[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.56,0:00:02.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music) Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.79,0:00:10.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Climate change exists\Noutside of human perception. Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.95,0:00:12.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's bigger than us. Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.10,0:00:15.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can see local expressions of it, Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.96,0:00:18.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we can't see the climate changing Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.03,0:00:19.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's really the inherent problem. Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.54,0:00:24.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's on a scale beyond\Nwhat we can perceive. Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.15,0:00:30.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The rain forest itself\Nspans nine countries. Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.05,0:00:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So as a subject alone, Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.20,0:00:32.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's hard to imagine as an object. Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.92,0:00:36.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(tree falling) Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.32,0:00:42.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're really on the tipping point now. Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.66,0:00:45.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,New research suggests that\Nactually the rainforest Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.84,0:00:48.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is no longer absorbing carbon. Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.03,0:00:49.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's so much burning happening, Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.08,0:00:51.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's now a net producer of carbon. Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.87,0:00:56.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But how to tell the story adequately, Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.82,0:00:59.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean we've seen one picture\Nof a burning rainforest, Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.58,0:01:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've seen them all in a way. Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.78,0:01:02.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And those pictures are very important, Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.25,0:01:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you know, Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.08,0:01:05.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's so much more to unpack\Nin the Brazilian Amazon. Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.80,0:01:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm very interested in\Ntrying to find a way to Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.40,0:01:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,express extremely, deeply complex things Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.94,0:01:14.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by looking very carefully\Nat these loaded landscapes, Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.23,0:01:18.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bigger subjects that the\Ncamera can't necessarily see. Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.76,0:01:29.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My first big project is\Nmy first real project, Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.46,0:01:31.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I chose the missing persons crisis Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.41,0:01:34.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in postwar Balkan nations. Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.17,0:01:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of people had not come home Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.58,0:01:37.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from war and had disappeared. Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.41,0:01:40.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were assumed to have\Nbeen buried in mass graves Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.05,0:01:41.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which had never been identified. Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.25,0:01:43.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the beautiful landscape of Bosnia Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.74,0:01:46.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and across the Balkans was\Nunderwritten by this tragedy. Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.68,0:01:50.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so there was an inherent\Ntension within the land itself, Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.12,0:01:53.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also an inherent abstraction\Nwithin the subject matter. Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.61,0:01:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was going around trying\Nto photograph something Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.20,0:01:57.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you can't put in front of the lens. Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.03,0:01:59.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I couldn't see. Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.87,0:02:03.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The lack of closure of an entire society Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.33,0:02:05.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to move on from war\Nbecause of an inability Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.64,0:02:07.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to mourn the dead. Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.30,0:02:11.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I started just\Nlooking at the landscape Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.67,0:02:12.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and documenting Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.19,0:02:19.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I suppose the absence within\Nthe lived environment, Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.71,0:02:20.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the inscription on the land, Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.97,0:02:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at least emotionally. Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.04,0:02:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But for me it was foundational. Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.78,0:02:26.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a way it's something\Nthat I keep coming back Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.73,0:02:28.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to in maybe all my projects. Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.09,0:02:38.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kodak had announced the discontinuation Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.55,0:02:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a specific infrared\Nfilm called Aerohrome Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.28,0:02:43.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was invented in World\NWar II in collaboration Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.94,0:02:46.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the US military for\Ncamouflage detection. Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.75,0:02:51.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So infrared light bounces\Noff the chlorophyll Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.66,0:02:52.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in healthy plants. Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.89,0:02:55.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Camouflage tends to be made of material, Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.23,0:02:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fabric or paint Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.40,0:02:58.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all of those don't have chlorophyll. Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.68,0:03:01.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you could image register infrared light Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.02,0:03:03.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you could instantly pick\Nout the enemy targets Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.18,0:03:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,essentially seeing through the camouflage. Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.84,0:03:14.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Congo, back then there was at least 50 Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.79,0:03:15.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different arm groups. Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.63,0:03:17.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think now there's more than 80 Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.28,0:03:18.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fighting against each other. Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.57,0:03:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's a very opaque conflict Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.43,0:03:26.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that as a result means\Nit's very overlooked. Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.84,0:03:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was taking a medium that literally Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.64,0:03:31.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can make visible what we can't see Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.83,0:03:35.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was smashing it into an unseeness. Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.08,0:03:38.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That metaphoric leap was very important Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.97,0:03:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it turned out the more I pushed it Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.04,0:03:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it began to really bare fruit. Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.78,0:03:45.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It started to be raising awareness Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.51,0:03:48.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of some of these narratives\Nthat I was documenting Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.06,0:03:50.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that was remarkable. Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.19,0:03:55.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that was the sort of\Nbeginning of a new phase Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.38,0:03:57.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in my practice which I\Nthink is kind of continuing Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.48,0:04:00.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until today of using\Nsurveillance technologies Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.33,0:04:03.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try to push the limits of the camera, Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.30,0:04:05.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the documentary image specifically. Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.12,0:04:10.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Finishing my project in Congo Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.53,0:04:12.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found out about a\Nspecific surveillance camera Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.90,0:04:15.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that can see and perceive heat. Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.90,0:04:18.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's proven to image the human body heat Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.60,0:04:20.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from 30 kilometers distance, Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.43,0:04:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a good 19 miles. Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.83,0:04:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The image that it produced\Nwas very uncanny and haunting. Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.23,0:04:30.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The heat within our blood and our veins Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.18,0:04:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is instantly depicted in\Nways that we can't see Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.12,0:04:34.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the human eye, Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.41,0:04:36.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our breath, our sweat. Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.45,0:04:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(beeping sound) Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.64,0:04:39.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Wait, wait, wait, wait. Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.66,0:04:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just a moment. Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.50,0:04:41.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just a moment. Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.91,0:04:49.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And at that time, Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.05,0:04:53.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was this exponential\Nwave of illegal immigration Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.62,0:04:55.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the European Union. Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.11,0:05:00.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Refugees come to claim their\Nhuman rights of asylum. Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.08,0:05:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This camera itself can be\Nseen as a weapons technology Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.72,0:05:08.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to detect and to turn them back. Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.58,0:05:11.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was the perfect prism to mediate all Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.61,0:05:15.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the complex narratives\Nthat I began to document Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.03,0:05:16.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over a course of several years. Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.64,0:05:21.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were a lot of people Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.99,0:05:24.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there still are a lot of people, Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.54,0:05:27.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dying, drowning of\Nexposure to the weather. Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.66,0:05:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this camera is designed to indexically Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.00,0:05:32.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reveal human mortality expressed Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.25,0:05:34.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through cellular combustion. Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.61,0:05:38.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a remarkable instance Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.13,0:05:40.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the camera showing us\Nsomething we can't even see. Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.53,0:05:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Red Cross volunteers\Nrubbing the life giving heat Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.38,0:05:45.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,onto the blankets that have been swaddled Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.81,0:05:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around this dying person. Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.42,0:05:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you could see the thermal hand print, Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.58,0:05:52.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the life giving warmth being transferred. Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.82,0:05:55.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm there primarily as a human Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.32,0:05:57.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there are instances\Nwhere we put our things Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.38,0:06:00.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things down and help\Nwhen there's no one else. Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.42,0:06:02.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's just what humans do. Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.15,0:06:05.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in the instances\Nwhen we continue to film, Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.19,0:06:08.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when there are other volunteers\Nfor example, working, Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.95,0:06:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a real sense of\Nbelief in what we do, Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.10,0:06:19.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a sense of faith in the importance\Nof the documentary image Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.80,0:06:21.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the evidential image. Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.63,0:06:24.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Otherwise you wouldn't go\Nto those lengths to carry Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.69,0:06:27.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those that kind of recording out. Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.14,0:06:34.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I made a series of\Npanoramic large scale images, Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.23,0:06:36.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heat maps of refugee camps. Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.81,0:06:39.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I also made a three\Nscreen immersive video Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.27,0:06:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called Incoming with sound by Ben Frost Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.32,0:06:45.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and cinematography by Trevor Tweeten. Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.54,0:06:48.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So these are the good friends of mine Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.01,0:06:50.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who I collaborated with\Nalso in the Enclave in Congo Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.49,0:06:53.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and whom I worked with again\Non my new film, Broken Spectre. Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.41,0:07:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can we try ultra on this screen? Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.17,0:07:16.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Photography is at the very heart Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.23,0:07:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of understanding the\Nvelocity of deforestation Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.16,0:07:21.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I began researching the cameras Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.75,0:07:23.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the satellites that\Nproduce all the data. Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.26,0:07:33.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what really made me\Nmore curious was the fact Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.54,0:07:36.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the same cameras are\Nbeing used by agribusiness Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.51,0:07:40.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and mining to maximize the\Nexploitation of the land. Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.00,0:07:46.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I also wanted to change gears Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.98,0:07:49.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because a lot of the\Nstuff we see in the Amazon Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.11,0:07:52.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is taken from over, from a high altitude. Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.62,0:07:55.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What about the stuff we\Ndon't see, the non-human? Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.42,0:08:07.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you take one square inch\Nof life in the rainforest, Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.11,0:08:09.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's just, it's tripping with life. Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.51,0:08:11.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just the amount of\Nspecies is extraordinary. Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.35,0:08:15.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Scientists use ultraviolet lights to try Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.69,0:08:17.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and show things about plants. Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.49,0:08:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I borrow that language Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.96,0:08:20.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and created these very strange, Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.70,0:08:23.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost gothic nocturns. Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.07,0:08:31.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah, we can put the big flat bar here. Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.89,0:08:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's keep that. Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.78,0:08:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You can see actually little animals Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.28,0:08:37.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in there moving around. Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.17,0:08:38.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had a lot of technical issues. Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.46,0:08:40.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah, we'd spend hours and hours Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.44,0:08:42.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then all of a sudden\Nthe light would turn off Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.81,0:08:44.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then or the camera would shut down. Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.22,0:08:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually half the time the\Ncamera was overheating. Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.20,0:08:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The third scale that I chose to examine Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.72,0:08:56.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was the human scale. Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.78,0:09:05.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We hold a lot of responsibility Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.79,0:09:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the processes that\Nunfold in the Amazon. Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.76,0:09:11.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of the cheap beef\Ndirectly coming straight Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.13,0:09:14.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from encroached primary forest\Nand also just our banks. Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.73,0:09:16.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of that money's predicated Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.23,0:09:18.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on agribusiness interests in Brazil. Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.29,0:09:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's everywhere. Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.60,0:09:24.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It surrounds us, but how\Ndo we implicate the viewer? Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.63,0:09:27.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the real problem and\None that we wanted to do. Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.35,0:09:30.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And our answer was to make a western. Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.77,0:09:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's weirdly incongruous Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.78,0:09:44.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you would think with the rainforest, Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.67,0:09:46.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but actually everywhere\Nwe went in the rainforest Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.95,0:09:50.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of the processes we were\Nwitnessing of deforestation Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.10,0:09:51.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were being carried out by cowboys. Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.33,0:10:00.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cowboy culture actually\Nbegan centuries ago in Spain Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.84,0:10:02.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then it was exported to North America Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.85,0:10:04.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where it became its own distinct thing. Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.77,0:10:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when it made its way to\NNorthern Brazil in the Amazon Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.68,0:10:11.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it became sort of bastardized\Nby the cultural aspirations Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.73,0:10:16.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the United States, of manifest destiny Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.89,0:10:19.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which had already\Ndevastated the environment Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.26,0:10:21.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Indigenous communities\Nin the United States, Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.78,0:10:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but is now doing the same in the Amazon, Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.78,0:10:26.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's almost identical in spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.24,0:10:32.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The texture of the Spaghetti Western Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.04,0:10:33.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,immediately resonates with the viewer, Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.96,0:10:35.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the Western viewer anyway. Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.25,0:10:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that hopefully\Nthat will be overly Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.77,0:10:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,familiar to us. Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.94,0:10:42.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is our culture. Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.87,0:10:59.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't set out, Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.46,0:11:01.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,open the door one\Nmorning with a fixed idea Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.32,0:11:02.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we have to go and prove. Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.75,0:11:07.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We try to absorb the narrative\Nin the field in real life Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.47,0:11:09.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's a conversation with the subject Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.18,0:11:11.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and with the people whom\Nwe meet along the way. Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.59,0:11:18.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- There's nothing that\Nis like actually being Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.33,0:11:19.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the field and you\Njust learn so much just Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.98,0:11:22.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from conversations with\Npeople on the ground. Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.11,0:11:23.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just amazing. Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.06,0:11:31.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- My power, if I have any, is\Nto be able to show you this Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.17,0:11:35.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I've seen in a\Nmore powerful way than, Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.21,0:11:37.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I dunno than perhaps the\Npictures that you've seen Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.80,0:11:39.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the newspaper of the same thing. Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.57,0:11:44.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or in a new and different way\Nand to make you remember that.