WEBVTT 00:00:00.811 --> 00:00:01.977 This is "Marketplace." 00:00:02.435 --> 00:00:03.537 Whoa. 00:00:04.303 --> 00:00:06.352 Pajamas, old dresses. 00:00:06.352 --> 00:00:07.777 Oh, my gosh! 00:00:08.345 --> 00:00:11.411 Where do all your old clothes really end up? 00:00:11.411 --> 00:00:14.583 Ultimately, it is going to end up in a landfill. 00:00:14.583 --> 00:00:17.033 We follow the trail around the world. 00:00:17.033 --> 00:00:18.675 ♪ (music) ♪ 00:00:18.675 --> 00:00:21.317 The high cost of fast fashion. 00:00:21.317 --> 00:00:23.041 This is your "Marketplace." 00:00:23.556 --> 00:00:27.074 I'm here checking out some of the biggest fashion chains in the world, 00:00:27.074 --> 00:00:29.272 but I'm not shopping for new clothes. 00:00:29.272 --> 00:00:31.792 I'm actually trying to get rid of some of my old ones. 00:00:31.792 --> 00:00:32.792 ♪ (music) ♪ 00:00:32.792 --> 00:00:38.046 So these are my all-time favorite sweatpants from college. 00:00:38.046 --> 00:00:41.590 These, I washed them and they totally shrunk. 00:00:41.590 --> 00:00:43.163 These were also super cheap. 00:00:43.163 --> 00:00:45.592 This is just like an old T-shirt. 00:00:45.592 --> 00:00:47.727 It was black at one point in its life. 00:00:47.727 --> 00:00:49.254 ♪ (music) ♪ 00:00:49.254 --> 00:00:51.454 Some retailers are on a mission. 00:00:51.454 --> 00:00:53.257 They want your unwanted clothes, 00:00:53.257 --> 00:00:56.291 and some are competing with charities for it. 00:00:56.291 --> 00:00:57.291 ♪ (music) ♪ 00:00:57.291 --> 00:01:00.470 There's a new bin in town and the message is clear: 00:01:00.470 --> 00:01:03.086 Don't throw old clothes in the garbage, 00:01:03.086 --> 00:01:04.703 dump them here. 00:01:04.703 --> 00:01:06.900 They'll take curtains, they'll take jeans. 00:01:06.900 --> 00:01:08.967 They'll even take your old underwear. 00:01:08.967 --> 00:01:10.826 ♪ (music) ♪ 00:01:10.826 --> 00:01:15.238 Drop off old clothes and get a coupon to save money when you buy new ones. 00:01:16.358 --> 00:01:18.568 But before I part with my old clothes, 00:01:18.568 --> 00:01:20.575 I've got a few more questions. 00:01:20.575 --> 00:01:23.516 These bins sure make us all feel good. 00:01:23.516 --> 00:01:26.482 But are they doing as much good as we think? 00:01:28.221 --> 00:01:29.322 Look at this! 00:01:29.322 --> 00:01:30.923 Look at these bags! 00:01:31.497 --> 00:01:33.883 Most of us are like the Bretons and the Palmas 00:01:33.883 --> 00:01:35.457 in Markham, Ontario. 00:01:35.457 --> 00:01:38.365 Somehow, we end up with too many clothes. 00:01:38.365 --> 00:01:39.540 Emily, what's in here? 00:01:39.540 --> 00:01:42.332 Old clothes that are too small for me. 00:01:42.332 --> 00:01:44.376 They purge a few times a year, 00:01:44.376 --> 00:01:46.686 normally dropping their haul in a charity bin. 00:01:47.289 --> 00:01:48.427 Whoa! 00:01:48.427 --> 00:01:50.610 Stuff like these have holes in them. 00:01:50.610 --> 00:01:52.845 This isn't just a pile of clothes. 00:01:52.845 --> 00:01:55.808 It's now a pile of textile waste. 00:01:55.808 --> 00:02:00.437 And we want to show the kids just how big the problem really is. 00:02:00.437 --> 00:02:02.944 ♪ (music) ♪ 00:02:03.498 --> 00:02:05.235 Are you guys ready to go inside 00:02:05.235 --> 00:02:07.965 and see what happens to all those clothes that you donate? 00:02:07.965 --> 00:02:09.865 - Yes. - All right. Let's go inside. 00:02:09.865 --> 00:02:11.720 ♪ (music) ♪ 00:02:11.720 --> 00:02:13.830 Go on in, take a look. 00:02:14.649 --> 00:02:16.305 Whoa! 00:02:17.045 --> 00:02:21.344 ♪ (music) ♪ 00:02:21.344 --> 00:02:24.206 - Clothes! Clothes! - That's clothes. 00:02:24.206 --> 00:02:26.195 - Clothes! - Do you see that? 00:02:26.195 --> 00:02:28.646 - Oh, my gosh. - Clothes! 00:02:29.481 --> 00:02:31.688 That's a crazy pile. 00:02:31.688 --> 00:02:36.255 And get this, all of this is what's leftover, 00:02:36.255 --> 00:02:38.346 the stuff no one wants. 00:02:38.346 --> 00:02:41.070 The stuff that thrift stores can't sell. 00:02:41.070 --> 00:02:43.796 All those clothes you guys piled up yesterday, 00:02:43.796 --> 00:02:45.671 this is where it can end up. 00:02:45.671 --> 00:02:47.311 It's a lot of clothes. 00:02:47.311 --> 00:02:49.212 It wasn't what I was expecting to see. 00:02:49.935 --> 00:02:51.265 One warehouse, 00:02:51.265 --> 00:02:56.065 more than 200,000 pounds of textile waste each week. 00:02:56.065 --> 00:02:59.608 And that's just from in and around Toronto. 00:03:00.743 --> 00:03:03.076 Across the country, we've got nine other locations 00:03:03.076 --> 00:03:04.190 similar to this one. 00:03:04.190 --> 00:03:07.661 The last year or two years, probably a 15 to 20% growth 00:03:07.661 --> 00:03:10.446 in the overall volume of textiles that are coming in. 00:03:10.446 --> 00:03:14.624 Tonny Colyn is the head of donations for Salvation Army Canada. 00:03:14.624 --> 00:03:19.028 So, how do you think fast fashion has impacted... this? 00:03:19.028 --> 00:03:20.393 All of this. 00:03:20.393 --> 00:03:22.138 It's had a massive effect. 00:03:22.138 --> 00:03:24.339 And all of that stuff has to go somewhere. 00:03:24.339 --> 00:03:26.272 The dads of these two families, 00:03:26.272 --> 00:03:30.064 Michael Palma and Norman Breton. can't believe it. 00:03:30.064 --> 00:03:34.119 Their coats or boots might be okay, but they want something new. 00:03:34.591 --> 00:03:36.959 If they need or if they want, it's a big question. 00:03:36.959 --> 00:03:39.529 A lot of times they want stuff but they don't need it. 00:03:39.529 --> 00:03:40.720 ♪ (music) ♪ 00:03:40.720 --> 00:03:45.525 Still, we can't seem to get our hands on fast fashion fast enough. 00:03:45.525 --> 00:03:48.001 Cheap, trendy, disposable clothes. 00:03:48.001 --> 00:03:50.591 And we're even bragging about it. 00:03:50.591 --> 00:03:52.860 And I ended up with a bag full of clothes. 00:03:52.860 --> 00:03:57.520 We're all buying too much, 400% more, since the 1980's. 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:01.314 The quality isn't all that great, but the prices are fantastic. 00:04:01.314 --> 00:04:04.994 But not all of our old clothes make it to the donation bin. 00:04:04.994 --> 00:04:09.299 Most of it, 85%, ends up in landfill. 00:04:10.791 --> 00:04:16.358 In North America, it's estimated to be at least 25 billion pounds a year. 00:04:17.318 --> 00:04:20.178 In Canada alone, imagine a mountain 00:04:20.178 --> 00:04:24.343 three times the size of Toronto's Rogers Centre Stadium 00:04:24.883 --> 00:04:27.215 Where they don't biodegrade easily 00:04:27.215 --> 00:04:30.888 because many are made with fabrics that can't be broken down, 00:04:32.312 --> 00:04:36.109 releasing chemicals and dyes into our rivers, soil. 00:04:36.109 --> 00:04:37.109 ♪ (music) ♪ 00:04:37.109 --> 00:04:41.781 That's part of the reason why fashion is one of the world's top polluters. 00:04:42.939 --> 00:04:45.478 ♪ (rock music) ♪ 00:04:45.478 --> 00:04:47.144 So in the last few years, 00:04:47.144 --> 00:04:49.352 some of the biggest names in the business, 00:04:49.352 --> 00:04:52.666 Levi's, Nike, Adidas, Zara, 00:04:52.666 --> 00:04:55.076 have started recycling programs. 00:04:55.076 --> 00:04:58.014 All retailers with donation bins in stores 00:04:58.014 --> 00:05:00.352 calling out for your old garments. 00:05:00.352 --> 00:05:03.008 But none go as far as H&M. 00:05:03.008 --> 00:05:06.675 They will take anything: jeans, curtains, even underwear. 00:05:06.675 --> 00:05:08.084 Just check out their ads. 00:05:08.874 --> 00:05:10.822 The thing that you never wore. 00:05:10.822 --> 00:05:12.877 This and this and that. 00:05:13.512 --> 00:05:16.128 The thing with the color that wasn't your color. 00:05:16.128 --> 00:05:17.252 Bring it on. 00:05:17.252 --> 00:05:20.150 This is one of H&M's latest ad campaigns. 00:05:21.112 --> 00:05:23.973 Cut your jeans into pieces and make new jeans out of them. 00:05:24.980 --> 00:05:28.886 "Cut your jeans into pieces and make new jeans out of them." 00:05:28.886 --> 00:05:32.522 With your help,we literally turn your old clothes into new garments. 00:05:33.511 --> 00:05:37.167 "We literally turn your old clothes into new garments." 00:05:37.881 --> 00:05:40.327 Garments in the worst condition can be transformed 00:05:40.327 --> 00:05:44.561 into insulation material or textile fibers woven into cloth, 00:05:44.561 --> 00:05:48.684 reborn as fashionable new clothes of every conceivable kind. 00:05:49.471 --> 00:05:51.710 What do you think about recycling clothes? 00:05:51.710 --> 00:05:54.324 I think that's amazing. That's a great plan. 00:05:54.324 --> 00:05:56.150 We're talking about recycling clothes. 00:05:56.150 --> 00:05:58.771 What does that make you think is happening to the stuff? 00:05:58.771 --> 00:06:02.512 I think maybe it's, like, refurbish the clothes 00:06:02.512 --> 00:06:05.163 and get them to look new again. 00:06:05.163 --> 00:06:07.399 What do you think happens to that stuff? 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:10.836 Doesn't it get recycled to make new clothes from the old clothes? 00:06:10.836 --> 00:06:13.748 Let's shred it into fibers and stitch it into something new 00:06:13.748 --> 00:06:17.468 The only thing we will not do is waste it. 00:06:17.468 --> 00:06:19.186 Bold recycling claims. 00:06:19.186 --> 00:06:21.855 They sound great, but are they really? 00:06:23.549 --> 00:06:27.086 (Flight Attendant Over Intercom) 00:06:27.256 --> 00:06:30.489 To try to find out, we head to New York City, 00:06:30.489 --> 00:06:32.591 one of the fashion capitals of the world. 00:06:34.067 --> 00:06:36.482 With jackets, you always have to check the lining. 00:06:37.063 --> 00:06:40.735 To meet Elizabeth Cline, an anti-fast fashion crusader. 00:06:41.100 --> 00:06:44.417 Because of what she knows, she only wears used clothes. 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:47.224 It's made her a pro at assessing cast-offs. 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:53.307 On a coat, the first thing you would do is make sure the zippers work. 00:06:53.445 --> 00:06:57.105 Especially fast fashion, like, a lot of the fasteners will just break 00:06:57.105 --> 00:06:58.951 and chip really quickly. 00:06:59.173 --> 00:07:01.280 We show her H&M's marketing 00:07:01.297 --> 00:07:05.445 and ask her what she thinks about making new clothes out of your old ones. 00:07:05.868 --> 00:07:08.447 Shred it into fibers and stitch it into something new. 00:07:09.218 --> 00:07:14.195 The reality is that currently only about 1% of clothing is actually recycled 00:07:14.195 --> 00:07:16.469 in the very literal sense of the word. 00:07:16.469 --> 00:07:17.469 1%? 00:07:17.469 --> 00:07:18.470 1%. 00:07:18.470 --> 00:07:20.373 1%...is recycled? 00:07:20.373 --> 00:07:24.420 If you're talking about recycling in terms of taking fibers 00:07:24.458 --> 00:07:25.615 and breaking them down 00:07:25.615 --> 00:07:28.615 and turning them back into new fibers, it's 1%. 00:07:28.891 --> 00:07:31.450 Why is it so hard to just take my old shirt 00:07:31.450 --> 00:07:32.887 and turn it into a new one? 00:07:32.891 --> 00:07:34.388 Why can't you just do is that? 00:07:34.388 --> 00:07:36.887 A lot of our clothes are made out of blended fibers, 00:07:36.887 --> 00:07:41.618 so maybe this is acrylic and wool and cotton mixed together, 00:07:41.997 --> 00:07:45.070 maybe my tights are cotton and elastane, 00:07:45.070 --> 00:07:47.524 that makes it difficult to recycle. 00:07:47.729 --> 00:07:51.637 The other challenge is that when you recycle cotton and wool, 00:07:51.637 --> 00:07:56.091 it diminishes the quality of that material, 00:07:56.091 --> 00:08:00.748 so it weakens the cotton and wool strand and gives you a lesser product. 00:08:01.113 --> 00:08:04.730 Bottom line, the technology just isn't there yet. 00:08:04.950 --> 00:08:08.454 It's way too expensive and too time consuming 00:08:08.454 --> 00:08:10.486 to make new clothes from old ones. 00:08:10.871 --> 00:08:13.417 There's also a more skeptical side of me 00:08:13.417 --> 00:08:17.723 that knows that the reason why H&M is focusing on textile recycling 00:08:17.723 --> 00:08:20.412 is because it's an easy sustainability win for them. 00:08:20.412 --> 00:08:23.802 It doesn't involve them changing their production model at all 00:08:23.802 --> 00:08:27.188 to collect clothes and make sure that they get a second life. 00:08:27.847 --> 00:08:30.798 It doesn't make the fast fashion system any more sustainable. 00:08:33.087 --> 00:08:38.037 Experts agree fast fashion needs to change if we really want to make a difference 00:08:39.017 --> 00:08:41.090 Remember when fashion had four seasons, 00:08:41.090 --> 00:08:43.440 winter, spring, summer and fall? 00:08:43.773 --> 00:08:46.818 Now the trends change almost every day. 00:08:47.292 --> 00:08:50.370 Here's how this Swedish clothing giant CEO explains it. 00:08:50.928 --> 00:08:54.179 We have new garments coming into the stores almost every day. 00:08:54.179 --> 00:08:57.213 So if you go to an H&M store today and come back two days later, 00:08:57.213 --> 00:08:59.579 you will always find something new. 00:09:00.020 --> 00:09:02.899 H&M salespeople tell us new clothes come in 00:09:02.899 --> 00:09:06.249 every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday. 00:09:06.724 --> 00:09:09.691 That works out to half a billion products a year. 00:09:10.376 --> 00:09:16.142 And it's why H&M's recycling campaign makes Claudia Marsales so mad. 00:09:19.198 --> 00:09:23.012 It really is a form of greenwashing. 00:09:23.253 --> 00:09:25.708 She's the head of Markham, Ontario's waste programs. 00:09:25.708 --> 00:09:30.384 One of the few Canadian cities to actually ban textiles from landfills. 00:09:30.692 --> 00:09:36.508 In order for the fast fashion outlets to recycle what they make, 00:09:36.508 --> 00:09:39.794 it would take 12 years to recycle what they sell in 48 hours. 00:09:40.512 --> 00:09:41.675 Like it's just... 00:09:41.675 --> 00:09:45.904 So that sort of tells me it's really more about foot traffic, marketing, 00:09:45.904 --> 00:09:50.731 greenwashing than about really addressing the broken business model 00:09:50.731 --> 00:09:51.790 of fast fashion. 00:09:52.126 --> 00:09:55.907 We asked H&M to come on camera and talk about their recycling program. 00:09:56.161 --> 00:10:00.810 They declined, assuring us they don't want to encourage a throwaway attitude. 00:10:01.233 --> 00:10:04.403 Their clothes are good quality and made to last. 00:10:04.403 --> 00:10:07.606 And they are working towards a business model where, 00:10:07.606 --> 00:10:10.317 eventually, all their clothes can be recycled. 00:10:10.576 --> 00:10:12.478 At least they're trying? 00:10:14.622 --> 00:10:17.237 Yes, well, but they're a cause of the problem. 00:10:17.237 --> 00:10:20.930 So, fast fashion retailers, 00:10:20.930 --> 00:10:23.537 their business model is the problem. 00:10:23.537 --> 00:10:26.658 They're making too much, they're selling it too cheap. 00:10:26.658 --> 00:10:28.399 It's disposable clothing. 00:10:28.760 --> 00:10:32.704 Doing a bit of back-end recycling and a bit of commercials 00:10:32.704 --> 00:10:34.706 really doesn't address that issue. 00:10:37.010 --> 00:10:41.153 And ask some customers one of the things they love most about the program? 00:10:41.706 --> 00:10:42.829 It's the discount. 00:10:43.075 --> 00:10:44.991 That incentive to keep buying. 00:10:45.105 --> 00:10:47.622 I put it in the bin and then they give me a discount. 00:10:47.622 --> 00:10:49.280 I saw it and it's like oh, snap. 00:10:49.280 --> 00:10:51.267 You know, um, it's a way to, like, 00:10:51.267 --> 00:10:53.562 you know, help me and help them at the same time. 00:10:53.562 --> 00:10:56.450 What do you mean when you say help you and help someone else? 00:10:56.755 --> 00:11:00.834 Um, help me by, you know, saving money and help them by providing free clothing. 00:11:01.863 --> 00:11:05.741 We just chuck it in the bin and they did offer, like, a $5 discount. 00:11:06.232 --> 00:11:08.767 H&M might be collecting your old clothes. 00:11:08.767 --> 00:11:11.791 More than 55,000 tonnes so far, 00:11:12.112 --> 00:11:15.639 but if they're barely making new clothes from your donations, 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:17.295 where do they all go? 00:11:17.608 --> 00:11:19.260 These shoppers have a theory. 00:11:20.140 --> 00:11:22.848 Where do you think those clothes go that you put in H&M? 00:11:22.848 --> 00:11:25.708 They probably go to people who need them, 00:11:25.708 --> 00:11:27.283 probably like shelters 00:11:27.283 --> 00:11:29.243 or other places that use the clothes. 00:11:29.243 --> 00:11:33.225 Probably give it for free, or something, to the people that need it. 00:11:33.225 --> 00:11:34.904 Where do you think that stuff goes? 00:11:34.904 --> 00:11:38.174 What do you think happens to it? Hopefully to just some needy people. 00:11:38.174 --> 00:11:39.192 Yeah. 00:11:39.317 --> 00:11:40.898 Who still want to be fashionable. 00:11:40.966 --> 00:11:44.141 Many of us think our old clothes are given to the less fortunate. 00:11:44.475 --> 00:11:45.518 Wrong. 00:11:45.604 --> 00:11:49.542 And maybe you're telling yourself that to feel better about buying more, too. 00:11:50.053 --> 00:11:52.377 Well, Cline coined a term for this. 00:11:55.040 --> 00:11:56.897 What's the clothing deficit myth? 00:11:57.231 --> 00:12:04.111 So, the clothing deficit myth is the idea that when we give clothes to charity, 00:12:04.111 --> 00:12:08.467 they're going to go to someone locally in our community in need. 00:12:09.670 --> 00:12:11.405 But in the era of fast fashion, 00:12:12.430 --> 00:12:15.777 there's far more unwanted clothes than there are people in need. 00:12:17.905 --> 00:12:20.737 The Salvation Army knows all about that. 00:12:21.073 --> 00:12:25.532 Remember, this is all the stuff they can't sell at their stores. 00:12:25.944 --> 00:12:28.904 So what do they do with all these leftovers? 00:12:29.054 --> 00:12:31.354 They sell it to a middle man. 00:12:31.815 --> 00:12:35.777 And the retailers do the same thing with all your donations too. 00:12:36.193 --> 00:12:41.064 In Canada, H&M gives the money it makes off your donations to UNICEF. 00:12:41.737 --> 00:12:42.774 Here's the thing. 00:12:42.774 --> 00:12:44.684 All textiles are worth money. 00:12:45.317 --> 00:12:48.759 The stuff that's in really rough shape is shredded for painter's cloths 00:12:48.763 --> 00:12:51.531 or insulation, for example, then sold. 00:12:51.970 --> 00:12:56.561 But the majority of all donated clothes are shipped overseas 00:12:56.561 --> 00:12:59.590 to developing countries and they're sold there, too. 00:12:59.945 --> 00:13:02.468 Not donated or given to needy people. 00:13:02.468 --> 00:13:06.008 And if you think that means it's not going to end up in landfills, 00:13:06.448 --> 00:13:07.516 think again. 00:13:09.966 --> 00:13:14.066 We follow the trail of your old T-shirts around the world. 00:13:14.366 --> 00:13:16.363 The black stripes here are from Canada. 00:13:16.729 --> 00:13:19.030 You can't afford to miss this trip. 00:13:19.664 --> 00:13:21.613 This is your "Marketplace." 00:13:25.437 --> 00:13:27.472 The real deal on your "Marketplace." 00:13:31.377 --> 00:13:32.944 We love our clothes. 00:13:32.944 --> 00:13:36.543 Now so cheap, you can make a different statement every day. 00:13:36.882 --> 00:13:38.684 These things are $3? 00:13:39.427 --> 00:13:40.488 $5. 00:13:40.953 --> 00:13:43.199 But they come with a huge cost. 00:13:43.489 --> 00:13:46.075 Part of the reason why some fast fashion chains, 00:13:46.075 --> 00:13:49.895 like H&M, say they've got recycling programs like this. 00:13:50.182 --> 00:13:53.056 The Earth simply cannot bear so many clothes 00:13:53.056 --> 00:13:54.866 ending their lives as waste. 00:13:54.866 --> 00:13:57.108 H&M has a far better answer. 00:13:57.636 --> 00:14:03.276 But we learnt less than 1% of the world's used clothes are turned into new ones. 00:14:03.763 --> 00:14:07.855 The majority of those donations from retailer and charity bins 00:14:07.855 --> 00:14:10.315 are bailed and sold overseas. 00:14:17.856 --> 00:14:20.036 This is Nairobi, Kenya. 00:14:20.036 --> 00:14:24.663 The country at the top of the list when it comes to buying your old clothes. 00:14:25.017 --> 00:14:27.733 Kenya is one of Canada's best customers. 00:14:27.733 --> 00:14:33.149 In a given year, they buy more than $20 million worth of our old clothes 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:37.999 All the rest with the black stripes here are from Canada. 00:14:37.999 --> 00:14:39.945 These are a variety of kids clothing. 00:14:40.225 --> 00:14:41.680 This one is a jacket. 00:14:42.073 --> 00:14:43.248 Ladies T-shirts. 00:14:43.850 --> 00:14:46.318 Maina Andrew is a used clothing importer. 00:14:46.318 --> 00:14:51.224 People from Canada and America, they are actually a bit huge. 00:14:51.656 --> 00:14:53.659 Scenes like this aren't isolated. 00:14:53.659 --> 00:14:57.607 You'll see them all over Africa, South and Central America. 00:14:57.963 --> 00:15:01.433 A lot of this is stuff Canadians donated for free, 00:15:02.067 --> 00:15:06.204 only for it to be sold here for profit to vendors 00:15:06.204 --> 00:15:10.676 like Alice Nyansarora Anunda, who brings it to her local market. 00:15:10.863 --> 00:15:13.314 They call the clothes, "Mitumba." 00:15:15.647 --> 00:15:21.520 No, that one, it's just a nickname we gave it, 00:15:21.974 --> 00:15:24.714 "Mitumba" means, "Old" in our culture. 00:15:24.957 --> 00:15:27.993 Nearly 13,000 kilometres away. 00:15:27.993 --> 00:15:30.763 But take a closer look and there they are. 00:15:30.763 --> 00:15:32.730 The names you know. 00:15:32.730 --> 00:15:36.234 AEO, Zara, Adidas, H&M. 00:15:36.234 --> 00:15:41.929 The way we open bails, we know their plans where there's new clothes, 00:15:41.929 --> 00:15:44.951 especially those which come from Canada. 00:15:45.410 --> 00:15:49.691 But Andrew notices many of the clothes are low quality, tough to sell. 00:15:50.015 --> 00:15:51.149 We just dump them. 00:15:51.149 --> 00:15:53.801 If people don't buy them, we just dump them. 00:16:02.828 --> 00:16:06.973 They do go in the piles of garbage, very many of them. 00:16:09.734 --> 00:16:13.618 He says this happens regularly right behind the market, 00:16:13.618 --> 00:16:16.835 discarding and burning clothes Canadians don't want 00:16:16.835 --> 00:16:18.632 and neither do Kenyans. 00:16:19.611 --> 00:16:22.381 Sometimes they pack even very old items. 00:16:22.381 --> 00:16:25.050 You can even pack items that are not even good, 00:16:25.822 --> 00:16:29.487 and they end up dumping them in Africa or in Kenya. 00:16:36.461 --> 00:16:40.330 Yeah, we burn them and it is a lost work because we have already bought them. 00:16:44.036 --> 00:16:46.363 All those popular brands in the crowded markets, 00:16:46.504 --> 00:16:48.834 Elizabeth Cline has seen them, too. 00:16:49.124 --> 00:16:50.134 She's been to Kenya. 00:16:50.324 --> 00:16:52.909 There are a lot of different companies around the world 00:16:52.909 --> 00:16:56.220 that are working on textile recycling in the truest sense of the word, 00:16:56.220 --> 00:16:58.780 but it's really in the very early stages. 00:16:58.780 --> 00:17:01.852 Whether it stays in the United States or if it ends up in Africa, 00:17:01.852 --> 00:17:04.540 ultimately it is going to end up in the landfill. 00:17:04.848 --> 00:17:08.324 We tell H&M about this Kenyan market and all the fires. 00:17:08.576 --> 00:17:10.659 They say its middle man I:CO, 00:17:10.659 --> 00:17:13.319 which handles pickup and distribution of their bins, 00:17:13.319 --> 00:17:14.933 has really high standards. 00:17:14.933 --> 00:17:18.354 But they are still working on building a better tracking system 00:17:18.354 --> 00:17:20.338 so this doesn't keep happening. 00:17:20.738 --> 00:17:23.141 Dumping is always cheaper. 00:17:23.141 --> 00:17:25.176 It's always the cheaper option. 00:17:25.176 --> 00:17:26.610 There's only one solution. 00:17:26.611 --> 00:17:30.381 The producer of the clothing is responsible cradle to grave. 00:17:30.381 --> 00:17:33.218 So they make the T-shirt, they sell the T-shirt, 00:17:33.218 --> 00:17:37.455 the T-shirt comes back, they have to recycle that T-shirt. 00:17:37.455 --> 00:17:39.691 They can't put it in a third world country. 00:17:40.032 --> 00:17:43.198 As far as South Africa is concerned, we banned secondhand clothing. 00:17:43.198 --> 00:17:46.728 When a country survives on secondhand things, 00:17:46.728 --> 00:17:47.803 secondhand clothes, 00:17:47.803 --> 00:17:50.138 it means there's something wrong with that system. 00:17:50.338 --> 00:17:52.987 Threatening the survival of the local textiles industry. 00:17:52.987 --> 00:17:55.821 And now many of those countries are fighting back. 00:17:55.907 --> 00:17:59.144 East African countries sent the world a message recently. 00:17:59.144 --> 00:18:02.803 They don't want our hand-me-downs and tried to ban them. 00:18:02.847 --> 00:18:06.255 Their government said it was destroying their own textile market. 00:18:06.385 --> 00:18:08.586 Secondhand clothes are quite cheap 00:18:08.592 --> 00:18:12.929 and any manufactured textile would not be able to compete with them. 00:18:15.274 --> 00:18:17.395 And despite everything you just watched, 00:18:17.395 --> 00:18:21.704 Cline says H&M group is a frontrunner in sustainability efforts. 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:24.035 Compared to other brands, they are leaders. 00:18:24.813 --> 00:18:28.004 I don't know what that says about the rest of the fashion industry, 00:18:28.004 --> 00:18:30.539 that a fast fashion chain is at the top of that list. 00:18:30.675 --> 00:18:33.813 Just know that your textile waste is an environmental issue. 00:18:34.486 --> 00:18:38.528 Textile waste in landfills is one of the fastest growing categories of waste 00:18:38.528 --> 00:18:41.744 and it's such an easy thing to do something about. 00:18:43.144 --> 00:18:46.224 So what should you do with all your old clothes? 00:18:46.224 --> 00:18:48.372 The answers, coming right up. 00:18:50.362 --> 00:18:52.570 Do you have a story you want us to investigate? 00:18:52.797 --> 00:18:56.507 Write to us: Marketplace@cbc.ca. 00:18:59.804 --> 00:19:02.564 The high cost of fashion on your "Marketplace." 00:19:02.957 --> 00:19:04.939 Do you ever impulse buy? Absolutely. 00:19:04.939 --> 00:19:08.197 What was the last thing you bought that now you see, and you're like: 00:19:08.197 --> 00:19:09.445 "What was I thinking?" 00:19:09.445 --> 00:19:10.646 Clothing always. 00:19:10.746 --> 00:19:14.109 On average, we buy almost 70 clothing items every year. 00:19:14.286 --> 00:19:17.188 That means we're buying new clothes every week. 00:19:18.058 --> 00:19:19.120 What did you buy? 00:19:19.458 --> 00:19:20.792 A lot of stuff. 00:19:20.792 --> 00:19:21.960 Did you need anything? 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:22.981 No. 00:19:23.021 --> 00:19:25.321 Just looking around and you bought a few things. 00:19:25.321 --> 00:19:29.570 Yes, I bought lots of things: leggings, shirts, socks, underwear. 00:19:30.083 --> 00:19:33.339 Most of these styles will end up trashed in landfills. 00:19:33.504 --> 00:19:38.486 Fast fashion is a big part of the problem, but we don't have to buy in. 00:19:38.676 --> 00:19:42.887 So this is 50% polyester, 50% cotton. 00:19:42.887 --> 00:19:45.910 It's really hard to separate those fibers and make new stuff. 00:19:45.910 --> 00:19:46.995 You bet. 00:19:46.995 --> 00:19:50.635 Do you know how many litres of water goes into making a single pair of jeans? 00:19:50.635 --> 00:19:51.939 Almost 4,000 litres. 00:19:51.939 --> 00:19:53.025 Wow. Whoo. 00:19:53.025 --> 00:19:54.325 That's crazy. 00:19:57.162 --> 00:19:58.285 And sometimes, 00:19:58.285 --> 00:20:00.965 just seeing the waste makes a difference. 00:20:00.965 --> 00:20:03.802 These families swear they'll change their ways. 00:20:03.802 --> 00:20:06.619 They want to look at the cute things, things that look good, 00:20:06.619 --> 00:20:08.370 but not necessarily good quality. 00:20:08.370 --> 00:20:11.980 We have to... we try to teach them to use their stuff until it's worn out. 00:20:13.715 --> 00:20:15.478 Speaking of waste and consumption, 00:20:15.595 --> 00:20:18.183 I've still got my bag of clothes to get rid of. 00:20:18.183 --> 00:20:22.909 I don't really know where the best place is to go with my stuff. 00:20:23.108 --> 00:20:25.052 And I think people at home who see this 00:20:25.052 --> 00:20:27.138 are probably going to have the same question 00:20:27.235 --> 00:20:31.663 Some people like to swap the clothes, so that's the first line of defence. 00:20:31.663 --> 00:20:33.352 If it's in really good condition, 00:20:33.352 --> 00:20:35.412 you can take them to a consignment store. 00:20:35.412 --> 00:20:39.500 You can also donate to a reputable charity. 00:20:39.637 --> 00:20:44.448 Do your research on who you're giving your clothing to. 00:20:45.498 --> 00:20:46.871 Don't buy so much. 00:20:47.222 --> 00:20:50.321 So bottom line, when it comes to your used clothing, 00:20:50.321 --> 00:20:51.378 don't throw it away, 00:20:51.378 --> 00:20:53.861 try and give it to somebody who can actually use it. 00:20:53.861 --> 00:20:56.254 Hey, girls, does anybody need a T-shirt? 00:20:56.512 --> 00:20:57.889 No, you sure? 00:20:57.889 --> 00:20:59.224 Black dress pants? 00:20:59.224 --> 00:21:00.726 Hardly ever wore them. 00:21:00.726 --> 00:21:01.793 This is cool, right? 00:21:01.793 --> 00:21:02.994 Zipper in the back. 00:21:02.994 --> 00:21:04.065 I think I'm okay. 00:21:04.065 --> 00:21:06.707 Any chance you want to return yours and take these ones? 00:21:06.707 --> 00:21:07.728 No, thank you. 00:21:07.728 --> 00:21:09.939 They're a size small. I wore them, like, twice. 00:21:09.939 --> 00:21:11.059 No, thank you. No? No. 00:21:11.249 --> 00:21:13.350 Do any of you need a pair of pajama pants 00:21:13.350 --> 00:21:15.213 or know someone who might want these? 00:21:16.273 --> 00:21:17.388 I'll take them. T-shirt? 00:21:17.388 --> 00:21:18.570 I'll take them. 00:21:18.570 --> 00:21:20.485 Any chance you want a pair of Levi's? 00:21:20.585 --> 00:21:22.531 Sure, size 6, me. 00:21:22.981 --> 00:21:24.155 Awesome! Awesome. 00:21:24.165 --> 00:21:26.697 There you go and they won't go to a landfill this way. 00:21:26.697 --> 00:21:27.706 No. 00:21:28.196 --> 00:21:31.898 Maybe there is no perfect solution to this complicated problem. 00:21:31.898 --> 00:21:34.818 But if there's something I've learned throughout this process, 00:21:34.818 --> 00:21:36.861 it's that there is something I can do. 00:21:36.861 --> 00:21:39.784 And, for me, that will mean buying less. 00:21:43.834 --> 00:21:47.139 A special, year long Marketplace investigation. 00:21:47.139 --> 00:21:50.316 We go undercover, inside nursing homes. 00:21:50.708 --> 00:21:53.311 I was shouting my head off and they didn't come in. 00:21:53.311 --> 00:21:55.514 Families fighting for better care. 00:21:55.514 --> 00:21:58.683 Die, die you bitch. You need to die now. 00:21:58.683 --> 00:21:59.918 My poor mother. 00:21:59.918 --> 00:22:02.887 Has long term care reached a crisis point? 00:22:02.887 --> 00:22:04.789 Oh, we're way past that. 00:22:04.789 --> 00:22:07.125 I think we've been in crisis for years. 00:22:07.125 --> 00:22:09.194 If this happened in a day care, 00:22:09.194 --> 00:22:11.538 that day care would be shut down in five minutes. 00:22:11.538 --> 00:22:13.419 How to fight for better care, 00:22:13.898 --> 00:22:15.360 On the next Marketplace.