WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:19.060 00:00:19.060 --> 00:00:25.090 Heraldo: OK! Vamos a la charla. Así que.., la siguiente es Andrea Jungaberle. Ella es NOTE Paragraph 00:00:25.090 --> 00:00:35.050 hablar de las drogas y de cómo estas afectan la psiquiatría. Oh, esa es una palabra difícil. 00:00:35.050 --> 00:00:43.700 ¿Por qué no lo haces? Ahora lo sé. Y la pregunta es, después de la... 00:00:43.700 --> 00:00:46.600 es "Verbot" en inglés? Andrea Jungaberle: Prohibición. 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:50.480 Prohibición, correcto, después de la prohibición en los años 70, no se piensa mucho 00:00:50.480 --> 00:00:58.589 sobre cómo funcionan estas drogas y cómo podrían mejorar la psiquiatría, así que 00:00:58.589 --> 00:01:04.109 ahora todo el mundo se pregunta, ¿Es está la cura magica ? No lo creo. Pero más 00:01:04.109 --> 00:01:07.713 de esto por Andrea. Bueno, una cálida bienvenida, por favor. 00:01:07.713 --> 00:01:14.110 00:01:14.110 --> 00:01:19.550 Hola a todos. Estoy muy feliz de estar aquí y de poder hablar con ustedes 00:01:19.550 --> 00:01:23.470 sobre un tema que es importante para mí y creo que es muy importante para muchas personas 00:01:23.470 --> 00:01:28.660 ahora y en el futuro. Así que el tema de hoy es la Medicina Psicodélica, ¿Hackeando 00:01:28.660 --> 00:01:33.150 la psiquiatría? Y sólo para remarcar el titular, no es una cura mágica y 00:01:33.150 --> 00:01:36.910 nunca lo será. Pero por otro lado, hay muchas cosas que saber y pensar 00:01:36.910 --> 00:01:40.950 en este contexto que me gustaría presentarles. Pero primero, unos cuantas 00:01:40.950 --> 00:01:46.000 palabras acerca de mí. Soy médico, especializada en medicina de emergencia 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:50.320 y cuidados intensivos. Trabajo y vivo en Berlín. Y también soy una de los fundadoras de MIND, 00:01:50.320 --> 00:01:56.280 Fundación Europea para la Psicodelia Ciencia, y soy su actual directora médica. 00:01:56.280 --> 00:02:01.590 Eso es nuestro equipo principal. Así que MIND es un equipo basado en miembros 00:02:01.590 --> 00:02:07.560 de la Asociación de Ciencia Psicodélica. Contamos con 450 miembros en todo el mundo y un equipo 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:13.250 principal de 50 personas. Eso es un núcleo de personal remunerado, muchos muy dedicados, 00:02:13.250 --> 00:02:17.040 muy buenos voluntarios y grandes internos de diferentes disciplinas como la 00:02:17.040 --> 00:02:23.240 neurociencia, psiquiatría, psicología, y farmacología , por ejemplo. Así que trabajamos para 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:27.630 establecer la ciencia psicodélica como un método basado en la evidencia y también educar 00:02:27.630 --> 00:02:34.489 sobre ello en Alemania y en Europa. Bien, vamos a comenzar por la parte más profunda. 00:02:34.489 --> 00:02:42.230 Psicodélicos. ¿Qué son los psicodélicos?, el término viene del griego Psique Delos 00:02:42.230 --> 00:02:46.909 que podría traducirse como "manifestando la mente de la psique". Así que 00:02:46.909 --> 00:02:52.535 muchos hablaban de las sustancias psicoactivas con una cierta capacidad 00:02:52.535 --> 00:02:57.629 de transformar la percepción de uno, la introspección, las cualidades sensoriales en una 00:02:57.629 --> 00:03:03.009 manera típica que a veces se describe como como un sueño, pero no necesariamente. 00:03:03.009 --> 00:03:07.260 Los psicodélicos clásicos que también se llaman alucinógenos, que no me gustan el 00:03:07.260 --> 00:03:12.340 termino porque no inducen alucinaciones. Lo que hacen es inducir 00:03:12.340 --> 00:03:17.959 pseudo-alucinaciones; así que alguien en sustancias psicodélicas, generalmente el 99% 00:03:17.959 --> 00:03:21.369 de las veces es consciente de que ha tomado una sustancia y lo que lo que 00:03:21.369 --> 00:03:25.080 experienta se debe a la sustancia. Así que no es un alucinógeno, sino un pseudo... 00:03:25.080 --> 00:03:30.938 alucinógeno. Pero estas sustancias, clásicas como el LSD, psilocibina o DMT- 00:03:30.938 --> 00:03:37.340 funcionan de una manera muy específica y todos ellos están trabajando en el sistema serotoninérgico. 00:03:37.340 --> 00:03:41.510 Así que la serotonina es uno de los neurotransmisores claves y hay un receptor 00:03:41.510 --> 00:03:47.029 que es el receptor 5-HT2A, que es, como, el más pequeño común denominador de 00:03:47.029 --> 00:03:51.390 todas esas sustancias, lo que no quiere decir que todas trabajan sólo con este, pero 00:03:51.390 --> 00:03:56.119 afectan a toda una plétora de neurotransmisores y receptores. Pero este 00:03:56.119 --> 00:04:00.780 la clave donde todos trabajan. Hay otras sustancias que se clasifican como, 00:04:00.780 --> 00:04:04.930 psicodélicos, de alguna manera, tal como el éxtasis, el MDMA es uno de los 00:04:04.930 --> 00:04:09.840 que también funciona en el sistema de serotonina. Disociativos, como la ketamina, 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:14.079 que trabaja más en el receptor NMDA y algunos otros; son básicamente químicos 00:04:14.079 --> 00:04:20.120 como la Amanita, que es el hongo matamoscas, o Datura, o la Salvia. 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:24.085 Esta es la única diapositiva con la que voy a molestar con informaciòn de tipo de cientifico. Pero yo 00:04:24.085 --> 00:04:29.050 creo que es importante ser claro sobre esto porque aunque los psicodélicos son 00:04:29.050 --> 00:04:34.170 un meme cultural pop, casi nadie sabe algo al respecto, para ser honesto. La mayoría 00:04:34.170 --> 00:04:41.290 los asocian con ser drogas de el mismo perfil de peligro que la metanfetamina 00:04:41.290 --> 00:04:45.950 o los opiáceos. Piensan que hay un factor adicción adictivo que de hecho no existe con 00:04:45.950 --> 00:04:51.390 los psicodélicos clásicos.Y básicamente han sido el rincón sucio de la percepción para 00:04:51.390 --> 00:04:57.296 mucha gente durante mucho tiempo. Recientemente, las cosas han cambiado un poco. Los Psicodélicos 00:04:57.296 --> 00:05:03.120 han llegado a ser mainstream. En primer lugar, porque hay un cambio de percepción sobre las drogas en 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:09.510 general debido a la percepción de la cannabis y su prescripción medicación. Y también porque 00:05:09.510 --> 00:05:13.440 gente como, por ejemplo, Michael Pollan, que es un autor bestseller que escribe 00:05:13.440 --> 00:05:19.020 sobre cocina y nutrición, ha recurrido a escribir sobre psicodélicos. Y otro 00:05:19.020 --> 00:05:23.485 factor que ha ayudado a los psicodélicos por un lado, y al mismo tiempo los ha perjudicado es el 00:05:23.485 --> 00:05:28.870 tema de la microdosificación que hemos visto, especialmente en la escena de la tecnología 00:05:28.870 --> 00:05:36.530 y especialmente en el área de la bahía y Silicon Valley. Pero ¿De dónde vienen? 00:05:36.530 --> 00:05:43.000 En esta charla, no voy a hablar de psicodélicos,ni de sustancias 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:48.160 psicoativas en otros marcos culturales. Hay culturas como la del Amazonas 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:54.260 o algunos pueblos aztecas de México que han estado usando psicoactivos 00:05:54.260 --> 00:06:00.750 00:06:00.750 --> 00:06:05.760 00:06:05.760 --> 00:06:12.510 00:06:12.510 --> 00:06:19.390 00:06:19.390 --> 00:06:26.820 00:06:26.820 --> 00:06:32.620 00:06:32.620 --> 00:06:36.780 00:06:36.780 --> 00:06:42.180 00:06:42.180 --> 00:06:46.291 00:06:46.291 --> 00:06:51.170 00:06:51.170 --> 00:06:59.000 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:03.251 00:07:03.251 --> 00:07:09.020 00:07:09.020 --> 00:07:14.890 00:07:14.890 --> 00:07:20.360 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:25.610 00:07:25.610 --> 00:07:29.690 00:07:29.690 --> 00:07:37.100 00:07:37.100 --> 00:07:42.400 00:07:42.400 --> 00:07:48.270 00:07:48.270 --> 00:07:52.290 00:07:52.290 --> 00:07:57.250 00:07:57.250 --> 00:08:01.430 00:08:01.430 --> 00:08:06.400 00:08:06.400 --> 00:08:13.000 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:20.110 00:08:20.110 --> 00:08:24.020 00:08:24.020 --> 00:08:30.210 00:08:30.210 --> 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