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Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.22,0:00:18.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a very pleased to be here today talking
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.03,0:00:20.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Jonathan Tropper about his new
Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.77,0:00:22.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,novel one last thing before I go
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.69,0:00:24.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jonathan thank you for coming to talk to
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.76,0:00:26.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,us thank you for having me I'm glad to
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.26,0:00:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be here so tell me a little bit about
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.15,0:00:30.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this novel this is your sixth novel yes
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.28,0:00:32.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I've you know I've heard some of
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.98,0:00:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your earlier books I think this one is
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.42,0:00:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very was different for me it had a
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.43,0:00:40.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gravity to it that that was that's
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.53,0:00:43.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different from some of your earlier
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.97,0:00:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,books so how did you arrive at the
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.64,0:00:47.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,subject here and this particular
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.99,0:00:50.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,character the gravity kind of took me by
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.15,0:00:52.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surprise I generally set out you know to
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.63,0:00:54.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,write novels that are you know that do
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.91,0:00:58.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deal with pretty heavy issues generally
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.35,0:00:59.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,death and relationships family dynamics
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.43,0:01:02.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I but I do try to do it in a
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.87,0:01:03.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,light-hearted way and that that was my
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.45,0:01:05.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intention when I started writing this
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.77,0:01:07.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,book but gradually as I got into the
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.96,0:01:09.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,head of this character who really had
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.43,0:01:11.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had so much regret in his life and so
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.98,0:01:14.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many things he couldn't so many mistakes
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.90,0:01:17.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he could not correct I had never
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.93,0:01:20.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really written about someone who so past
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.45,0:01:22.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the point of redemption most of my
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.51,0:01:25.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,characters things go terribly wrong but
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.61,0:01:28.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the book is about them correcting that
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.43,0:01:29.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and and this guy we were meeting him at
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.07,0:01:32.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a later point in his life where those
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.75,0:01:34.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mistakes had been made years ago and he
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.87,0:01:37.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,couldn't correct them and I guess once I
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.37,0:01:40.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got into his head I started feeling that
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.88,0:01:42.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of regret and so it became a deeper
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.49,0:01:44.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and more textured study of this kind of
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.92,0:01:47.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,character so you know while there's
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.75,0:01:50.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still a lot of comedy in the book his
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.69,0:01:52.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,journey is definitely a darker journey
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.27,0:01:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and and I think that's what I used the
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.34,0:01:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,book with a little more gravity than the
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.41,0:01:58.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,others and it's very interesting
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.45,0:02:00.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,portrait of a man sort of at that
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.22,0:02:03.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,midlife point who's very you know he's
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.80,0:02:05.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very honest with himself and honest
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.71,0:02:07.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what he how he's feeling and where
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.66,0:02:10.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's at and I think it makes him very
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.85,0:02:13.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,real and in spite of the fact that you
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.82,0:02:15.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know the sort of the burden of his of
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.34,0:02:17.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his past and his choices so weighs so
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.77,0:02:21.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heavily upon him I think that
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.67,0:02:24.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he he stands up to it in a way that I I
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.69,0:02:26.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think makes the novel very interesting
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.60,0:02:28.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're one of the things that I found
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.49,0:02:32.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appealing about writing this character
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.89,0:02:33.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of silver is that he's reached a point
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.22,0:02:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where he doesn't even have pretensions
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.87,0:02:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anymore it's so clear if you just look
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.72,0:02:41.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at him and you know there's this crappy
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.94,0:02:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,apartment he lives in this the the fact
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.19,0:02:45.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he was lunch uh you know something
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.68,0:02:47.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a rock star now he plays in a
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.72,0:02:49.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,third-rate wedding band the fact that
Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.37,0:02:51.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's estranged from his daughter he's
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.41,0:02:55.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,estranged from his ex-wife he's he's
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.93,0:02:57.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lost touch with his family even it's he
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.95,0:03:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really has nothing and when you reach
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.57,0:03:03.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that point there's no longer any denial
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.96,0:03:04.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's no longer any posing and trying
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.33,0:03:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to seem like you have more than you have
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.83,0:03:10.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he he's just he's one of the lonely
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.20,0:03:12.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people and that's who he is and that's
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.35,0:03:16.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how he identifies himself so there's no
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.17,0:03:18.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's no there's no delusions and you
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.59,0:03:20.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know how do you know when we meet him at
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.54,0:03:23.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that point where he's you know he's just
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.61,0:03:25.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of it at the baseline he has in
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.22,0:03:29.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fact a life-or-death decision yeah
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.95,0:03:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before him and he he he goes against the
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.61,0:03:33.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,grain did you see that happening with
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.68,0:03:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,him I mean is that that was always the
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.90,0:03:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plan of the book was you know it's
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.24,0:03:40.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always just assumed you know that you're
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.70,0:03:42.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to fight for your life whatever
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.71,0:03:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether it's cancer whether it's a heart
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.69,0:03:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,defect whether it's a bullet you know
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.40,0:03:47.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever it is that no matter what's
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.50,0:03:50.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going on in your life you're going to
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.70,0:03:52.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just fight to keep living which to me is
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.91,0:03:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a very human train and it's both an
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.95,0:03:56.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instinct and it has to do I think with
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.90,0:03:58.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hope that you know we all no matter
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.79,0:04:00.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's going on in our lives we all
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.05,0:04:02.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,believe our lives are worth living and I
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.81,0:04:04.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanted to deal with a guy who actually
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.43,0:04:06.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,may not believe that and none of his
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.95,0:04:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family and none of his friends can
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.45,0:04:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,believe that he really doesn't believe
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.40,0:04:13.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that but here's a guy who really isn't
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.62,0:04:15.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sure he wants to save his own life and
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.22,0:04:17.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the idea that he makes this decision not
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.81,0:04:20.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have the life-saving operation and
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.94,0:04:22.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nobody else can understand it but but
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.46,0:04:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're in his head and we do understand
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.05,0:04:25.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he might be ready to check out now
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.48,0:04:27.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.05,0:04:29.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,continue living this empty life and what
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.75,0:04:33.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do you think about that I mean is he is
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.46,0:04:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it brave to you or is it is it I don't
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.72,0:04:39.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank for it well I don't think it's
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.28,0:04:41.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brave because the brave thing is to you
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.12,0:04:44.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know to keep going and to try to fix
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.10,0:04:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your life and try to do better to me I
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.58,0:04:50.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think what it is is he's giving himself
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.38,0:04:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a deadline he's saying these are the
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.37,0:04:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things I've done wrong these are the
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.60,0:04:56.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things i need to be better at and if I
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.72,0:04:58.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,die before I get them done and I don't
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.37,0:04:59.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deserve to live and if I get them done
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.14,0:05:02.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then maybe I'll consider the operation
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.85,0:05:05.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he's basically saying you know this
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.31,0:05:06.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is my wake-up call and I'm going to look
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.40,0:05:09.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,death in the eye while I try to fix
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.99,0:05:11.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these things how do you kind of process
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.51,0:05:12.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how that decision impacts the people
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.43,0:05:15.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around him the people that you that he
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.99,0:05:18.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feels sort of a drift from that he's
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.54,0:05:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he's people he failed in his life
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.06,0:05:23.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his wife and his daughter like that
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.68,0:05:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decision kind of lights a fire under
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.43,0:05:27.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them and it in a unique way yeah I mean
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.16,0:05:28.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that that's the whole thing is no
Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.57,0:05:31.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,matter how a strange you are from
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.95,0:05:34.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody we all kind of throw all of our
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.53,0:05:35.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our personal issues aside when it gets
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.23,0:05:39.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to life and death I mean there's very
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.76,0:05:43.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,few family members who won't show up for
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.51,0:05:46.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you in a time of crisis regardless of of
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.41,0:05:47.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you've been through so they do show
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.26,0:05:48.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up for him because they feel connected
Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.73,0:05:51.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to him but they're also deeply
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.93,0:05:55.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,frustrated by his behavior over the last
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.54,0:05:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seven years and now his refusal to to
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.62,0:06:00.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of save his own life and so it's
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.72,0:06:02.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this weird tension that exists in this
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.36,0:06:03.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family where they've all come together
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.19,0:06:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try to help him but he's not
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.78,0:06:08.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interested in being helped and they're
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.36,0:06:10.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not really interested in being there
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.25,0:06:11.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's just it's it's just weird dynamic
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.86,0:06:13.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they were all sort of thrown
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.79,0:06:16.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together by this you know this sort of
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.71,0:06:18.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,radical decision he's made to to not
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.20,0:06:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,save his life and to me I mean at
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.54,0:06:23.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certain points and I think some of the
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.10,0:06:24.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,humor of the story helps drive this home
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.67,0:06:26.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for me
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.65,0:06:28.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he is on this he's done this weird sort
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.51,0:06:30.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of George Bailey trip like he thought
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.52,0:06:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,George Bailey but he's in that crisis of
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.44,0:06:34.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know what if I you're the second
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.96,0:06:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,person who said George going to be an
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.79,0:06:38.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,end I'd never occurred to me I mean he's
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.98,0:06:41.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not that's why I mean it's sort of a
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.51,0:06:44.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slant connection right because he's not
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.35,0:06:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's not that guy but in certain moments
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.84,0:06:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and certainly in the desperation of that
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.36,0:06:51.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's staring down the barrel of it but
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.30,0:06:54.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way that you treat his journey is
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.62,0:06:55.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really clever and I think that it raises
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.11,0:06:58.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the him up from where we first meet him
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.94,0:07:01.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you know when I started reading a
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.01,0:07:03.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,psycho my goodness like how are we gonna
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.37,0:07:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come out of this and he really he really
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.50,0:07:09.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does have an interesting path well
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.04,0:07:10.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's an honesty to him that I enjoyed
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.08,0:07:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,writing that you know he's like like I
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.85,0:07:13.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said before he's reached this point
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.08,0:07:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you know we all lie to ourselves
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.91,0:07:17.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we all tell ourselves if I can just do
Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.28,0:07:18.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this things will get better if I could
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.45,0:07:20.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just do that things will go better and
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.77,0:07:23.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's just past the point of lying to
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.84,0:07:25.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,himself and he's just he knows this is
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.57,0:07:27.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what his life is and then as he starts
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.73,0:07:30.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having these mini strokes because of his
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.74,0:07:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heart situation that forces him to be
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.23,0:07:33.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not just honest with himself but honest
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.18,0:07:35.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with other people and and it creates
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.74,0:07:37.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this dynamic where this is what happens
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.78,0:07:39.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we actually tell the truth to each
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.22,0:07:41.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other which we don't generally do so I
Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.62,0:07:46.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was interested in that what do you think
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.87,0:07:48.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was like you know at 24 like where
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.19,0:07:49.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did he go wrong like well I think where
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.47,0:07:51.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he went wrong in this particular case
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.97,0:07:54.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was you know he was a drummer he was a
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.47,0:07:56.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rock star and he he tasted Fame I mean
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.89,0:07:59.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his band had this one hit that made them
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.63,0:08:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,superstars and then the whole thing fell
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.39,0:08:04.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,apart really quickly and once you've
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.08,0:08:06.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been there nothing else seems good
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.79,0:08:08.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enough again and and he just always
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.59,0:08:11.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,believed he was going to get back there
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.78,0:08:12.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but of course he never did and so his
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.21,0:08:15.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whole regular life where he had so many
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.89,0:08:16.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things to appreciate he just stopped
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.26,0:08:19.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appreciating them because he had once
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.70,0:08:21.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been a rocket and and he never recovered
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.58,0:08:23.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from that it's like the thing that he
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.86,0:08:26.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can't let go up yeah and it's it's just
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.90,0:08:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like yeah he just he lost the ability to
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.60,0:08:29.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appreciate things like a wife and a
Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.34,0:08:31.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,daughter and
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.33,0:08:33.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a family and it was all about being
Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.79,0:08:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a superstar and he was a superstar so
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.95,0:08:37.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,briefly was just like one second but
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.84,0:08:39.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that one second colored everything
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.34,0:08:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,afterwards how do you think that male
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.20,0:08:44.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,readers will react to true and the way
Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.50,0:08:46.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he I think they'll appreciate the
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.03,0:08:48.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reins I think they'll appreciate some of
Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.40,0:08:50.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the stuff he says I mean he's really
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.02,0:08:53.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of I was uncomfortable writing some
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.51,0:08:56.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the stuff he says I mean he says this
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.27,0:08:58.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stuff many men sometimes think without
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.54,0:09:00.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying and you know the way he assesses
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.64,0:09:01.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those college girls who hang out at the
Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.38,0:09:05.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,swimming pool the way he assesses his
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.94,0:09:08.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,own sexuality the way he assesses his uh
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.09,0:09:10.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his place on the flick on the dating
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.39,0:09:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,food chain and you know he's he's
Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.55,0:09:14.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brutally honest with himself but he's
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.02,0:09:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also brutally honest about the women and
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.30,0:09:18.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the people around him and and
Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.92,0:09:19.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's something really fun about being
Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.05,0:09:23.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with somebody who has no filter and I
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.79,0:09:24.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has absolutely no filter so you've done
Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.15,0:09:27.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just wanted to switch topic just
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.68,0:09:29.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quickly you've done some writing for for
Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.53,0:09:32.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,TV and film and you're just developing a
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.66,0:09:33.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,news a new series yeah we're shooting it
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.03,0:09:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually it's it's developed its
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.68,0:09:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developed so tell me tell me a little
Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.84,0:09:40.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bit more about that our television show
Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.06,0:09:42.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is for HBO cinemax it's called banshee
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.34,0:09:44.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's very different from my books
Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.02,0:09:46.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and say it's a one-hour drama very much
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.63,0:09:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the spirit of david cronenberg er the
Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.37,0:09:52.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Coen brothers uh Bob's you know a lot of
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.40,0:09:54.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of violence a lot of sexuality
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.09,0:09:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gangsters that kind of thing set in
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.77,0:09:59.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,modern-day Pennsylvania and that's
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.04,0:10:02.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something we're shooting 10 episodes now
Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.36,0:10:04.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Cinemax produced by HBO and just
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.99,0:10:07.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using a different muscle there's a lot
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.55,0:10:09.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of fun and I recently finished adapting
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.52,0:10:10.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my last book this is where I leave you
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.20,0:10:12.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Warner Brothers and that's actually
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.97,0:10:15.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scheduled to start shooting this
Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.23,0:10:17.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,September in New York and I'm very
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.59,0:10:19.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,excited about that how was that
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.06,0:10:22.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experience writing for screen versus oh
Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.51,0:10:23.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's just a different like I said it's a
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.13,0:10:25.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way to diversify your mind creatively
Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.93,0:10:28.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a very different kind of writing
Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.54,0:10:30.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this book one last thing before I go is
Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.13,0:10:31.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just an option by paramount and I'll be
Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.05,0:10:32.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,writing the screenplay for that as well
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.43,0:10:35.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.88,0:10:37.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a way to kind of take the story
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.20,0:10:41.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've written as a novel and tell a new
Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.51,0:10:44.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,story on film it's a it's different and
Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.41,0:10:46.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's just it's if you just sit and write
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.35,0:10:49.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prose all day at least I I'll just I'll
Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.99,0:10:51.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,burn out from that it's fun to be able
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.63,0:10:55.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to put that aside and then open up final
Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.46,0:10:57.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,draft and start writing scenes yeah do
Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.15,0:10:59.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you get to write more female characters
Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.37,0:11:01.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like it when you're working in this new
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.53,0:11:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shower yeah we have it we have a really
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.81,0:11:08.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strong female lead and yeah i mean my
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.52,0:11:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,books do tend to generally have a male
Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.56,0:11:13.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protagonist only because that that's
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.92,0:11:15.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what comes naturally but but i do try to
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.87,0:11:16.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spend a lot of time on the female
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.16,0:11:18.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,characters in the book and make sure
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.54,0:11:20.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they're that they're real humans
Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.61,0:11:22.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not just there to be the female
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.44,0:11:23.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,character and right you know I've been
Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.27,0:11:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,told sometimes I've been really
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.59,0:11:26.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,successful I didn't i've been told
Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.88,0:11:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes I haven't been and you know
Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.53,0:11:31.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you just keep trying right in 601 some
Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.48,0:11:33.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people yeah get it some people tell you
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.09,0:11:35.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how you just keep going well thank you
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.58,0:11:37.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for being here today I'm sorry good cock
Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.05,0:11:37.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you for having me