[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.72,0:00:12.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Gabriel Orozco: "Mirror Crit"] Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.82,0:00:15.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Marian Goodman Gallery, New York City] Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.20,0:00:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Buenos dias, Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.48,0:00:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,buenos dias. Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.30,0:00:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[IN SPANISH] The knife is covered with salt. Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.76,0:00:27.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[RESUMES IN ENGLISH] "Salt on the knife." Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.13,0:00:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love Jell-O, Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.16,0:00:29.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you can see, Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.67,0:00:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I always put Jell-O Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.88,0:00:31.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in my work. Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.61,0:00:33.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[IN SPANISH] As you know, I am a young artist Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.97,0:00:36.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there are still some things that Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.37,0:00:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't resolve in relation Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.72,0:00:40.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the background or to the object. Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.58,0:00:43.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[RESUMES IN ENGLISH] So this work Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.88,0:00:48.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is called "New York Knicks Celebration Day". Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.57,0:00:50.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this was the day that Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.62,0:00:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were all celebrating. Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.76,0:00:53.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you can see the basketball Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.89,0:00:56.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,full with confetti. Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.32,0:01:02.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since that day, I was really interested in Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.59,0:01:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the idea of covering objects-- Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.50,0:01:07.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[IN SPANISH] Or covering the objects Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.17,0:01:09.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and changing their appearance Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.26,0:01:11.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in relation to a determined context. Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.42,0:01:14.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[RESUMES IN ENGLISH] --in relation to a specific\Ncontext. Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.22,0:01:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[IN SPANISH] The chair that is covered with... Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.88,0:01:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let me see because I just forgot. Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.68,0:01:25.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[This is not Gabriel Orozco's art] Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.50,0:01:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[It is Maximiliano Siñai's] Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.68,0:01:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The "Mirror Crit" was Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.97,0:01:31.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an idea I had a long ago Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.54,0:01:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I was invited to do crits Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.02,0:01:36.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in universities, post-graduate, Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.20,0:01:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and go to the studios of the students Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.56,0:01:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and talk about the work. Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.26,0:01:42.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I somehow didn't like that too much, Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.99,0:01:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do that. Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.24,0:01:46.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also I thought I was not so useful for\Nstudents Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.76,0:01:49.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do a crit: twenty minutes, Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.87,0:01:51.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one-to-one, Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.16,0:01:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and fifteen students in one day. Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.08,0:01:55.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somehow I thought about doing all crits Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.55,0:01:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,speaking myself as if I was the artist, Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.56,0:02:00.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and try to explain the work Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.20,0:02:01.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right on the spot. Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.72,0:02:02.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN, OFF CAMERA] Styrofoam? Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.76,0:02:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[OROZCO] I suppose... Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.82,0:02:05.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's styrofoam. Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.74,0:02:06.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[IN SPANISH] Let's see. Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.16,0:02:11.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Cooking Salt"... Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.75,0:02:13.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was trying not to have Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.59,0:02:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so much information-- Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.72,0:02:15.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so just to have the image Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.92,0:02:17.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and try to talk from that. Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.22,0:02:22.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[IN SPANISH] Obviously this is a t-shirt with\Nfoam-chips. Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.84,0:02:29.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hung from a barbed wire, it seems Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.30,0:02:32.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there is not a hook or anything. Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.26,0:02:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The background is interesting. Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.00,0:02:35.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They work together well like a painting. Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.98,0:02:39.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I don't know if it is doing something\Nto explain Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.64,0:02:42.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what could be the use of an object like this Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.29,0:02:46.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or what metaphoric implications it can have. Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.04,0:02:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[RESUMES IN ENGLISH] I have this image... Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.63,0:02:50.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One day I have insomnia, Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.78,0:02:53.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was dreaming with sheeps in skateboards, Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.55,0:02:54.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,crossing Fifth Avenue. Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.50,0:02:57.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was counting them all the time. Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.18,0:02:58.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was very happy, Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.11,0:02:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because finally I go to sleep Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.99,0:03:02.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,counting sheeps in skateboards. Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.04,0:03:06.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[IN SPANISH] And that was my kind of interpretation Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.82,0:03:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of those dreams that I had when I had insomnia. Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.42,0:03:13.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But finally I am more interested in keeping\Nwith Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.39,0:03:14.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the idea of objects in their context Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.85,0:03:16.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to change them, to alter them Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.60,0:03:19.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although in this case, clearly, as in others Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.54,0:03:21.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not in all of them but in many cases Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.90,0:03:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the object that covers the skateboard Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.24,0:03:27.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is completely foreign to this situation. Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.64,0:03:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[RESUMES IN ENGLISH] This object... Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.60,0:03:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This material is very exotic Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.28,0:03:32.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for that situation. Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.26,0:03:36.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there is a slightly contradictory thing\Nhere, because... Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.94,0:03:39.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that makes it more surrealistic. Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.80,0:03:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The artists were, I think, very appreciative Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.41,0:03:48.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's a different way of Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.60,0:03:50.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learning about your own work. Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.64,0:03:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And everything I didn't say Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.14,0:03:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably was useful, too. Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.82,0:03:56.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's not just what I say about the work-- Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.66,0:03:58.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not about my opinion; Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.38,0:04:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about what I miss-- Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.88,0:04:04.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I couldn't see in the images of the work. Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.48,0:04:08.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[IN SPANISH] So Max, the artist, is here. Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.86,0:04:09.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[RESUMES IN ENGLISH] Very good, Max. Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.96,0:04:10.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ALL LAUGH] Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.98,0:04:15.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MAXIMILIANO, IN SPANISH] Maybe this format\Nshould be adopted Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.52,0:04:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in art schools. Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.18,0:04:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a great way to criticize a work Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.64,0:04:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you appropriate it Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.20,0:04:23.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and talk about it as if it was your own Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.87,0:04:25.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without knowing the concept Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.43,0:04:28.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without knowing "why did you make it," right? Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.53,0:04:30.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because many people, even me Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.13,0:04:31.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I speak about my work Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.78,0:04:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I sometimes intellectualize myself Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.20,0:04:36.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while the work speaks for itself, right? Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.95,0:04:41.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[OROZCO] And if I was an older artist, Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.58,0:04:42.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will call it, like, Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.95,0:04:44.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Eclipse of Sound" Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.05,0:04:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or something like that. Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.55,0:04:46.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'm very young, Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.43,0:04:48.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the title is, Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.05,0:04:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Disco con arena" ["Disc with Sand"] Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.77,0:04:52.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ALL LAUGH]