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SPEAKER 1: My name is Smith. I work at Flipkart.

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SPEAKER 2: Hi guys. I'm Tri Hari??.[br]I

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am a partner at Nilenso.

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S.1.: OK, we are going to talk about impact.

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So what do we mean?

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So let's start with a question.

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As programmer, what are the problem we face?[br]So

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looking at this, aside from that, you know,[br]maybe,

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in the worst case we have to quickly fix

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a bug on production, or maybe just really[br]cranky

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client comes up with a requirement which is[br]very

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hard to fulfill, or you know, our code quality

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or our tests written so big, like Chad said

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yesterday, that it takes a long time to finish.

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But these are the kind of problems we face,

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generally. But let's see what other problems[br]do people

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in rural India face?

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Yeah. So. Let's start with this: food.

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So I'm sure all of us enjoyed the really

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good lunch there, [00:01:25] pune gosh, chicken[br]packenard, fune

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mokney [00:01:28]. We will also get a tea[br]break

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soon enough. I'm hoping. But what about the[br]people

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out there? They don't even get a square meal

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once a day.

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Water- well. People in India really have accepted[br]the

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fact that they don't get water to bath in

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the rural areas. They somehow manage it with[br]the

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drinking water they get. It's really not clean,[br]but

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they somehow manage.

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Shelter. V.J. told me a fact today, that sixty

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percent of population in India do not have[br]a

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toilet. They don't have access to a toilet.[br]So

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let's, not even care about anything else.

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And education, this is something very personal[br]to me.

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Where I come from, it's even lucky to people

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to study up to ?? standard [00:02:12].

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So, so my question is, how many of you

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have written a line of code which has impacted

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life in some way? I'm not saying a big

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way, but a meaningful way.

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Can anyone show their hands? Yeah.

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And how many of you really want to help

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them out.

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Only this many? Like this is really sad. OK.

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So you really want to help them out, and

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this is how you can do it.

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S.2.: Right, so this is essentially what we[br]heard

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about. A few of us at Nilenso, and previously

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C42, have been fortunate enough to work on[br]the

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Survey Project.

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And I'm gonna leave it to this: We have

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6,000 people who have been impacted by the[br]first

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run of this project. This thing is opensource.[br]I'm

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gonna leave this slide for you guys to look

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at. And we've- five big cities, 6,000 people.[br]Kids,

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pregnant women, with the nutrition survey.[br]Right, this was

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the first run.

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And there was another one, that went to people,

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women, in the agricultural side, and there[br]are three

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thousand families who have been helped. And[br]one, a

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single fact that, that's gonna help you understand[br]where

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we are with this - look at the last

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three lines in this slide, basically.

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These are the inferences that have been drawn[br]based

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on the data here that is 6,000 requests from

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here, and 3,000 families. That's roughly,[br]again, around 6,000

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records here, right.

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So that's so much data coming in, and inferences

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drawn across surveys.

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Technically, like, why am I, why are we presenting

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this here, and what do you people have to

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do with it? Apart from this, like, the technical,

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like the number of apps and whatnot, there[br]is

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so much data coming in, right. The last thing

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that we have in our road map is a

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separate Clojure app to take care of the big

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data stuff.

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And, like, personally I have spent hours of[br]my

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time looking at the UX in this thing.

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So these apps have to go down to the

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last mile, down to people's homes, where there's[br]no

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internet, right. And they have, like, one[br]hour of

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internet in a week, and then there's so much

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data integrated problems that you have to[br]deal with

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as well.

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And sadly over the last month or so, this

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has come to a slow stop, and we have

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not had the time to work on this. But,

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I'm hoping that a lot of people here do

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have some time to spare. Send us a poll

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request, whatever it is.

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These are the people we really care about.[br]We

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write algorithms to bring down our performance[br]from point

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zero one seconds to point zero zero one seconds,

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and that's all we have, right.

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S.1.: So I'll wrap it up really fast. So

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let's not always write code to help these[br]people

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out with our wonderful projects like WunderRails[br]RubyGems and

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other languages.

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Let's also these people out as well. You know,

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maybe give them a boost, because I really[br]believe

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we don't all have to be Bill Gates to

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help these people out. With our own skills[br]we

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can contribute to and write technical projects[br]that could

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help them out.

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And, yeah, this is where you can find the

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projects and start and everything.

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Thank you.

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S.2.: You can catch anyone of us after the

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talk if you want to help us out. Thanks.

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INTRO: So next up we have Kestap?? [00:06:12][br]on

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the stage. Time starts now.

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SPEAKER: Hi everyone. Today I'll be talking[br]about Sinatra,

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basic introduction. Probably everybody knows[br]this, but more and

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more though I'll be talking about how to write

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an extension in Sinatra.

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So the basic structure of Sinatra is this.[br]There

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is a request class that extends from Rack::Request,[br]response

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that extends from Rack::Response, ExtendedRack[br]is basically for the

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things that are not in rack, and so they

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define extra methods there.

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There is a commonlogger which extends from[br]Rack::CommonLogger, and

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this is the main part, Base.

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So there are actually three ways to, there[br]are

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actually three ways to extending Sinatra.[br]The first one

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is extensions, the second one is - no.

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Not quite.

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The second one is helpers and the third one

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is middleware. I won't be talking about middleware[br]probably,

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there is a lot of material on that. but

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the extensions and helpers, I've found it[br]difficult to

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use them, so. I've kind of made a small

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presentation here.

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So the first difference between helpers and[br]extensions is

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that, in helpers, you use a helper or you

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write a helper if the functionality is required[br]in

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the get method or post method or any other

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blocks that we use.

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So inside a route block the extensions are[br]for

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extending the functionality of Sinatra itself.

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So for example, inside a get block we find

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our two, return JSON response every time,[br]so I

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can make a function like this, JSON(a) and[br]convert

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basically converts our hash into a JSON string.

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So the implementation is this. You write it[br]in

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a module called Helpers. You define the method,[br]you

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pass it in, and it basically returns the string.

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And you include your helpers in before, in[br]your

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app file.

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So to write this as a gem you have

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to put that under a namespace of Sinatra,[br]then

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use the module, the same code as above.

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And these two are the magic things that actually

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happen. So base dot helpers is almost similar[br]to

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adding helpers json inside your app file.

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So, and base dot set is basically, it sets

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the json_content_type, sets the request_content_type[br]to JSON by default

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for every request.

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So the other thing, the major portion is extensions.

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So in extensions, Sinatra provides extensions[br]to, let's say

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you want to define a new route, so you

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can do that by extensions. I'll demonstrate[br]a small

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thing, a small route actually. So I created[br]this

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extension today.

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So I have a module Sinatra, I have this

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super module, and this is an extra route.[br]So

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this, the route method is provided by Sinatra[br]base,

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and I'm extending that, so that every, every[br]request

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that you make to this end point, to, with

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a method request of this one, instead of get

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r post, it will return something pretty good.

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So start it up.

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And yeah. So that's what it does.

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So, you don't have to clap for that, it's

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lame.

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So the basic difference between these two[br]is that

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this is, this is an extension of Sinatra.[br]This

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route is not defined but we are defining that

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route.

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We are using the things that are provided[br]by

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Sinatra and we are basically extending. So[br]the register

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method is a method provided by Sinatra where[br]all,

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whatever module you define have to be registered[br]with

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Sinatra, so that every app that you use, and,

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like this. So every app that you use, you

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just call register Sinatra, that one, and[br]I'll, I've

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defined my route instead of get slash, I have

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used doge and it returns this.

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So the basic difference is that it's, like[br]you,

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if you want to extend so there are these

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two things, and I think that's it.

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VINASH: Yeah, so. This Billard, I am Vinash.[br]We

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are from Mumbai, RV?? [00:10:57] So I just[br]want

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to tell all of you guys, and introduce us

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too, we're from Mumbai RV?? [00:11:01].

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We have total counted seven meet ups in all.

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So we are on our way to have a

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big meet up soon. Maybe in June or later.

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But till now we have a frequent audience of

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ten to twenty people, always there. We have[br]one

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or two talks, we have a single hack session

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once. That was for Brails?? [00:11:19]

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We are not going to push anything, but we

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are able to discuss a few things and we

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wrote entire cookies, et cetera et al. Everyone[br]knows.

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So there is a mindset about Bombai that Bombai

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is partially, Bombai has very few jobs and[br]all

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that stuff. But I can say that nowadays with

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so many startups starting up, the salaries[br]are very

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good I guess, currently.

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So I guess I will tell you that. You

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should ship to Bombai if you are born in

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part of Bombai, you should definitely come[br]back to

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Bombai rather than going to Bangalore and[br]Pume, because,

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yeah.

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I know! The intellectual level at Bombai is[br]a

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little low as compared to Bangalore or Pume,[br]but

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we need to change that, and we want guys

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like you to come back to Bombai who were

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born in a part of Bombai and increase the

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?? [00:12:18] of Bombai to a level which can

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compete with Bangalore and Pume itself.

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So I want Billard to say a few words

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about the same.

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BILLARD: Actually I just interacted with some[br]of the

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peers here, and I found out that they didn't

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even know that there's are some developers[br]in Bombai

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like who know Rails or something. So we just

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came here to give a lightning talk that, oh,

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dude we are, we exist there, there are some

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people who are trying to make a dent, not

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in the, not in the universe, but at least

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in Bombai.

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To, so we are that's what we are putting

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all our efforts, like, and that's what, as[br]my-

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as Vanash said that we are about to complete

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first annual city for Mombai. I RV?? [00:13:11].[br]That's

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what we are now making the name out of

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it.

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So we are created at least a small event,

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which, so, which we all are planning, looking[br]forward

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to. So that's all we have. And Bombai RV

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is alive and it will be.

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SATYA KALLURI: Hey guys, this is Satya, I'm[br]from

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Hadribad?? [00:13:36], and you know, I basically[br]want to

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talk about technology meetups. I've been part[br]of some

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technology meetups for quite some time. And[br]you know

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to be very straight, I was a little upset

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with the way they go.

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So, and fortunately, you know, I've been in[br]touch

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with some of the technologies these days,[br]and they've

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revived the hope in me, so I just wanted

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to share some of my learnings, and how can

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we make better use of these technology meetups.

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Oh, by the way, I'm Satya Kalluri and our

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group is @HydRuby, so you can follow us there.

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So the first thing is I believe there are

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two kinds of meetups in the universe. There[br]are

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two really kind of different meetups.

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A) is technology meetups, which we need to[br]consider

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them as absolutely local. It's like you and[br]me

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catch up together in the next house or the

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next coffee house. It doesn't have to be as

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big as this in total area?? [00:14:21]. So[br]it's

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a technology meetup where you know what, it's[br]a

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local thing. And you know what, the, and it's

0:14:26.549,0:14:28.910
focused. It doesn't have to be as wide agenda

0:14:28.910,0:14:29.549
as this.

0:14:29.549,0:14:31.540
It could be as simple as a bug-a-thon. It

0:14:31.540,0:14:33.639
could be as simple as learning a new gem,

0:14:33.639,0:14:36.299
or it could be anything basically. A small[br]local,

0:14:36.299,0:14:36.999
focused.

0:14:36.999,0:14:39.179
And there are other ones which are technology[br]conferences.

0:14:39.179,0:14:41.079
These are bigger ones, where in what, all,[br]it's

0:14:41.079,0:14:42.790
like one of the organizers said, you know[br]like,

0:14:42.790,0:14:45.720
made of communities and sub communities. Atoms[br]and molecules,

0:14:45.720,0:14:46.249
right.

0:14:46.249,0:14:49.239
So these small technology meetups, they come[br]up together

0:14:49.239,0:14:52.920
and create these bigger conferences, regional[br]ones, which have

0:14:52.920,0:14:54.309
a wider agenda.

0:14:54.309,0:14:56.600
So my problem is about the technology meetups.[br]The

0:14:56.600,0:14:58.869
conferences are going good. GCRC here is an[br]example,

0:14:58.869,0:15:01.389
they're doing an awesome job. But how can[br]we

0:15:01.389,0:15:03.519
improve the technology meetups. You know whenever[br]I catch

0:15:03.519,0:15:06.079
up with folks at the lunch place or something,

0:15:06.079,0:15:08.100
the majority of them say, oh, you know, my

0:15:08.100,0:15:10.069
meetup gets only two attendees, three attendees.

0:15:10.069,0:15:11.629
You know that over a period of time I've

0:15:11.629,0:15:13.989
just found that certain items, if, which if[br]we

0:15:13.989,0:15:16.179
address them properly I think the local technology[br]meetups

0:15:16.179,0:15:18.160
are gonna be kickass.

0:15:18.160,0:15:19.629
So.

0:15:19.629,0:15:23.470
So. Basically I wanted to let you know what

0:15:23.470,0:15:25.619
a technology meetup is, first of all, and[br]why

0:15:25.619,0:15:26.660
are they for?

0:15:26.660,0:15:29.859
Technology meetups are absolutely for techies[br]to collaborate, learn,

0:15:29.859,0:15:32.519
contribute, share knowledge. So these are[br]local ones. So

0:15:32.519,0:15:34.309
do understand, these are the only for those[br]techies.

0:15:34.309,0:15:36.679
They're not for the job seekers and not the

0:15:36.679,0:15:38.749
employers. Whenever there's a technology meetup[br]going, and if

0:15:38.749,0:15:40.499
you need a Rails developer, please do not[br]go

0:15:40.499,0:15:41.069
there.

0:15:41.069,0:15:42.739
And if you're looking for a job, don't go

0:15:42.739,0:15:45.100
there. Just, let's not pollute these small[br]local meetups.

0:15:45.100,0:15:48.160
They have for technology peers to basically[br]go there,

0:15:48.160,0:15:51.429
share knowledge and solve each others problems[br]and become

0:15:51.429,0:15:52.579
better in technology.

0:15:52.579,0:15:54.829
You know the last two are acceptable for conferences

0:15:54.829,0:15:57.369
like these, where, you know, these are big[br]things

0:15:57.369,0:16:00.259
where there are networking opportunities and[br]tech meetups and

0:16:00.259,0:16:03.410
everything. But for local meetups let's stick[br]to technology.

0:16:03.410,0:16:05.910
That way everybody who comes, you know what,[br]knows

0:16:05.910,0:16:08.329
what's going to happen. It's technology. This[br]is Rails,

0:16:08.329,0:16:10.970
which I love. I come here to write, to

0:16:10.970,0:16:12.449
learn Rails.

0:16:12.449,0:16:14.859
And while participating, you know what, these,[br]the following

0:16:14.859,0:16:17.119
six things are the most important things which[br]I

0:16:17.119,0:16:18.879
could recommend everybody to follow.

0:16:18.879,0:16:21.149
The first thing is identity. Most of those[br]whom

0:16:21.149,0:16:22.970
I see don't have an identity on Twitter, don't

0:16:22.970,0:16:25.239
have an identity on StackerWorkflow, even[br]meetup I see

0:16:25.239,0:16:27.309
some of them say plus five. Now what the

0:16:27.309,0:16:28.519
heck does plus five mean?

0:16:28.519,0:16:30.549
Not what, who are the other five guys? So

0:16:30.549,0:16:32.160
it would be nice if they identities, because[br]that

0:16:32.160,0:16:34.889
way I might want to communicate with that[br]fifth

0:16:34.889,0:16:38.029
guy. I don't need to contact this first guy.

0:16:38.029,0:16:39.939
So and you are gonna create your identity,[br]somebody

0:16:39.939,0:16:41.809
needs to contact you directly, you know what,[br]it

0:16:41.809,0:16:44.230
creates an open channel, and as one of them,

0:16:44.230,0:16:45.449
one of the speakers said, you know, you are

0:16:45.449,0:16:47.439
going to create and identity and then a brand.

0:16:47.439,0:16:49.279
So this is the first step. So create an

0:16:49.279,0:16:52.299
identity for yourself on Twitter, StackerWorkflow[br]and everything.

0:16:52.299,0:16:54.569
It adds authenticity to the group, you know.[br]Two

0:16:54.569,0:16:56.569
guys, two persons catch up in a meetup doesn't

0:16:56.569,0:16:58.910
make sense. But two plus five is seven, so

0:16:58.910,0:17:01.410
when seven people really catch up in a meetup,

0:17:01.410,0:17:02.919
I think it adds a lot of authenticity to

0:17:02.919,0:17:03.749
the group.

0:17:03.749,0:17:05.559
When you guys have your own facebook account,[br]why

0:17:05.559,0:17:07.750
not have your own StackOverflow account. I[br]don't get

0:17:07.750,0:17:08.429
it.

0:17:08.429,0:17:11.609
The, so the next thing is RSVPs. I see

0:17:11.609,0:17:15.829
many RSVPs, like even our @HydRuby has thirty-five[br]RSVPs,

0:17:15.829,0:17:17.940
but only four of them turned up, so. Take

0:17:17.940,0:17:20.959
your RSVPs seriously because there are people,[br]like, you

0:17:20.959,0:17:22.440
know, they're not awake, and you know all[br]these

0:17:22.440,0:17:26.130
people who take these meetups very seriously,[br]and there

0:17:26.130,0:17:27.770
may not be some, some people who buy beers

0:17:27.770,0:17:28.880
for everybody who come up and-

0:17:28.880,0:17:31.250
When 31 beers are leftover, you know, nobody's[br]gonna

0:17:31.250,0:17:33.830
buy them, so. Please take your RSVP seriously.[br]That

0:17:33.830,0:17:36.950
adds authenticity to the group, OK.

0:17:36.950,0:17:38.450
And the next thing is attendees, you know,[br]don't

0:17:38.450,0:17:40.830
wait for ten or twenty people to really come

0:17:40.830,0:17:43.280
to a meetup. You just need one other guy

0:17:43.280,0:17:45.480
to listen to you and you can create a

0:17:45.480,0:17:48.010
meetup, and you can, guys, can really discuss[br]about

0:17:48.010,0:17:48.830
technology.

0:17:48.830,0:17:50.830
The next thing is StackOverflow, you know,[br]just share

0:17:50.830,0:17:53.310
and contribute. You don't have to really,[br]I mean,

0:17:53.310,0:17:55.270
for you to really become a good meetup guy,

0:17:55.270,0:17:57.600
I think at least spend every day, fifteen[br]minutes

0:17:57.600,0:18:01.200
on StackOverflow. Don't just find answers[br]but answer the

0:18:01.200,0:18:02.980
questions. This I've learned from Swanand.[br]This guy has

0:18:02.980,0:18:05.060
some 6,000 bloody points on StackOverflow.[br]I have some

0:18:05.060,0:18:06.000
twelve hundred, that's it.

0:18:06.000,0:18:07.900
So I've learned from it. So become a better

0:18:07.900,0:18:10.000
contributer. You become really confident,[br]and you'll become a

0:18:10.000,0:18:13.430
different person. You can also contribute[br]at GitHub. If

0:18:13.430,0:18:15.980
you don't know which GitHub module to really[br]contribute,

0:18:15.980,0:18:19.930
go for Codetriage. It gives you good popular[br]libraries

0:18:19.930,0:18:20.790
to really help.

0:18:20.790,0:18:23.130
And, do you have an idea? Just stop working

0:18:23.130,0:18:25.430
on it. First learn better technology and then,[br]you

0:18:25.430,0:18:28.370
know, you can definitely work on the product.[br]And

0:18:28.370,0:18:30.620
the last thing is, like, spread the word.[br]This

0:18:30.620,0:18:33.330
guy's already on me, so. Spread the word.[br]Go

0:18:33.330,0:18:36.070
for Facebook. You can use Facebook too, and[br]you

0:18:36.070,0:18:37.170
can also use Twitter.

0:18:37.170,0:18:39.770
So spread the word and make these technology[br]meetups

0:18:39.770,0:18:40.370
a good thing.

0:18:40.370,0:18:42.210
Cheers guys, thank you.

0:18:42.210,0:18:46.670
SPEAKER: Before I start, big thumbs up for[br]the

0:18:46.670,0:18:49.520
guys who started off. It's great to see, you

0:18:49.520,0:18:53.800
know, technology people, developers who care[br]about social issues.

0:18:53.800,0:18:56.840
And here I am to talk about Milaap, which

0:18:56.840,0:19:00.120
is also a social enterprise. And I just want

0:19:00.120,0:19:01.720
to talk about what Milaap is all about and

0:19:01.720,0:19:05.360
how you can help.

0:19:05.360,0:19:10.660
So Milaap is a Crowdfunding platform for communities[br]in

0:19:10.660,0:19:15.650
need which is powered by Ruby on Rails. So

0:19:15.650,0:19:18.430
we are a hardcore Ruby on Rails shop, and

0:19:18.430,0:19:21.770
we bridge the gap between people who are need

0:19:21.770,0:19:24.810
of help and people who want to help, right.

0:19:24.810,0:19:27.550
So let's quickly look at what that means.[br]So

0:19:27.550,0:19:30.670
I'm sure all of us want to do good.

0:19:30.670,0:19:33.280
We want to help others. But when it comes

0:19:33.280,0:19:37.760
to helping others with financial aid a lot[br]of

0:19:37.760,0:19:41.060
us are hesitant, because we are not sure,[br]you

0:19:41.060,0:19:43.300
know, our hard-earned money, when we give[br]it to

0:19:43.300,0:19:45.360
someone, you know, is it going to be used

0:19:45.360,0:19:47.080
in the right way? Is it the right person

0:19:47.080,0:19:49.300
I'm going to give this money to.

0:19:49.300,0:19:53.020
So Milaap tries to bridge this gap, right.[br]So

0:19:53.020,0:19:56.910
Milaap has a set of profiles uploaded on our

0:19:56.910,0:20:00.480
website, which are across various kind of[br]causes, and

0:20:00.480,0:20:03.010
you can, you can filter through various criteria[br]and

0:20:03.010,0:20:06.130
choose them. And it helps you make an informed

0:20:06.130,0:20:08.670
decision about whom you want to help, right.

0:20:08.670,0:20:11.300
So this is how it brings, it bridges the

0:20:11.300,0:20:13.870
gap between people who want to help and people

0:20:13.870,0:20:16.210
who are in need of help.

0:20:16.210,0:20:18.800
How it works: It's very simple. Just four[br]steps.

0:20:18.800,0:20:21.120
As I said, the first step is, you look

0:20:21.120,0:20:24.570
at the various causes and various filter criterias[br]and

0:20:24.570,0:20:26.370
choose the person you need to help. You want

0:20:26.370,0:20:27.530
to help.

0:20:27.530,0:20:31.060
And make a loan on Milaap website. This is

0:20:31.060,0:20:34.410
just an online payment that you do. The real

0:20:34.410,0:20:37.180
test starts after website. So the whole business[br]is

0:20:37.180,0:20:41.180
about testing transferrency. Can you trust[br]Milaap that the

0:20:41.180,0:20:42.850
money is going in the right hands?

0:20:42.850,0:20:47.290
Another big thing, when it comes to helping[br]is,

0:20:47.290,0:20:51.060
donations - there is this hesitancy that,[br]you know,

0:20:51.060,0:20:53.870
my hard-earned money is going away, whereas[br]what you

0:20:53.870,0:20:56.360
do on Milaap is not a donation but a

0:20:56.360,0:20:59.700
loan. That means you help one person, let's[br]say

0:20:59.700,0:21:01.870
a person needs ten thousand rupees to build[br]a

0:21:01.870,0:21:04.820
toilet. You contribute just 500 rupees out[br]of it,

0:21:04.820,0:21:06.370
but that 500 is not a donation.

0:21:06.370,0:21:09.020
Within a year, month on month, you get back

0:21:09.020,0:21:11.010
your money, and all your 500 rupees back to

0:21:11.010,0:21:14.610
your account within one year's time. And then[br]you

0:21:14.610,0:21:17.820
can utilize the same thing to make an impact

0:21:17.820,0:21:20.970
on someone else's life. This is what we call

0:21:20.970,0:21:22.520
making an impact, again and again with the[br]same

0:21:22.520,0:21:25.800
money. And of course if you start believing[br]in

0:21:25.800,0:21:29.320
the idea, you start putting more, more of[br]money

0:21:29.320,0:21:30.700
in helping others, right.

0:21:30.700,0:21:32.900
So there's the four simple steps. Choose a[br]customer,

0:21:32.900,0:21:36.570
make a loan, get repaid and relend.

0:21:36.570,0:21:39.660
How can you help, right? Of course the obvious

0:21:39.660,0:21:44.090
thing is you know check out the website, if

0:21:44.090,0:21:47.500
you like the idea, like us on Facebook. Tweet

0:21:47.500,0:21:49.800
about us, write about us on your blog. We

0:21:49.800,0:21:51.280
also have a widget which you can put on

0:21:51.280,0:21:53.960
your blog saying that you support Milaap.

0:21:53.960,0:21:57.920
But if you want to do even more, right,

0:21:57.920,0:22:00.700
obviously you can actually be an active participant[br]on

0:22:00.700,0:22:02.820
our website. Go and make a loan to someone

0:22:02.820,0:22:07.590
there today. You could also do something interesting,[br]I

0:22:07.590,0:22:09.570
think one of the best gift ideas that you

0:22:09.570,0:22:11.570
could have is to give a Milaap gift card

0:22:11.570,0:22:12.630
to someone.

0:22:12.630,0:22:14.350
That is you are gifting someone the ability[br]to

0:22:14.350,0:22:20.760
help someone, and repeatedly keep doing it,[br]right.

0:22:20.760,0:22:23.370
Finally you could also start a campaign. If[br]you

0:22:23.370,0:22:25.500
want to go really big, you could adopt a

0:22:25.500,0:22:28.220
particular borrower on the website or adopt[br]a particular

0:22:28.220,0:22:31.610
cause, and decide to raise some funds to impact

0:22:31.610,0:22:34.480
that critical cause. So you can decide to[br]raise

0:22:34.480,0:22:36.600
some money for education. Let's say you're[br]running a

0:22:36.600,0:22:38.080
marathon, you can put out, we can put up

0:22:38.080,0:22:41.830
a page for you and help you raise some

0:22:41.830,0:22:45.050
of money through you, through that event.

0:22:45.050,0:22:49.690
But, right, I'm sure many of you would think,

0:22:49.690,0:22:53.430
this guy's coming here talking about some[br]company, Milaap

0:22:53.430,0:22:55.720
in three, four minutes, why should I go ahead

0:22:55.720,0:22:57.860
and do anything about it, right? So proof[br]of

0:22:57.860,0:22:59.810
the pudding is in it's eating, right.

0:22:59.810,0:23:02.570
So what we want you is to first get

0:23:02.570,0:23:06.090
real, first-hand experience of what Milaap[br]is and how

0:23:06.090,0:23:09.240
it helps people, how much you can trust it,

0:23:09.240,0:23:12.220
how transparant it is. So we are right now

0:23:12.220,0:23:17.720
giving away free credits, free Milaap credits[br]worth 500

0:23:17.720,0:23:20.280
rupees. Anyone who wants to try out what Milaap

0:23:20.280,0:23:23.440
is without spending a buck from your pocket[br]can

0:23:23.440,0:23:29.430
use this gift card, GCRC14, which some of,[br]same

0:23:29.430,0:23:32.550
as our twitter hash tag as well. And you'll

0:23:32.550,0:23:34.390
be able to make a loan on Milaap just

0:23:34.390,0:23:36.670
by using those 500 rupees.

0:23:36.670,0:23:39.180
You just click on lend button and when it

0:23:39.180,0:23:41.030
comes to actually making a payment, just write[br]in

0:23:41.030,0:23:43.680
the coupon and you'll be able to, you are

0:23:43.680,0:23:45.220
good to go, right.

0:23:45.220,0:23:46.760
Thanks a lot.

0:23:46.760,0:23:48.810
V.O.: Thanks Sarish?? [00:23:48].

0:23:48.810,0:23:51.530
SORU: Houston, can you copy me?

0:23:51.530,0:23:56.550
OK. So I don't have slides. So I'm Soru.

0:23:56.550,0:24:00.400
I'm nineteen. I'm still in college. So over[br]the

0:24:00.400,0:24:02.310
last summer I did a Google Summer of Code

0:24:02.310,0:24:04.670
with a ?? project [00:24:03]. And I built[br]this

0:24:04.670,0:24:06.790
GitHub for designers, so I thought I would[br]teach

0:24:06.790,0:24:09.470
that here so that you could know about it,

0:24:09.470,0:24:12.050
and I could, I saw that there are some

0:24:12.050,0:24:15.810
design-oriented start-ups so they could probably[br]give me feedback.

0:24:15.810,0:24:19.450
So the idea is that, like, when designers[br]collaborate,

0:24:19.450,0:24:23.070
especially opensource designers, they go to[br]mailing lists and

0:24:23.070,0:24:27.260
they share links, and so, let's say, Coby[br]decides

0:24:27.260,0:24:30.780
to make, make this banner. So he starts with,

0:24:30.780,0:24:33.640
he starts with the logo, and he puts it

0:24:33.640,0:24:35.530
on MGo?? [00:24:34] and shares a link on the

0:24:35.530,0:24:38.170
mailing list, and people go plus one, cool,[br]or

0:24:38.170,0:24:39.430
this is awesome.

0:24:39.430,0:24:41.110
And everybody gets that link. It's a pain[br]in

0:24:41.110,0:24:45.020
the ass. So like, this is kind of very,

0:24:45.020,0:24:48.400
it's like spam, it's also annoying, and there's[br]no

0:24:48.400,0:24:51.340
nice way to understand designer feedback.

0:24:51.340,0:24:55.490
So how it helps is, so you can, GlitterGallery

0:24:55.490,0:24:57.510
is not live right now. But I'll get it

0:24:57.510,0:24:59.450
up soon. So right now what you can do,

0:24:59.450,0:25:01.690
there is, you can go create a new design

0:25:01.690,0:25:04.170
project just like GitHub and you can create[br]SVG

0:25:04.170,0:25:07.770
files, or you can create, you can upload your

0:25:07.770,0:25:10.310
own SVGs or PNG or JPEG or whatever.

0:25:10.310,0:25:13.020
So after that, so let's say he created the

0:25:13.020,0:25:15.800
same thing inverted in color, and he can post

0:25:15.800,0:25:17.410
it there and he can share links with his

0:25:17.410,0:25:20.860
friends and anybody else on the app can log

0:25:20.860,0:25:23.800
in and he can comment over there, so. So

0:25:23.800,0:25:25.550
cool, plus one and all that.

0:25:25.550,0:25:27.900
So some comments make sense. Because these[br]comments are

0:25:27.900,0:25:30.050
nice, they make you feel good. But there are

0:25:30.050,0:25:32.590
certain comments which could, which could[br]say that, OK,

0:25:32.590,0:25:34.170
if you're going to project this, this won't[br]be

0:25:34.170,0:25:36.790
visible properly. So he can mark said comments[br]as

0:25:36.790,0:25:39.170
issues. They go to an issue tracker, and somebody

0:25:39.170,0:25:42.440
else can forward the project, so it becomes[br]theirs.

0:25:42.440,0:25:44.410
They can make changes to it and send back

0:25:44.410,0:25:46.730
poll requests to the original designer.

0:25:46.730,0:25:49.810
So he can, you know, pull back and. So

0:25:49.810,0:25:53.110
design projects can flourish that way. And[br]also we

0:25:53.110,0:25:56.680
have a feature called GlitterPosts. So something[br]like, I

0:25:56.680,0:25:59.270
don't know, maybe like medium, where you can[br]go

0:25:59.270,0:26:02.160
and explain what, what design process you[br]went through.

0:26:02.160,0:26:05.110
So every time you make a new change, anytime

0:26:05.110,0:26:07.100
you update, there is a commit happening in[br]the

0:26:07.100,0:26:07.550
background.

0:26:07.550,0:26:09.710
So we use the great library provided by GitHub.

0:26:09.710,0:26:12.600
They use the same thing. So every instance[br]has

0:26:12.600,0:26:15.460
a commit idea and all that. So you can

0:26:15.460,0:26:17.560
reference comments, so you can go there and[br]say

0:26:17.560,0:26:20.040
I started with this file, this is the idea

0:26:20.040,0:26:23.540
behind it, and now, next I did this, this

0:26:23.540,0:26:24.450
is how it went.

0:26:24.450,0:26:26.530
So it also serves as a nice way to

0:26:26.530,0:26:29.730
learn, also maybe a nice way to judge designers'

0:26:29.730,0:26:33.240
thought process. So, so I would just like[br]to

0:26:33.240,0:26:35.590
ask if any of you work with designers or

0:26:35.590,0:26:38.480
are designers yourselves, what could be some[br]better ways

0:26:38.480,0:26:41.400
to collaborate, and how else could I extend[br]this

0:26:41.400,0:26:41.550
project.

0:26:41.550,0:26:44.130
By the way, this is opensource. And next summer

0:26:44.130,0:26:45.740
for Google Summer of Code we might be taking

0:26:45.740,0:26:48.120
around two people. So if there are any students

0:26:48.120,0:26:51.020
here who would like to contribute, you can[br]ping

0:26:51.020,0:26:54.700
me later. Thanks.

0:26:54.700,0:27:00.030
SPEAKER: Thanks, Qwinik, for the opportunity[br]to be here,

0:27:00.030,0:27:02.870
first of all, because they sent us here just

0:27:02.870,0:27:06.200
to, to sponsor and represent Qwiniks.

0:27:06.200,0:27:09.600
It happens that I land in this company, and

0:27:09.600,0:27:13.650
I start to work with them as a programmer,

0:27:13.650,0:27:16.610
and I have a lot of difficulties to, to

0:27:16.610,0:27:21.750
adopt my German mindset to the Indian mindset.[br]And

0:27:21.750,0:27:26.309
I'm still having difficulties. I'm still not[br]understanding things,

0:27:26.309,0:27:28.990
and I'm trying, deeply.

0:27:28.990,0:27:33.730
So, but I want to advise, or talk about,

0:27:33.730,0:27:38.170
what, what was the things that I've faced[br]here,

0:27:38.170,0:27:41.100
and first thing that I want to advise, and,

0:27:41.100,0:27:45.520
is that this is opensource work. Opensource[br]work means

0:27:45.520,0:27:48.180
that there is no one willing to teach you.

0:27:48.180,0:27:51.390
You have to teach by yourself. And the code

0:27:51.390,0:27:54.330
is there. Please open libraries and write[br]libraries. Not

0:27:54.330,0:27:57.030
write what is the code inside, and not what

0:27:57.030,0:28:00.430
is the documentation says, because documentation[br]can be outdated.

0:28:00.430,0:28:03.440
So with this I will advise that you need

0:28:03.440,0:28:05.970
to handle your own will and what is the

0:28:05.970,0:28:09.890
consequences. So you need to be able to know

0:28:09.890,0:28:12.520
the difference between what you want and what[br]the

0:28:12.520,0:28:14.809
project wants. This is for people that works[br]either

0:28:14.809,0:28:18.059
for projects, companies or by freelancers.

0:28:18.059,0:28:20.809
And you need to think about the consequences.[br]You

0:28:20.809,0:28:23.350
need to think about what is the, what is

0:28:23.350,0:28:25.610
the impact of this code, what is the maintenance

0:28:25.610,0:28:28.530
of this code, and what is the purpose of

0:28:28.530,0:28:31.010
this code. So think about that before writing[br]the

0:28:31.010,0:28:32.490
first line of code.

0:28:32.490,0:28:35.350
The second thing is setting up your priorities.[br]So

0:28:35.350,0:28:41.780
I found that it's somehow some people wants[br]to

0:28:41.780,0:28:45.420
rush to the finish, just to find a solution,

0:28:45.420,0:28:48.420
and most of the time without understanding[br]what the

0:28:48.420,0:28:49.830
problem is.

0:28:49.830,0:28:53.220
I spent two, three days thinking what the[br]real

0:28:53.220,0:28:55.390
problem is. What is the thing that you have

0:28:55.390,0:28:58.570
to solve, and then solve it. It's become,[br]it

0:28:58.570,0:29:03.980
will become easier in time. Mostly for maintainers.

0:29:03.980,0:29:06.680
They other one will be, be humble. Not be

0:29:06.680,0:29:09.590
humble in the streets saying, I'm not so,[br]or

0:29:09.590,0:29:12.740
not so, be humble with your code. So don't

0:29:12.740,0:29:15.410
try to solve big problems. Solve the small[br]problems.

0:29:15.410,0:29:17.710
So don't focus on the solution and the feature

0:29:17.710,0:29:20.510
that you want to generate. Focus in the method

0:29:20.510,0:29:23.780
that you're generate in. Making it consistent,[br]make it

0:29:23.780,0:29:25.110
very small.

0:29:25.110,0:29:27.309
I am try to go because there is a

0:29:27.309,0:29:31.210
lot of the - I will jump the career

0:29:31.210,0:29:34.200
of the programming to the culture one. I'm[br]sorry,

0:29:34.200,0:29:36.940
I will say. Clients are not gods. So you

0:29:36.940,0:29:40.610
are, you can be against them. It's allowed.[br]You're

0:29:40.610,0:29:42.809
allowed to be against them.

0:29:42.809,0:29:47.630
Meaning I, don't want to take this seriously,[br]but

0:29:47.630,0:29:50.800
meaning, meaning with this, you are allowed[br]to say

0:29:50.800,0:29:55.710
no, you are allowed to say scopes. Saying[br]we

0:29:55.710,0:29:59.250
are not allowed to do this. We need more

0:29:59.250,0:30:03.320
time or we need this resources that we don't

0:30:03.320,0:30:07.160
have. So please take in mind this because[br]this

0:30:07.160,0:30:10.450
is a huge impact for the company owners, for

0:30:10.450,0:30:12.590
the people in project managers.

0:30:12.590,0:30:16.710
Project managers are waiting, expecting something[br]from you, and

0:30:16.710,0:30:20.200
if you will not deliver on time, or what

0:30:20.200,0:30:24.110
they're expecting, you're breaking big rules.[br]It's not a

0:30:24.110,0:30:26.700
small thing. You're breaking big, big rules.

0:30:26.700,0:30:30.990
With this, I want to add, you need to

0:30:30.990,0:30:34.680
be predictable. Whatever you do make it predictable[br]for

0:30:34.680,0:30:36.960
the project manager, for the company owner,[br]for the

0:30:36.960,0:30:39.740
client. Meaning if you're doing something[br]that you know

0:30:39.740,0:30:42.220
that will be wrong, just tell him, it will

0:30:42.220,0:30:45.600
be wrong. But make it predictable. So don't[br]make

0:30:45.600,0:30:49.730
people wait for you, to see what is, what

0:30:49.730,0:30:51.960
it will happen. One minute more.

0:30:51.960,0:30:55.490
OK, I just jump down to, so I will

0:30:55.490,0:30:59.080
say after coming here, I'm just seeing the[br]huge

0:30:59.080,0:31:02.500
effort you are doing to work in opensource.[br]I

0:31:02.500,0:31:06.130
have seen sadly for me that some books are

0:31:06.130,0:31:10.710
more expensive than what juniors earn in one[br]month.

0:31:10.710,0:31:15.400
So that's brokes my heart, some way, because[br]I

0:31:15.400,0:31:18.520
am able to buy in Europe we're able to

0:31:18.520,0:31:22.870
buy books as something, without side effects.[br]And here

0:31:22.870,0:31:26.720
people that ?? [00:31:25], for them it's impossible.

0:31:26.720,0:31:29.750
I mean the book is two, is twice what

0:31:29.750,0:31:32.660
they earn a month. So with that, it is

0:31:32.660,0:31:35.330
impossible, I know that it's impossible to[br]learn. So

0:31:35.330,0:31:38.490
I really admire the courage that you have[br]to

0:31:38.490,0:31:40.940
come here. I know the price that you're paying

0:31:40.940,0:31:43.080
for coming here. I know the effort that you're

0:31:43.080,0:31:46.220
doing and I will like to say that, I

0:31:46.220,0:31:48.290
really admire that.

0:31:48.290,0:31:50.750
And yeah. My time is over. This guy has

0:31:50.750,0:31:54.330
an android with him, so I better run.

0:31:54.330,0:31:58.260
SPEAKER: OK, so I'll, I'll just go over this

0:31:58.260,0:32:01.610
and then see if I can-

0:32:01.610,0:32:05.720
So, what I'm going to do is I, the

0:32:05.720,0:32:07.440
time I have, I'll try to sow some doubts

0:32:07.440,0:32:09.300
in your mind, and then make you go back

0:32:09.300,0:32:11.540
and think about some of the things that you've

0:32:11.540,0:32:12.960
believed about.

0:32:12.960,0:32:16.450
So like I'll talk about my experience working[br]with

0:32:16.450,0:32:20.130
ActiveRecord and why I think it's a very bad

0:32:20.130,0:32:22.620
thing for building business applications.

0:32:22.620,0:32:25.400
So ActiveRecord is good when you're building[br]web applications,

0:32:25.400,0:32:28.800
shallow web applications that have a database[br]and some

0:32:28.800,0:32:33.270
rich UI on top of it. But when you

0:32:33.270,0:32:35.929
are trying to build business applications[br]that have a

0:32:35.929,0:32:38.980
lot of heavy logic, it's not a good, a

0:32:38.980,0:32:40.240
good thing to do.

0:32:40.240,0:32:42.390
I'll briefly talk about why it's not such[br]a

0:32:42.390,0:32:46.510
good thing. One of the most problematic things[br]about

0:32:46.510,0:32:49.770
ActiveRecord is it's so much coupled with[br]databases. So

0:32:49.770,0:32:51.950
when I am trying to solve a problem that

0:32:51.950,0:32:55.740
is very business logic heavy, I tend to put

0:32:55.740,0:32:58.220
things that are difficult to, positions that[br]are difficult

0:32:58.220,0:32:59.660
to reverse later.

0:32:59.660,0:33:02.860
The database schema is something that is very[br]difficult

0:33:02.860,0:33:05.230
to reverse. ActiveRecord makes you do that[br]upfront. Any

0:33:05.230,0:33:08.900
model that is tied to ActiveRecord, you can't[br]write

0:33:08.900,0:33:10.809
this without connecting to database and all[br]that. We

0:33:10.809,0:33:12.600
need to define schema up front.

0:33:12.600,0:33:17.640
Which I think is troublesome. So it kind of

0:33:17.640,0:33:21.770
makes it difficult to decouple the core business[br]logic

0:33:21.770,0:33:24.030
from the framework. Most of the stuff you're[br]writing

0:33:24.030,0:33:26.480
is tightly coupled with the framework. Something[br]new comes

0:33:26.480,0:33:28.730
up, you need to rewrite the entire thing.[br]There's

0:33:28.730,0:33:31.770
no, nothing that can you, you can take to

0:33:31.770,0:33:35.210
that new, new framework.

0:33:35.210,0:33:40.190
There other things, like, so whenever you[br]encounter situations

0:33:40.190,0:33:43.000
which were not thought of when the framework[br]was

0:33:43.000,0:33:46.070
designed, there are no points that allow you[br]to

0:33:46.070,0:33:49.260
extend. There's no easy way to customize the[br]ID

0:33:49.260,0:33:53.590
generator, logic. There's no easy way to incorporate[br]composite

0:33:53.590,0:33:55.790
keys. So the project I was working on,w e

0:33:55.790,0:34:00.760
needed to use mySQL partitions. So I can't[br]use

0:34:00.760,0:34:02.420
mySQL ID generation. I have to use auto composite

0:34:02.420,0:34:03.210
keys.

0:34:03.210,0:34:04.700
And there was no easy way of doing it.

0:34:04.700,0:34:07.860
There's a plugin that provides composite key[br]support, if

0:34:07.860,0:34:10.099
you go look at the implementation of that,[br]you'd

0:34:10.099,0:34:13.168
be scared to use it. So it's like, gorilla

0:34:13.168,0:34:16.139
patching - monkey patching to the extreme.[br]So it

0:34:16.139,0:34:21.309
kind of like highlights some of the problems.[br]How

0:34:21.309,0:34:24.609
the code to framework has been written.

0:34:24.609,0:34:27.379
And there are other features that I like and

0:34:27.379,0:34:30.399
other form mapping?? frameworks [00:34:29].[br]Like you load a

0:34:30.399,0:34:32.440
bunch of objects, do something on it, at the

0:34:32.440,0:34:36.099
end they all get persisted to the database.[br]It's

0:34:36.099,0:34:39.929
automatic, dirty checking transaction right[br]behind. There's something called

0:34:39.929,0:34:42.710
a persistence data utility. I create an order,[br]order

0:34:42.710,0:34:44.339
line items, all this stuff.

0:34:44.339,0:34:46.998
I create save and it saves everything. So[br]limited

0:34:46.998,0:34:48.609
support for things like that.

0:34:48.609,0:34:51.690
These features are very important when you're[br]trying to

0:34:51.690,0:34:54.349
follow these practices, domain-driven design,[br]so you need to

0:34:54.349,0:34:57.099
work in terms of aggragates, so you need to

0:34:57.099,0:35:00.289
decouple your persistence logic from your[br]busienss logic. All

0:35:00.289,0:35:03.480
that is very, very hard to do if you're

0:35:03.480,0:35:04.140
using ActiveRecord.

0:35:04.140,0:35:07.499
So there are some alternatives.

0:35:07.499,0:35:09.549
So datamapper is a framework, but I think[br]it's

0:35:09.549,0:35:13.749
become stagnant. There's a new version of[br]it called

0:35:13.749,0:35:15.309
Ruby?? [00:35:13]. I don't see a release for[br]that

0:35:15.309,0:35:17.380
as yet. So those are some alternatives that[br]you

0:35:17.380,0:35:19.480
can look at.

0:35:19.480,0:35:25.239
Or, yeah. Look at something in other languages.[br]So

0:35:25.239,0:35:27.319
these are based on my observations of working[br]with

0:35:27.319,0:35:29.900
ActiveRecord for the last five months, and[br]I'm comparing

0:35:29.900,0:35:34.390
it with eight years I've spent working with[br]Hibernate,

0:35:34.390,0:35:39.619
and this looks like a toy compared to what

0:35:39.619,0:35:41.690
that can do.

0:35:41.690,0:35:43.059
Thank you.

0:35:43.059,0:35:45.359
NIRANJAN PARANJAPE: So, a few really good[br]talks. Heavy

0:35:45.359,0:35:45.509
talks. I'm gonna keep this light.

0:35:45.509,0:35:48.700
So any - talk abuot continous learning.

0:35:48.700,0:35:50.499
But before going there I want to talk about

0:35:50.499,0:35:51.749
what happens if you don't learn continuously.

0:35:51.749,0:35:53.680
So we have been doing interviews for quite[br]some

0:35:53.680,0:35:56.470
time. And these are a few gems I have

0:35:56.470,0:35:57.720
heard while doing interviews.

0:35:57.720,0:36:00.710
So I asked a question: Which programming language[br]do

0:36:00.710,0:36:01.989
you like?

0:36:01.989,0:36:04.499
Imagine the answer - come on.

0:36:04.499,0:36:05.569
AUDIENCE: Ruby!

0:36:05.569,0:36:08.999
N.P.: No. I program in Rails.

0:36:08.999,0:36:14.539
Go read RubyonRails dot org. You'll find something[br]different.

0:36:14.539,0:36:17.220
Someone asked me, why shouldn't I use GOTO?

0:36:17.220,0:36:19.499
After all language supports it.

0:36:19.499,0:36:22.170
Do you know anything about cyclomatic complexity?

0:36:22.170,0:36:24.470
Do you know what other feature language supports[br]which

0:36:24.470,0:36:26.970
are really bad programming constructs and[br]you should generally

0:36:26.970,0:36:27.259
avoid?

0:36:27.259,0:36:30.269
Go read about that.

0:36:30.269,0:36:32.700
So I started the interview. I spoke about[br]like,

0:36:32.700,0:36:34.489
OK we have been hearing a lot about, you

0:36:34.489,0:36:36.529
should ask skinny controllers and fat models,[br]and there

0:36:36.529,0:36:37.869
was a huge buzz about it.

0:36:37.869,0:36:40.099
Then we went and said that, no we actually

0:36:40.099,0:36:42.029
need thin models.

0:36:42.029,0:36:43.420
So where to I write my business logic.

0:36:43.420,0:36:45.529
And I wrote a response. Helpers.

0:36:45.529,0:36:50.589
I asked someone, how do you scale your application?

0:36:50.589,0:36:53.980
I got a response: I don't have to, I

0:36:53.980,0:36:55.559
deploy in Cloud.

0:36:55.559,0:36:58.970
I asked someone, can you talked about GC?

0:36:58.970,0:37:02.019
Oh, GC, garbage compiler. Let's talk about[br]it.

0:37:02.019,0:37:06.489
I asked someone, why is encapsulation important?

0:37:06.489,0:37:09.930
I heard, because the book says data security[br]is

0:37:09.930,0:37:10.390
important.

0:37:10.390,0:37:14.119
And, last noted, but not the least - I

0:37:14.119,0:37:15.989
have heard this, actually.

0:37:15.989,0:37:18.789
I don't believe in learning in my personal[br]time,

0:37:18.789,0:37:21.579
because I believe in work-life balance. Now,[br]my answer

0:37:21.579,0:37:24.369
to that person is, this is the doctor's roadside.

0:37:24.369,0:37:26.779
Are you going to go to him, or are

0:37:26.779,0:37:28.230
you going to go to him?

0:37:28.230,0:37:30.650
You want your doctor to continuously learn[br]and understand

0:37:30.650,0:37:33.950
his medical practices, and essentially keep[br]up with the

0:37:33.950,0:37:37.829
latest technology. You are a software programmer.[br]You are

0:37:37.829,0:37:39.769
You cannot afford to fall behind the scene.[br]You

0:37:39.769,0:37:40.900
have to keep learning.

0:37:40.900,0:37:43.049
How do you keep learning? Lots of books are

0:37:43.049,0:37:45.930
out there. How many of you have read Pragmatic

0:37:45.930,0:37:47.749
Programmer's Journeyman to Masterman?

0:37:47.749,0:37:50.650
How many of you have read it twice?

0:37:50.650,0:37:54.849
This is a book you should read every year.

0:37:54.849,0:38:00.109
It's a brilliant book. Coding Honor. Clear[br]coding. Wonderful

0:38:00.109,0:38:05.210
books. Read different blogs. Learn different[br]language or paradigm,

0:38:05.210,0:38:07.259
because what you learn there, you can essentially[br]translate

0:38:07.259,0:38:10.950
it into your understanding of programming[br]itself, and maybe

0:38:10.950,0:38:14.049
bring some parts in your actual code.

0:38:14.049,0:38:16.589
But just reading these things are not important.[br]Understand

0:38:16.589,0:38:18.910
the concept behind is important. Where do[br]you understand

0:38:18.910,0:38:20.069
the concept?

0:38:20.069,0:38:21.660
Maybe you can go to, read c2 dot com.

0:38:21.660,0:38:23.759
How many people know that? What is c2 dot

0:38:23.759,0:38:24.210
com?

0:38:24.210,0:38:26.609
It's a first Wiki. And then maybe you can

0:38:26.609,0:38:29.089
go to c2 dot com. And maybe you can

0:38:29.089,0:38:30.259
go to c2 dot com again, because that's a

0:38:30.259,0:38:33.779
brilliant, brilliant site.

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And most importantly, contribute to opensource.[br]We hear a

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lot about hey, you should contribute to opensource[br]because,

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you know, give back to the community, it's[br]fun.

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But there is one major aspect of contributing[br]to

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opensource that's just learning, self-learning.[br]And that is something

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which I have done a lot.

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How do you start? You start by reading code.

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Read what other people are writing.

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That's the first step in understanding how[br]to write

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better code.

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Essentially it allows you to pair with good[br]people,

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across the globe, and get their feedback about[br]your

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code. Talk to them about their design, their[br]understanding

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of programming. So it's a wonderful tool.

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Find a mentor if possible, and just, don't[br]just

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stop there. You have to actually go and become

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a mentor and teach someone what you have learned.

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So yeah. That's it.