[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.12,0:00:18.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MIKE KELLEY: Right now I'm working\Non about the 30th tape Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.52,0:00:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a projected series of 365. Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.48,0:00:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so it's supposed to be one\Ntape for every day of the year. Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.24,0:00:44.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ rhythmic drumming and clapping ] Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.09,0:00:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ women squeal ] Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.32,0:00:58.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ rhythmic drumming and clapping ] Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.64,0:01:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I... I knew by the time\NI was a teenager Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.12,0:01:03.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I was going\Nto be an artist. Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.46,0:01:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was no doubt about that. Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.88,0:01:06.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was nothing else\Nfor me to be. Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.44,0:01:10.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think coming out\Nof Catholicism, Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.34,0:01:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a real interest\Nin ritual. Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.52,0:01:15.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, ritual is beautiful, Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.62,0:01:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I never was a believer. Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.90,0:01:26.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yet... Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.93,0:01:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think my interest in art\Nall along has been Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.00,0:01:33.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in trying to develop a kind\Nof materialist ritual. Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.64,0:01:37.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I see all art as being\Na kind of materialist ritual. Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.32,0:01:47.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I first started working\Nwith stuffed animals, Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.64,0:01:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was responding to the... a lot\Nof the dialogue in the '80s Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.48,0:01:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about commodity culture. Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.12,0:01:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I was really surprised Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.88,0:01:59.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that when everybody looked\Nat these works I made, Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.28,0:02:01.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they all thought\Nit was about child abuse. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.12,0:02:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, that wasn't anything\NI expected Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.76,0:02:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not only did they think\Nit was about child abuse, Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.92,0:02:09.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they thought it was\Nabout my abuse. Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.96,0:02:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I said, well,\Nthat's really interesting. Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.80,0:02:14.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to go with that. Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.24,0:02:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to make all my work\Nabout my abuse, Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.04,0:02:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not only that--\Nabout everybody's abuse, Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.52,0:02:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like that this\Nis our shared culture. Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.52,0:02:32.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the presumption Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.43,0:02:37.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that all motivation is based on some kind\Nof repressed trauma. Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.00,0:02:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My work is very reactive. Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.88,0:02:42.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd make something, Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.56,0:02:44.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I get a response\Nthat I'm not... Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.52,0:02:46.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I... I had no idea\NI was going to get-- Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.76,0:02:49.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't reject it; I embrace it. Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.36,0:02:50.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I run with it, Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.18,0:02:53.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know. That tells me what to do. Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.22,0:02:57.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I decided to go back\Nto my originating trauma, Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.44,0:02:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was my student training, Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.08,0:03:01.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so I took all these drawings Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.96,0:03:05.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I did in college\Nas an undergraduate Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.96,0:03:07.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are perversions Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.52,0:03:10.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Hoffmanesque\Ncompositional principles, Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.32,0:03:14.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I relearned\Nto paint that way. Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.08,0:03:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I did this series. Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.12,0:03:23.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the first series\Nof paintings I did Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.16,0:03:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this regressive manner. Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.48,0:03:28.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're called\N"The Thirteen Seasons." Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.00,0:03:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're oval-- I broke\Nfrom the rectangular form Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.12,0:03:33.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the oval, again,\Nhas no end. Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.16,0:03:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so it's eternal. Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.72,0:03:38.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's eternally recurring abuse. Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.16,0:03:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this kind\Nof trauma literature, Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.28,0:03:48.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the parts you can't remember\Nis called "missing time" Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.36,0:03:49.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you recover it. Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.60,0:03:58.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I work so much\Nwith various kinds of tropes-- Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.24,0:04:00.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're image tropes\Nor music tropes Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.04,0:04:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or performative tropes-- Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.08,0:04:04.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it interests me to try Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.60,0:04:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to bring them into my system Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.51,0:04:11.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in certain ways, you know, \Nincorporate them. Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.52,0:04:16.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's part of this whole process\Nof working through things. Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.00,0:04:24.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Things start simple\Nand get more complex. Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.56,0:04:29.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sense always comes\Nafter the fact in my work-- Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.00,0:04:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make it, at first glance,\Nacceptable, Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.60,0:04:36.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like I've seen some of that\Nbefore or I understand that. Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.58,0:04:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it has to operate\Non multiple levels. Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.32,0:04:42.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has to be available Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.52,0:04:45.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the laziest viewer\Non a certain level... Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.33,0:04:52.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then on a more sophisticated\Nviewer as well. Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.08,0:05:02.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think what I make\Nis beautiful. Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.12,0:05:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's beautiful,\Nbecause terms are confused Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.08,0:05:08.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and divisions between categories\Nstart to slip. Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.04,0:05:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that produces, um... what\NI think is a sublime effect, Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.68,0:05:15.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or it produces humor, Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.05,0:05:18.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and both things interest me. Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.23,0:05:21.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I... I... Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.71,0:05:26.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess I'm interested in a kind of \Nsublime play or sublime humor. Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.03,0:05:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—Well, behind... behind...\Nbehind the mule is a man Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.28,0:05:32.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then the fake horse. Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.66,0:05:34.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—Oh, that's better. Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.32,0:05:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's even better.\N—Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.52,0:05:37.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You got a man in there to fill\Nup the gap-- that's better. Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.96,0:05:39.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—The man is\Nthe pitchfork demon? Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.91,0:05:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KELLEY: \NIt's the pitchfork guy. Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.88,0:05:42.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—Stan? It's Stan,\Nif you could get him. Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.46,0:05:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.04,0:05:45.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—And tell him not to swing\Nhis pitchfork around. Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.44,0:05:46.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—Yeah, do something\Nlike that. Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.60,0:05:48.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Stomp, stomp, stomp.\N—Come on in. Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.67,0:05:50.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ whinnies ]\NAnd then go. Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.13,0:05:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KELLEY:\N"Day is Done"-- the project Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.16,0:05:53.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm working on right now-- Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.96,0:05:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is kind of built around a mythos Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.52,0:05:57.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that relates to\Nan earlier sculpture I did Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.56,0:05:59.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called "The Educational Complex," which is Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.60,0:06:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a model of every school\NI ever went to Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.52,0:06:05.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plus the home I grew up in, Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.28,0:06:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with all the parts\NI can't remember left blank. Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.68,0:06:14.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—I think I want to try it Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.88,0:06:17.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when these cheerleaders\Nget to about here, Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.24,0:06:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to give me a big scream,\Nyou know like, "Whoa!" Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.76,0:06:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like that's the most wonderful\Nthing you've ever seen. Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.48,0:06:26.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—The audience should do a big scream?\N—Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.13,0:06:27.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—Should they raise\Ntheir arms like that? Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.52,0:06:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—No, no, just... just...\Nwell, let me... Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.16,0:06:29.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know, let me see it. Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.96,0:06:31.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's hear a big "Wha!" Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.43,0:06:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ALL:\NWhoo! Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.84,0:06:34.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—Yeah, arms is good. Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.60,0:06:36.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lift the arms up. Whoa! Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.20,0:06:38.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ALL:\NWhoa! Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.49,0:06:40.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ drum cadence playing ] Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.54,0:06:41.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—Action.\N—Action. Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.54,0:06:44.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ drum cadence playing ] Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.63,0:06:45.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KELLEY:\NAll these Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.56,0:06:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,videos are based\Non high school yearbooks. Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.92,0:06:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not because\NI have any interest Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.44,0:06:52.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in high school\Nor high school culture, Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.44,0:06:53.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's one of the few places Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.76,0:06:57.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you can find photographs\Nof these kinds of rituals. Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.71,0:06:58.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—WOMAN:Cut. Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.23,0:06:59.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Stand this way\Na little bit. Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.30,0:07:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, let's go for it. Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.56,0:07:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MAN:\NOkay. Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.20,0:07:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's really close. Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.72,0:07:05.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It won't be the same. Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.94,0:07:06.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, it's fine. Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.98,0:07:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The... the image is the same. Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.36,0:07:09.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MAN:\NThe image is... Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.83,0:07:10.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KELLEY:\NThe relationships Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.64,0:07:11.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are the same. Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.00,0:07:15.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Almost all of this comes\Nfrom writing, Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.36,0:07:16.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and... Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.39,0:07:18.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then later\NI tried to say, well, Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.83,0:07:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how can it be\Nvisually interesting? Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.60,0:07:25.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has narrative elements, but it's... it's not\Nstraight narrative. Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.70,0:07:30.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KELLEY:Cut. Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.27,0:07:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ laughs ] Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.86,0:07:34.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WOMAN:\NGood job, Stan. Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.56,0:07:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the writing is...\Nis associative, Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.68,0:07:42.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it comes\Nfrom my own experience, but Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.84,0:07:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's very hard to,\Nsay, to disentangle memories Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.48,0:07:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of films or books or cartoons\Nor plays from "real experience." Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.76,0:07:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It all gets mixed up. Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.88,0:07:57.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in a way I don't make\Nsuch distinctions. Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.96,0:08:00.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I see it all\Nas a kind of fiction. Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.68,0:08:03.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—I can't walk by myself. Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.12,0:08:04.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not responsible. Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.68,0:08:06.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KELLEY:\NWhen I was younger, Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.80,0:08:10.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all my writing was generated\Nfor performance work. Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.30,0:08:17.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—I'm the sailor, but I don't have\Nsea legs, sea legs. Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.84,0:08:22.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I don't walk\Nand I don't talk. Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.07,0:08:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ whistles ] Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.94,0:08:29.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this project is\Nvery much a way for me Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.76,0:08:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get back into writing and-- Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.48,0:08:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I don't have the time\Njust to do it. Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.84,0:08:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to work it\Ninto my work somehow. Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.44,0:08:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like music. Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.76,0:08:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't have time\Nto play music anymore, Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.28,0:08:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I had to make a project\Nwhere I had... Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.04,0:08:45.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that had to have music in it, so\NI forced myself to make music. Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.10,0:08:54.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Kelley playing eerie melody\Non electric organ ] Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.45,0:08:56.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KELLEY:\NNever had any musical training. Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.38,0:08:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I grew up in a household where there was really Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.71,0:09:02.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very little interest in music, and Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.01,0:09:05.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they didn't teach music\Nin school. Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.96,0:09:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, uh... I Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.40,0:09:10.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,grew up on rock and \Nroll music, and all Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.90,0:09:12.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the musicians I knew\Nwere self-taught. Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.16,0:09:17.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been playing noise music\Nfor many, many years. Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.74,0:09:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this project's\Nreally different Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.28,0:09:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because this is like\Nno other music I've ever done, Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.44,0:09:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's all based\Non really, Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.32,0:09:25.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh... typical forms, but Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.20,0:09:29.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know enough about that\Nwhere I can fake it. Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.68,0:09:32.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, I mean, I don't know what I'm doing. \NSay, I can't say, oh, that's this chord Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.88,0:09:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that's this note,\Nbut I know what it sounds like. Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.68,0:09:38.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we can piece it\Nall together Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.28,0:09:39.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's believable. Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.28,0:09:43.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—Am I going to hear\Nthe, uh... Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.74,0:09:44.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the... Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.76,0:09:46.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,orchestra sample too? Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.83,0:09:47.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—MAN: Uh, yeah, you'll hear, Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.56,0:09:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you'll hear\Nwhat you just did. Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.70,0:09:49.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.36,0:09:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—Here we go. Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.92,0:09:53.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KELLEY:\NWith the computer, Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.76,0:09:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can do everything ourself. Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.44,0:09:57.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't need to get\Nan orchestra; Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.44,0:09:58.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can... Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.88,0:10:03.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do all the editing here. \NWe can make films by ourselves. Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.20,0:10:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ cymbals resonating ] Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.72,0:10:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ drum cadence playing ] Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.78,0:10:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ALL:\NWhoo! Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.24,0:10:27.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ drum cadence playing ] Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.90,0:10:30.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KELLEY:\NMy dream is to perform it live. Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.14,0:10:35.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MAN:\NLet the final procession begin. Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.93,0:10:36.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KELLEY:\NSo that Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.68,0:10:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the whole thing\Nis performed Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.84,0:10:40.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like, say, in a 24-hour period, Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.25,0:10:43.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the day stands for the year. Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.22,0:10:48.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ drum cadence continues ] Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.50,0:10:51.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very much\Nlike a passion play. Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.02,0:10:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Though a somewhat formalized\Nand ridiculous passion play, though its Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.68,0:10:57.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its ridiculousness\Nis purposeful. Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.16,0:11:04.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CAST ( harmonizing ):\N♪ Mary...♪ ♪ Mary...♪ Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.59,0:11:10.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ Mary...♪ Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.34,0:11:14.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ Mary...♪ Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.81,0:11:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ Mary...♪ Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.48,0:11:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ Mary...♪ Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.12,0:11:30.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ Mary...♪ Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.53,0:11:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KELLEY:\NI think that's Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.68,0:11:34.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the joyfulness of it. Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.32,0:11:40.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then it's a black humor;\Nit's a mean humor, Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.76,0:11:42.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it's a critical joy. Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.70,0:11:45.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's, you know... Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.21,0:11:46.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's negative joy. Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.89,0:11:49.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ laughs ] Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.64,0:11:53.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that's art, I think,\Nyou know, for me at least. Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.12,0:11:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what separates it Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.24,0:11:56.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the folk art\Nthat I'm going to--that Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.09,0:11:59.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I still think\Nthe social function of art Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.24,0:12:00.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that kind of... Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.30,0:12:02.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,negative aesthetic. Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.50,0:12:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Otherwise there's\Nno social function for it. Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.58,0:12:10.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ women squealing ] Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.45,0:12:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ upbeat jazzy music playing ]