[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.48,0:00:01.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Welcome, everybody. Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.38,0:00:03.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My name is Łukasz Cichocki, Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.32,0:00:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I will tell you something\Nabout Pan Cogito Hotel, Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.18,0:00:10.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was mentioned just right now. Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.47,0:00:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But before, I would like to tell [you] Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.58,0:00:19.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the way to Pan Cogito Hotel. Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.87,0:00:23.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, Pan Cogito is an element Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.39,0:00:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of an integrated\Ncommunity treatment program Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.41,0:00:30.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for people suffering\Nfrom schizophrenia, in Cracow. Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.03,0:00:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this integrated community program Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.61,0:00:41.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was supported by the spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.80,0:00:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the [ideas]\Nof Professor Antoni Kępiński. Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.14,0:00:49.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope that some of you,\Nespecially [people] from Cracow, Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.57,0:00:51.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know this name. Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.52,0:00:53.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This man was a Professor of Psychiatry. Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.98,0:00:59.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He lived in the 20th century,\Ndied in 1972. Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.96,0:01:05.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he taught\NCracow's psychiatry many things. Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.34,0:01:08.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like to mention three of them Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.92,0:01:12.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are, I would say, the most crucial,\Nor most important things Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.82,0:01:16.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the [relationship]\Nbetween the psychiatrist and the patient. Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.53,0:01:19.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first [one] is respect. Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.75,0:01:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Respect as, I would say, the basis, Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.89,0:01:30.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the thing without which\Nwe can't help other people, Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.14,0:01:33.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially people with mental disorders, Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.11,0:01:36.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with mental problems. Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.49,0:01:42.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was not sure whether to say\Nwhat I will say now, Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.99,0:01:47.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but German Nazis were present\Na couple of times Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.11,0:01:50.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during today's sessions, Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.100,0:01:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I would like to mention them\Nonce again. Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.91,0:01:57.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because disrespect for mentally ill people Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.83,0:02:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes leads to very horrible things. Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.53,0:02:03.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the German Nazi [era], Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.88,0:02:12.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more or less 200 thousand\Nmentally ill people were exterminated, Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.14,0:02:15.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just because of the fact\Nthat they were mentally ill. Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.43,0:02:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that it is, say, the most -- Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.37,0:02:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The biggest example of disrespect. Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.35,0:02:32.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this disrespect\Nis quite common also today. Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.95,0:02:35.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we as professionals, Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.04,0:02:36.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think also we as people, Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.15,0:02:40.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we should [point out] this disrespect Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.37,0:02:46.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to our neighbors, our colleagues,\Nour friends, sometimes, Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.58,0:02:48.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or our family [members]. Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.34,0:02:53.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because, as I [said], without this respect Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.10,0:02:55.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can't be helpful, Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.76,0:02:59.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we can't be effective\Nin this relationship. Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.87,0:03:05.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second thing\Nthat Prof. Kępiński taught us Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.70,0:03:06.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is very important, Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.37,0:03:09.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is listening to these people. Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.09,0:03:13.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a time in psychiatry,\Nquite a long time, Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.64,0:03:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that psychiatrists or professionals\N"knew better" Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.98,0:03:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what was good for people\Nwith mental disorders. Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.17,0:03:24.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And let's say that this inequality Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.60,0:03:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was also in this [aspect of]\N"We know better, Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.43,0:03:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so we don't need to listen to them." Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.04,0:03:37.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we learned from Prof. Kępiński, Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.10,0:03:39.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we also learned it from our patients, Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.08,0:03:41.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how important it is to listen to them. Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.26,0:03:44.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To listen to what they say, Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.78,0:03:48.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to pay attention to what they feel. Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.01,0:03:53.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To listen to what they need from us. Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.68,0:03:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it's not so -- Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.22,0:03:58.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everybody needs something else, Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.39,0:04:05.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that is [unique to] this person. Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.19,0:04:12.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Respect, listening,\Nand the third thing is supporting. Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.23,0:04:17.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it's not enough\Nto respect and to listen. Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.26,0:04:26.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These people are very often\Nin very big pain, very big suffering. Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.62,0:04:31.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are very often isolated, Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.72,0:04:34.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,socially isolated,\Nthey are withdrawn emotionally. Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.28,0:04:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they need some kind of encouragement Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.99,0:04:40.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go out of this isolation, Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.19,0:04:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to start to be with other people,\Nlive with other people, Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.82,0:04:46.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to cooperate with other people. Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.32,0:04:52.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this support has different aspects. Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.48,0:04:57.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because, of course, there is an aspect\Nof verbal support, Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.16,0:05:00.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we say some words\Nthat are supportive for these people. Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.40,0:05:04.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's sometimes not enough. Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.68,0:05:09.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes, we need to create\Nsome kind of social space Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.15,0:05:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for these people. Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.04,0:05:15.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some social space that would be more safe, Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.54,0:05:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or more nice than usual social spaces, Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.90,0:05:26.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to help them\Nto make this step from this isolation Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.02,0:05:29.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,towards the outer world. Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.43,0:05:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In these three things, Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.95,0:05:41.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we use different tools,\Nor methods, to help these people. Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.78,0:05:45.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of them is, of course,\Npharmacotherapy. Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.32,0:05:48.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are many situations Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.09,0:05:51.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which we can't help\Nthese people effectively Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.45,0:05:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without the help of the [medication]. Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.44,0:06:00.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it is, in many cases, not enough. Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.41,0:06:05.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many of these people\Nhave such a difficult life history, Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.91,0:06:09.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such difficult events in their lives, Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.97,0:06:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they really need\Ndifferent kinds of psychotherapy. Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.58,0:06:17.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It could be individual,\Ngroup or family psychotherapy. Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.60,0:06:24.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In order to make their lives\Nmore understandable, Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.36,0:06:26.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to share their problems, Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.00,0:06:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to see that other people\Nunderstand them, Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.08,0:06:37.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also to see\Nthat they can change their lives, Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.86,0:06:41.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they can cope better\Nwith various kinds of stress, Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.70,0:06:44.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the various kinds of trauma\Nthey encounter. Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.70,0:06:52.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another important aspect\Nwe try to use in helping these people Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.93,0:06:54.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the social approach. Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.80,0:06:56.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In many cases, Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.22,0:07:00.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they need not only psychotherapy\Nor pharmacotherapy, Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.89,0:07:04.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they need a safe place to live in. Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.25,0:07:08.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, a sheltered flat. Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.52,0:07:15.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They sometimes need their free time\N[to be organized]. Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.77,0:07:23.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I've often gone with my patients\Nto therapeutical camps Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.11,0:07:26.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or therapeutical excursions. Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.84,0:07:32.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They need other people\Nthey can trust, or cooperate with, Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.20,0:07:37.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do different things in life together. Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.09,0:07:42.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of these people need rehabilitation. Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.64,0:07:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, different methods\Nthat will help them to -- Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.34,0:07:50.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or -- Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.83,0:07:59.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to recreate some abilities\Nthey had before, Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.60,0:08:03.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order that they come back to work, Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.32,0:08:06.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or come back to [college] or to school. Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.44,0:08:14.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in many cases what they need\Nis help in finding [a job]. Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.25,0:08:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or in coming back to work. Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.38,0:08:26.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These people are in many areas\Nmore vulnerable, Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.48,0:08:30.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or [sensitive]\Nthan it is usually [the case]. Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.16,0:08:34.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But without [a job] -- Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.77,0:08:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that many of you\Nhave or will have jobs. Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.52,0:08:46.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And work is one\Nof the most important things Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.14,0:08:52.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in finding,\Nor in building a sense of life. Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.29,0:08:57.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or the sense that "I am a useful person." Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.17,0:09:00.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That I can give other people Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.21,0:09:02.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that is valuable. Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.81,0:09:08.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And therefore, we also try\Nto make the step between -- Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.90,0:09:12.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or help these people to make the step Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.92,0:09:15.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between their [current] situation Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.44,0:09:17.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and [working] in the open market. Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.31,0:09:20.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this way, Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.25,0:09:23.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or [with] this program,\Nwe try to help them. Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.08,0:09:27.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This program [is] "Treatment, Living\Nand Working in the Community." Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.06,0:09:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would say that the most -- Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.40,0:09:41.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,visual, or the best example\Nof this program Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.88,0:09:44.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the Pan Cogito Hotel project. Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.94,0:09:49.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pan Cogito Hotel is a hotel, Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.91,0:09:52.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Dębniki, in Cracow. Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.84,0:09:54.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bałuckiego 6 -- street. Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.19,0:09:59.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this hotel is run Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.16,0:10:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mostly by people\Nthat survived a mental crisis, Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.59,0:10:06.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a mental disorder. Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.32,0:10:11.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,23 or 24 people with mental disorders\Nare working there. Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.100,0:10:14.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for many of them, Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.79,0:10:19.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is the best workplace\Nthey've had in their lives. Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.99,0:10:25.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a place [where] they don't need\Nto hide with their problems. Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.90,0:10:28.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't need to -- Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.37,0:10:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's say, to be afraid\Nthat their problems -- Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.21,0:10:40.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be mistreated, Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.96,0:10:43.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or will be the cause\Nof some kind of mistreatment. Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.77,0:10:47.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can talk with other people\Nwho are working there, Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.99,0:10:52.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they have similar experiences,\Nor similar problems. Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.15,0:10:58.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they trust or understand\Nthese people better. Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.89,0:11:02.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They work with people, Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.53,0:11:04.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they say that this work with people Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.68,0:11:06.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is very important to them, Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.15,0:11:10.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they [get] Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.09,0:11:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of positive or warm feedback Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.95,0:11:18.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the guests of this hotel\Nor the restaurant. Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.70,0:11:21.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it is not only a workplace, Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.53,0:11:24.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it is also an educational place. Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.65,0:11:29.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A place which many people\Nfrom all over Poland are coming to, Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.42,0:11:32.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and observing that it is possible Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.87,0:11:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[for] people with severe mental illnesses, Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.58,0:11:37.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with severe mental disorders, Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.39,0:11:41.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[to] cooperate and build\Na project that is successful. Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.66,0:11:46.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And these visits [are]\Nfrom all over Poland. Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.61,0:11:51.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But also, [the fact that]\Nthis idea is spreading Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.44,0:11:53.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not only in Poland, but also in Europe, Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.26,0:12:00.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is also a kind of example for people\Nfrom other cities, other places, Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.21,0:12:02.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they can create similar places. Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.21,0:12:08.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Places that will be safe, nice, Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.32,0:12:14.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, I would say, good places to work in Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.99,0:12:20.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to, let's say, be together\Nwith other people, Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.93,0:12:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with other members of society, Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.54,0:12:28.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, with other people, to be together. Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.10,0:12:30.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this aspect that -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.41,0:12:35.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These people start to feel\Nthat they are not [different], Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.50,0:12:36.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they are similar Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.73,0:12:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are together with other people. Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.97,0:12:43.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is, I think, one of the most important\Neffects of the therapy Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.32,0:12:46.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we would like to achieve. Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.92,0:12:48.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very much for your attention. Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.76,0:12:51.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)