0:00:00.442,0:00:04.513 On the fourth of January, 1934, 0:00:04.513,0:00:07.529 a young man delivered a report 0:00:07.529,0:00:09.914 to the United States Congress 0:00:09.914,0:00:11.868 that 80 years on, 0:00:11.868,0:00:16.528 still shapes the lives of[br]everyone in this room today, 0:00:16.528,0:00:22.222 still shapes the lives of[br]everyone on this planet. 0:00:22.222,0:00:25.102 That young man wasn't a politician, 0:00:25.102,0:00:27.101 he wasn't a businessman, 0:00:27.101,0:00:28.438 a civil rights activist 0:00:28.438,0:00:30.423 or a faith leader. 0:00:30.423,0:00:33.484 He was that most unlikely of heroes, 0:00:33.484,0:00:35.981 an economist. 0:00:37.007,0:00:39.552 His name was Simon Kuznets 0:00:39.552,0:00:42.696 and the report that he delivered was called, 0:00:42.696,0:00:47.148 "National Income, 1929-32." 0:00:47.148,0:00:48.632 Now, you might think, 0:00:48.632,0:00:51.723 "this is a rather dry and dull report." 0:00:51.723,0:00:53.805 And you're absolutely right. 0:00:53.805,0:00:56.260 It's dry as a bone. 0:00:56.260,0:00:58.570 But this report is the foundation 0:00:58.570,0:01:01.503 of how, today, we judge the [br]success of countries. 0:01:01.503,0:01:05.052 What we know best as[br]Gross Domestic Product, 0:01:05.052,0:01:07.363 GDP. 0:01:07.363,0:01:10.266 GDP has defined and shaped our lives 0:01:10.266,0:01:12.864 for the last 80 years. 0:01:12.864,0:01:14.681 And today I want to talk about [br] 0:01:14.681,0:01:18.520 a different way to measure[br]the success of countries, 0:01:18.520,0:01:21.669 a different way to define [br]and shape our lives 0:01:21.669,0:01:24.926 for the next 80 years. 0:01:24.926,0:01:26.817 But first, we have to understand 0:01:26.817,0:01:30.726 how GDP came to[br]dominate our lives. 0:01:30.726,0:01:32.986 Kuznet's report was delivered 0:01:32.986,0:01:34.708 at a moment of crisis. 0:01:34.708,0:01:36.734 The U.S. economy was plumetting 0:01:36.734,0:01:38.349 into the Great Depression 0:01:38.349,0:01:41.434 and policy makers were [br]struggling to respond. 0:01:41.434,0:01:44.579 Struggling because they didn't[br]know what was going on. 0:01:44.579,0:01:47.961 They didn't have data and statistics. 0:01:47.961,0:01:50.783 So what Kuznet's report gave them 0:01:50.783,0:01:54.061 was reliable data on what [br]the U.S. economy 0:01:54.061,0:01:55.196 was producing, 0:01:55.196,0:01:58.764 updated year by year. 0:01:58.764,0:02:00.604 And armed with this information, 0:02:00.604,0:02:02.612 policy makers were, eventually, 0:02:02.612,0:02:06.040 able to find a way out [br]of the slump. 0:02:06.040,0:02:07.922 And because Kuznet's invention 0:02:07.922,0:02:09.694 was found to be so useful, 0:02:09.694,0:02:11.382 it spread around the world. 0:02:11.382,0:02:13.851 And now today, every country 0:02:13.851,0:02:16.815 produces GDP statistics. 0:02:16.815,0:02:19.922 But, in that first report, 0:02:19.922,0:02:23.466 Kuznets himself delivered a warning. 0:02:23.466,0:02:25.447 It's in the introductory chapter, 0:02:25.447,0:02:27.481 page 7 he says, 0:02:27.481,0:02:30.110 "The welfare of a nation can, therefore, 0:02:30.110,0:02:31.664 scarcely be inferred 0:02:31.664,0:02:33.664 from a measurement of [br]national income 0:02:33.664,0:02:35.601 as defined above." 0:02:35.601,0:02:38.969 It's not the greatest sound [br]bite in the world, 0:02:38.969,0:02:41.038 and it's dressed up in the [br]coursest language 0:02:41.038,0:02:42.586 of the economist. 0:02:42.586,0:02:44.774 But his message was clear, 0:02:44.774,0:02:46.508 GDP is a tool 0:02:46.508,0:02:49.566 to help us measure[br]economic performance. 0:02:49.566,0:02:52.534 It's not a measure[br]of our wellbeing. 0:02:52.534,0:02:54.301 And it shouldn't be a guide 0:02:54.301,0:02:57.344 to all decision making. 0:02:57.344,0:02:58.781 But we have ignored 0:02:58.781,0:03:00.373 Kuznet's warning. 0:03:00.373,0:03:01.777 We live in a world where 0:03:01.777,0:03:04.900 GDP is the benchmark of sucess 0:03:04.900,0:03:07.177 in a global economy. 0:03:07.177,0:03:10.406 Our politicians boast when[br]GDP goes up. 0:03:10.406,0:03:11.690 Markets move 0:03:11.690,0:03:13.564 and trillions of dollars of capital 0:03:13.564,0:03:14.988 move around the world 0:03:14.988,0:03:16.739 based on which countries[br]are going up 0:03:16.739,0:03:18.580 and which countries [br]are going down, 0:03:18.580,0:03:21.204 all measured in GDP. 0:03:21.204,0:03:22.533 Our societies have become 0:03:22.533,0:03:26.908 engines to create more GDP. 0:03:26.908,0:03:30.443 But we know that GDP is flawed. 0:03:30.443,0:03:32.973 It ignores the environment. 0:03:32.973,0:03:36.629 It counts bombs and prisons as progress. 0:03:36.629,0:03:38.601 It can't count happiness 0:03:38.601,0:03:39.878 or community. 0:03:39.878,0:03:41.861 And it has nothing to say 0:03:41.861,0:03:44.619 about fairness or justice. 0:03:44.619,0:03:46.291 Is it any surprise 0:03:46.291,0:03:47.324 that our world, 0:03:47.324,0:03:50.155 marching to the drum beat of GDP, 0:03:50.155,0:03:51.572 is teetering on the brink 0:03:51.572,0:03:53.422 of environmental disaster 0:03:53.422,0:03:56.938 and filled with anger and conflict? 0:03:56.938,0:03:58.941 We need a better way[br] 0:03:58.941,0:04:01.341 to measure our societies, 0:04:01.341,0:04:03.894 a measure based on the real things 0:04:03.894,0:04:06.699 that matter to real people. 0:04:06.699,0:04:08.686 Do I have enough to eat? 0:04:08.686,0:04:10.762 Can I read and write? 0:04:10.762,0:04:12.500 Am I safe? 0:04:12.500,0:04:14.655 Do I have rights? 0:04:14.655,0:04:17.877 Do I live in a society where[br]I'm not discriminated against? 0:04:17.877,0:04:19.124 Is my future 0:04:19.124,0:04:20.914 and the future of my children 0:04:20.914,0:04:24.222 prevented from environmental destruction? 0:04:24.222,0:04:26.113 These are questions that GDP 0:04:26.113,0:04:31.016 does not and cannot answer. 0:04:31.016,0:04:32.535 There have, of course, 0:04:32.535,0:04:33.921 been efforts in the past 0:04:33.921,0:04:36.563 to move beyond GDP. 0:04:36.563,0:04:37.938 But I believe that we're living 0:04:37.938,0:04:39.212 in a moment when we 0:04:39.212,0:04:42.952 are ready for a measurement revolution. 0:04:42.952,0:04:45.628 We're ready because we've seen, 0:04:45.628,0:04:47.862 in the financial crisis of 2008, 0:04:47.862,0:04:50.681 how our fetish for economic growth 0:04:50.681,0:04:52.712 led us so far astray. 0:04:52.712,0:04:55.096 We've seen, in the Arab Spring, 0:04:55.096,0:04:56.941 how countries like Tunisia 0:04:56.941,0:04:59.861 were supposedly economic superstars, 0:04:59.861,0:05:01.216 but they were societies 0:05:01.216,0:05:04.495 that were seething with discontentment. 0:05:04.495,0:05:06.563 We're ready because today 0:05:06.563,0:05:08.174 we have the technology 0:05:08.174,0:05:10.498 to gather and analyze data 0:05:10.498,0:05:11.904 in ways that would have been 0:05:11.904,0:05:14.945 unimaginable to Kuznets. 0:05:14.945,0:05:16.808 Today, I'd like to introduce you to 0:05:16.808,0:05:19.421 the Social Progress Index. 0:05:19.421,0:05:22.155 It's a measure of the wellbeing of society, 0:05:22.155,0:05:24.912 completely separate from GDP. 0:05:24.912,0:05:26.593 It's a whole new way[br][Social Progress Index] 0:05:26.593,0:05:28.569 of looking at the world. 0:05:28.569,0:05:30.179 The Social Progress Index 0:05:30.179,0:05:31.502 begins by defining what it 0:05:31.502,0:05:33.449 means to be a good society 0:05:33.449,0:05:36.940 based around three dimensions: 0:05:36.940,0:05:41.035 The first is, does everyone have[br]the basic needs for survival?: 0:05:41.035,0:05:43.885 food, water, shelter, safety. 0:05:43.885,0:05:46.605 Secondly, does everyone have 0:05:46.605,0:05:48.226 access to the building blocks 0:05:48.226,0:05:49.994 to improve their lives?: 0:05:49.994,0:05:53.978 education, information, health[br]and sustainable environment. 0:05:53.978,0:05:55.608 And then third, 0:05:55.608,0:05:57.632 does every individual have access 0:05:57.632,0:06:00.412 to a chance to pursue their goals 0:06:00.412,0:06:02.260 and dreams and ambitions 0:06:02.260,0:06:03.417 free from obstacles? 0:06:03.417,0:06:04.964 Do they have rights, 0:06:04.964,0:06:06.353 freedom of choice, 0:06:06.353,0:06:07.875 freedom from discrimination 0:06:07.875,0:06:11.336 and access to the the world's[br]most advanced knowledge? 0:06:11.336,0:06:14.700 Together, these 12 components 0:06:14.700,0:06:18.035 form the Social Progress framework. 0:06:18.035,0:06:20.123 And for each of these 12 components, 0:06:20.123,0:06:21.844 we have indicators to measure 0:06:21.844,0:06:23.541 how these countries are performing. 0:06:23.541,0:06:26.683 Not indicators of effort or intention, 0:06:26.683,0:06:28.931 but real achievement. 0:06:28.931,0:06:32.133 We don't measure how much[br]a country spends on healthcare, 0:06:32.133,0:06:34.806 we measure the length and quality 0:06:34.806,0:06:36.911 of people's lives. 0:06:36.911,0:06:38.400 We don't measure whether governments 0:06:38.400,0:06:41.065 pass laws against discrimination, 0:06:41.065,0:06:45.475 we measure whether people [br]experience discrimination. 0:06:45.475,0:06:46.835 But, what you want to know 0:06:46.835,0:06:50.141 is who's top, don't you? 0:06:50.141,0:06:52.118 I knew that, I knew that, I knew that. 0:06:52.118,0:06:53.194 Okay, I'm going to show you. 0:06:53.194,0:06:55.590 I'm going to show you on this chart. 0:06:55.590,0:06:56.934 So here we are, 0:06:56.934,0:06:59.890 what I've done here is [br]put on the vertical axis 0:06:59.890,0:07:01.146 social progress. 0:07:01.146,0:07:02.481 Higher is better. 0:07:02.481,0:07:04.503 And then, just for comparison, 0:07:04.503,0:07:05.825 just for fun, 0:07:05.825,0:07:07.284 on the horizontal axis 0:07:07.284,0:07:09.693 is GDP per capita. 0:07:09.693,0:07:11.301 Further to the right is more. 0:07:11.301,0:07:12.033 Okay, 0:07:12.033,0:07:14.737 so the country in the world 0:07:14.737,0:07:18.127 with the highest social progress, 0:07:18.127,0:07:21.486 the number one country on social progress 0:07:21.486,0:07:24.882 is New Zealand. 0:07:24.882,0:07:28.398 (Applause) 0:07:28.398,0:07:31.215 Well done. I've never been, must go! 0:07:31.215,0:07:33.537 (Laughter) 0:07:33.537,0:07:36.399 The country with the least social progress, 0:07:36.399,0:07:37.154 I'm sorry to say, 0:07:37.154,0:07:38.716 is Chad. 0:07:38.716,0:07:42.068 I've never been, maybe next year. 0:07:42.068,0:07:43.447 (Laughter) 0:07:43.447,0:07:46.259 Or maybe the year after. 0:07:46.259,0:07:47.052 Now, I know what you're thinking. 0:07:47.052,0:07:48.592 You're thinking, "Aha, 0:07:48.592,0:07:50.988 but New Zealand has a higher GDP 0:07:50.988,0:07:52.850 than Chad!" 0:07:52.850,0:07:55.344 It's a good point, well made. 0:07:55.344,0:07:56.806 But let me show you 0:07:56.806,0:07:58.069 two other countries. 0:07:58.069,0:08:00.495 Here's the United States, 0:08:00.495,0:08:03.242 considerably richer than New Zealand, 0:08:03.242,0:08:05.688 but with a lower level of social progress. 0:08:05.688,0:08:08.340 And then here's Senegal, 0:08:08.340,0:08:11.047 it's got a higher level [br]of social progress 0:08:11.047,0:08:12.331 than Chad, 0:08:12.331,0:08:14.606 but the same level of GDP. 0:08:14.606,0:08:15.456 So what's going on? 0:08:15.456,0:08:16.065 Well, look. 0:08:16.065,0:08:18.536 Let me bring in the rest of [br]the countries of the world, 0:08:18.536,0:08:20.744 the 132 we've been able to measure, 0:08:20.744,0:08:23.312 each one represented by a dot. 0:08:23.312,0:08:24.581 There are lots of dots. 0:08:24.581,0:08:26.323 Now, obviously I can't do all of them, 0:08:26.323,0:08:28.056 so a few highlights for you: 0:08:28.056,0:08:32.876 the highest ranked G7 country is Canada. 0:08:32.876,0:08:34.980 My country, the United Kingdom, 0:08:34.980,0:08:37.967 is sort of middling, sort of dull, 0:08:37.967,0:08:39.012 but who cares, 0:08:39.012,0:08:41.240 at least we beat the french. 0:08:41.240,0:08:44.167 (Laughter) 0:08:49.177,0:08:51.004 And then looking at the emerging economies, 0:08:51.004,0:08:53.618 the bricks, top of the bricks, pleased to say, 0:08:53.618,0:08:55.147 is Brazil. 0:08:55.147,0:08:56.044 (Laughter) 0:08:56.044,0:08:57.831 Come on, cheer! 0:08:57.831,0:08:59.773 Go, Brazil! 0:08:59.773,0:09:01.306 Beating South Africa, 0:09:01.306,0:09:02.599 then Russia, 0:09:02.599,0:09:03.733 then China 0:09:03.733,0:09:05.307 and then India. 0:09:05.307,0:09:07.672 Tucked away on the right-hand side, 0:09:07.672,0:09:09.852 you will see a dot of a country with 0:09:09.852,0:09:11.185 a lot of GDP but not 0:09:11.185,0:09:12.968 a huge amount of social progress, 0:09:12.968,0:09:14.946 that's Kuwait. 0:09:14.946,0:09:16.637 Just above Brazil 0:09:16.637,0:09:18.956 is a social progress superpower, 0:09:18.956,0:09:20.843 that's Costa Rica. 0:09:20.843,0:09:22.096 It's got a level of social progress 0:09:22.096,0:09:24.431 the same as some [br]Western European countries, 0:09:24.431,0:09:26.400 with a much lower GDP. 0:09:26.400,0:09:28.682 Now, my slide is getting a little cluttered 0:09:28.682,0:09:30.364 and I'd like to step back a bit. 0:09:30.364,0:09:31.818 So let me take away these countries, 0:09:31.818,0:09:34.732 and then pop in the regression line. 0:09:34.732,0:09:36.385 So this shows the average relationship 0:09:36.385,0:09:38.896 between GDP and social progress. 0:09:38.896,0:09:41.138 The first thing to notice, 0:09:41.138,0:09:42.993 is that there's lots of noise 0:09:42.993,0:09:44.690 around the trend line. 0:09:44.690,0:09:46.275 And what this shows, 0:09:46.275,0:09:49.157 what this empiracially demonstrates, 0:09:49.157,0:09:52.192 is that GDP is not destiny. 0:09:52.192,0:09:55.395 At every level of GDP per capita, 0:09:55.395,0:09:56.713 there are opportunities 0:09:56.713,0:09:58.535 for more social progress, 0:09:58.535,0:10:00.826 risks of less. 0:10:00.826,0:10:01.916 The second thing to notice 0:10:01.916,0:10:04.559 is that for poor countries, 0:10:04.559,0:10:06.532 the curve is really steep. 0:10:06.532,0:10:07.807 So what this tells us is that 0:10:07.807,0:10:09.060 if poor countries can get 0:10:09.060,0:10:10.954 a little bit of extra GDP, 0:10:10.954,0:10:12.737 and if they reinvest that in 0:10:12.737,0:10:15.409 doctors, nurses, water supplies, 0:10:15.409,0:10:16.782 sanitation, etcetera, 0:10:16.782,0:10:18.801 there's a lot of social progress bang 0:10:18.801,0:10:20.447 for your GDP buck. 0:10:20.447,0:10:21.142 And that's good news 0:10:21.142,0:10:22.274 and that's what we've seen 0:10:22.274,0:10:23.960 over the past 20, 30 years 0:10:23.960,0:10:25.723 with a lot of people lifted out of poverty 0:10:25.723,0:10:28.003 by economic growth and good policies 0:10:28.003,0:10:30.045 in poorer countries. 0:10:30.045,0:10:32.242 But go on a bit further up the curve, 0:10:32.242,0:10:34.351 and then we see it flattening out. 0:10:34.351,0:10:36.603 Each extra dollar of GDP 0:10:36.603,0:10:38.459 is buying less and less 0:10:38.459,0:10:40.370 social progress. 0:10:40.370,0:10:41.193 And with more and more 0:10:41.193,0:10:42.508 of the world's population 0:10:42.508,0:10:45.076 living on this part of the curve, 0:10:45.076,0:10:47.300 `It means GDP is becoming 0:10:47.300,0:10:49.084 less and less useful 0:10:49.084,0:10:51.600 as a guide to our development. 0:10:51.600,0:10:53.747 I'll show you an example of Brazil. 0:10:53.747,0:10:54.970 Here's Brazil, 0:10:54.970,0:10:56.287 social progress of about 0:10:56.287,0:10:57.841 70 out of 100. 0:10:57.841,0:11:00.335 GDP per capita about [br]14,000 dollars a year. 0:11:00.335,0:11:03.256 And look, Brazil's above the line. 0:11:03.256,0:11:05.142 Brazil is doing a reasonably good job 0:11:05.142,0:11:08.467 of turning GDP into social progress. 0:11:08.467,0:11:10.454 But where does Brazil go next? 0:11:10.454,0:11:11.966 Let's say that Brazil 0:11:11.966,0:11:13.738 adopts a bold economic plan 0:11:13.738,0:11:16.041 to double GDP in the next decade. 0:11:16.041,0:11:19.657 But that is only half a plan. 0:11:19.657,0:11:21.934 It's less than half a plan 0:11:21.934,0:11:22.762 because where does Brazil 0:11:22.762,0:11:25.186 want to go on social progress? 0:11:25.186,0:11:27.504 Brazil, it's possible 0:11:27.504,0:11:29.239 to increase your growth, 0:11:29.239,0:11:30.816 increase your GDP, 0:11:30.816,0:11:32.706 while stagnating or going backwards 0:11:32.706,0:11:34.055 on social progress. 0:11:34.055,0:11:35.031 We don't want Brazil 0:11:35.031,0:11:37.233 to become like Russia. 0:11:37.233,0:11:38.358 What you really want 0:11:38.358,0:11:39.285 is for Brazil 0:11:39.285,0:11:40.581 to get eve more efficient 0:11:40.581,0:11:42.893 at creating social progress 0:11:42.893,0:11:44.239 from its GDP 0:11:44.239,0:11:46.889 so it becomes more like New Zealand. 0:11:46.889,0:11:48.119 And what that means is that 0:11:48.119,0:11:50.776 Brazil needs to prioritize social progress 0:11:50.776,0:11:52.468 in its development plan 0:11:52.468,0:11:54.880 and see that it's not just growth alone, 0:11:54.880,0:11:57.532 its growth with social progress. 0:11:57.532,0:12:00.150 And that's what the Social Program Index does. 0:12:00.150,0:12:02.450 It reframes the debate about development, 0:12:02.450,0:12:04.820 not just about GDP alone, 0:12:04.820,0:12:07.399 but inclusive, sustainable growth 0:12:07.399,0:12:09.438 that brings real improvements 0:12:09.438,0:12:11.804 in people's lives. 0:12:11.804,0:12:14.394 And its not just about countries. 0:12:14.394,0:12:17.904 Earlier this year, 0:12:17.904,0:12:20.701 with our friends from the Imazon non-profit 0:12:20.701,0:12:22.400 here in Brazil, we launched 0:12:22.400,0:12:24.378 the first subnational 0:12:24.378,0:12:26.360 Social Progress Index. 0:12:26.360,0:12:28.868 We did it for the Amazon region, 0:12:28.868,0:12:31.115 it's an area the size of Europe, 0:12:31.115,0:12:32.656 24 million people, 0:12:32.656,0:12:35.084 one of the most deprived [br]parts of the country. 0:12:35.084,0:12:36.994 And here are the results, 0:12:36.994,0:12:38.629 and this is broken down 0:12:38.629,0:12:42.133 into nearly 800 different municipalities: 0:12:42.133,0:12:43.816 And with this detailed information 0:12:43.816,0:12:46.034 about the real quality of life 0:12:46.034,0:12:47.977 in this part of the country, 0:12:47.977,0:12:49.957 Amazon and other partners 0:12:49.957,0:12:52.286 from government, business and civil society 0:12:52.286,0:12:54.000 can work together to construct 0:12:54.000,0:12:55.677 a development plan 0:12:55.677,0:12:58.014 that will help really improve[br]people's lives, 0:12:58.014,0:13:01.250 while protecting that precious, global asset 0:13:01.250,0:13:04.221 that is the Amazon rainforest. 0:13:04.221,0:13:06.122 And this is just the beginning, 0:13:06.122,0:13:08.501 You can create a Social Progress Index 0:13:08.501,0:13:10.301 for any state, 0:13:10.301,0:13:11.323 region, 0:13:11.323,0:13:12.128 city 0:13:12.128,0:13:13.826 or municipality. 0:13:13.826,0:13:15.729 We all know and love TEDx, 0:13:15.729,0:13:17.971 this is SOCIALPROGRESSx. 0:13:17.971,0:13:19.435 This is a tool for anyone 0:13:19.435,0:13:21.184 to come and use. 0:13:21.184,0:13:22.515 Contrary to the ways we sometimes 0:13:22.515,0:13:24.034 talk about it, 0:13:24.034,0:13:27.495 GDP was not handed down from God 0:13:27.495,0:13:30.359 on tablets of stone. 0:13:30.359,0:13:32.210 It's a measurement tool 0:13:32.210,0:13:34.854 invented in the 20th-century 0:13:34.854,0:13:36.772 to address the challenges 0:13:36.772,0:13:39.135 of the 20th-century. 0:13:39.135,0:13:41.004 In the 21st-century, 0:13:41.004,0:13:43.456 we face new challenges: 0:13:43.456,0:13:45.514 aging, obesity, climate change, 0:13:45.514,0:13:46.619 and so on. 0:13:46.619,0:13:48.223 To face those challenges, 0:13:48.223,0:13:50.243 we need new tools of measurement, 0:13:50.243,0:13:53.997 new ways of valuing progress. 0:13:53.997,0:13:56.395 Imagine if we could measure 0:13:56.395,0:13:58.925 what non-profits, charities, 0:13:58.925,0:14:00.894 volunteers, civil society organizations 0:14:00.894,0:14:04.700 really contribute to our society. 0:14:04.700,0:14:07.308 Imagine if businesses competed 0:14:07.308,0:14:11.499 not just on the basis of[br]their economic contribution, 0:14:11.499,0:14:12.963 but on their contribution 0:14:12.963,0:14:14.997 to social progress. 0:14:14.997,0:14:17.080 Imagine if we could hold 0:14:17.080,0:14:18.949 politicians to account 0:14:18.949,0:14:23.146 for really improving people's lives. 0:14:23.146,0:14:26.521 Imagine if we could work together, 0:14:26.521,0:14:28.189 governments, business, 0:14:28.189,0:14:29.533 civil society, 0:14:29.533,0:14:31.361 me, you 0:14:31.361,0:14:32.800 and make this century 0:14:32.800,0:14:36.704 the century of social progress. 0:14:36.704,0:14:37.783 Thank you. 0:14:37.783,0:14:43.815 (Applause)