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All that we have invented,

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the symbols in the church,

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the rituals,

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they are all put
there by thought.

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Thought has invented
these things,

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invented the savior,

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invented the temples in India
and the contents of the temples.

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Thought has invented
all these things called sacred.

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You can’t deny that.

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So thought in itself is not sacred.

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And when thought invents God,
God is not sacred.

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So – what is sacred?

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That can only be...

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understood or happen...

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when there is
complete freedom...

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from fear,

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from sorrow,

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and when there is
this sense of love...

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and compassion
with its own intelligence.

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Then, when the mind
is utterly still,

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that which is sacred
can take place.

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It was a late summer afternoon.

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Near the shore, a group
of children were playing.

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One of the boys, though
ragged and undernourished,

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stood apart from the others.

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He was described
as having a special radiance.

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A pure and shining atmosphere
surrounded him.

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Because of these qualities
the child was singled out...

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and chosen to be the vehicle
for the coming ‘World Teacher’.

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This discovery
was not an isolated revelation...

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for it was believed that humanity
was entering a new age...

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an age that would bring with it
a new Messiah.

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During the early decades
of the 19th century...

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science was beginning to replace
religion as the savior of humanity.

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As the monolithic
church splintered,

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new organizations emerged...

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offering a balance
between science and religion.

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One of the many new groups,
the Theosophical Society,

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spread rapidly
throughout the world.

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Founded by Russian born
Helena Petrovna Blavatsky...

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and the American
Henry Steel Olcott,

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its objectives
were to seek truth...

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of the ancient religions
of the East,

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to investigate the unexplained
laws of nature...

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and to promote
universal brotherhood.

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So attractive were these ideals
that by 1881...

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the Society had become
a worldwide institution...

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with over 100,000
enthusiastic members.

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Helena Blavatsky was a deep
student of metaphysical lore...

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and was sought after...

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by those who believed her
to possess psychic powers.

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Derided by some as a charlatan,

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she was, however,
a serious writer...

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and in 1888
published her greatest work:

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two tremendous volumes entitled
‘The Secret Doctrine’.

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Annie Besant, a young journalist,

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was asked to analyse the work
for London’s Review of Reviews.

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Turning the pages, she was
“dazzled by what she read”.

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To her, disjointed facts
were now seen...

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as parts of a mighty whole...

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and the puzzles, riddles
and problems of her life...

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seemed to disappear.

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Within weeks...

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Annie Besant made a life
long commitment to Theosophy.

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This sudden step was
not out of character...

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for the impetuous
Mrs. Besant.

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She was already well known
to Victorian England...

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as an orator, educator,
energetic feminist...

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and a pioneer on behalf
of the emerging labor movement.

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She organized a
strike of match girls

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at Bryant and Mays factory.

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Her sense of social
justice...

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led her to become
a Fabian Socialist...

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along with Sidney Webb,
George Bernard Shaw...

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and Ramsey McDonald.

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After Blavatsky’s death,

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Annie Besant became
head of the Society...

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and the most influential force
for the theosophical ideal.

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It was she who forged Blavatsky’s
unwieldy philosophy...

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into a popular movement.

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Many of the world’s religions
speak of a hero or savior...

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who appears in a time of crisis
to help mankind.

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In “The Secret Doctrine”
Blavatsky described...

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how such a teacher
would define truth...

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in terms suitable
for a new civilization.

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Over the years this theme had been
developing in Besant’s mind.

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By 1900 she was convinced
that time had come...

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for the reappearance
of a great spiritual leader.

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Even now she was lecturing in India,
Europe and the United States...

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on the coming of a World Teacher.

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Expectations were spreading
throughout the Society...

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and thousands thronged
to hear her lectures.

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Charles Webster Leadbeater...

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was another leading
member of the society.

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He and Besant
worked closely together...

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and seemed to compliment
each other...

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as Olcott and Blavatsky
had done years earlier.

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The year was 1909.

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C. W. Leadbeater had moved
to India...

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and was now living at Adyar,

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the Theosophical headquarters
near Madras.

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Each day, he would stroll
with a group of friends...

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along the beach
on the Bay of Bengal.

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It was there, that the young
Jiddu Krishnamurti was discovered.

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In spite of the child’s thin,
uncared-for appearance,

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Leadbeater saw a quality
so remarkable...

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that he announced,
that this Brahmin boy...

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would fulfill
the long awaited prophecy.

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Krishnamurti...

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was to be prepared as the
vehicle for the world teacher.

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The child’s mother, Sanjeevamma,
had died some years earlier...

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and the 14-year-old
boy had come to live...

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with his father
and three brothers...

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just outside
the Society’s compound.

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The dreamy boy suffered
from malaria,

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and illness often kept him
from school.

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He was unassuming...

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and yielded easily to
the suggestions of others.

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He seemed to live in another world.

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Often oblivious to what
was going on around him.

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There was a curious emptiness.

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Krishnamurti and his younger
brother, Nityananda,

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were especially close.

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And when told of the opportunity of
being prepared for great things,

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he refused unless
Nitya could be with him.

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On November 27, 1909,

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Annie Besant
returned to India...

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and met the brothers
for the first time.

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An affectionate bond
was formed,

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and she became to the
shy Krishnamurti...

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a mother, teacher, and friend.

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To Annie Besant the responsibility
for guiding the boy’s future...

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became a sacred trust.

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It was decided that...

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the time had come to introduce
Krishnamurti to the world.

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For this purpose the Order of
the Star in the East was formed.

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With Krishnamurti
as its nominal head...

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and under the guidance
of Annie Besant,

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the Order hoped
to prepare its members...

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to accept the world teacher
and his message.

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During the theosophical convention
held in Benares that year...

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nearly 400 new members
joined the Order of the Star.

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A glorious future
was foreseen...

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as members spoke
of ‘the Second Coming’.

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In a wave of emotion the new members
fell at the boy’s feet.

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And Mrs. Besant publicly announced
that Krishnamurti...

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was to indeed become
the vehicle for the world teacher.

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At the end of 1911
the mould had been cast...

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and the destiny of the young boy
seemed assured.

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Narianiah, the boys’ father,
was not as easily convinced.

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This deification might make him
the laughing stock of India...

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and he threatened to deprive
Mrs. Besant of their custody.

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She quickly intervened...

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by describing the advantages
of an English education...

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and stressed the
special advantage...

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of his sons becoming
Oxford graduates.

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On January 19, 1912,
Narianiah signed a document...

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allowing Krishnamurti and Nitya
to be taken to England.

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He was unaware that
it would be 10 years...

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and involve a lengthy lawsuit...

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before his sons were to return.

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In England, news of their
arrival spread quickly...

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and a large crowd
was on hand...

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to greet the party at
Charing Cross Station.

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An English Theosophist described
Krishnamurti on arrival as...

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“an odd figure with long black hair
falling almost to his shoulders...

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and enormous dark eyes
which had a vacant look in them.”

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When I went to Europe
for the first time...

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I lived among people who were
wealthy and well educated,

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who held positions
of social authority.

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I walked about the streets,
watching the faces of people.

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I went to theatres.

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I saw how people amused themselves
trying to forget their unhappiness.

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I saw people with political,
social or religious power.

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I watched the amusements
of the young people.

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I saw people who desire to serve...

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going into those quarters
where the poor and degraded live.

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They desired to help...

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but were themselves helpless.

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How can you cure another of disease
if you are yourself a victim...

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of that disease?

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I questioned everything...

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because I wanted to find out
for myself.

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Annie Besant gave 3
stirring lectures...

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at the Queen’s Hall
in London.

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The movement was gathering force.

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When she returned to India...

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the boy’s education began
under a series of tutors.

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The young man was constantly...

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surrounded by teachers
and attentive followers.

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Never allowed to be alone,
he longed for a more normal life.

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He grew dissatisfied...

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and lost all interest in the role
he was being prepared for.

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In the summer of 1914,
England plunged into the Great War.

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Communications collapsed
and the boy’s seclusion intensified.

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Krishnamurti became
more and more restless.

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Annie Besant wrote and
reminded him as she often did,

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that his happiness would lie
only in the work ahead.

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Though he felt a deep love
and loyalty for Mrs. Besant,

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inwardly a quiet revolution
was unfolding.

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I have long been in revolt
from all things.

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From the authority of others.
From the instruction of others.

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From the knowledge of others.

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I would not accept
anything as truth...

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until I found
the truth for myself.

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I never opposed the
ideas of others...

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but I would not
accept their authority...

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or their theory of life.

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Until I was in that
state of revolt,

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until I became dissatisfied
with everything,

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with every creed,
with every dogma and belief,

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I was not able to find the truth.

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The boys worked hard to pass
their college entrance examinations.

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Nitya had little difficulty,

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but Krishnamurti was a slow
and indifferent student.

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To everyone’s disappointment
it became clear...

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that he would not be accepted
by either Oxford or Cambridge.

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The close of the war in 1918...

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brought increased activity
among Theosophists.

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In India, Annie Besant
was deeply absorbed...

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in problems of education
and political action.

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She was in the forefront of the
struggle for Indian independence...

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along with Gandhi and others.

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But in her lectures
she continued to proclaim...

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the importance of
the world teacher...

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and his message for humanity.

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Krishnamurti was maturing slowly...

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and after a ten-year absence
from his native country,

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it was decided that
his work would begin at Adyar.

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In late December the brothers
arrived in Bombay.

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For Mrs. Besant, the long
awaited day had finally come...

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as the two brothers,
who “left as boys,

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returned as men.”

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When I came to India
I saw that the people there...

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were deluding
themselves equally,

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carrying on the same
old traditions,

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treating women cruelly.

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At the same time they called
themselves very religious...

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and painted their faces
with ashes.

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In India, they may have the most
sacred books in the world,

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they may have
the greatest philosophies,

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they may have constructed
wonderful temples in the past,

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but none of these was able
to give me what I wanted.

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As head of the Order of the Star...

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the shy young man
plunged into his work.

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He wrote numerous books
and articles for Star publications.

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There were lectures to give
and meetings to attend.

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The brothers undertook
a heavy schedule...

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speaking in India, England,
Australia and Europe.

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These travels became
a heavy strain on Nitya.

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He became ill and was diagnosed
as having tuberculosis.

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California was
suggested as having...

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a healthful climate
for consumptives...

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and an ideal place for recovery.

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In the summer of 1922,

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the loan of a small
cottage in the Ojai Valley...

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brought the young men
to America for the first time.

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Writing to Mrs. Besant,

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Nitya described their
new surroundings:

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“In a long narrow valley
of apricot orchards...

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and orange groves,
is our home.

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And the hot sun shines day after day
to remind us of Adyar.

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The Indians call our valley
the Ojai, or the nest.

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And for centuries they must
have sought it as a refuge.”

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For a time Nitya seemed to recover.

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But perhaps best of all,
they were alone.

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Privacy had been a luxury
denied them since childhood.

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But now in the silence
of the valley...

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Krishnamurti had an opportunity
to be with himself.

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He walked alone in the hills,

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climbing through orange
groves and scrub brush.

00:18:00.420 --> 00:18:04.290
As the days passed,
a strange uneasiness seized him.

00:18:04.330 --> 00:18:08.780
He became ill and complained of
intense pain and suffocating heat.

00:18:08.890 --> 00:18:10.560
There were periods
of unconsciousness...

00:18:10.600 --> 00:18:13.370
as the strange process
reached its peak.

00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:17.440
Agitated and feverish,
he insisted on walking alone...

00:18:18.210 --> 00:18:19.240
but was urged instead...

00:18:19.280 --> 00:18:24.380
to rest under a young pepper tree
that stood near the cottage.

00:18:25.320 --> 00:18:28.390
It was there,
in the stillness of the night,

00:18:28.420 --> 00:18:31.430
that a transcendent event
took place...

00:18:31.460 --> 00:18:36.200
that shook his life
to its foundations.

00:18:43.270 --> 00:18:47.280
I could feel the wind
passing through the trees,

00:18:47.310 --> 00:18:50.350
and the little ant
on the blade of grass.

00:18:51.220 --> 00:18:53.380
I could feel the birds,

00:18:53.450 --> 00:18:55.320
the dust.

00:18:56.220 --> 00:18:59.320
And every noise was a part of me.

00:19:00.430 --> 00:19:02.460
I was in everything.

00:19:03.300 --> 00:19:05.330
Or rather everything...

00:19:05.370 --> 00:19:07.230
was in me.

00:19:08.340 --> 00:19:10.370
I was supremely happy...

00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:12.270
for I had seen.

00:19:13.210 --> 00:19:16.210
Nothing could ever be the same.

00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:20.380
I have drunk at the clear and
pure waters of the fountain of life.

00:19:20.420 --> 00:19:23.420
And my thirst was appeased.

00:19:24.320 --> 00:19:26.360
Never more could I be thirsty.

00:19:26.390 --> 00:19:30.360
Never more could I be
in utter darkness.

00:19:31.500 --> 00:19:34.300
I have touched the compassion,

00:19:34.330 --> 00:19:38.340
which heals
all sorrow and suffering.

00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:43.210
It is not for myself...

00:19:44.280 --> 00:19:46.280
but for the world.

00:19:53.220 --> 00:19:55.220
To describe his new perceptions...

00:19:55.250 --> 00:19:58.460
Krishnamurti embarked
on a world wide speaking tour.

00:19:59.230 --> 00:20:01.430
The change was unmistakable.

00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:10.270
Everywhere, among all people,

00:20:10.310 --> 00:20:13.340
there is a search
for something hidden.

00:20:13.380 --> 00:20:15.480
For some realization...

00:20:16.350 --> 00:20:18.390
which will give
greater knowledge,

00:20:18.630 --> 00:20:20.170
greater vision,

00:20:20.230 --> 00:20:22.250
greater understanding.

00:20:22.350 --> 00:20:25.490
And this the people call ‘truth’.

00:20:26.390 --> 00:20:30.400
They think that truth lies hidden
in some distant place,

00:20:30.430 --> 00:20:32.270
away from life,

00:20:32.300 --> 00:20:34.030
away from joy,

00:20:34.270 --> 00:20:36.240
away from sorrow.

00:20:37.340 --> 00:20:40.340
But truth is life itself.

00:20:42.210 --> 00:20:45.210
And with an understanding of life,

00:20:45.250 --> 00:20:49.320
there is born
an understanding of truth.

00:21:01.370 --> 00:21:03.440
While traveling,
a sudden hemorrhage...

00:21:03.520 --> 00:21:05.410
brought back fears
for Nitya’s health.

00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:09.280
He was weak, in high fever
and racked with coughing.

00:21:09.310 --> 00:21:11.410
It was decided that the brothers
should again return...

00:21:11.650 --> 00:21:14.380
to the dry climate
of the Ojai Valley.

00:21:14.410 --> 00:21:17.350
Once in California
Nitya seemed to improve.

00:21:17.390 --> 00:21:19.590
And when Mrs. Besant
cabled asking...

00:21:19.660 --> 00:21:21.260
that Krishnamurti
come to India...

00:21:21.290 --> 00:21:23.390
for Theosophy’s
Jubilee Convention,

00:21:23.430 --> 00:21:26.230
he reluctantly agreed.

00:21:27.360 --> 00:21:30.370
The bond between the brothers
had grown stronger than ever.

00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:32.110
There was unquestioning
faith that...

00:21:32.140 --> 00:21:34.410
Nitya was essential
to the work ahead...

00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:38.240
and because of this,
his life would be spared.

00:21:38.280 --> 00:21:42.310
While enroute, a cable arrived
saying that Nitya had influenza.

00:21:42.350 --> 00:21:48.260
A later wire read, “Flu rather
more serious, pray for me.”

00:21:49.360 --> 00:21:51.260
On the 13th of November,

00:21:51.360 --> 00:21:54.300
as the ship entered
the Suez Canal,

00:21:54.330 --> 00:21:58.300
a telegram arrived
announcing Nitya’s death.

00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:06.280
The news broke Krishnamurti
completely.

00:22:06.310 --> 00:22:10.250
It did more.
His entire philosophy of life,

00:22:10.280 --> 00:22:12.280
the implicit faith
in the future...

00:22:12.320 --> 00:22:14.520
and Nitya’s
vital part in it all,

00:22:15.250 --> 00:22:18.520
appeared to be shattered
at that moment.

00:22:23.230 --> 00:22:24.360
An old dream...

00:22:25.230 --> 00:22:26.370
is dead...

00:22:26.470 --> 00:22:29.500
and a new one is being born.

00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:33.340
A new vision is coming into being.

00:22:33.370 --> 00:22:37.530
And a new consciousness
is being unfolded.

00:22:38.070 --> 00:22:41.380
I know now, with greater certainty
than ever before,

00:22:41.420 --> 00:22:44.390
that there is
real beauty in life.

00:22:44.420 --> 00:22:46.320
Real happiness...

00:22:46.420 --> 00:22:50.330
that cannot be shattered
by any physical happening.

00:22:50.360 --> 00:22:52.330
A great strength...

00:22:52.360 --> 00:22:56.400
which cannot be weakened
by any passing events.

00:22:56.900 --> 00:22:58.470
And a great love,

00:22:59.270 --> 00:23:01.240
which is permanent,

00:23:01.270 --> 00:23:02.510
imperishable...

00:23:03.280 --> 00:23:05.310
and unconquerable.

00:23:08.730 --> 00:23:10.700
By the time he reached Madras...

00:23:10.730 --> 00:23:14.510
his face was quiet and radiant.

00:23:14.970 --> 00:23:17.370
The Jubilee Convention of 1925...

00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:21.580
celebrated 50 years in the
life of the Theosophical Society.

00:23:21.610 --> 00:23:24.150
Thousands attended
the four-day gatherings...

00:23:24.230 --> 00:23:25.810
and the events were
eagerly reported...

00:23:25.890 --> 00:23:28.560
by newspapers
around the world.

00:23:28.590 --> 00:23:31.560
A Star Congress
followed the convention.

00:23:31.590 --> 00:23:37.500
By this time the Order of the Star
had grown to over 45,000 members.

00:23:39.370 --> 00:23:42.640
Under the branches of
Adyar’s enormous banyan tree...

00:23:42.670 --> 00:23:46.510
Krishnamurti spoke
of the world teacher.

00:23:46.740 --> 00:23:50.550
His face was powerful
and stern at the twilight,

00:23:50.580 --> 00:23:54.720
his eyes half veiled,
as if looking inward.

00:23:56.520 --> 00:23:59.720
As he spoke, a deep silence
spread through the audience.

00:23:59.760 --> 00:24:02.660
Some thought
they saw a light envelope him.

00:24:02.700 --> 00:24:04.860
And many believed that
they were in the presence...

00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:08.570
of the Messiah himself.

00:24:08.600 --> 00:24:11.670
The young man was becoming
the focus of deep divisions.

00:24:11.710 --> 00:24:14.610
While thousands accepted him
as the World Teacher...

00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:19.750
others were disturbed by the
adoration and attention given him.

00:24:21.220 --> 00:24:22.880
In the Netherlands,
some years earlier,

00:24:22.980 --> 00:24:26.520
the Baron Phillip van Pallandt
had given his ancestral home,

00:24:26.550 --> 00:24:29.220
the Castle Eerde,
to the Order of the Star.

00:24:29.310 --> 00:24:33.350
5.000 wooded acres surrounded
the 18th century buildings.

00:24:33.380 --> 00:24:35.280
The castle had been transformed...

00:24:35.320 --> 00:24:40.260
into a meeting place where
small groups gathered yearly.

00:24:43.360 --> 00:24:46.260
The change that was
taking place in Krishnamurti...

00:24:46.300 --> 00:24:48.010
was to intensify
the following week...

00:24:48.090 --> 00:24:51.540
at the Ommen
Star camp of 1926.

00:24:52.300 --> 00:24:54.270
Close to the Castle Eerde,

00:24:54.300 --> 00:24:59.280
the Ommen Camp attracted over
2,000 people of every nationality.

00:25:00.280 --> 00:25:03.520
There were huge tents
for meetings and for meals.

00:25:03.550 --> 00:25:05.390
Lectures were given.

00:25:05.420 --> 00:25:06.550
And every evening...

00:25:06.580 --> 00:25:12.330
Krishnamurti lit a bonfire
and spoke to the gathering.

00:25:16.300 --> 00:25:19.500
In order to be happy,
need we have religions?

00:25:19.530 --> 00:25:21.370
In order to love,

00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:24.270
need we build temples?

00:25:24.310 --> 00:25:28.350
Truth cannot be found in the
dark sanctuary of temples...

00:25:28.380 --> 00:25:32.420
nor in the well-lit halls
of organized societies.

00:25:32.450 --> 00:25:37.420
Neither can it be found in books
nor in ceremonies.

00:25:38.360 --> 00:25:41.020
Go down to the sea
where the breezes are blowing...

00:25:41.110 --> 00:25:44.330
and the waves are breaking
over each other.

00:25:44.360 --> 00:25:47.380
You want to gather and
bind all that beauty

00:25:47.470 --> 00:25:49.470
into a narrow temple?

00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:52.980
Do not allow your mind
or your heart...

00:25:53.070 --> 00:25:55.310
to be bound by anything...

00:25:55.340 --> 00:25:56.510
or anyone.

00:25:57.280 --> 00:25:58.450
If you do...

00:25:58.480 --> 00:26:01.350
you will establish
another religion,

00:26:01.380 --> 00:26:03.290
another temple.

00:26:04.320 --> 00:26:06.360
You must not create little gods...

00:26:06.390 --> 00:26:09.290
and worship at little shrines.

00:26:09.430 --> 00:26:12.530
Who wants to worship
by the light of one candle,

00:26:12.560 --> 00:26:15.530
when you can have the sun?

00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:25.750
It was increasingly
difficult to reconcile...

00:26:25.840 --> 00:26:27.410
Krishnamurti‘s
vision of truth...

00:26:27.450 --> 00:26:30.980
with the forms and structures
not only of Theosophy,

00:26:31.060 --> 00:26:33.420
but all organized religions.

00:26:33.450 --> 00:26:36.320
His rejection of spiritual authority
was a threat...

00:26:36.360 --> 00:26:39.330
to the Society
and its life long members.

00:26:39.360 --> 00:26:41.410
There was open hostility,
as the organization...

00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:43.400
seemed to be pulling apart.

00:26:43.430 --> 00:26:47.300
Lines were drawn,
as some stood firmly with him,

00:26:47.340 --> 00:26:51.410
while others clung
to their cherished beliefs.

00:26:52.410 --> 00:26:54.350
Lady Emily Lutyens,

00:26:54.380 --> 00:26:57.260
who had been close to
Krishnamurti since 1911,

00:26:57.320 --> 00:26:59.870
shared the bewilderment
that many felt.

00:26:59.960 --> 00:27:01.870
“How strange it seems,”
she said,

00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:05.390
“that for 17 years we have
expected a World Teacher...

00:27:05.430 --> 00:27:09.430
and now when he speaks
we are hurt or angry.

00:27:09.460 --> 00:27:12.370
He is making us
do our own work...

00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:17.440
and that is the last thing
we expected of him.”

00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:25.320
In May of 1928,
the First Ojai Star Camp was held...

00:27:25.350 --> 00:27:28.420
under the evergreen oak trees
of Southern California.

00:27:28.450 --> 00:27:31.420
But with each new talk,
each meeting,

00:27:31.460 --> 00:27:35.390
the divisions
became more apparent.

00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:39.220
In failing health,
Annie Besant...

00:27:39.330 --> 00:27:42.300
was forced to cancel
her public engagements.

00:27:42.330 --> 00:27:46.310
Yet she still tried desperately
to reconcile theosophy...

00:27:46.340 --> 00:27:48.510
with what
Krishnamurti was saying.

00:27:48.540 --> 00:27:51.480
She quoted ancient Hindu scriptures
saying...

00:27:51.510 --> 00:27:55.420
all paths lead to the
same spiritual goal.

00:27:55.450 --> 00:28:00.420
But in spite of her efforts
the divisions widened.

00:28:01.390 --> 00:28:03.460
There were no gentle platitudes.

00:28:03.490 --> 00:28:06.860
There was to be no uniting
of existing religions.

00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:10.430
Ceremonies and organized religions,
he said, were a hindrance,

00:28:10.470 --> 00:28:13.400
a distraction from the truth.

00:28:14.110 --> 00:28:15.440
He offered no method.

00:28:15.470 --> 00:28:17.380
There were no steps to follow...

00:28:17.410 --> 00:28:20.550
no system that ensured
spiritual progress.

00:28:21.310 --> 00:28:24.320
His vision of truth
was absolute.

00:28:32.360 --> 00:28:34.900
In the Netherlands,
on August 3rd, 1929,

00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:36.430
at the Ommen Gathering,

00:28:36.460 --> 00:28:40.500
in the presence of Mrs. Besant
and over 3,000 Star members,

00:28:40.540 --> 00:28:44.340
Krishnamurti dissolved
the Order of The Star,

00:28:44.370 --> 00:28:48.480
freeing himself from all claims
made for him.

00:28:54.390 --> 00:28:56.490
I maintain that truth...

00:28:57.390 --> 00:28:59.390
is a pathless land.

00:29:00.330 --> 00:29:03.360
and you cannot approach it
by any path...

00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:04.560
whatsoever,

00:29:05.300 --> 00:29:06.470
by any religion,

00:29:07.300 --> 00:29:08.440
by any sect.

00:29:09.500 --> 00:29:11.440
That is my point of view.

00:29:11.470 --> 00:29:14.440
And I adhere to that absolutely...

00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:16.540
and unconditionally.

00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:19.310
Truth,

00:29:19.350 --> 00:29:20.580
being limitless,

00:29:21.450 --> 00:29:23.320
unconditioned,

00:29:23.490 --> 00:29:27.360
is unapproachable
by any path whatsoever.

00:29:27.390 --> 00:29:29.460
It cannot be organized.

00:29:29.530 --> 00:29:31.530
Nor should any organization
be formed...

00:29:31.560 --> 00:29:36.570
to lead or coerce people
along any particular path.

00:29:38.300 --> 00:29:41.310
If an organization be created
for this purpose...

00:29:41.340 --> 00:29:43.310
it becomes a crutch,

00:29:43.410 --> 00:29:45.700
a weakness, a bondage...

00:29:45.790 --> 00:29:47.920
and must cripple
the individual...

00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:49.750
and prevent him
from the discovery...

00:29:49.780 --> 00:29:54.320
of that absolute
unconditioned truth.

00:29:56.360 --> 00:30:00.330
You can form other organizations
and expect someone else.

00:30:00.360 --> 00:30:02.470
With that I am not concerned.

00:30:03.300 --> 00:30:04.530
My only concern...

00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:07.340
is to set man...

00:30:07.370 --> 00:30:08.540
absolutely...

00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:11.480
and unconditionally...

00:30:12.410 --> 00:30:13.580
free.

00:30:43.310 --> 00:30:44.450
All religions...

00:30:45.550 --> 00:30:49.550
have always said
there is only our path,

00:30:50.320 --> 00:30:51.490
our saviour,

00:30:53.320 --> 00:30:54.490
our system,

00:30:54.560 --> 00:30:56.430
our belief,

00:30:56.460 --> 00:30:57.560
our rituals,

00:30:58.500 --> 00:31:03.470
and only through those
you will find salvation.

00:31:04.340 --> 00:31:06.540
This has been the constant...

00:31:07.410 --> 00:31:08.510
song...

00:31:08.540 --> 00:31:10.480
of all religions.

00:31:14.380 --> 00:31:17.490
And I happen to have said...

00:31:17.520 --> 00:31:20.320
many, many years ago,
which is...

00:31:20.350 --> 00:31:21.490
which is so,

00:31:21.520 --> 00:31:23.360
which has so,

00:31:23.560 --> 00:31:25.330
true,

00:31:25.360 --> 00:31:28.330
that there is no path to truth.

00:31:28.370 --> 00:31:32.440
Truth according to them
is a fixed point.

00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:35.960
And if it is a fixed point
you can have a path...

00:31:35.990 --> 00:31:38.480
as many paths as you like.

00:31:38.510 --> 00:31:43.350
But if it is not a fixed point,
it’s a living thing, moving,

00:31:43.380 --> 00:31:46.480
– movement in the sense,
in the world...

00:31:46.510 --> 00:31:49.590
of no time, which is
a different matter –

00:31:50.360 --> 00:31:53.530
naturally there is no path to it.

00:31:54.330 --> 00:31:55.330
But you see,

00:31:55.360 --> 00:31:59.370
we don’t want
such a dangerous...

00:32:01.600 --> 00:32:03.340
outlook.

00:32:03.370 --> 00:32:05.610
We want everything fixed.

00:32:06.510 --> 00:32:10.550
We want every object to be final.

00:33:04.610 --> 00:33:08.450
I would like to go
into the question...

00:33:10.350 --> 00:33:12.450
of what does it mean,

00:33:13.590 --> 00:33:16.360
that a human being,

00:33:16.490 --> 00:33:18.490
should bring about...

00:33:19.530 --> 00:33:24.430
a deep,
profound change in himself.

00:33:27.500 --> 00:33:30.540
We are asking, is it possible...

00:33:31.410 --> 00:33:32.580
to bring about...

00:33:33.410 --> 00:33:37.520
a fundamental,
psychological revolution?

00:33:39.620 --> 00:33:42.390
A deep, abiding,

00:33:42.620 --> 00:33:45.360
irrevocable change,

00:33:45.530 --> 00:33:47.430
transformation.

00:33:49.460 --> 00:33:52.500
One has lived as a limited,

00:33:53.600 --> 00:33:55.470
contained,

00:33:55.540 --> 00:33:57.370
narrow,

00:33:57.570 --> 00:33:59.410
individual.

00:34:00.380 --> 00:34:02.550
And it is very, very difficult...

00:34:02.580 --> 00:34:04.450
to see the truth...

00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:08.350
that you are the rest of mankind.

00:34:08.590 --> 00:34:10.420
That in you...

00:34:10.449 --> 00:34:12.489
is the whole of man.

00:34:15.489 --> 00:34:16.630
That is,

00:34:17.460 --> 00:34:20.370
you as a human being...

00:34:20.530 --> 00:34:23.370
are part of the world.

00:34:25.510 --> 00:34:27.570
You are the world.

00:34:29.380 --> 00:34:30.480
Not an idea,

00:34:31.510 --> 00:34:34.380
not something
that intellectually,

00:34:34.420 --> 00:34:38.489
has been put together by reason,
and says "yes, quite right".

00:34:38.520 --> 00:34:42.590
But the reality of
the truth of it,

00:34:43.530 --> 00:34:50.370
that you represent, as a human
being, the rest of humanity.

00:34:51.370 --> 00:34:52.500
You suffer.

00:34:53.540 --> 00:34:55.370
You are anxious.

00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:58.410
You are uncertain, confused,

00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:01.380
miserable,

00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:04.350
fearful,

00:35:06.390 --> 00:35:07.620
hurt,
everything.

00:35:08.390 --> 00:35:11.490
And every human being has this.

00:35:12.490 --> 00:35:14.600
So your consciousness...

00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:18.530
is the consciousness of mankind.

00:35:20.470 --> 00:35:22.510
Now, it is possible...

00:35:22.570 --> 00:35:24.570
for sorrow to end.

00:35:25.540 --> 00:35:31.420
If there is the ending of sorrow
in one human being...

00:35:32.420 --> 00:35:35.520
who is the representative
of all humanity,

00:35:35.550 --> 00:35:41.490
that ending affects
the whole of consciousness of man.

00:35:42.560 --> 00:35:45.850
Don‘t accept
what we are talking about.

00:35:45.970 --> 00:35:48.470
Find out.
Test it.

00:35:50.570 --> 00:35:55.440
That means you have to be free
to observe.

00:35:59.510 --> 00:36:01.800
To observe without any wish,

00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:04.830
any longing, any pressure
— you know.

00:36:04.910 --> 00:36:09.490
To observe as you
observe a lovely flower.

00:36:13.460 --> 00:36:14.600
I wonder why...

00:36:15.570 --> 00:36:21.370
human beings throughout the world
don’t see this simple fact,

00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:25.650
that you cannot possibly
have peace on earth...

00:36:26.450 --> 00:36:30.480
if you are
nationalistically divided.

00:36:33.450 --> 00:36:35.590
We want order outside,

00:36:36.520 --> 00:36:38.390
in the world.

00:36:38.430 --> 00:36:40.630
Politically, religiously,

00:36:41.430 --> 00:36:43.570
economically, socially.

00:36:43.600 --> 00:36:47.590
In our relationship with each other,
we want order.

00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:49.540
We want some peace.

00:36:49.570 --> 00:36:52.580
We want some understanding.

00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:54.610
And...

00:36:57.380 --> 00:37:02.490
if the inward psychological
state is orderly,

00:37:03.590 --> 00:37:05.460
not conflicting,

00:37:05.490 --> 00:37:07.490
not contradicting,

00:37:08.560 --> 00:37:12.430
if that state in consciousness
is quiet,

00:37:12.470 --> 00:37:13.530
steady,

00:37:13.560 --> 00:37:15.400
clear...

00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:19.610
then you can bring about order
in the world.

00:37:19.640 --> 00:37:21.640
Now what we are trying to do...

00:37:22.380 --> 00:37:24.480
is try to bring order...

00:37:24.610 --> 00:37:26.480
legislatively,

00:37:26.620 --> 00:37:28.490
nationally,

00:37:28.550 --> 00:37:29.650
and so on.

00:37:30.390 --> 00:37:31.710
Order out there...

00:37:31.820 --> 00:37:33.460
in the world.

00:37:33.590 --> 00:37:37.500
Which has been proved
over and over again...

00:37:37.530 --> 00:37:41.600
that it totally brings about
disorder.

00:37:42.500 --> 00:37:44.500
That is why we are saying,

00:37:44.540 --> 00:37:46.670
the speaker – I am saying,

00:37:47.210 --> 00:37:48.510
that...

00:37:48.640 --> 00:37:51.450
without inward order,

00:37:52.380 --> 00:37:53.580
that is, inward...

00:37:54.380 --> 00:37:56.550
order in consciousness,

00:37:57.620 --> 00:37:59.620
which is in a mess,

00:37:59.650 --> 00:38:02.460
which is in a contradiction,

00:38:02.490 --> 00:38:06.630
without bringing about
order inwardly, psychologically,

00:38:06.660 --> 00:38:11.500
you cannot possibly
have order outwardly.

00:38:13.500 --> 00:38:15.510
And the crisis is there.

00:38:15.540 --> 00:38:18.410
We think the crisis is,

00:38:18.510 --> 00:38:19.650
national,

00:38:20.510 --> 00:38:23.520
economic, social, and so on.

00:38:23.650 --> 00:38:26.420
The crisis is not out there.

00:38:26.450 --> 00:38:28.560
The crisis is really inward.

00:38:28.590 --> 00:38:32.530
And we are unwilling to face that.

00:39:17.410 --> 00:39:18.650
It is our...

00:39:19.680 --> 00:39:23.550
education, way of living,
and tradition and so on,

00:39:23.590 --> 00:39:27.520
that something can be given
to somebody else.

00:39:27.560 --> 00:39:30.660
Jesus can give you salvation.

00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:35.570
Or a guru can save you.

00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:41.440
Or your wife can help you.

00:39:46.580 --> 00:39:49.400
That may be an old...

00:39:49.490 --> 00:39:52.290
worn out tradition to
which we are clinging.

00:39:52.420 --> 00:39:55.690
It may be a wrong approach
all together.

00:39:57.430 --> 00:39:59.560
You have understanding...

00:40:00.430 --> 00:40:01.560
and I haven’t got it.

00:40:01.600 --> 00:40:04.600
And you are conditioned...

00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:06.400
– excuse me –

00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:08.470
You are conditioned...

00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:14.510
in the idea
that you can give it to me.

00:40:14.550 --> 00:40:15.680
Right?

00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:20.550
That may not be the fact at all.

00:40:24.620 --> 00:40:28.460
Psychologically, inwardly,
do you depend on somebody?

00:40:28.500 --> 00:40:33.670
You say, please help me
to be free of my arrogance.

00:40:39.410 --> 00:40:41.580
Or in your relationship...

00:40:41.610 --> 00:40:44.580
you see the arrogance in you.

00:40:45.420 --> 00:40:46.580
It‘s gone.

00:40:49.620 --> 00:40:53.590
In our relationship with each other,

00:40:54.560 --> 00:40:57.430
and I am observing myself.

00:40:57.460 --> 00:41:01.430
And in that observation I discover
that I am arrogant...

00:41:01.460 --> 00:41:03.500
in our relationship.

00:41:03.670 --> 00:41:09.540
So I am not dependent for you
to point out to me my arrogance.

00:41:09.580 --> 00:41:12.510
I am already aware of it.

00:41:13.680 --> 00:41:16.550
This is tremendously important sir.

00:41:16.580 --> 00:41:19.660
Nobody can give me intensity,

00:41:20.460 --> 00:41:22.530
the sense of beauty.

00:41:22.660 --> 00:41:24.660
I’m taking [that].

00:41:25.630 --> 00:41:27.460
Then...

00:41:27.660 --> 00:41:30.430
I am on my own,
you follow?

00:41:30.460 --> 00:41:32.670
Not isolated and all that.

00:41:32.700 --> 00:41:36.570
Then I have to work to find out.

00:41:40.550 --> 00:41:45.490
Then in the very working of it
I have got the intensity.

00:41:45.620 --> 00:41:48.490
When I discard the tradition,

00:41:48.520 --> 00:41:51.460
in which I have been brought up...

00:41:51.490 --> 00:41:54.560
that is to depend on somebody...

00:41:55.430 --> 00:41:59.570
and when I discarded it,
I have to work at it,

00:41:59.700 --> 00:42:03.570
or I go down the drain,
either way.

00:42:03.600 --> 00:42:04.670
If I’m...

00:42:05.580 --> 00:42:07.440
If I discard that,

00:42:08.550 --> 00:42:11.480
I have already got the sense of...

00:42:11.620 --> 00:42:13.650
energy, intensity.

00:42:15.720 --> 00:42:19.660
Then I am not dependent
on anybody.

00:42:56.500 --> 00:42:59.500
Can I observe myself...

00:42:59.640 --> 00:43:02.440
through relationship?

00:43:03.580 --> 00:43:05.550
Can I know myself...

00:43:05.650 --> 00:43:08.480
fundamentally, basically,

00:43:08.520 --> 00:43:11.490
all the reactions, all the...

00:43:12.490 --> 00:43:14.720
the nuances, the subtleties...

00:43:15.460 --> 00:43:16.590
of myself,

00:43:16.660 --> 00:43:18.590
in relationship?

00:43:21.560 --> 00:43:25.540
Now, one’s relationship
with another...

00:43:25.570 --> 00:43:27.640
is based on memory.

00:43:29.610 --> 00:43:30.710
Right?

00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:33.510
Would you accept it?

00:43:33.610 --> 00:43:39.250
On the various images, pictures,
conclusions I have drawn...

00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:43.690
about you and you
have drawn about me.

00:43:45.460 --> 00:43:48.560
The various images
that I have about you,

00:43:48.600 --> 00:43:53.570
wife, husband, girl or boy
or friend and so on.

00:43:53.630 --> 00:43:57.510
So there is always image making.

00:43:58.610 --> 00:43:59.610
Right?

00:44:00.510 --> 00:44:05.620
This is simple, this is normal,
this actually goes on.

00:44:05.650 --> 00:44:10.620
When one is married,
or lives with a girl or a boy...

00:44:11.520 --> 00:44:17.660
every incident, every word,
every action creates an image.

00:44:19.500 --> 00:44:20.500
No?

00:44:21.630 --> 00:44:24.540
Are we clear on this point?

00:44:24.700 --> 00:44:26.340
Don’t agree with me please.

00:44:26.430 --> 00:44:29.480
I am not trying to
persuade you to anything.

00:44:29.510 --> 00:44:32.550
But actually you can
see it for yourself.

00:44:32.610 --> 00:44:34.720
A word is registered.

00:44:35.450 --> 00:44:38.490
If it is pleasant you purr.
It is nice.

00:44:38.520 --> 00:44:41.620
If it is unpleasant,
you'll immediately shrink from it.

00:44:41.660 --> 00:44:43.630
And that creates an image.

00:44:43.660 --> 00:44:45.630
The pleasure creates an image.

00:44:45.660 --> 00:44:49.600
The shrinking, the withdrawal
creates an image.

00:44:49.670 --> 00:44:53.740
So, our actual relationship
with each other...

00:44:54.510 --> 00:44:56.540
is based on the...

00:44:58.510 --> 00:45:01.510
on various subtle forms...

00:45:01.550 --> 00:45:05.720
of pictures, images and
conclusions.

00:45:09.160 --> 00:45:11.660
So when there is an image like that,

00:45:11.690 --> 00:45:13.690
she has and you have,

00:45:13.720 --> 00:45:17.530
then in that there is division.

00:45:19.570 --> 00:45:23.610
And then the whole conflict begins.

00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:27.540
Right?

00:45:27.570 --> 00:45:31.550
Where there is division
between two images,

00:45:31.580 --> 00:45:34.690
there must be conflict, right?

00:45:36.520 --> 00:45:39.000
The Jew, the Arab,
the Hindu, the Muslim,

00:45:39.030 --> 00:45:41.490
the Christian, the Communist,

00:45:41.530 --> 00:45:43.730
it is the same phenomenon.

00:45:45.500 --> 00:45:47.500
It is a basic law,

00:45:48.500 --> 00:45:54.710
where there is division between
people there must be conflict.

00:45:55.540 --> 00:46:00.520
Can all this image making,

00:46:00.650 --> 00:46:02.520
tradition...

00:46:02.650 --> 00:46:05.620
all that end,

00:46:05.660 --> 00:46:08.630
without a single conflict.

00:46:09.490 --> 00:46:11.730
You understand my question?

00:46:14.670 --> 00:46:17.570
Are you interested in this?

00:46:19.610 --> 00:46:21.740
What will you pay for it?

00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:25.680
That's all you can do.

00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:30.620
By paying something
you think you will get it.

00:46:33.620 --> 00:46:35.450
Now how can this...

00:46:36.130 --> 00:46:37.500
mechanism of...

00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:40.660
image making...

00:46:41.730 --> 00:46:45.740
– not just image making, the desire
for certainty, the tradition,

00:46:45.770 --> 00:46:48.640
the whole structure of that –

00:46:48.670 --> 00:46:50.710
can that end?

00:46:51.680 --> 00:46:52.680
Right?

00:46:53.640 --> 00:46:56.610
Are you asking that question?

00:47:12.600 --> 00:47:15.740
Who is there to tell you
what to do?

00:47:16.600 --> 00:47:17.740
See this,

00:47:18.640 --> 00:47:22.710
when you are children,
the parents tell you what to do.

00:47:22.750 --> 00:47:27.720
That same mentality is cultivated
right through life.

00:47:28.520 --> 00:47:30.520
In school you are told
what to do,

00:47:30.550 --> 00:47:32.560
in college you are told
what to do,

00:47:32.590 --> 00:47:33.620
in university.

00:47:33.660 --> 00:47:35.660
Right through life...

00:47:37.660 --> 00:47:39.600
somebody tells you...

00:47:39.630 --> 00:47:41.900
this is right, this is wrong,
this should be done,

00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:44.700
that should not be done.

00:47:44.990 --> 00:47:46.640
Which means what?

00:47:46.670 --> 00:47:48.510
There is no...

00:47:49.610 --> 00:47:51.610
self-investigation.

00:47:52.680 --> 00:47:58.020
There is no saying
I am really the rest of mankind.

00:47:58.180 --> 00:47:59.260
Which you are!

00:48:00.690 --> 00:48:03.660
Because every human being
right through the world,

00:48:03.690 --> 00:48:06.530
goes through a great deal
of suffering,

00:48:06.560 --> 00:48:10.530
a great deal of pain,
a great deal of anxiety,

00:48:10.570 --> 00:48:12.600
uncertain, confused,

00:48:12.670 --> 00:48:14.510
insecure,

00:48:14.570 --> 00:48:17.540
like you,
like the rest of the world.

00:48:17.570 --> 00:48:19.540
We don’t accept that.

00:48:19.580 --> 00:48:20.580
We think,

00:48:20.610 --> 00:48:26.490
my suffering is totally separate
from other people’s suffering.

00:48:26.590 --> 00:48:27.750
And so...

00:48:27.780 --> 00:48:30.590
we have this mentality...

00:48:32.590 --> 00:48:33.690
that...

00:48:34.600 --> 00:48:39.500
I must have somebody
to tell me what to do.

00:48:40.740 --> 00:48:46.640
Right from the Pope,
down to the poor Parish Priest.

00:50:14.510 --> 00:50:19.590
Really one should ask a question,
“Why human beings...

00:50:19.620 --> 00:50:22.760
– though they have
extraordinary knowledge –

00:50:23.520 --> 00:50:27.560
and yet nobody is willing to change.
Why?”

00:50:28.660 --> 00:50:33.600
Is it that they find security in...

00:50:34.540 --> 00:50:37.510
in the habit, in the pattern?

00:50:37.570 --> 00:50:38.810
Your pattern, my pattern,

00:50:39.510 --> 00:50:42.360
the Christian pattern,
the Hindu pattern, the Buddhist.

00:50:43.630 --> 00:50:46.750
They are all patterns,
a way of thinking.

00:50:47.650 --> 00:50:48.650
So,

00:50:49.590 --> 00:50:52.590
patterns may be
dangerous altogether,

00:50:52.620 --> 00:50:55.560
because they divide people.

00:50:55.790 --> 00:50:59.670
And religions have divided people.

00:50:59.700 --> 00:51:01.570
Their rituals,

00:51:01.630 --> 00:51:05.510
their beliefs,
their faith, their saviors.

00:51:05.940 --> 00:51:09.610
Now, to break away
from all that...

00:51:09.680 --> 00:51:11.810
requires intelligence,

00:51:12.610 --> 00:51:16.620
requires investigation, study.

00:51:16.680 --> 00:51:19.760
Nobody is willing to do that.

00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:08.050
From childhood...

00:53:08.550 --> 00:53:11.690
we are taught comparison.

00:53:12.550 --> 00:53:16.590
We say "you must be
as clever as your brother".

00:53:16.730 --> 00:53:21.730
Or in school you better get
better marks than somebody else.

00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:25.770
So you are always being compared.

00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:28.740
And you learn to compare.

00:53:28.810 --> 00:53:30.670
Don’t you?

00:53:30.770 --> 00:53:33.710
I say, don’t compare...

00:53:34.610 --> 00:53:36.750
yourself with anybody.

00:53:41.050 --> 00:53:42.770
Right?

00:53:43.100 --> 00:53:44.760
You heard that?

00:53:45.630 --> 00:53:46.760
Right?

00:53:48.430 --> 00:53:49.800
Now,

00:53:50.260 --> 00:53:52.570
why do you compare?

00:53:54.300 --> 00:53:57.240
To find out who is better.

00:53:57.270 --> 00:54:00.310
To find out if you are better.

00:54:01.340 --> 00:54:05.380
That is, you compare yourself
with her.

00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:08.790
She is much more intelligent,

00:54:09.180 --> 00:54:11.980
more bright, more clever,

00:54:12.100 --> 00:54:15.480
and so
in comparing yourself with her...

00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:17.360
you become dull.

00:54:21.370 --> 00:54:24.300
But if you don’t compare,
are you dull?

00:54:24.340 --> 00:54:25.370
No. It just...

00:54:25.710 --> 00:54:29.680
Just listen, listen,
listen carefully.

00:54:30.740 --> 00:54:36.790
In examinations in schools,
all through life they are comparing.

00:54:36.820 --> 00:54:40.590
Tell your teacher, don’t compare.

00:54:44.690 --> 00:54:48.770
The relationship between
the teacher and you...

00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:52.320
she knows more
than you do, right?

00:54:52.410 --> 00:54:54.210
Academically.

00:54:54.260 --> 00:54:55.770
Academically!

00:55:01.750 --> 00:55:03.620
By Jove!

00:55:10.420 --> 00:55:14.630
Academically
you know more than he does.

00:55:15.060 --> 00:55:19.740
Now, she is teaching you
about biology...

00:55:20.740 --> 00:55:22.610
and...

00:55:24.270 --> 00:55:26.780
she is giving you marks,

00:55:26.810 --> 00:55:27.810
right,

00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:31.720
and gradually helping you
to pass that examination.

00:55:31.750 --> 00:55:37.720
Now, can she teach you
without the idea of examination?

00:55:39.730 --> 00:55:41.880
How do you test yourself, sir?

00:55:41.980 --> 00:55:44.760
– In what?
– Without examination.

00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:48.800
How do you test yourself,
without examination?

00:55:49.170 --> 00:55:51.260
You mean to say that an examination
is going to tell you...

00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:53.170
how you have learned?

00:55:53.240 --> 00:55:56.680
– Maybe, sir.
– Listen, you are too quick.

00:55:56.710 --> 00:55:57.990
Find out.

00:55:58.100 --> 00:56:01.620
You are all so used
to examinations.

00:56:01.650 --> 00:56:03.220
That is your tradition.

00:56:03.300 --> 00:56:05.470
That is your habit.

00:56:05.650 --> 00:56:07.470
And when you question
that, you say...

00:56:07.570 --> 00:56:10.620
“Yes, what shall I do?”,
you get nervous,

00:56:10.670 --> 00:56:12.460
frightened.

00:56:14.600 --> 00:56:17.770
When I was learning,
when I was at school in England,

00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:21.640
I never passed one examination.

00:56:22.710 --> 00:56:23.840
Right?

00:56:25.610 --> 00:56:28.820
I went through all the examinations
but I couldn’t...

00:56:28.850 --> 00:56:33.690
I sat in the hall
without writing a thing.

00:57:45.740 --> 00:57:49.610
Are you interested in all this?

00:57:51.350 --> 00:57:54.720
What do you consider is life?

00:57:57.820 --> 00:58:01.620
Your life, what is your life?

00:58:02.630 --> 00:58:06.700
What is that life
that you daily live?

00:58:08.630 --> 00:58:11.800
Dependence, attachment, pain,

00:58:12.740 --> 00:58:16.740
annoyance, anger,
irritation, sorrow.

00:58:17.680 --> 00:58:20.850
You know all this don’t you?
This is your daily life.

00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:22.820
Going to the temple...

00:58:22.850 --> 00:58:26.590
and doing some kind of noise
with the bell,

00:58:26.620 --> 00:58:27.820
and doing puja,

00:58:29.690 --> 00:58:30.820
doing yoga.

00:58:32.790 --> 00:58:36.600
That we say, that is our life.

00:58:36.700 --> 00:58:40.600
Then what do you mean
by a religious life?

00:58:40.640 --> 00:58:41.770
You tell me.

00:58:42.810 --> 00:58:45.010
What does religion mean to you?

00:58:45.110 --> 00:58:46.830
The word.

00:58:47.780 --> 00:58:50.850
The word religion...

00:58:51.750 --> 00:58:55.720
means:
to gather all your energy.

00:58:57.290 --> 00:58:59.790
That's all it means.

00:58:59.830 --> 00:59:01.290
Do you understand sir?

00:59:01.380 --> 00:59:04.600
To gather all your energy...

00:59:05.730 --> 00:59:07.800
to enquire, to find.

00:59:10.740 --> 00:59:11.740
Right?

00:59:12.540 --> 00:59:16.780
Not all the nonsense
of temples, rituals, and...

00:59:16.850 --> 00:59:20.820
all this either, sir,
what you put on your head.

00:59:21.020 --> 00:59:23.720
You see how you all agree?

00:59:23.820 --> 00:59:26.720
The meaning of the word,

00:59:26.860 --> 00:59:29.830
that means gathering...

00:59:31.860 --> 00:59:33.730
every...

00:59:34.500 --> 00:59:38.600
particle of energy that you have,

00:59:39.770 --> 00:59:43.610
to enquire into...

00:59:43.710 --> 00:59:47.650
what is truth
and what is reality.

00:59:48.750 --> 00:59:52.650
To enquire into
what is meditation.

00:59:52.720 --> 00:59:57.830
To enquire into why human beings
live the way we are living.

00:59:58.330 --> 01:00:01.730
To enquire
if there is an end to sorrow.

01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:04.870
To enquire into what is love.

01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:09.740
Whether one can live
without any effort...

01:00:10.170 --> 01:00:11.540
and control.

01:00:11.620 --> 01:00:15.610
All that is implied in that word.

01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:19.850
A religious life...

01:00:20.890 --> 01:00:22.760
implies...

01:00:22.820 --> 01:00:25.790
being a light to yourself.

01:00:28.730 --> 01:00:29.860
Which means...

01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:33.900
no outside authority.

01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:38.710
We are talking about...

01:00:38.770 --> 01:00:42.650
having no spiritual authority.

01:00:44.380 --> 01:00:47.650
Including me, the speaker.

01:00:52.220 --> 01:00:54.320
Have you any authority,

01:00:54.450 --> 01:00:56.730
spiritual authority?

01:01:01.700 --> 01:01:06.840
You have had various gurus,
Mahatma Gandhi, Mr. Gandhi,

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and so on, all
the way from the 6th,

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5th, 4th, 3rd century...

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down to the present.

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And where are you,
having been led,

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for these thousands years?

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Where are you?

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Or you want to be still led?

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So I am asking,

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we are asking you...

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courteously,

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if you have thrown away
your traditions?

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Traditions being
nationality,

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your caste,

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your beliefs,

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your...

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rituals,

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going to the temples.

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All that.

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Have you thrown it away?

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No?

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No.

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Then how can you find out
what a religious life is...

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when you are blind?

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So you want to find out
what a religious life is...

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and yet won‘t leave
your little enclosure.

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Right?

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You are tied to your tradition.

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And you want to enquire into
something, that demands...

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a mind that is capable,

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a heart that can really love.

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Without that,

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freeing yourself from...

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your tradition, your culture,
your belief,

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how can you find out anything?

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You can repeat
what The Gita said...

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or the Upanishads
or some other book.

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What value has it?

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I was told the other day–

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some of the gurus
now give lectures...

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or talks on the Gita.

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Is that right?

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And there are hundreds and
thousands who go and listen to it.

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What value has it?

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What are we all playing at sirs?

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Apparently one doesn’t see
one’s own tragedy.

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Right, sir?

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Psychologically, why should I accept
what somebody else says...

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when I realize...

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that I am the rest of mankind?

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Mankind is me.

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The ‘me’ is the history of mankind,
the book of mankind.

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If I know how to read it...

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I don’t depend on anybody.

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So, can I,

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without distortion,

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without prejudice,

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without choice,

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be aware of the content
of this book,

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which is me?

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To read it very carefully,

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never...

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distorting it,

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requires a great deal
of attention,

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a great deal of energy,

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intensity,

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immediacy.

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And we are not willing
to do all that because...

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we think
that is too tiresome.

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“Tell me quickly what to do
and I will do it.”

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Or I may not do it.

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Generally, I may not do it.

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And I personally think that...

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this psychological guidance
by another,

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whether it is the
religious guidance,

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or the guidance
of the psychologist,

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is totally wrong.

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Because then you are making
humanity into children,

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who have to be guided,
told, encouraged.

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We are all grown up human beings
after...

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5 or 10 million years.

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Through negation...

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of what is not,

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the positive exists.

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That is,

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love is not desire.

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Love is not pleasure.

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Love is not a remembrance.

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It is as strong as death,

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as vital as life.

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And you see,

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love can only exist
when there is no suffering.

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Suffering is personal.

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Suffering is also global.

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Man has suffered endlessly.

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And he tries
to combine that suffering...

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with what he calls love.

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And so there is always
this contradiction,

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this duality.

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Whereas if you deny all that...

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that which is not love,

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then the other thing
has its immense beauty,

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great strength,
and vitality of its own.

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Then why do you have to
learn mathematics...?

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Because part of Mathematics...

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is order.

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2 + 2 + 2 make 6.

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That's order.

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Right?

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In sequence, it must be.

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So mathematics, much more
complicated and all that,

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is a series of...

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sequences and order.

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Right?

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Are we...

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aware of our responsibility
to another?

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If one has a family,

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wife, children,

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are you responsible
for those children?

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That you care.

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That you have love for them.

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Are you concerned...

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that they become...

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healthy good citizens?

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If you have children, do you
feel responsible for those children?

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To see that they have
right education...

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so that they won’t be killed
in a war?

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They won’t become...

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mediocre.

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Or you have no time at all for them.

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Because you have to go out
and earn money,

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as the man, and the mother
and the father,

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as they do now, and have
very little time for the children.

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That is a fact.

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So where is your responsibility?

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Oh, you are not interested
in all this.

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So one asks,

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what are you interested in?

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I think that is
a legitimate question.

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You can talk about love, freedom
and the beauty of the sky,

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but it is only an outside interest.

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But basically...

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what are we interested in?

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Ourselves

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That’s right.

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You are interested in yourself.

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Right?

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Wait sir, perfectly right.

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Each one is interested in himself.

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On that...

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our society, culture, religion
is based.

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Right?

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Each one...

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interested...

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in himself.

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His progress,

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– all the rest of it.

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Do you, as a human being,
realize...

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that we are all one...

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basically?

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Not as an idea,

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but as a fact.

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Because when you go to India...

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you see the misery,
the confusion, the anxiety,

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the despair of people...

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running to their petty little gods,
whom they have created.

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You come to Europe,
it's exactly the same thing.

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They've got their Jesus, their Christ.
You follow?

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You come here
it is exactly the same.

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You understand sir?

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First to realize,

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not verbally...

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but in your heart, in your blood,
in your whole thinking,

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that human beings
right through the world,

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go through the same agonies
that one goes through.

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The loneliness, the despair,
the depressions,

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the extraordinary uncertainty,

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insecurity,

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whether they live...

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10,000 miles away
or 2,000 miles or here.

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They are all psychologically
bound together.

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If one realizes that...

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profoundly...

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in your guts, in your blood,
in your heart, in your mind...

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then you are responsible.

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You have heard all this,
you as a human being.

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Why don’t you change?

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What prevents you?

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If each one of us
asked that question,

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not...

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verbally,

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or merely intellectually,
as an entertainment,

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but asked that question
most seriously and deeply,

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what's your answer?

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What's your answer
to this problem...

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that human beings
have lived this way...

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for millennia upon millennia?

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Why haven’t they changed?

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Why haven’t you,
who are listening now,

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why haven’t you changed?

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You know if you don‘t change
what the consequences are.

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You will be national,
nationalistic.

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You will be tribal, insular,

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isolated and therefore...

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having no relationship
globally.

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Fighting, fighting, fighting.

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Building up more and more armaments
to destroy each other.

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Now...

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why don’t you, if you are
at all serious in this matter,

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why don’t you ask yourself
that question?

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Why am I,

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a human being...

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who has been through all this,

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why haven’t I changed?

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What would be your answer?

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After all,

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life is one.

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One global
unitary movement.

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So in the same way...

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our consciousness
is common to all mankind.

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Now, if I radically change,

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surely it affects the rest
of the consciousness of man.

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Now,
why don’t you change?