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Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Men\N0:03\Ndream of women\N0:05\Nwomen dream themselves being dreamt of\N0:08\Nmen look at women\N0:10\Nwomen watch themselves being looked at the\N0:14\Nwell\N0:30\Nto\N0:34\Ndo\N0:47\Nwomen constantly meet glances which act like news\N0:51\Nreminding them how they look my homage minimum\N0:56\Nbehind the big runs you an email\N0:59\Nsometimes the grounds the medium is the island\N1:02\Nreflected back from a real man I'll\N1:16\Nyou\N1:57\Nthe\N2:13\Nto\N2:20\Na woman is always accompanied except when 2011\N2:24\Nperhaps even then\N2:25\NI had an image asylum\N2:28\Nwhile she's walking across a poem weeping in the desert like\N2:32\Nshe cannot avoid the envisaging self walking\N2:36\Na weeping from the earliest childhood cheese torte and persuaded\N2:40\Nto survey herself continually the\N2:43\Nchance to survey everything she is everything she does\N2:46\Nbecause how she appears to others and particularly hard it is to men\N2:49\Nthe is a crucial importance the\N2:52\Npartisan only sort of success I'll\N3:00\NDon\N3:05\N0\N3:06\Ndo\N3:07\Ndo\N3:10\N0\N3:11\NE in\N3:15\Na woman in the culture of privileged europeans\N3:18\Nis first and foremost site to be looked at what kind of site\N3:23\Nis revealed in the average European oil painting\N3:27\Nthe reporters that women as a reporter's men\N3:30\Nbut in one category of painting women with the principal\N3:33\Never coming subject that category was the nude\N3:37\Nin the news that European painting we can discover some of the\N3:42\Ncriteria and conventions by which women would charge\N3:45\Nwe can see how women was seen what then is in you\N3:57\Nin his book on the new would Kenneth Clarke says that\N4:00\Nbeing naked is simply being without clothes\N4:03\Nthe new would according to him\N4:06\Nis a former Oct I would put it differently\N4:11\Nto be naked is to be oneself to be new food\N4:16\Nis to be seen naked by others and yet not recognized for oneself\N4:21\Na nude has to be seen as object\N4:24\Nin order to be unused in the European oil painting\N4:30\Nnakedness is not taken for granted as an archaic\N4:33\NOct nakedness is a site for those who addressed\N4:38\Nthat is why man is painting which way to mark the end of the period I'm\N4:41\Nconsidering\N4:42\Nis so profound the comment on all the works which proceeded\N4:45\Nthe story begins\N4:48\Nwith the story Adam and Eve as told in Genesis and when the woman saw that the\N4:54\Ntree was good for food\N4:55\Nand it was a delight to the eyes and the tree was to be desired\N4:59\Nto make one wise she took the fruit they're all and did eat\N5:02\Nshe gave also and her husband with her and he'd\N5:06\Nand I is them both were opened and they knew that they were naked\N5:10\Nand the Lord God called on to the man and said unto him\N5:14\Nwhere art thou he said I heard my voice in the garden and I was afraid\N5:19\Nbecause I was naked and I hate myself unto the woman\N5:23\Ngot said I will greatly multiply by sorrow\N5:27\Nand I conception in sorrow that I shall bring forth children\N5:31\Nand I desire to be to my husband and he shall rule\N5:34\Nover the two things are striking about this story\N5:41\Nthey become aware being naked because\N5:44\Nas a result to beating the Apple each sees\N5:47\Nthe other differently nakedness is created\N5:50\Nin the mind of the beholder the second striking fact\N5:55\Nis that the woman is blamed and is punished\N5:58\Nby being made subservient to the man in relation to the woman\N6:02\Nthe man becomes agent of God in medieval art\N6:08\Nthe stories often illustrated seen following see\N6:12\Nas in A Streetcar to in during the Renaissance\N6:16\Nthe narrative sequence disappears and the single moment\N6:20\Nwhich is nearly always depicted is a moment shape\N6:23\Nthe couple left figleaves\N6:27\Nor make a modest gesture with their hands but now\N6:30\Ntheir shame is not so much in relation to one another as to the spectator\N6:35\Nit is the spectators looking which aims them\N6:38\Nlater as painting became more secular\N6:42\Nmany other subjects offered the opportunity continues\N6:46\Nbut always in the European tradition the new\N6:49\Nimplies and awareness being seen\N6:53\Nby the spectator they are not\N6:56\Nnaked as they are they are naked\N6:59\Nas you see them\N7:09\Noften as with the favorite subject Susanna and the elders\N7:12\Nthis is the actual theme a picture we join the elders\N7:17\Nto spy on her she looks back at us\N7:22\Nlooking at a sometimes the woman suzanna\N7:27\Nlooks at herself in a pictured to herself\N7:31\Nhow men see her she sees herself\N7:34\Nfirst and foremost as a site which means\N7:38\Nsite for men nice the Miller became a symbol\N7:42\Nthe vanity of women get the mail hypocrisy in this is blatant\N7:46\Nyou paint a naked woman because you enjoy looking at a\N7:50\Nyou put in there were in hand and you call the painting vanity\N7:55\Ndoes Molly condemning the woman whose nakedness you have depicted\N7:59\Nfor your own pleasure and us incidently\N8:02\Nrepeating the biblical example by blaming the woman\N8:06\Nthe judgment of Paris\N8:09\Nwas another favorite mythological subject with the same in written idea\N8:13\Nup man looking at naked women and judging Paris\N8:17\Ntowards the Apple to the woman he finds most beautiful\N8:20\Nduty in this context is bound\N8:23\Nto become competitive the judgment of Paris\N8:27\Nis transformed into the beauty contest aesthetics when applied to women\N8:33\Nare not as disinterested as the word beauty\N8:36\Nmight suggest I don't want to deny\N8:42\Nthe crucial part that see place in sexuality\N8:45\Nbut there's a great difference between being seen as oneself\N8:48\Nnaked or seeing another in that way at a body\N8:51\Nbeen put on display to be naked\N8:55\Nis to be without disguise to be on display\N8:59\Nis to have the surface of one's own skin the has a one's own body\N9:03\Nturned into a disguise a disguise which\N9:07\Ncannot be discarded amongst the tens of thousands of European oil paintings at\N9:12\NNewlands\N9:13\Nperhaps twenty 30 exceptions\N9:16\Npaintings in which the artist seen the woman the field\N9:20\Nas herself this rubin's\N9:23\Nthis rembrandt\N9:30\Nthis George 2.2 these paintings are as personal as love times\N9:37\Nand that character is quite distinctive most you'd seen oil paintings\N9:43\Nhave been lined up by their painters for the pleasure\N9:46\Nthe male spectator owner who will assess\N9:49\Nand judge them as sites that nudity is another former dress\N9:55\Nthey are condemned to never be naked with their clothes off\N10:00\Nthey are as formal as with their clothes on\N10:05\Nthose who are not judged beautiful are not\N10:08\Nbeautiful those who are are given the prize\N10:12\Napplies is to be held that is to say\N10:16\Nto be available Charles the Second\N10:19\Ncommission to this secret painting from Lee it's like hundreds of others\N10:24\Nit might be Venus and Cupid but in fact\N10:27\Nit was a portrait one of his mistresses Nell Gwyn it shows how passively looking\N10:32\Nat the spectator\N10:33\Nstaring at her naked her nakedness\N10:38\Nis not an expression happened feedings it is only a sign\N10:42\Na submission to his demand painting when he shows it to others\N10:49\Ndemonstrates the submission his guests in\N10:52\Nhim by contrast in another tradition\N10:56\Nnakedness is a celebration active six your luved\N11:00\Nas between two people the woman as activism and\N11:03\Nthe actions that each absorb the other\N11:07\Nin oil painting\N11:11\Nthe second question or a second person who matters\N11:14\Nis a stranger looking at the picture compared the expression\N11:18\Nthese two women when the model for what is considered a masterpiece by EIN\N11:25\Nthe other until paid model for photograph in a girlie magazine\N11:29\Nof these two just the expression\N11:36\Nlook RTC it seems to me that in each pair\N11:42\Nthe expression is remarkably similar and his expression\N11:46\Nresponding with calculated charm to the man\N11:49\Nwhom she knows is looking at a although she doesn't know him it is true that\N11:54\Nsometimes a painting includes a male lover\N11:56\Nbut the woman's attention is very very\N12:00\Ndirected towards him she looks away from him she looks out of the picture\N12:04\Ntowards he who considers himself a true lover\N12:07\Nthe spectator this painting was sent as a present from the Grand Duke of loans\N12:14\Nthe King of France the boy kneeling on the cushion and kissing a woman\N12:18\Nis Cupid she's penis but the way her body is arranged has nothing to do\N12:23\Nwithout kissing a body is arranged the way it is\N12:26\Nto display it to the man looking at the picture the picture is made\N12:31\Nto appeal to kids sexuality has nothing to do with her sexuality\N12:35\Nthe conventional not picking the half on a woman's body\N12:39\Nhelps towards the same and hair is associated with sexual part with passion\N12:43\Nthe woman sex or passion needs to be minimized\N12:47\Nso that the spectator may feel that he has a monopoly\N12:50\Nsuch passion there were paintings\N12:54\Nwhich depicted male lovers sees that exist but they were mostly private\N12:58\Nsimi pornographic pictures in most paintings which were painted to be seen\N13:03\Nrather than hidden the only rival to the male spectator\N13:07\Nis a cupid how extraordinary it is\N13:10\Nthe pictorial symbol a passion was a small boy\N13:14\Nfor a similar reason women in the European onto the art painting\N13:18\Na seldom shown dancing they have to be shown\N13:22\Nlanguid exhibiting minimum energy they are there to feed\N13:27\Nan appetite not to have any of their own the appetite\N13:32\Nwas theoretically gargantuan\N13:35\Nthe absurdity of this male factory\N13:39\Nalthough it was not seen as upset then reached its peak\N13:42\Nin the public academic Oct at the 19th century prime ministers discussed\N13:48\Nunder paintings like this when one of them felt he'd been outwitted\N13:52\Nhe looked up for consolation\N13:55\Nthe new in European oil painting is usually presented as an\N14:00\Nideal subject it is said to be an expression from the European\N14:04\Nhumanists do it I don't want to reject entirely the truth to this\N14:10\Nbut I've tried to add to it starting off from a different viewpoint\N14:14\Ndealer who believed in the ideal nude\N14:18\Nsort to this ideal could be constructed\N14:21\Nby taking the shoulders one body the hands of another\N14:24\Nthe best another and so on\N14:28\Nwas this humanist idealism\N14:31\Nor was it was out have an indifference to who any one person\N14:35\Nreally was do these paintings\N14:38\Ncelebrate as we normally talked the women within them\N14:42\Nor the mail wire\N14:45\Nis that sexuality within the frame\N14:49\Nor in front of it I showed the program\N14:53\Nas you have seen it up till now 25 women\N14:57\Nit began to seem absurd that the only images you were seeing\N15:00\Nwomen silent newt so I showed it to them\N15:04\Nand ask them to comment to comment not so much on the program but rather on the\N15:07\Nquestions raised by it\N15:09\Nabove all on the question of how men see women or have seen them in the past\N15:14\Nand how this influences the way women see themselves today\N15:18\Nwe have an English course will happen image sensitive issue\N15:21\Nimage but I wonder how much\N15:25\Nthe sort of classical European painting\N15:29\Nhas shaped that image in my own case I find it quite impossible when I look at\N15:33\Nthe paint institution\N15:34\Nyour film I can take them seriously I cannot identify with them because they\N15:39\Nare so immensely\N15:40\Nexaggerated police you know the fasten home to some\N15:43\Nsecondary sexual characteristics release norms\N15:47\NPress great be to beastin bottoms and a huge things like that\N15:53\Nand they just aren't real whereas with photographs\N15:57\NI'm you can you can feel that is potentially that's possibly me although\N16:01\Nthe it probably isn't but these these\N16:05\Nnearly all the paintings you have shown I'll what is\N16:08\Ncalled idealized am and therefore\N16:12\Nthey are to me very unreal in connection with\N16:16\Nwith any deep down image that I might have myself\N16:20\Nand in connection with any deep down pleasure that I might have\N16:23\Nin looking at another female body they don't give me that\N16:27\Nengine tall can moms painting\N16:31\Nbut the on the they don't mean human beings to me\N16:35\NI'm the image that I compare myself with is the photograph\N16:39\Nbecause it's with photographs that I've been encouraged to think for myself\N16:43\Nthis weight is essentially advertising me that's contributed to this\N16:47\Nand consequently I find it extremely interesting to go back\N16:50\Nand think newt's in this way because I've never done sir\N16:54\Nhaving seen the film I have no doubt that the same thing plants\N16:59\Nand do you find that they knew it in painting under the\N17:02\Nin the same way yes\N17:05\Nwill you come get any information from it minute\N17:09\Nsnow guide to execute a one-time animation is lacking\N17:13\Noh well activity unit dynamism anything\N17:18\Nit is has someone sees you in that something later\N17:21\Non I'm glad you showed them any picture\N17:24\Nbecause I always find is extreme shocking\N17:28\Nbecause the men address and women a naked\N17:32\Nand he seems to be some the whole situation is a humiliating\N17:35\Nposition and women are will be\N17:38\Nam and I think this is whole scheme teams and\N17:42\Nat most people have had and something to nightmares about\N17:46\Nlenses peaks nothing incidents\N17:49\Nand this seems to me one and picked\N17:52\NI'm very interesting thing you said in the film was\N17:55\Nabout how nudity\N17:58\Nwas really a kind of disguise it wasn't the real person themselves and free\N18:04\Nbut it was just another comment wearing and worse than a garment in a sense\N18:08\Nbecause\N18:09\Nsomething that you can take off this comes I think\N18:12\Nfrom nudity being combined with the polls\N18:16\Nand that's inevitable if you're going to have a painting over model\N18:20\Nbomb in a way\N18:25\Ni think thats we're always dress always dressing up for a part\N18:29\Nalways on putting on a uniform of one kind or another\N18:33\Nand I think women do this almost more than men have only begun doing he said\N18:37\Nhe recently\N18:38\Nwomen are always getting to show the kind of character\N18:42\Nwhat they want to percent the mother the working woman\N18:46\Nthe pretty young chick are and nudity\N18:49\Nis a uniformed in a way for\N18:53\NI'm ready now for sexual pleasure you see\N18:56\Nand so it doesn't YouTube you can't come you can't identify being nude\N19:02\Nwith being free only just recently read\N19:05\Nthat look eastward do which describes them\N19:09\Nway in which room is reduced for sexy special mention\N19:13\Nwith to complete object and what struck me in all that\N19:16\Nbook as the most impressive image was the fact that\N19:20\Nshe was told that she was never\N19:23\Nto touch her breasts to entirely clothes from a\N19:26\Nall too close or to put her legs together\N19:30\Nand so the whole point about her stance all the time with cheese available\N19:35\Nand this the sense being available the senses waiting for other people\N19:39\Nis the antithesis in action and\N19:42\Neat unit just like the home the book street be right there Smith\N19:46\NTony hasn't run you know he's finished lotioning\N19:49\Nand you feel this whole situation number when you talk to you say\N19:52\NI stay in seven nights a week waiting for somebody to rain\N19:56\Nthe concept availability implies facility because\N20:00\Nif you simply want somebody else to act when you contact\N20:04\Nyes it's is lack and you awake\N20:07\Nwhen the man tapped mmm kisses him\N20:10\Nrising and I'm made it an excuse to get yourself\N20:15\NI think you need to shine\N20:19\Nthere waiting\N20:22\Nto him yes yes could I say something about narcissism\N20:28\NI think that both men and women old\N20:31\Nbut in different senses and I think that one\N20:35\Nin sometimes I'd I have the impression\N20:38\Nmen and women no tremendously narcissistic concussion from each other\N20:43\Nby their images themselves but it whereas the woman's\N20:46\Nimage herself is derived directly from other people\N20:51\Nmirror you're talking about a man's image of himself\N20:55\Nis derived from world that is\N20:58\Nit's the world gives him back his image because he acts in it\N21:02\Nand and women are drawn to him as a source\N21:06\Na central activity and as the\N21:09\Na salsa were me since he is in the world the fact she values her\N21:14\Nis important and and so because they're supercenters\N21:18\Nnarcissus different and the woman's is essentially\N21:23\Nonly related to the other person she's much more passive position\N21:27\Nmentioned yes do you see\N21:32\Nyou see narcissism essentially a and\N21:36\Na negative or positive well\N21:41\Ni think thats very difficult to answer but\N21:44\Nin the sense that which is related to identity\N21:47\NI'm it supposed to film and it seems to me that what women Indian men\N21:53\Nthe times they have sent to the identity that\N21:56\Nthere is it something in them which is important to them other them simply what\N22:00\Nother people think\N22:01\Nthem and I think that that think is the product to their interaction with\N22:06\Nworld people and its so true\N22:09\Nit's almost as if through this interaction actually build up a stall\N22:13\Nall were sense it themselves\N22:16\NI'm which it which is a constant I mean it can't be lost\N22:21\Nbut because the woman doesn't go out a nap she doesn't create the store\N22:25\Nshe waits only for the present interaction\N22:29\Nthat and that can go that can just ended any moment\N22:33\Nup\N22:40\Nstrap occur\N22:43\Nclassicism is he sold\N22:46\Nparamount's way they\N22:50\Na should\N22:54\Nbut a.m. this\N22:57\Nother question which is contained within it yes\N23:02\Nand it is\N23:06\Nthis sort itself delight at the Perth\N23:09\Nwhether it's an all in\N23:13\Nlie what they're doing relationships\N23:17\Nwith men or women and\N23:21\Nit a thing met as Shin and is not only a kind\N23:27\Nin a thing I which with it\N23:30\Nbut is it really after in by which\N23:34\Nto gay in relationships with you know I'm context\N23:39\Nwell but you can't gain any other way bit\N23:42\Nits when you have some have been made some countries\N23:48\Nnow yet you easily\N23:51\Nnaturally so compulsively girl to\N23:55\Nwhatever is going on you now we're not\N23:59\Nchild that 10 northern\N24:02\Nwith people to be on p with\N24:05\Nmansions 3 this will you\N24:09\Ngirl a.m. her\N24:12\Nand then only grant you as\N24:16\Non you make this kind\N24:19\Nabsolutely necessary\N24:22\Ncontact with people but I do think\N24:27\Nthat the soda essence\N24:31\Nself tonight as kinda possible thing\N24:35\Nin the modern world them something that fewer women have remained\N24:39\Nand won't months is\N24:43\Nthe other compulsion not the\N24:46\Nthe compulsion to make\N24:49\Ncontact with the world as you are living in it\N24:52\Nmy said just me the people next door\N24:56\Nprint I simply pockets going\N24:59\Nitem\N25:02\Nsure about the delight I think it's very HH thing\N25:05\NI'm I know as is for several reasons\N25:09\NI became aware film I have never consciously look at myself in the mirror\N25:13\Nand see myself as I am\N25:16\NI only seen image that I want I know\N25:19\Nmy children notice it if I make up my face I put on them\N25:22\Nquestion if I from adolescence on\N25:26\Nif I see myself naked Miller not for metals naked I told myself is a new\N25:30\Nand I think this campaign I G from having being tailed\N25:34\Nmajor his culture his beauty\N25:38\Ncapital be and course up to a point from advertising\N25:43\Nto much more the painting am\N25:46\Nthat you use you think the female body\N25:50\Nis beautiful I am beautiful object if not I have to do something about it\N25:54\Nam and therefore the painful part narcissistic\N25:58\Nhitting the feeling inadequate see am\N26:01\Nnow this businesses always posing in the mirror\N26:05\NI think wonder absolutely automatically and without\N26:08\Nis it if you actually catch shoot up in america\N26:12\Nam by chance not deliberately because you didn't list\N26:16\Nhad a ball but because there's one in street you capture so\N26:20\Nin in a shop window if the two men shot because in some ECU\N26:24\Nas you are which windblown untidy\N26:27\Nbadly dressed tired and so on don't see the pose little\N26:31\Nand I think this is what happens to women but they always trying to measure\N26:35\Nup to the\N26:35\Nerotic images projected\N26:39\Nthat are some paintings and I think\N26:42\Nat this moment particular one painting where there's a woman\N26:45\Nwho is wary gone she's not nude but it is a garment sew\N26:50\Nloose so comfortable so easy\N26:55\Nand is my idea very much on of\N26:58\Nof want a picture of a woman might be like\N27:02\Nit I think it's actually before your period on this is so long ago and it\N27:05\Nsits by Lauren city\N27:07\Nit comes in the good and bad government its fresco it's very very old\N27:11\Nyou know and it is a picture of a woman we supposed to represent\N27:15\Npeace it's quite extraordinary but she could be one\N27:18\Nof the liberators are trying to the liberators young women\N27:22\Ntoday she's at ease she is relaxed\N27:26\Nshe's not me any part at all she is\N27:30\Nable to combine occasional thoughts\N27:34\Nand was dreaming and she's she might spring into action\N27:38\Nany moment and I for me\N27:41\Nshe she has much much more to do with\N27:46\Nwith with nakedness with oneself with the truth about himself and he number\N27:50\Nyouth C\N27:56\Non\N28:04\Nand the third party way to seeing is here at the same time tomorrow\N28:08\Nnext tonight and you Graham Dixon is at the Tate Modern print exhibition by Max\N28:12\NBeckmann\N28:14\N0
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