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Right, good afternoon

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It is the lightning talks sessions at
DebConf Hamburg 2018

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We've got seven speakers, and I guess
we'll just get going

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Starting with Tobias Platn???,
talking about Debian on Power9.

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Yesterday I, hm no, on friday,
I received my new Power9 machine.

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A Talos 9 (II).

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And it has an IBM Power9 processor

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So, the only distro that I know that will
work is Debian.

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Then, this is a new PowerPC 64 bits
architecture,

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that can run in little-endian mode.

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I downloaded a Debian installer.

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First, I chosed the stable version, but

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that crashed during install.

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And, then I retried a different version,
a daily version.

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And this one, which is based on Buster,
correctly installed.

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I can even have a graphical environment,
working out of the box.

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And, the installer then complained that
there is no boot partition

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for older PowerPCs, and this boot partition is
not needed, since the TalosII

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has a newer systems starting with power7
used petitboot.

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So, that needs to be fixed in the Debian
installer,

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that it doesn't produce the warning
on Power machines.

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And now I have a working Debian
installation,

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which I can use.

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(thanks) [applause]

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Thank you very much, that was very quick.

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Next up is Thimothée Jaussoin,

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talking about Movim, the XMPP social
platform.

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Give him a moment to get set up.

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I think it's a bit better this way.

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Who already heard about the platform Movim?

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OK, so we have a couple of people that
know about the project here.

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Just to present you what I ??? could be a
parallel universe

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but is actually the current universe we're
living with.

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Lots of different chat platofrms.

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The same thing on social networks.

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We keep reinventing the wheel
all the time.

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We don't have this problem with e-mails

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hopefully actually the e-mail standards
came way before before all of those

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proprietary solutions

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So we have ??? and Google and Microsoft
are still using SMTP, IMAP, for now.

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So everything is compatible, and we have
a lot of clients on top of that.

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But for chat, and social networks, it's
not the case.

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So the idea of Movim is to build a
social platform.

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In there, we can put a little couple of
ingredients.

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First, it needs to be Open-Source, for the
transparency, for the fact that you can

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have feedback and improvements,
for the security part.

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I think that you guys here know about the
advantages of Free Software, and

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especially on the communication part,
on social networks, but it's not enough.

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We also need to be in control, actually
in this social network.

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So it need to be simple and transparent

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on the UI but also on the protocol level.

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On the really deep below stacks.

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So we'll need to have a strong and reliable
encryption,

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so don't reinvent also an encryption
- talking about Telegram, here -

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And, yeah, need some trusts in sights
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I mean a community, and not a company
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to take care of all of your communications.

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But it's not enough.

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It needs to be decentralized. Because
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even if it's opensource,

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if it's only one instance, you have to
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deploy your instance, you would like to
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you can only, sometimes, trust only
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Decentralization also brings robustness

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So that's too many times that actually
one server is failing, think Signal

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had an issue recently, about this kind
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The issue was with the Amazon servers,
the whole thing didn't worked

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for a couple of hours.

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And then, resist against censorship and
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Same thing with Telegram, I think in
Russia.

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I'm talking more about the IM part, but
it's also applicable to social networks.

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It's exactly the same thing, just that the
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So, you need these steps but

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all those platforms here

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(I just made this conference 3 years 
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So i might talk about different sorts
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There is communication between those
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starting to come in, especially between
Diaspora and Mastodon,

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but there is still a lot of work to do
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So, the secret ingredient is about
compatibility, about extensibility.

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Don't try to reinvent the wheel again,

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don't try to create another social network,

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or another IM platform that will have all
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So, I mean a long-term vision.

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And, actually, the secret ingredient
is standardization, in these things.

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So, this standard should
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support news feeds, communities, IM, chatroom
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video conferencing security, bridges to the Web.

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And then it will be real-time.

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And, 1 minute?

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This protocol actually exists, it's called
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So the goal of the project is:
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- and doing a lot of innovation on
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So, server-side it's a simple XMPP
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(PHP, MySQL PostgreSQL)

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And user-side, it's also super simple
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it's responsive, it's light, it's fast and
is built actually for small communities.

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There are pods all around the world.

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You're really invited to deploy your own
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There is already ten thousands accounts
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30 languages

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Debian packages coming soon

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Thanks to the help of some people
in this room.

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And, that's it !

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So if you want more information,
everything is on the website,

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you can join the chat room.

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Or, the twitter.

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[applause]

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Thank you very much.

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Next up is Thomas Lange, Mrfai,
talking about dracut.

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Today, I'm not talking about FAI
but about dracut.

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dracut is a replacement for initramfs
which is used by most other distributions.

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If I'm correct, only Ubuntu and Debian
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All other distributions already moved
to dracut.

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Today I want to show how you can get
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without deinstalling initramfs-tools.

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Ben Hutchings did some patches, I think
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What you have to do, there's a package
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which does not conflict with
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I have a virtual machine.

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So, debian/fai…

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On this machine, I will now install
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and that's it.

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We still have one initrd.

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And now I can say…

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Oh no, first I have to copy the dracut version
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a new initrd with dracut.

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dracut uses the usual hooks or module
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it does not use the hooks from the initramfs
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a lot of hooks, so for example if you have
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you do not need the hooks for
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because dracut already includes this
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After generating a new initrd,
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we have now two entries in the grub.

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One with the old initrd which was created
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the default one is the initrd which is
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and here you have the boot entry for
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and it boots up and works.

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What we need is that more people are
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In your environment, on your hardware,
does dracut work?

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We had a discussion, like 5 years ago, if
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When will Debian switch from initramfs-tools
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And still there's no real need because
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but I think in the long term, we will
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so please help us, write bug reports

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or just give it a try, if it works for you
or not.

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That's it.

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[Applause]

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Next up is TecKids talking about
their organization.

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Ok, those of you who attended the
Skolelinux talk already heard about TecKids.

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I want to give a few details about what
else we do.

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TecKids is a non-profit organization based
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we're working internationally and

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we are completely centered around free
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concerning free software in education in
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young people.

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More than 50% of our active members
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There's an "s" missing, sorry.

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They are of course not minor but they are
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Sorry, kids, if you are watching this.

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They're minors and we are a fully
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like in the FOSS spirit

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and the most important thing is that we
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of the organization, both operational and
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and working with free software projects,
giving presentations.

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Normally some children would be here but
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schooltime, this was not so easy.

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So what do we do.

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First of all, we want to get children
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in technical stuff and also in free software.

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This we do by running youth programs
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like the FrOSCon where normally around
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use Debian and all that cool stuff and
learn what they can do with it.

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We do peer learning, so those children
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are very interested, they start tutoring
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Of course we have non-tech fun together,
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there is a social program with staying
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all that stuff that helps building
a community.

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Those who are even more interested can get
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organizing events, preparing talks, looking
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helping others get a free messenger
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working on HowTo, how to spread the word
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And then ??? at conference and raise
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this is our presentation team from
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and they are presenting the whole
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at our SchulFrei booth which is
"School free" in German.

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They are presenting all projects that are
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care for free software education.

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If you are interested in that, maybe
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want to have children or are involved
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there are quite a few things that you
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You can help working on projects, you
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in coding or organisational activities.

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many many software projects do have
some involvement with children,

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even indirectly, like a web browser
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such applications are used by children and
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and they may have other views on that,

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so it's very important to at least think
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teachers as well do with this software.

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Pardon? One minute, thank you.

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We need help with presentations at
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so not every time the same people have to
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there's much more manpower needed.

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And of course, every ngo, every non-profit
organization is lacking money,

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so if you have already donated to Debian
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you might want to give your money to
the future, which is children.

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Don't forget donating to Debian.

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I don't know if I am shot if I don't say that.

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[laughter]

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And there's also liberapay, it's a free
donation platform,

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just have a look at it and if you want to
help us, actively just go to our web site,

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find some communication means or just
talk to someone you find

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at any conference who is wearing this
shirt with our logo.

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Thank you.

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[Applause]

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Next up is Thomas Koch, talking about
containers.

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Almost ready.

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We do have one more space at the end
if anybody feels, you know,

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inspired to tell us all the things.

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I mean, we did have one very last minute
sign up.

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Meanwhile, I guess I can make
announcements while I'm here.

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Front desk will be available again
after lunch, as will t-shirts.

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Anybody who hasn't had a t-shirt yet,

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basically, if you signed up, you're allowed
to get a t-shirt, come see me,

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yes, free of charge,

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come see me at front desk when it's
open again after lunch.

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Because I do know some people been
reticent to come up and, you know,

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ask one…

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I've probably given effectively
a lightning talk on not giving…

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I think so.

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Right, here we go.

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Ein, zwei, ok.

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Hello, I'm Thomas Koch, I work for Google,

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I work in support for Google Container
Engine, Google kubernetes engine.

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Who knows what Kubernetes is?

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Oh, so few, ok.

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It's a thing to orchestrate containers
on many many nodes,

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up to thousands of nodes.

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It was started by Google, open sourced
by Google in 2015 I believe.

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First contributor was Red Hat, it is 100%
open source, it's written in Go

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and by now it has won the market of
managing containers on large nodes.

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I just was at the KubeCon in Copenhagen
with 4300 participants and

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every company you can imagine has
an offering about Kubernetes.

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Just some logos of companies that use or
contribute to Kubernetes

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and even more logos and these slides are
outdated, so there are even more.

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Kubernetes, you have some masters that
control kubelet on every node.

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A kubelet can start containers and can
set up networking stuff

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and can set up volumes and the basic
concept of computation,

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the basic primitive is a pod.

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A pod is one to many containers running
together in one environment

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so that you have the possibility to have
sidecars running beside your main containers

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that does additional stuff.

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It has proven useful in Google's internal
??? container management engine

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that you want to have certain containers
always running containers

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and sharing resources.

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An other important primitive is volumes.

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Kubernetes can manage your storage and
provision storage to be accessible

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to your containers.

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You can combine many parts that provide
the same service to be accessible

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under the same IP address and so have
failover enable like this

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and of course then you have controlers
that scale your services,

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scale down your services, restart failed
pods

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or drain nodes that you want to take away

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And my question now is what is the role
of Debian in a world where

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Kubernetes becomes more and more popular
even if not that many of you have heard about it

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I believe that Kubernetes will become
even more popular

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and even as a Debian Maintainer, I'm
enthusiastic about how easy it becomes now

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to run your stuff in Kubernetes.

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But you only need a very minimal host
operating system to install Kubernetes

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on your servers, afterwards you need
a bare image, a base image for your container

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which is normally also a very minimal image

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and you don't do "apt-get install apache2"
anymore to have a web server,

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you take an apache container image and then
you extend this image and

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put your app onto this image, so you don't
need an apache Debian image anymore

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in such a world.

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Will we still need this in Debian?

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However, nothing is perfect.

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On KubeCon, I also saw companies offering

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"Oh, we scan you container images for
outdated libraries" and

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you have long times to update your cluster
because all the containers need to be stopped

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you download new images, you start whole
new environments

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so there are optimizations possible there

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and people are wondering

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"Ok, where does my stuff come from?
Is it from a trusted source?"

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And my crazy thoughts, maybe it's an
opportunity here

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if Debian would become a source of trusted
binaries or even container images.

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Thank you.

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[Applause]