WEBVTT 00:00:11.667 --> 00:00:14.001 Let me start by asking you a question. 00:00:14.583 --> 00:00:18.731 Imagine you decided to buy a new T-shirt 00:00:18.732 --> 00:00:21.737 so you drive to your favorite shop, 00:00:21.738 --> 00:00:23.524 you look at the choice they offer, 00:00:23.525 --> 00:00:25.998 and you narrow it down to two T-shirts 00:00:25.999 --> 00:00:28.298 that you find more or less equally cool. 00:00:28.299 --> 00:00:30.247 You hold them in your hands, 00:00:30.248 --> 00:00:32.610 and you know that one of them comes from a company 00:00:32.610 --> 00:00:37.674 that is known for very decent working conditions in the production. 00:00:37.675 --> 00:00:40.698 No child labor, fair wages. 00:00:40.699 --> 00:00:44.380 You know it doesn't include toxic chemicals for the coloring, 00:00:44.381 --> 00:00:47.055 and it's made with organic cotton. 00:00:47.056 --> 00:00:48.797 The T-shirt in the other hand, 00:00:48.798 --> 00:00:52.126 as you remember from the media, a week before, 00:00:52.127 --> 00:00:53.778 comes from a brand quite notorious 00:00:53.779 --> 00:00:56.086 for so-called "sweat shop" working conditions. 00:00:56.087 --> 00:00:57.876 So, maybe child labor, 00:00:57.877 --> 00:00:59.746 certainly, no fair wages, 00:00:59.747 --> 00:01:03.304 full of toxic chemicals, and not organic. 00:01:04.529 --> 00:01:08.130 As I told you, you like them more or less the same. 00:01:08.131 --> 00:01:11.249 Who of you would, in that situation, 00:01:11.250 --> 00:01:13.186 pick the more responsible T-shirt? 00:01:13.187 --> 00:01:15.236 Please raise your hand. 00:01:18.027 --> 00:01:19.228 OK. 00:01:21.218 --> 00:01:22.628 That's a majority. 00:01:23.688 --> 00:01:28.139 Now think about the last time you bought a T-shirt. 00:01:29.352 --> 00:01:31.605 Did you take into consideration 00:01:31.606 --> 00:01:36.256 the social and environmental aspects of your decision? 00:01:36.257 --> 00:01:38.639 Did you think about 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:42.604 the social and environmental performance of the brands behind the T-shirt? 00:01:43.113 --> 00:01:46.678 Or the last time you bought a computer, or a smartphone? 00:01:47.186 --> 00:01:50.274 Did you check for the human rights conditions 00:01:50.287 --> 00:01:52.730 in the production of these products? 00:01:54.792 --> 00:01:56.209 Probably not. 00:01:58.884 --> 00:02:03.813 What you have here is the so-called "intention-behavior gap." 00:02:05.093 --> 00:02:07.362 We have all the best intentions, 00:02:07.363 --> 00:02:10.458 but when it comes to the real decision making, 00:02:11.396 --> 00:02:12.957 we forget about it, 00:02:12.958 --> 00:02:17.737 or we have many reasons why in that moment we cannot do it. 00:02:17.738 --> 00:02:19.247 What drives that gap? 00:02:19.248 --> 00:02:20.660 So why does it exist? 00:02:20.661 --> 00:02:23.751 Why do we so often fail to do what we intend to do 00:02:23.752 --> 00:02:25.621 when it comes to sustainability? 00:02:26.677 --> 00:02:29.748 You might think it has to do with information. 00:02:31.129 --> 00:02:34.083 So if we just would know about all these things, 00:02:34.084 --> 00:02:36.293 then we would make better decisions, 00:02:36.294 --> 00:02:40.228 more informed, more responsible decisions as consumers. 00:02:41.263 --> 00:02:44.121 Think about April 2013, 00:02:45.247 --> 00:02:49.096 when this garment factory collapsed in Dhaka, Bangladesh. 00:02:49.781 --> 00:02:52.355 You have seen these pictures on the news. 00:02:52.832 --> 00:02:55.831 You might even recall some of the brand names. 00:02:56.195 --> 00:02:57.756 Brands being produced there. 00:02:57.757 --> 00:03:01.046 You might even have bought these brands before or afterwards. 00:03:01.589 --> 00:03:03.458 One year earlier, 00:03:03.459 --> 00:03:08.210 you certainly heard of the story about the workers at Foxconn, 00:03:08.214 --> 00:03:12.026 the factory producing smartphones and computers, 00:03:12.027 --> 00:03:14.096 jumping from the roofs of the factory 00:03:14.097 --> 00:03:17.565 because of the desperation for their working conditions. 00:03:18.825 --> 00:03:22.111 You all know that you might be the last generation eating tuna fish. 00:03:22.959 --> 00:03:26.209 You have heard all these stories about child labor and slave labor 00:03:26.210 --> 00:03:31.334 in chocolate, in sugar, in gold, in coltan, you name it. 00:03:32.706 --> 00:03:34.870 If you've never heard about all these things, 00:03:34.871 --> 00:03:37.618 you've probably spent the last 20 years on an island, 00:03:37.619 --> 00:03:39.399 like Robinson Crusoe. 00:03:39.417 --> 00:03:43.858 So information is not the problem. Information is not the problem. 00:03:43.859 --> 00:03:46.648 We are very good in shifting the blame somewhere else 00:03:46.667 --> 00:03:50.666 and rationalising our own unsustainable decisions. 00:03:50.667 --> 00:03:57.251 We shift the blame on the corporations. We say it's about production problems. 00:03:57.251 --> 00:03:59.695 So we frame it as a problem of production. 00:03:59.696 --> 00:04:02.347 We ask corporations to change their behavior. 00:04:02.348 --> 00:04:04.469 There's some truth in that as well, 00:04:04.470 --> 00:04:06.254 but that's only part of the story 00:04:06.255 --> 00:04:09.678 because basically, the sustainability problems 00:04:09.679 --> 00:04:13.770 that we face today are problems of our way of life. 00:04:15.227 --> 00:04:16.750 We want more stuff, 00:04:16.750 --> 00:04:20.834 at an ever higher speed and an ever lower price. 00:04:21.382 --> 00:04:23.103 So we are part of the problem. 00:04:23.104 --> 00:04:27.446 It's not just about improving the current production conditions, 00:04:27.447 --> 00:04:30.895 it's also about changing the culture of consumption. 00:04:31.918 --> 00:04:33.784 So it's not about information. 00:04:34.334 --> 00:04:38.960 What is it that explains this gap between intentions and behavior? 00:04:40.454 --> 00:04:43.835 Most of the time, when we make decisions as consumers, 00:04:43.836 --> 00:04:48.541 we do so in an automatic way, we cruise on auto-pilot. 00:04:48.542 --> 00:04:52.293 We act without thinking. It's just routine decisions. 00:04:52.324 --> 00:04:56.792 It's deeply embedded, taken-for-granted habits 00:04:56.793 --> 00:04:58.861 that drive our behavior. 00:04:58.862 --> 00:05:01.063 Just think about the last time 00:05:01.064 --> 00:05:05.105 you tried not to check emails on your smartphone. 00:05:05.817 --> 00:05:07.393 You probably failed. 00:05:08.474 --> 00:05:11.158 Habits can be stronger than reason. 00:05:11.877 --> 00:05:15.603 So if you want to make consumption more sustainable, 00:05:15.604 --> 00:05:18.494 we have to reprogram habits. 00:05:19.113 --> 00:05:21.502 You must imagine a habit like an iceberg. 00:05:21.503 --> 00:05:25.018 What you can see on the surface is the behavior. 00:05:25.667 --> 00:05:30.320 What you cannot see under the water are the values and beliefs 00:05:30.321 --> 00:05:33.194 that drive that behavior. 00:05:34.375 --> 00:05:37.126 So if you want to change someone's habit, 00:05:37.162 --> 00:05:38.289 which is not easy, 00:05:38.290 --> 00:05:42.220 you can either directly target the behavior, 00:05:42.221 --> 00:05:46.263 let's assume we would try to get rid of the habit of smoking, 00:05:46.264 --> 00:05:50.294 so we can we make it illegal to smoke in public places. 00:05:50.919 --> 00:05:53.474 You directly target the behavior. 00:05:53.475 --> 00:05:58.417 Or you can target the values and beliefs under the water 00:05:58.418 --> 00:06:01.245 that drive the behavior in the first place, 00:06:01.247 --> 00:06:02.958 which is much more difficult, 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:06.300 but which creates much profounder changes. 00:06:07.723 --> 00:06:11.779 How do we normally speak to these values and beliefs? 00:06:11.780 --> 00:06:16.655 We speak to these values and beliefs in our society through stories. 00:06:18.235 --> 00:06:24.218 Stories shape, and reinforce, and break habits. 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:29.751 Just think about how children love fairy-tales, 00:06:30.312 --> 00:06:34.024 how we transport values and beliefs through fairy-tales. 00:06:34.288 --> 00:06:38.380 Think about how the old ancient Greek and Roman societies 00:06:38.381 --> 00:06:41.630 were guided by strong mythologies, 00:06:42.353 --> 00:06:46.746 highly complex stories that guided the behavior of people in everyday life. 00:06:48.100 --> 00:06:51.539 If you want to stop smoking, for instance, to go back to that story, 00:06:51.540 --> 00:06:54.272 you can either make it illegal in public places, 00:06:54.273 --> 00:06:57.740 or you can reprogram the beliefs and values 00:06:57.750 --> 00:07:00.167 that drive that behavior. 00:07:00.915 --> 00:07:04.785 The tobacco industry is very good in creating these stories. 00:07:04.786 --> 00:07:06.367 For teenagers, they create 00:07:06.368 --> 00:07:10.337 a story of coolness, and risk, and adulthood. 00:07:10.338 --> 00:07:12.054 That's exactly what teenagers want. 00:07:12.055 --> 00:07:15.628 So they will smoke as long as they believe it's cool, 00:07:15.629 --> 00:07:18.109 and it's promoting their growing up. 00:07:18.110 --> 00:07:23.508 For women, they used the story of emancipation and sexiness. 00:07:24.129 --> 00:07:25.678 For poor people in Africa, 00:07:25.679 --> 00:07:28.988 they used the story of the European prosperity, 00:07:28.989 --> 00:07:32.724 "You can reach it a little bit if you start smoking." 00:07:32.725 --> 00:07:35.638 So if you want to change a habit, 00:07:35.645 --> 00:07:39.244 you have to find stories that are stronger and more powerful 00:07:39.245 --> 00:07:42.140 than the stories that drive the behavior in the first place. 00:07:42.141 --> 00:07:45.895 The problem of the sustainability movement 00:07:45.896 --> 00:07:49.086 is that it has no stories to tell, 00:07:49.745 --> 00:07:54.321 no stories that are powerful enough to break the power of the story 00:07:54.322 --> 00:07:57.336 that drives our consumption in the first place. 00:07:57.337 --> 00:07:58.908 What is that story about? 00:07:58.909 --> 00:08:04.159 This is basically the story of the 20th century consumer society. 00:08:05.725 --> 00:08:09.790 It is a story that grew over decades and became stronger and stronger. 00:08:09.791 --> 00:08:14.204 It starts with the positive outlook on the future. 00:08:14.205 --> 00:08:17.032 We believe in a bright future. 00:08:17.033 --> 00:08:19.164 We believe that technology leads us there. 00:08:19.165 --> 00:08:21.032 We put a man on the Moon. 00:08:21.892 --> 00:08:25.733 Technology will make our production system ever more efficient, 00:08:25.734 --> 00:08:30.051 so we can produce more stuff at higher speed and lower costs. 00:08:30.459 --> 00:08:36.082 We buy that stuff because by buying stuff we become someone, 00:08:36.082 --> 00:08:41.207 we belong somewhere, we increase our happiness. 00:08:41.219 --> 00:08:43.710 So the story that drives our behavior 00:08:43.711 --> 00:08:47.709 is the story that makes a link between technological progress, 00:08:48.911 --> 00:08:53.288 economic efficiency, growth, consumption, and happiness. 00:08:53.731 --> 00:08:57.651 And you feel the happiness in the immediate gratification, 00:08:57.661 --> 00:09:00.841 when you bought the T-shirt, for instance. 00:09:01.959 --> 00:09:03.958 In recent years, 00:09:03.959 --> 00:09:07.460 this story has received a bit of competition. 00:09:07.479 --> 00:09:09.934 There's another story going around, 00:09:09.935 --> 00:09:13.893 and this is basically the story about the side effects of the first story. 00:09:13.894 --> 00:09:16.394 We learn that when we consume more, 00:09:18.601 --> 00:09:22.257 we can increase our happiness only to a certain degree, 00:09:22.258 --> 00:09:23.834 then it falls down. 00:09:24.546 --> 00:09:26.604 It's a U-shape; a negative U-shape, a curve. 00:09:26.724 --> 00:09:28.668 negative U shape, a curve. 00:09:28.709 --> 00:09:33.834 We smoke, we get cancer. We eat, we get diabetes. 00:09:34.647 --> 00:09:39.616 We buy stuff all the time, we feel empty and get depressed. 00:09:39.617 --> 00:09:41.767 On the level of society we learn 00:09:41.780 --> 00:09:44.936 all these consumption decisions aggregate 00:09:44.937 --> 00:09:47.271 in large scale environmental problems. 00:09:47.834 --> 00:09:51.543 The forest disappears, the ice is melting, 00:09:51.572 --> 00:09:55.694 and in a few decades, probably Manhattan will be under water. 00:09:55.695 --> 00:09:59.785 There will be more migration, more poverty, more wars, less water. 00:09:59.786 --> 00:10:05.410 This is actually the post-vision of the future. 00:10:05.417 --> 00:10:10.376 It's an apocalyptic future. It's a future that is dystopian. 00:10:10.730 --> 00:10:13.551 It's a story about the collapse of the planet. 00:10:15.174 --> 00:10:16.781 So you have these two stories, 00:10:16.782 --> 00:10:19.235 the utopian story about your happiness, 00:10:19.236 --> 00:10:22.954 and the dystopian story about the end of the world. 00:10:22.955 --> 00:10:25.350 Next time you go in a shop and buy a T-shirt, 00:10:25.351 --> 00:10:28.295 you will hear two voices in your ear. 00:10:28.296 --> 00:10:31.576 One voice will tell you, "why don't you buy both?" 00:10:31.577 --> 00:10:33.077 (Laughter) 00:10:33.078 --> 00:10:34.933 "You double your happiness." 00:10:34.934 --> 00:10:36.110 (Laughter) 00:10:36.111 --> 00:10:39.900 But you might start to doubt about the evidence of that. 00:10:40.756 --> 00:10:42.722 So there's the other story, 00:10:43.308 --> 00:10:45.581 "Do you really need a T-shirt?" 00:10:45.582 --> 00:10:50.192 OK, if you need it, buy the organic one. the fair one. 00:10:50.193 --> 00:10:51.942 ...and did you come by bus? 00:10:51.943 --> 00:10:53.318 (Laughter) 00:10:53.319 --> 00:10:56.043 Did you switch off the light when you left your house? 00:10:57.010 --> 00:11:00.652 If you did all these things, you might save the planet. 00:11:01.829 --> 00:11:04.755 Saving the planet by switching off the light? 00:11:05.555 --> 00:11:08.440 Two days ago, I was walking through London, 00:11:08.441 --> 00:11:10.557 and there was a printing shop, 00:11:10.578 --> 00:11:13.323 which obviously used some advanced green technology 00:11:13.324 --> 00:11:15.269 because in their window, 00:11:15.270 --> 00:11:18.560 they invited me to save the planet with them. 00:11:19.430 --> 00:11:23.777 I didn't know that this planet will be saved by a printing shop in London. 00:11:23.778 --> 00:11:27.498 And what I assume is that these kind of stories 00:11:27.499 --> 00:11:30.494 are just an insult to our minds, to our intelligence. 00:11:30.495 --> 00:11:31.884 We don't believe them. 00:11:31.885 --> 00:11:35.533 We don't believe this strange causal link 00:11:35.534 --> 00:11:40.256 between our little decisions and the apocalyptic future. 00:11:40.257 --> 00:11:42.028 So these stories are not credible. 00:11:42.029 --> 00:11:43.966 They don't speak to our minds. 00:11:43.967 --> 00:11:49.822 II they come in the negative form, we are doomed, the planet is lost. 00:11:51.491 --> 00:11:53.351 They don't speak to our emotions, 00:11:53.352 --> 00:11:57.843 because they appeal to fear, they give us no hope. 00:11:57.844 --> 00:12:01.383 But fear only drives behavior when the threat is immediate. 00:12:02.616 --> 00:12:06.403 Manhattan will be under water when I will be dead, 00:12:06.404 --> 00:12:07.931 and you as well. 00:12:08.944 --> 00:12:10.797 So this doesn't drive my behavior. 00:12:10.798 --> 00:12:12.653 This story is not strong enough 00:12:12.654 --> 00:12:16.032 to break the power of the immediate happiness 00:12:16.033 --> 00:12:18.738 that I can get when I buy both T-shirts. 00:12:19.301 --> 00:12:20.573 We need different stories. 00:12:20.574 --> 00:12:23.619 We need stories that include ourselves. 00:12:23.620 --> 00:12:28.143 There are stories about our happiness connected to the well-being of the planet, 00:12:28.144 --> 00:12:30.085 stories of our future, 00:12:30.086 --> 00:12:33.096 in which we are the actors who make the decisions 00:12:33.097 --> 00:12:34.725 and feel the change. 00:12:35.695 --> 00:12:37.035 This might be a bit abstract 00:12:37.036 --> 00:12:40.292 so let me tell you a story about such a story. 00:12:40.822 --> 00:12:42.835 I don't know how you would feel 00:12:42.836 --> 00:12:47.171 if you hear that in your neighbourhood a new fast food restaurant is opening up. 00:12:47.716 --> 00:12:49.848 You might not even care, 00:12:49.849 --> 00:12:53.451 but this is a story about someone who got really really angry 00:12:53.452 --> 00:12:57.048 when he heard that MacDonald's was opening a new restaurant 00:12:57.049 --> 00:12:59.566 at the Spanish Steps in Rome; 00:12:59.567 --> 00:13:04.598 the Spanish Steps in Rome, at the heart of the cultural heritage of Italy - 00:13:05.460 --> 00:13:10.481 fast food, the opposition of what Italians are so proud of, 00:13:10.482 --> 00:13:11.719 their food. 00:13:12.417 --> 00:13:14.126 This guy was Carlo Pertini, 00:13:14.153 --> 00:13:16.029 and he channeled his anger 00:13:16.040 --> 00:13:18.979 by creating the slow food movement. 00:13:19.404 --> 00:13:23.061 The slow food movement basically, is a movement 00:13:23.062 --> 00:13:25.264 that fights against this broad nexus 00:13:25.265 --> 00:13:30.159 of industrialized, mechanical food production 00:13:30.160 --> 00:13:33.446 and mindless, unhealthy food consumption, 00:13:33.459 --> 00:13:36.293 from the Monsantos to the MacDonald's. 00:13:38.292 --> 00:13:40.918 This movement was created by Carlo Petrini 00:13:40.924 --> 00:13:44.353 because he believes that we have to change the way we eat. 00:13:45.501 --> 00:13:50.141 We have to eat local food, healthy food. 00:13:50.142 --> 00:13:51.848 We have to produce locally. 00:13:51.849 --> 00:13:55.702 We have to protect our biodiversity, our cultural heritage. 00:13:55.703 --> 00:13:58.149 We have to recreate the link that is lost 00:13:58.150 --> 00:14:00.746 between the producer and the consumer. 00:14:00.747 --> 00:14:05.559 We have to educate consumers and producers to change their habits. 00:14:07.125 --> 00:14:12.167 This story that started as a little Italian episode 00:14:12.167 --> 00:14:14.001 has become a huge global movement, 00:14:14.002 --> 00:14:18.546 with more than 100,000 actors in more than 150 countries. 00:14:19.795 --> 00:14:22.278 Why is this story so powerful? 00:14:24.665 --> 00:14:28.733 This story is so powerful because we all can connect to it. 00:14:30.114 --> 00:14:33.200 You have concerns about the health of your children, 00:14:33.201 --> 00:14:34.854 you can connect to it. 00:14:36.770 --> 00:14:41.194 You hate the growing influence of multinationals on the way we eat, 00:14:41.473 --> 00:14:42.898 you can connect to it. 00:14:44.290 --> 00:14:47.587 You are a promoter of local traditions, 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:49.686 you can connect to it. 00:14:51.322 --> 00:14:53.820 You want to preserve biodiversity, 00:14:53.821 --> 00:14:55.589 you can connect to it. 00:14:55.590 --> 00:14:58.868 You want to help poor farmers somewhere in Latin America 00:14:59.359 --> 00:15:02.963 at the end of the supply chains of our production system, 00:15:02.976 --> 00:15:04.738 you can connect to that story. 00:15:04.739 --> 00:15:07.441 We all can somehow connect to that story 00:15:07.442 --> 00:15:12.104 through our own beliefs and values in that very moment. 00:15:13.020 --> 00:15:16.122 What started as a very small Italian episode 00:15:17.083 --> 00:15:20.208 has turned into a trans-cultural movement, 00:15:20.211 --> 00:15:24.503 because it is a story that speaks to everyone, potentially. 00:15:27.129 --> 00:15:32.359 So, the next time you speak with your children 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:36.408 about sustainability, ask yourself, "What kind of story will I tell them?" 00:15:37.194 --> 00:15:38.549 And keep in mind 00:15:38.550 --> 00:15:42.445 it has to be a story about yourself, and your children, and your future. 00:15:43.135 --> 00:15:45.349 When you are a manager, ask yourself, 00:15:45.350 --> 00:15:48.662 "How do I talk about sustainability with my clients?" 00:15:49.962 --> 00:15:51.833 You probably in the past talked about 00:15:51.834 --> 00:15:54.513 the greatness of your engagement, 00:15:54.514 --> 00:15:56.288 your wonderful products. 00:15:56.289 --> 00:15:59.733 These are small stories that will not change the world 00:15:59.734 --> 00:16:02.440 You need a great story to which many people can connect, 00:16:02.441 --> 00:16:05.182 in many industries and in many circumstances. 00:16:06.061 --> 00:16:10.085 When you are a teacher, ask yourself, "How can I inspire my students?" 00:16:10.918 --> 00:16:16.293 As a journalist, your readers. As a politician, your citizens. 00:16:17.392 --> 00:16:20.344 Yes, we need more technology and better technology 00:16:20.345 --> 00:16:22.313 to improve the state of the world, 00:16:22.314 --> 00:16:25.410 but what we have underestimated so far 00:16:25.818 --> 00:16:29.120 is this amazing soft power of storytelling. 00:16:29.125 --> 00:16:33.412 We're telling the wrong stories, and we have to change that. 00:16:33.413 --> 00:16:34.673 Thank you. 00:16:34.674 --> 00:16:36.190 (Applause)