We couldn't walk around the block, go to a restaurant, unless
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you wanted to do the business of the star going to the restaurant garbage.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can go right out this door now and go in a restaurant.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You want to know how great that is?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And towards the end of the interview, for some perverse reason
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it just flashed through my mind- ask him about security.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he came out with the classic quote, you know, "i can walk down the street
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people say 'hi John, how are you, how's the baby?'"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I can see him now saying it with such conviction.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He could never ever have dreamt
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what would ensue in 48 hours.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Never ever have dreamt. Pfft.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's Monday the eighth of December, 1980.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At 10:00 a.m. John leaves the Dakota building for his favorite
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,local barber.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He just wanted a haircut.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I dunno maybe I have those hairs still.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I used to keep his hair.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well the day started with the Liebowitz photograph.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As the photographer Annie Liebowitz completes the photo shoot
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Rolling Stone magazine and the cover that was
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to become world famous.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John's fan, the amateur photographer Paul Garesh,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,arrives as usual.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got to the Dakota around 11:45 in the morning
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when I got there, it was a nice mild day for December 8th.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only other person there was a guy standing
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a long overcoat with a fur collar. And a fur hat.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he had a scarf on and he was holding "Double Fantasy"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under his elbow
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says to me "Are you waiting for Lennon?"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Yeah"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "My name's Mark. I'm from Hawaii."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "I'm Paul. I'm from New Jersey."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said "Oh. Do you work for him?"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said "No"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said "I came all the way from Hawaii to get my album signed."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I said, "where are you staying while you're in the city?" And with that he seemed to change his whole demeanor. From like a dope to an aggressive person.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Why do you want to know?" And I said "go back where you were standing and leave me alone."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were doing a sort of interview with RKO radio you know.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,12:40 p.m. the RKO radio team from San Francisco with radio host Dave Sholan arrived with expectation for the interview that lies ahead.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We drive up to the Dakota which is a very impressive building. I mean it takes your breath away.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we're ushered into this incredible space. This beautiful room where you take your shoes off which is a wonderful custom.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And sit down on the couch and Yoko was there. And I look up to the ceiling and notice these clouds that are painted on Lovely.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Meanwhile Paul Goresh goes inside hoping to pick up a copy of John's 1965 book A Spaniard in the woods, which he's left for John to sign.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John was coming in from walk He said I will sign it for you today I promise. So I went back outside at my post.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I went back outside, the guy with the overcoat was there and he was alone on the other side of the yard.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He came over to me and said "You know what, I want to apologize to you. I owe you an apology for the way I acted. You're in New York and you never know who you can trust these days."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Monday December the 8th 1980, it's 1:25 p.m. John Lennon begins a 2 and a half hour interview with radio journalist Dave Sholan
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the last interview he will ever give.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The door opens and John appears. Does this little jump in the air and proceeds to say "here I am folks. the show is ready to begin."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He spreads his arms out and comes right over. He could not have been more upbeat.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the interview John ranges over his whole life story from his Liverpool years to his relationship with Yoko and their son Sean.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was born on Oct. 9th which I was. So we are almost like twins.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So now I have more reason to stay healthy and bright.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Around 1978-9, around then, he said "I feel very lonely. Because there's not a man that I can talk to. About being a house husband. They must have some kind of group session or something for those men.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I said " well. I suppose there should be. But we couldn't find one."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one day I saw John sitting in bed and crying and I said "what happened?"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he was reading a book called The First Sex and its a book about how women don't get credit at all for what they did in history.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said I didn't know that we would do this to women. He has a very soft heart you know.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Seems to me, correct me if I'm wrong, that John came from a background that was very macho.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very macho. Oh I was surprised. But you know, I think that was normal in those days for guys.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the Liverpool pub where John used to meet his art school friends.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of these was Thelma Pickles. She was 16 and John 17.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well of a romance I suppose it was in a way. A youthful romance.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John lived here in a house known as Mendips with his aunt Mimi who brought him up in the absence of his mother Julia.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He got up to the kinds of things young people get up to He had a very pristine bedroom.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He once asked me if I knew that making love expended the same amount of energy as going for a 5 mile run.Which I didn't know and I don't know to this day is true but I believed him.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then it became a euphemism.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One evening there was a party at the art school where they were both students.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said "Come on. Let's go for a five mile run. So we went upstairs to the Art history classroom. When we got inside there were at least three other couples.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said "I'm not staying here and he absolutely whacked me one. I didn't speak to him after that. I didn't care who he was, how funny he was, how interesteing he was. I was not going to be hit by a lad."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John's relationships with women were often controversial.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By 1970 he had become one of the most famous people in the world.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His early marriage with Cynthia with whom he had a son Julian, was over. But Yoko proved unpopular.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reason for the Beatles splitting up, with precious little evidence ascribed to her.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The hostility directed toward Yoko didn't dimish when they moved to New York.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I felt terrible about me but then I was feeling guilty about him. He was really getting it as well.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because his records were not selling too well either. And it was all because he was with me in a way.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we were together almost 26 hours a day. And I think it was very unusual for John to be like that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for any rocker, they kind of sneak out. There was none of that. Because he was worried that I might do it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was laughing about it. Because you know, I'm an artist. He was afraid I might be sort of free about things. You know. Unlike other women.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I probably was. But i wasn't free about that sort of thing.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact it was John's misbehavior with a woman at a party which in 1973 made Yoko realize they needed time apart.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I call it my lost weekend. It lasted 18 months. When the feminine side of me died slightly. And she said "get the hell out".
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Give me 30 seconds to just be in this space.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Elliott Mintz was a Los Angeles based reporter who had become a friend of John and Yokol
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yoko thought it would be best for John to go off on his own and for the two of them to part as a seperation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She suggested he leave New York and go to Los Angeles.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That choice was partially based upon the fact that I was here and that somehow I might be able to look after him. Talk about a burden.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the first couple of weeks he did what people do in this city if you're a bachelor and by former profession you happen to be a Beatle.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He liked the action. For a short time he liked the parties.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He liked the nightclubs. He liked the drinking. He didn't mind the attention of the ladies.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can tell you this. A week, two or three, into the experience the only thing he wanted was to figure out a way of getting back with Yoko.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would say to Yoko, look he keeps saying to me "tell mother" he referred to Yoko as mother, "tell mother that I'm ready to come home."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I would say that to Yoko and Yoko would say No he isn't. I will let you know when he is.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After 18 months apart, John and Yoko reignited their relationship.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's when in l975 their son Sean was born.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John was a changed man.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he wraps up his historic interview with Dave Sholin on December the 8th by saying he is entering a new phase in his life.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I always considered my work one piece whether it was with the Beatles, Elton John, David Bowie, Yoko Ono and I consider that my work won't be finished until I'm dead and buried.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I hope that's a long, long time.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we ended this interview, said our goodbyes, all took photos. I had my photo taken with John and Yoko which I treasure more than anything.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We wrapped up the gear adn then headed on down to our car. We were going right to the airport.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's 4 p.m. and still hanging around at the entrance, fan and amateur photographer Paul Goresh sees the RKO team coming out of the building with their recording equipment.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now a little bustle of people start coming out and noticing a lot of silver cases so I figured John will be coming out soon.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The next thing, John comings walking out looking for a car that was going to take he and Yoko over to the record plant
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he turned to Jose and said "Jose, where's my car?" and he said it's not here yet Mr. Lennon.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Im looking around and I'm thinking, This is pretty amazing. Here's John Lennon outside in New York.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought of that and dismissed it quickly. In this town, it's no big deal and that was it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said to me "dont forget your book. Did you get your album signed?"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said "I'll get the album signed tomorrow. I'll get the book before I leave."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as he was talking to me, the man with the overcoat approached from the left.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He didn't say a word he just held the album out in front of John.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and John turned to him and looked at the album and said "do you want it signed?"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the guy nodded. He didn't say a word. Just nodded. It looked like a picture. So I snapped a couple of pictures.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first picture I took was John signing the album and looking at the album.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He nodded, looked at the album and just backed away.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So John was saying, "well our car isn't here. You're going to the airport? Yeah. Would you mind giving us a ride?"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hop on in, we're heading the same direction.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, as he was getting in the limousine, I took a picture.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, that turned out to be the lst picture of him alive.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He got in the limousine and he was facing me. and as he was pulling away, John turned and wave to me.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I waved back and smiled at him. And I would never see him again.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's now 5:05 pm, on Monday December the 8th.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John Lenon is given a lift to his recording studio by his intervier.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He causually asks about his relationship with Paul McCartney
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says," Well, he's like a brother. I love him. We certainly have our ups and downs and quarrels.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But at the end of the day when it's all said and done, we would do anything for each other.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that was grea to hear.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We dropped John and Yoko off at the studio and said our goodbyes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While John and Yoko were busy at the studio, a few blocks away at central park
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a young ABC newsman was in a motorbike accident. It is to make him a key figure in the nights events.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The cops came, the ambulance came.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I remember riding in the ambulance an the doctor was saying Your lucky.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a monday night, it's quiet.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is another doctor at the E.R, your gonna love her.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's friendly, and she'll fix you up 1,2,3.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Back at the studio, John and Yoko put the finishing touches on the final record they will ever record.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's title is The Sound Significance.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The last thing we did was record Walking On Thin Ice.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's still hard for me to think about it, because it a song that just came to me.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you hear the song, it's about us.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, and how we will be remembered and will remember.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How we will turn to ashes. Why was I singing that?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Really weird?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, John loved that song and he said Yoko this is your first number one.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you just got your first number one.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We finished the mix that night, and I walked him down to the elevator.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Um, and I said to him " well I'll see you in the sterling house, the master house, at 9am.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he was all smiles cause of the song, and Yoko was smiling.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the elevator doors closed.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The last music that John ever records is the guitar work of that track.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then when we were in the car, I said shall we then go to a resturant before we go home than?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said "I want to see Sean before he goes to sleep."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was thinking that he's probably asleep by now, but okay let him see him.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, But you know even if we went to the resturant, it wouldn't have changed anything.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It didn't make us avoid anything.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Horrible
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, the car stopped and we got out of the car.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was really, it was really terrible.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was a patrolman in a radio car, and I got a call that there were shots fired at 1 West and 72nd street.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a man pointing into the vestibule and he said that the man that is doing to shotting.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and at that point we realized that this was for real.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I peeked in and saw a man with his hands up.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I threw this man against a wall, and at that point Jose says to me " That's the man that shot John Lenon."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I took a turn around to see what was going on behind me.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I saw two of my fellow police officers carrying out a body out.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Face up, blood coming out of his moulth.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At that point, I looked and I recognized John Lennon.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two police cars, one with John and one with Yoko, rushed to the hospital.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Emergency room Doctor. Lynn is on stand by.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I actually got here before the patient, I didn't know exactly what had happened.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everyone there was ready.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Through the doors, two police officers walked in. We didn't have locks back then, but we do today.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And these police officers were carrying this body over their shoulders. It was lifeless.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a very busy night, other people came in, swaggering in with very minor problems.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a waiting room full of people.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there was a gentleman about an hour before Lennon cam in, with a motorcycle accident
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it turned out he was a reporter.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Doctor comes in, and I am filthy with everything.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she says, I'll take you into x-ray. See what the damage is.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said okay.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And at that moment, the door behind me slams open, and a man walks in saying we have a gunshot in the chest.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The doctor says whernis it coming in, he says that it's hitting the door right now.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She says I'm sorry, Allen, I've got to take care of this.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No problem, I understand. And at this point I can hear footsteps as the door opens agaid.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in walks a stretcher. Five six policeman walk in carrying a stretcher.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We positioned that body on a stretcher in front of us.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was clear that there were three gun shot wounds in the right upper chest area.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one under the left arm
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was also clear that there was no breathing.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We immediatly didnt know that it was john lennon.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As part of our routine we took his identification out of his pocket.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It said John Lennon but the nurses said that this doesn't look like John Lennon. I can't be.