1 00:00:00,811 --> 00:00:01,977 This is "Marketplace." 2 00:00:02,435 --> 00:00:03,537 Whoa. 3 00:00:04,303 --> 00:00:06,352 Pajamas, old dresses. 4 00:00:06,352 --> 00:00:07,777 Oh, my gosh! 5 00:00:08,345 --> 00:00:11,411 Where do all your old clothes really end up? 6 00:00:11,411 --> 00:00:14,583 Ultimately, it is going to end up in a landfill. 7 00:00:14,583 --> 00:00:17,033 We follow the trail around the world. 8 00:00:17,033 --> 00:00:18,675 ♪ (music) ♪ 9 00:00:18,675 --> 00:00:21,317 The high cost of fast fashion. 10 00:00:21,317 --> 00:00:23,041 This is your "Marketplace." 11 00:00:23,556 --> 00:00:27,074 I'm here checking out some of the biggest fashion chains in the world, 12 00:00:27,074 --> 00:00:29,272 but I'm not shopping for new clothes. 13 00:00:29,272 --> 00:00:31,792 I'm actually trying to get rid of some of my old ones. 14 00:00:31,792 --> 00:00:32,792 ♪ (music) ♪ 15 00:00:32,792 --> 00:00:38,046 So these are my all-time favorite sweatpants from college. 16 00:00:38,046 --> 00:00:41,590 These, I washed them and they totally shrunk. 17 00:00:41,590 --> 00:00:43,163 These were also super cheap. 18 00:00:43,163 --> 00:00:45,592 This is just like an old T-shirt. 19 00:00:45,592 --> 00:00:47,727 It was black at one point in its life. 20 00:00:47,727 --> 00:00:49,254 ♪ (music) ♪ 21 00:00:49,254 --> 00:00:51,454 Some retailers are on a mission. 22 00:00:51,454 --> 00:00:53,257 They want your unwanted clothes, 23 00:00:53,257 --> 00:00:56,291 and some are competing with charities for it. 24 00:00:56,291 --> 00:00:57,291 ♪ (music) ♪ 25 00:00:57,291 --> 00:01:00,470 There's a new bin in town and the message is clear: 26 00:01:00,470 --> 00:01:03,086 Don't throw old clothes in the garbage, 27 00:01:03,086 --> 00:01:04,703 dump them here. 28 00:01:04,703 --> 00:01:06,900 They'll take curtains, they'll take jeans. 29 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:08,967 They'll even take your old underwear. 30 00:01:08,967 --> 00:01:10,826 ♪ (music) ♪ 31 00:01:10,826 --> 00:01:15,238 Drop off old clothes and get a coupon to save money when you buy new ones. 32 00:01:16,358 --> 00:01:18,568 But before I part with my old clothes, 33 00:01:18,568 --> 00:01:20,575 I've got a few more questions. 34 00:01:20,575 --> 00:01:23,516 These bins sure make us all feel good. 35 00:01:23,516 --> 00:01:26,482 But are they doing as much good as we think? 36 00:01:28,221 --> 00:01:29,322 Look at this! 37 00:01:29,322 --> 00:01:30,923 Look at these bags! 38 00:01:31,497 --> 00:01:33,883 Most of us are like the Bretons and the Palmas 39 00:01:33,883 --> 00:01:35,457 in Markham, Ontario. 40 00:01:35,457 --> 00:01:38,365 Somehow, we end up with too many clothes. 41 00:01:38,365 --> 00:01:39,540 Emily, what's in here? 42 00:01:39,540 --> 00:01:42,332 Old clothes that are too small for me. 43 00:01:42,332 --> 00:01:44,376 They purge a few times a year, 44 00:01:44,376 --> 00:01:46,686 normally dropping their haul in a charity bin. 45 00:01:47,289 --> 00:01:48,427 Whoa! 46 00:01:48,427 --> 00:01:50,610 Stuff like these have holes in them. 47 00:01:50,610 --> 00:01:52,845 This isn't just a pile of clothes. 48 00:01:52,845 --> 00:01:55,808 It's now a pile of textile waste. 49 00:01:55,808 --> 00:02:00,437 And we want to show the kids just how big the problem really is. 50 00:02:00,437 --> 00:02:02,944 ♪ (music) ♪ 51 00:02:03,498 --> 00:02:05,235 Are you guys ready to go inside 52 00:02:05,235 --> 00:02:07,965 and see what happens to all those clothes that you donate? 53 00:02:07,965 --> 00:02:09,865 - Yes. - All right. Let's go inside. 54 00:02:09,865 --> 00:02:11,720 ♪ (music) ♪ 55 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,830 Go on in, take a look. 56 00:02:14,649 --> 00:02:16,305 Whoa! 57 00:02:17,045 --> 00:02:21,344 ♪ (music) ♪ 58 00:02:21,344 --> 00:02:24,206 - Clothes! Clothes! - That's clothes. 59 00:02:24,206 --> 00:02:26,195 - Clothes! - Do you see that? 60 00:02:26,195 --> 00:02:28,646 - Oh, my gosh. - Clothes! 61 00:02:29,481 --> 00:02:31,688 That's a crazy pile. 62 00:02:31,688 --> 00:02:36,255 And get this, all of this is what's leftover, 63 00:02:36,255 --> 00:02:38,346 the stuff no one wants. 64 00:02:38,346 --> 00:02:41,070 The stuff that thrift stores can't sell. 65 00:02:41,070 --> 00:02:43,796 All those clothes you guys piled up yesterday, 66 00:02:43,796 --> 00:02:45,671 this is where it can end up. 67 00:02:45,671 --> 00:02:47,311 It's a lot of clothes. 68 00:02:47,311 --> 00:02:49,212 It wasn't what I was expecting to see. 69 00:02:49,935 --> 00:02:51,265 One warehouse, 70 00:02:51,265 --> 00:02:56,065 more than 200,000 pounds of textile waste each week. 71 00:02:56,065 --> 00:02:59,608 And that's just from in and around Toronto. 72 00:03:00,743 --> 00:03:03,076 Across the country, we've got nine other locations 73 00:03:03,076 --> 00:03:04,190 similar to this one. 74 00:03:04,190 --> 00:03:07,661 The last year or two years, probably a 15 to 20% growth 75 00:03:07,661 --> 00:03:10,446 in the overall volume of textiles that are coming in. 76 00:03:10,446 --> 00:03:14,624 Tonny Colyn is the head of donations for Salvation Army Canada. 77 00:03:14,624 --> 00:03:19,028 So, how do you think fast fashion has impacted... this? 78 00:03:19,028 --> 00:03:20,393 All of this. 79 00:03:20,393 --> 00:03:22,138 It's had a massive effect. 80 00:03:22,138 --> 00:03:24,339 And all of that stuff has to go somewhere. 81 00:03:24,339 --> 00:03:26,272 The dads of these two families, 82 00:03:26,272 --> 00:03:30,064 Michael Palma and Norman Breton. can't believe it. 83 00:03:30,064 --> 00:03:34,119 Their coats or boots might be okay, but they want something new. 84 00:03:34,591 --> 00:03:36,959 If they need or if they want, it's a big question. 85 00:03:36,959 --> 00:03:39,529 A lot of times they want stuff but they don't need it. 86 00:03:39,529 --> 00:03:40,720 ♪ (music) ♪ 87 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:45,525 Still, we can't seem to get our hands on fast fashion fast enough. 88 00:03:45,525 --> 00:03:48,001 Cheap, trendy, disposable clothes. 89 00:03:48,001 --> 00:03:50,591 And we're even bragging about it. 90 00:03:50,591 --> 00:03:52,860 And I ended up with a bag full of clothes. 91 00:03:52,860 --> 00:03:57,520 We're all buying too much, 400% more, since the 1980's. 92 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,314 The quality isn't all that great, but the prices are fantastic. 93 00:04:01,314 --> 00:04:04,994 But not all of our old clothes make it to the donation bin. 94 00:04:04,994 --> 00:04:09,299 Most of it, 85%, ends up in landfill. 95 00:04:10,791 --> 00:04:16,358 In North America, it's estimated to be at least 25 billion pounds a year. 96 00:04:17,318 --> 00:04:20,178 In Canada alone, imagine a mountain 97 00:04:20,178 --> 00:04:24,343 three times the size of Toronto's Rogers Centre Stadium 98 00:04:24,883 --> 00:04:27,215 Where they don't biodegrade easily 99 00:04:27,215 --> 00:04:30,888 because many are made with fabrics that can't be broken down, 100 00:04:32,312 --> 00:04:36,109 releasing chemicals and dyes into our rivers, soil. 101 00:04:36,109 --> 00:04:37,109 ♪ (music) ♪ 102 00:04:37,109 --> 00:04:41,781 That's part of the reason why fashion is one of the world's top polluters. 103 00:04:42,939 --> 00:04:45,478 ♪ (rock music) ♪ 104 00:04:45,478 --> 00:04:47,144 So in the last few years, 105 00:04:47,144 --> 00:04:49,352 some of the biggest names in the business, 106 00:04:49,352 --> 00:04:52,666 Levi's, Nike, Adidas, Zara, 107 00:04:52,666 --> 00:04:55,076 have started recycling programs. 108 00:04:55,076 --> 00:04:58,014 All retailers with donation bins in stores 109 00:04:58,014 --> 00:05:00,352 calling out for your old garments. 110 00:05:00,352 --> 00:05:03,008 But none go as far as H&M. 111 00:05:03,008 --> 00:05:06,675 They will take anything: jeans, curtains, even underwear. 112 00:05:06,675 --> 00:05:08,084 Just check out their ads. 113 00:05:08,874 --> 00:05:10,822 The thing that you never wore. 114 00:05:10,822 --> 00:05:12,877 This and this and that. 115 00:05:13,512 --> 00:05:16,128 The thing with the color that wasn't your color. 116 00:05:16,128 --> 00:05:17,252 Bring it on. 117 00:05:17,252 --> 00:05:20,150 This is one of H&M's latest ad campaigns. 118 00:05:21,112 --> 00:05:23,973 Cut your jeans into pieces and make new jeans out of them. 119 00:05:24,980 --> 00:05:28,886 "Cut your jeans into pieces and make new jeans out of them." 120 00:05:28,886 --> 00:05:32,522 With your help,we literally turn your old clothes into new garments. 121 00:05:33,511 --> 00:05:37,167 "We literally turn your old clothes into new garments." 122 00:05:37,881 --> 00:05:40,327 Garments in the worst condition can be transformed 123 00:05:40,327 --> 00:05:44,561 into insulation material or textile fibers woven into cloth, 124 00:05:44,561 --> 00:05:48,684 reborn as fashionable new clothes of every conceivable kind. 125 00:05:49,471 --> 00:05:51,710 What do you think about recycling clothes? 126 00:05:51,710 --> 00:05:54,324 I think that's amazing. That's a great plan. 127 00:05:54,324 --> 00:05:56,150 We're talking about recycling clothes. 128 00:05:56,150 --> 00:05:58,771 What does that make you think is happening to the stuff? 129 00:05:58,771 --> 00:06:02,512 I think maybe it's, like, refurbish the clothes 130 00:06:02,512 --> 00:06:05,163 and get them to look new again. 131 00:06:05,163 --> 00:06:07,399 What do you think happens to that stuff? 132 00:06:07,399 --> 00:06:10,836 Doesn't it get recycled to make new clothes from the old clothes? 133 00:06:10,836 --> 00:06:13,748 Let's shred it into fibers and stitch it into something new 134 00:06:13,748 --> 00:06:17,468 The only thing we will not do is waste it. 135 00:06:17,468 --> 00:06:19,186 Bold recycling claims. 136 00:06:19,186 --> 00:06:22,290 They sound great, but are they really? 137 00:06:23,439 --> 00:06:27,256 (Flight attendant over intercom) 138 00:06:27,256 --> 00:06:30,489 To try to find out, we head to New York City, 139 00:06:30,489 --> 00:06:32,591 one of the fashion capitals of the world... 140 00:06:32,591 --> 00:06:34,067 ♪ (music) ♪ 141 00:06:34,067 --> 00:06:36,482 With jackets, you always have to check the lining. 142 00:06:37,063 --> 00:06:40,970 ...To meet Elizabeth Cline, an anti-fast fashion crusader. 143 00:06:40,970 --> 00:06:44,549 Because of what she knows, she only wears used clothes. 144 00:06:44,549 --> 00:06:47,224 It's made her a pro at assessing cast-offs. 145 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:53,307 On a coat, the first thing you would do is make sure the zippers work. 146 00:06:53,307 --> 00:06:56,967 Especially fast fashion, like, a lot of the fasteners will just break 147 00:06:57,485 --> 00:06:58,951 and chip really quickly. 148 00:06:58,951 --> 00:07:01,297 We show her H&M's marketing 149 00:07:01,297 --> 00:07:05,698 and ask her what she thinks about making new clothes out of your old ones. 150 00:07:05,698 --> 00:07:08,447 Shred it into fibers and stitch it into something new. 151 00:07:09,218 --> 00:07:14,195 The reality is that currently, only about 1% of clothing is actually recycled 152 00:07:14,195 --> 00:07:16,469 in the very literal sense of the word. 153 00:07:16,469 --> 00:07:18,470 - 1%? - 1%. 154 00:07:18,470 --> 00:07:20,373 1%... is recycled? 155 00:07:21,053 --> 00:07:24,458 If you're talking about recycling in terms of taking fibers 156 00:07:24,458 --> 00:07:25,615 and breaking them down 157 00:07:25,615 --> 00:07:28,661 and turning them back into new fibers, it's 1%. 158 00:07:28,661 --> 00:07:31,450 Why is it so hard to just take my old shirt 159 00:07:31,450 --> 00:07:32,887 and turn it into a new one? 160 00:07:32,887 --> 00:07:34,384 Why can't you just do that? 161 00:07:34,388 --> 00:07:36,887 A lot of our clothes are made out of blended fibers, 162 00:07:36,887 --> 00:07:41,927 so maybe this is acrylic and wool and cotton mixed together, 163 00:07:41,927 --> 00:07:45,440 maybe my tights are cotton and elastane. 164 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,524 That makes it very difficult to recycle. 165 00:07:47,524 --> 00:07:51,637 The other challenge is that when you recycle cotton and wool, 166 00:07:51,637 --> 00:07:56,091 it diminishes the quality of that material, 167 00:07:56,091 --> 00:08:00,873 so it weakens the cotton and wool strand and gives you a lesser product. 168 00:08:00,873 --> 00:08:05,130 Bottom line, the technology just isn't there yet. 169 00:08:05,130 --> 00:08:08,454 It's way too expensive and too time consuming 170 00:08:08,454 --> 00:08:10,701 to make new clothes from old ones. 171 00:08:10,701 --> 00:08:13,417 There's also a more skeptical side of me 172 00:08:13,417 --> 00:08:17,723 that knows that the reason why H&M is focusing on textile recycling 173 00:08:17,723 --> 00:08:20,412 is because it's an easy sustainability win for them. 174 00:08:20,412 --> 00:08:23,802 It doesn't involve them changing their production model at all 175 00:08:23,802 --> 00:08:27,188 to collect clothes and make sure that they get a second life. 176 00:08:27,637 --> 00:08:30,798 It doesn't make the fast fashion system any more sustainable. 177 00:08:30,798 --> 00:08:33,087 ♪ (music) ♪ 178 00:08:33,087 --> 00:08:35,972 Experts agree fast fashion needs to change 179 00:08:35,972 --> 00:08:38,197 if we really want to make a difference. 180 00:08:38,817 --> 00:08:41,090 Remember when fashion had four seasons, 181 00:08:41,090 --> 00:08:43,773 winter, spring, summer and fall? 182 00:08:43,773 --> 00:08:46,818 Now, the trends change almost every day. 183 00:08:47,292 --> 00:08:50,370 Here's how this Swedish clothing giant CEO explains it. 184 00:08:50,928 --> 00:08:54,179 We have new garments coming into the stores almost every day. 185 00:08:54,179 --> 00:08:57,213 So if you go to an H&M store today and come back two days later, 186 00:08:57,213 --> 00:08:59,579 you will always find something new. 187 00:09:00,020 --> 00:09:02,899 H&M salespeople tell us new clothes come in 188 00:09:02,899 --> 00:09:06,524 every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday. 189 00:09:06,524 --> 00:09:09,691 That works out to half a billion products a year. 190 00:09:10,376 --> 00:09:13,832 And it's why H&M's recycling campaign 191 00:09:13,832 --> 00:09:16,476 makes Claudia Marsales so mad. 192 00:09:19,198 --> 00:09:23,033 It really is a form of greenwashing. 193 00:09:23,033 --> 00:09:25,858 She's the head of Markham, Ontario's waste programs. 194 00:09:25,858 --> 00:09:30,602 One of the few Canadian cities to actually ban textiles from landfills. 195 00:09:30,602 --> 00:09:33,596 In order for the fast fashion outlets 196 00:09:33,596 --> 00:09:36,348 to recycle what they make, 197 00:09:36,348 --> 00:09:40,512 it would take 12 years to recycle what they sell in 48 hours. 198 00:09:40,512 --> 00:09:41,675 Like it's just... 199 00:09:41,675 --> 00:09:45,904 So that sort of tells me it's really more about foot traffic, marketing, 200 00:09:45,904 --> 00:09:50,731 greenwashing, than about really addressing the broken business model 201 00:09:50,731 --> 00:09:52,056 of fast fashion. 202 00:09:52,056 --> 00:09:56,011 We asked H&M to come on camera and talk about their recycling program. 203 00:09:56,011 --> 00:09:57,956 They declined, assuring us 204 00:09:57,956 --> 00:10:01,033 they don't want to encourage a throwaway attitude. 205 00:10:01,033 --> 00:10:04,403 Their clothes are good quality and made to last. 206 00:10:04,403 --> 00:10:07,486 And they are working towards a business model where, 207 00:10:07,486 --> 00:10:10,576 eventually, all their clothes can be recycled. 208 00:10:10,576 --> 00:10:12,478 At least they're trying? 209 00:10:14,502 --> 00:10:17,237 Yes, well, but they're a cause of the problem. 210 00:10:17,237 --> 00:10:21,250 So, fast fashion retailers, 211 00:10:21,250 --> 00:10:23,537 their business model is the problem. 212 00:10:23,537 --> 00:10:26,658 They're making too much, they're selling it too cheap. 213 00:10:26,658 --> 00:10:28,760 It's disposable clothing. 214 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,704 Doing a bit of back-end recycling and a bit of commercials 215 00:10:32,704 --> 00:10:34,706 really doesn't address that issue. 216 00:10:34,706 --> 00:10:36,950 ♪ (music) ♪ 217 00:10:36,950 --> 00:10:41,486 And ask some customers one of the things they love most about the program? 218 00:10:41,486 --> 00:10:42,945 It's the discount. 219 00:10:42,945 --> 00:10:45,275 That incentive to keep buying. 220 00:10:45,275 --> 00:10:47,842 I put it in the bin and then they give me the discount. 221 00:10:47,842 --> 00:10:49,420 I saw it and it's like, oh, snap. 222 00:10:49,420 --> 00:10:51,267 You know, it's a way to, like, 223 00:10:51,267 --> 00:10:53,562 you know, help me and help them at the same time. 224 00:10:53,562 --> 00:10:56,450 What do you mean when you say help you and help someone else? 225 00:10:56,450 --> 00:10:58,742 Help me by, you know, saving money 226 00:10:58,742 --> 00:11:01,270 and help them by providing free clothing for them. 227 00:11:01,863 --> 00:11:05,741 We just chuck it in the bin and they did offer, like, a $5 discount. 228 00:11:06,232 --> 00:11:08,767 H&M might be collecting your old clothes. 229 00:11:08,767 --> 00:11:11,942 More than 55,000 tonnes so far, 230 00:11:11,942 --> 00:11:15,639 but if they're barely making new clothes from your donations, 231 00:11:15,639 --> 00:11:17,458 where do they all go? 232 00:11:17,458 --> 00:11:19,140 These shoppers have a theory. 233 00:11:19,140 --> 00:11:20,140 ♪ (music) ♪ 234 00:11:20,140 --> 00:11:22,848 Where do you think those clothes go that you put in H&M? 235 00:11:23,488 --> 00:11:25,708 They probably go to people who need them, 236 00:11:25,708 --> 00:11:27,283 probably like shelters 237 00:11:27,283 --> 00:11:29,243 or other places that use the clothes. 238 00:11:29,243 --> 00:11:33,225 Probably give it for free, or something, to the people that need it. 239 00:11:33,225 --> 00:11:34,895 Where do you think that stuff goes? 240 00:11:34,895 --> 00:11:38,324 - What do you think happens to it? - Hopefully to just some needy people. 241 00:11:39,214 --> 00:11:40,898 Who still want to be fashionable. 242 00:11:40,898 --> 00:11:44,375 Many of us think our old clothes are given to the less fortunate. 243 00:11:44,375 --> 00:11:45,448 Wrong. 244 00:11:45,448 --> 00:11:47,417 And maybe you're telling yourself that 245 00:11:47,417 --> 00:11:49,673 to feel better about buying more, too. 246 00:11:49,673 --> 00:11:51,997 Well, Cline coined a term for this. 247 00:11:51,997 --> 00:11:54,860 ♪ (music) ♪ 248 00:11:54,860 --> 00:11:56,721 What's the clothing deficit myth? 249 00:11:56,721 --> 00:12:01,464 (chuckle) So, the clothing deficit myth is the idea 250 00:12:01,464 --> 00:12:04,111 that when we give clothes to charity, 251 00:12:04,111 --> 00:12:08,930 they're going to go to someone locally in our community in need. 252 00:12:09,550 --> 00:12:11,405 But in the era of fast fashion, 253 00:12:12,100 --> 00:12:16,091 there's far more unwanted clothes than there are people in need. 254 00:12:16,091 --> 00:12:17,905 ♪ (music) ♪ 255 00:12:17,905 --> 00:12:20,913 The Salvation Army knows all about that. 256 00:12:20,913 --> 00:12:25,874 Remember, this is all the stuff they can't sell at their stores. 257 00:12:25,874 --> 00:12:28,904 So what do they do with all these leftovers? 258 00:12:28,904 --> 00:12:31,204 They sell it to a middle man. 259 00:12:31,735 --> 00:12:36,083 And the retailers do the same thing with all your donations too. 260 00:12:36,083 --> 00:12:41,064 In Canada, H&M gives the money it makes off your donations to UNICEF. 261 00:12:41,607 --> 00:12:42,774 Here's the thing. 262 00:12:42,774 --> 00:12:44,684 All textiles are worth money. 263 00:12:45,217 --> 00:12:48,759 The stuff that's in really rough shape is shredded for painter's cloths 264 00:12:48,763 --> 00:12:51,849 or insulation, for example, then sold. 265 00:12:51,849 --> 00:12:56,561 But the majority of all donated clothes are shipped overseas 266 00:12:56,561 --> 00:12:59,590 to developing countries and they're sold there, too. 267 00:12:59,945 --> 00:13:02,468 Not donated or given to needy people. 268 00:13:02,468 --> 00:13:06,008 And if you think that means it's not going to end up in landfills, 269 00:13:06,448 --> 00:13:07,516 think again. 270 00:13:09,966 --> 00:13:14,066 We follow the trail of your old T-shirts around the world. 271 00:13:14,366 --> 00:13:16,363 The black stripes here are from Canada. 272 00:13:16,729 --> 00:13:19,030 You can't afford to miss this trip. 273 00:13:19,664 --> 00:13:21,613 This is your "Marketplace." 274 00:13:25,437 --> 00:13:27,472 The real deal on your "Marketplace." 275 00:13:31,377 --> 00:13:32,944 We love our clothes. 276 00:13:32,944 --> 00:13:36,543 Now so cheap, you can make a different statement every day. 277 00:13:36,882 --> 00:13:38,684 These things are $3? 278 00:13:39,427 --> 00:13:40,488 $5. 279 00:13:40,953 --> 00:13:43,199 But they come with a huge cost. 280 00:13:43,489 --> 00:13:46,075 Part of the reason why some fast fashion chains, 281 00:13:46,075 --> 00:13:49,895 like H&M, say they've got recycling programs like this. 282 00:13:50,182 --> 00:13:53,056 The Earth simply cannot bear so many clothes 283 00:13:53,056 --> 00:13:54,866 ending their lives as waste. 284 00:13:54,866 --> 00:13:57,108 H&M has a far better answer. 285 00:13:57,636 --> 00:14:03,276 But we learnt less than 1% of the world's used clothes are turned into new ones. 286 00:14:03,763 --> 00:14:07,855 The majority of those donations from retailer and charity bins 287 00:14:07,855 --> 00:14:10,315 are bailed and sold overseas. 288 00:14:17,856 --> 00:14:20,036 This is Nairobi, Kenya. 289 00:14:20,036 --> 00:14:24,663 The country at the top of the list when it comes to buying your old clothes. 290 00:14:25,017 --> 00:14:27,733 Kenya is one of Canada's best customers. 291 00:14:27,733 --> 00:14:33,149 In a given year, they buy more than $20 million worth of our old clothes 292 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:37,999 All the rest with the black stripes here are from Canada. 293 00:14:37,999 --> 00:14:39,945 These are a variety of kids clothing. 294 00:14:40,225 --> 00:14:41,680 This one is a jacket. 295 00:14:42,073 --> 00:14:43,248 Ladies T-shirts. 296 00:14:43,850 --> 00:14:46,318 Maina Andrew is a used clothing importer. 297 00:14:46,318 --> 00:14:51,224 People from Canada and America, they are actually a bit huge. 298 00:14:51,656 --> 00:14:53,659 Scenes like this aren't isolated. 299 00:14:53,659 --> 00:14:57,607 You'll see them all over Africa, South and Central America. 300 00:14:57,963 --> 00:15:01,433 A lot of this is stuff Canadians donated for free, 301 00:15:02,067 --> 00:15:06,204 only for it to be sold here for profit to vendors 302 00:15:06,204 --> 00:15:10,676 like Alice Nyansarora Anunda, who brings it to her local market. 303 00:15:10,863 --> 00:15:13,314 They call the clothes, "Mitumba." 304 00:15:15,647 --> 00:15:21,520 No, that one, it's just a nickname we gave it, 305 00:15:21,974 --> 00:15:24,714 "Mitumba" means, "Old" in our culture. 306 00:15:24,957 --> 00:15:27,993 Nearly 13,000 kilometres away. 307 00:15:27,993 --> 00:15:30,763 But take a closer look and there they are. 308 00:15:30,763 --> 00:15:32,730 The names you know. 309 00:15:32,730 --> 00:15:36,234 AEO, Zara, Adidas, H&M. 310 00:15:36,234 --> 00:15:41,929 The way we open bails, we know their plans where there's new clothes, 311 00:15:41,929 --> 00:15:44,951 especially those which come from Canada. 312 00:15:45,410 --> 00:15:49,691 But Andrew notices many of the clothes are low quality, tough to sell. 313 00:15:50,015 --> 00:15:51,149 We just dump them. 314 00:15:51,149 --> 00:15:53,801 If people don't buy them, we just dump them. 315 00:16:02,828 --> 00:16:06,973 They do go in the piles of garbage, very many of them. 316 00:16:09,734 --> 00:16:13,618 He says this happens regularly right behind the market, 317 00:16:13,618 --> 00:16:16,835 discarding and burning clothes Canadians don't want 318 00:16:16,835 --> 00:16:18,632 and neither do Kenyans. 319 00:16:19,611 --> 00:16:22,381 Sometimes they pack even very old items. 320 00:16:22,381 --> 00:16:25,050 You can even pack items that are not even good, 321 00:16:25,822 --> 00:16:29,487 and they end up dumping them in Africa or in Kenya. 322 00:16:36,461 --> 00:16:40,330 Yeah, we burn them and it is a lost work because we have already bought them. 323 00:16:44,036 --> 00:16:46,363 All those popular brands in the crowded markets, 324 00:16:46,504 --> 00:16:48,834 Elizabeth Cline has seen them, too. 325 00:16:49,124 --> 00:16:50,134 She's been to Kenya. 326 00:16:50,324 --> 00:16:52,909 There are a lot of different companies around the world 327 00:16:52,909 --> 00:16:56,220 that are working on textile recycling in the truest sense of the word, 328 00:16:56,220 --> 00:16:58,780 but it's really in the very early stages. 329 00:16:58,780 --> 00:17:01,852 Whether it stays in the United States or if it ends up in Africa, 330 00:17:01,852 --> 00:17:04,540 ultimately it is going to end up in the landfill. 331 00:17:04,848 --> 00:17:08,324 We tell H&M about this Kenyan market and all the fires. 332 00:17:08,576 --> 00:17:10,659 They say its middle man I:CO, 333 00:17:10,659 --> 00:17:13,319 which handles pickup and distribution of their bins, 334 00:17:13,319 --> 00:17:14,933 has really high standards. 335 00:17:14,933 --> 00:17:18,354 But they are still working on building a better tracking system 336 00:17:18,354 --> 00:17:20,338 so this doesn't keep happening. 337 00:17:20,738 --> 00:17:23,141 Dumping is always cheaper. 338 00:17:23,141 --> 00:17:25,176 It's always the cheaper option. 339 00:17:25,176 --> 00:17:26,610 There's only one solution. 340 00:17:26,611 --> 00:17:30,381 The producer of the clothing is responsible cradle to grave. 341 00:17:30,381 --> 00:17:33,218 So they make the T-shirt, they sell the T-shirt, 342 00:17:33,218 --> 00:17:37,455 the T-shirt comes back, they have to recycle that T-shirt. 343 00:17:37,455 --> 00:17:39,691 They can't put it in a third world country. 344 00:17:40,032 --> 00:17:43,198 As far as South Africa is concerned, we banned secondhand clothing. 345 00:17:43,198 --> 00:17:46,728 When a country survives on secondhand things, 346 00:17:46,728 --> 00:17:47,803 secondhand clothes, 347 00:17:47,803 --> 00:17:50,138 it means there's something wrong with that system. 348 00:17:50,338 --> 00:17:52,987 Threatening the survival of the local textiles industry. 349 00:17:52,987 --> 00:17:55,821 And now many of those countries are fighting back. 350 00:17:55,907 --> 00:17:59,144 East African countries sent the world a message recently. 351 00:17:59,144 --> 00:18:02,803 They don't want our hand-me-downs and tried to ban them. 352 00:18:02,847 --> 00:18:06,255 Their government said it was destroying their own textile market. 353 00:18:06,385 --> 00:18:08,586 Secondhand clothes are quite cheap 354 00:18:08,592 --> 00:18:12,929 and any manufactured textile would not be able to compete with them. 355 00:18:15,274 --> 00:18:17,395 And despite everything you just watched, 356 00:18:17,395 --> 00:18:21,704 Cline says H&M group is a frontrunner in sustainability efforts. 357 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,035 Compared to other brands, they are leaders. 358 00:18:24,813 --> 00:18:28,004 I don't know what that says about the rest of the fashion industry, 359 00:18:28,004 --> 00:18:30,539 that a fast fashion chain is at the top of that list. 360 00:18:30,675 --> 00:18:33,813 Just know that your textile waste is an environmental issue. 361 00:18:34,486 --> 00:18:38,528 Textile waste in landfills is one of the fastest growing categories of waste 362 00:18:38,528 --> 00:18:41,744 and it's such an easy thing to do something about. 363 00:18:43,144 --> 00:18:46,224 So what should you do with all your old clothes? 364 00:18:46,224 --> 00:18:48,372 The answers, coming right up. 365 00:18:50,362 --> 00:18:52,570 Do you have a story you want us to investigate? 366 00:18:52,797 --> 00:18:56,507 Write to us: Marketplace@cbc.ca. 367 00:18:59,804 --> 00:19:02,564 The high cost of fashion on your "Marketplace." 368 00:19:02,957 --> 00:19:04,939 Do you ever impulse buy? Absolutely. 369 00:19:04,939 --> 00:19:08,197 What was the last thing you bought that now you see, and you're like: 370 00:19:08,197 --> 00:19:09,445 "What was I thinking?" 371 00:19:09,445 --> 00:19:10,646 Clothing always. 372 00:19:10,746 --> 00:19:14,109 On average, we buy almost 70 clothing items every year. 373 00:19:14,286 --> 00:19:17,188 That means we're buying new clothes every week. 374 00:19:18,058 --> 00:19:19,120 What did you buy? 375 00:19:19,458 --> 00:19:20,792 A lot of stuff. 376 00:19:20,792 --> 00:19:21,960 Did you need anything? 377 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:22,981 No. 378 00:19:23,021 --> 00:19:25,321 Just looking around and you bought a few things. 379 00:19:25,321 --> 00:19:29,570 Yes, I bought lots of things: leggings, shirts, socks, underwear. 380 00:19:30,083 --> 00:19:33,339 Most of these styles will end up trashed in landfills. 381 00:19:33,504 --> 00:19:38,486 Fast fashion is a big part of the problem, but we don't have to buy in. 382 00:19:38,676 --> 00:19:42,887 So this is 50% polyester, 50% cotton. 383 00:19:42,887 --> 00:19:45,910 It's really hard to separate those fibers and make new stuff. 384 00:19:45,910 --> 00:19:46,995 You bet. 385 00:19:46,995 --> 00:19:50,635 Do you know how many litres of water goes into making a single pair of jeans? 386 00:19:50,635 --> 00:19:51,939 Almost 4,000 litres. 387 00:19:51,939 --> 00:19:53,025 Wow. Whoo. 388 00:19:53,025 --> 00:19:54,325 That's crazy. 389 00:19:57,162 --> 00:19:58,285 And sometimes, 390 00:19:58,285 --> 00:20:00,965 just seeing the waste makes a difference. 391 00:20:00,965 --> 00:20:03,802 These families swear they'll change their ways. 392 00:20:03,802 --> 00:20:06,619 They want to look at the cute things, things that look good, 393 00:20:06,619 --> 00:20:08,370 but not necessarily good quality. 394 00:20:08,370 --> 00:20:11,980 We have to... we try to teach them to use their stuff until it's worn out. 395 00:20:13,715 --> 00:20:15,478 Speaking of waste and consumption, 396 00:20:15,595 --> 00:20:18,183 I've still got my bag of clothes to get rid of. 397 00:20:18,183 --> 00:20:22,909 I don't really know where the best place is to go with my stuff. 398 00:20:23,108 --> 00:20:25,052 And I think people at home who see this 399 00:20:25,052 --> 00:20:27,138 are probably going to have the same question 400 00:20:27,235 --> 00:20:31,663 Some people like to swap the clothes, so that's the first line of defence. 401 00:20:31,663 --> 00:20:33,352 If it's in really good condition, 402 00:20:33,352 --> 00:20:35,412 you can take them to a consignment store. 403 00:20:35,412 --> 00:20:39,500 You can also donate to a reputable charity. 404 00:20:39,637 --> 00:20:44,448 Do your research on who you're giving your clothing to. 405 00:20:45,498 --> 00:20:46,871 Don't buy so much. 406 00:20:47,222 --> 00:20:50,321 So bottom line, when it comes to your used clothing, 407 00:20:50,321 --> 00:20:51,378 don't throw it away, 408 00:20:51,378 --> 00:20:53,861 try and give it to somebody who can actually use it. 409 00:20:53,861 --> 00:20:56,254 Hey, girls, does anybody need a T-shirt? 410 00:20:56,512 --> 00:20:57,889 No, you sure? 411 00:20:57,889 --> 00:20:59,224 Black dress pants? 412 00:20:59,224 --> 00:21:00,726 Hardly ever wore them. 413 00:21:00,726 --> 00:21:01,793 This is cool, right? 414 00:21:01,793 --> 00:21:02,994 Zipper in the back. 415 00:21:02,994 --> 00:21:04,065 I think I'm okay. 416 00:21:04,065 --> 00:21:06,707 Any chance you want to return yours and take these ones? 417 00:21:06,707 --> 00:21:07,728 No, thank you. 418 00:21:07,728 --> 00:21:09,939 They're a size small. I wore them, like, twice. 419 00:21:09,939 --> 00:21:11,059 No, thank you. No? No. 420 00:21:11,249 --> 00:21:13,350 Do any of you need a pair of pajama pants 421 00:21:13,350 --> 00:21:15,213 or know someone who might want these? 422 00:21:16,273 --> 00:21:17,388 I'll take them. T-shirt? 423 00:21:17,388 --> 00:21:18,570 I'll take them. 424 00:21:18,570 --> 00:21:20,485 Any chance you want a pair of Levi's? 425 00:21:20,585 --> 00:21:22,531 Sure, size 6, me. 426 00:21:22,981 --> 00:21:24,155 Awesome! Awesome. 427 00:21:24,165 --> 00:21:26,697 There you go and they won't go to a landfill this way. 428 00:21:26,697 --> 00:21:27,706 No. 429 00:21:28,196 --> 00:21:31,898 Maybe there is no perfect solution to this complicated problem. 430 00:21:31,898 --> 00:21:34,818 But if there's something I've learned throughout this process, 431 00:21:34,818 --> 00:21:36,861 it's that there is something I can do. 432 00:21:36,861 --> 00:21:39,784 And, for me, that will mean buying less. 433 00:21:43,834 --> 00:21:47,139 A special, year long Marketplace investigation. 434 00:21:47,139 --> 00:21:50,316 We go undercover, inside nursing homes. 435 00:21:50,708 --> 00:21:53,311 I was shouting my head off and they didn't come in. 436 00:21:53,311 --> 00:21:55,514 Families fighting for better care. 437 00:21:55,514 --> 00:21:58,683 Die, die you bitch. You need to die now. 438 00:21:58,683 --> 00:21:59,918 My poor mother. 439 00:21:59,918 --> 00:22:02,887 Has long term care reached a crisis point? 440 00:22:02,887 --> 00:22:04,789 Oh, we're way past that. 441 00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:07,125 I think we've been in crisis for years. 442 00:22:07,125 --> 00:22:09,194 If this happened in a day care, 443 00:22:09,194 --> 00:22:11,538 that day care would be shut down in five minutes. 444 00:22:11,538 --> 00:22:13,419 How to fight for better care, 445 00:22:13,898 --> 00:22:15,360 On the next Marketplace.