WEBVTT 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:02.096 All life, 00:00:02.120 --> 00:00:03.856 every living thing ever, 00:00:03.880 --> 00:00:06.816 has been built according to the information in DNA. 00:00:06.840 --> 00:00:08.216 What does that mean? 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:10.736 Well, it means that just as the English language 00:00:10.760 --> 00:00:13.976 is made up of alphabetic letters that, when combined into words, 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:16.816 allow me to tell you the story I'm going to tell you today, 00:00:16.840 --> 00:00:20.936 DNA is made up of genetic letters that, when combined into genes, 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:22.696 allow cells to produce proteins, 00:00:22.720 --> 00:00:25.776 strings of amino acids that fold up into complex structures 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:28.816 that perform the functions that allow a cell to do what it does, 00:00:28.840 --> 00:00:30.576 to tell its stories. 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:34.536 The English alphabet has 26 letters, and the genetic alphabet has four. 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:36.936 They're pretty famous. Maybe you've heard of them. 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:39.280 They are often just referred to as G, C, A and T. 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:43.936 But it's remarkable that all the diversity of life 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:46.040 is the result of four genetic letters. 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:51.256 Imagine what it would be like if the English alphabet had four letters. 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:53.560 What sort of stories would you be able to tell? 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:57.440 What if the genetic alphabet had more letters? 00:00:59.440 --> 00:01:02.416 Would life with more letters be able to tell different stories, 00:01:02.440 --> 00:01:04.440 maybe even more interesting ones? NOTE Paragraph 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:10.296 In 1999, my lab at the Scripps Research Institute in La Jolla, California 00:01:10.320 --> 00:01:14.016 started working on this question with the goal of creating living organisms 00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:17.056 with DNA made up of a six-letter genetic alphabet, 00:01:17.080 --> 00:01:21.560 the four natural letters plus two additional new man-made letters. 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:24.376 Such an organism would be 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:27.256 the first radically altered form of life ever created. 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:29.216 It would be a semisynthetic form of life 00:01:29.240 --> 00:01:33.120 that stores more information than life ever has before. 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:35.976 It would be able to make new proteins, 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:38.736 proteins built from more than the 20 normal amino acids 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:40.680 that are usually used to build proteins. 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:43.640 What sort of stories could that life tell? NOTE Paragraph 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:48.216 With the power of synthetic chemistry and molecular biology 00:01:48.240 --> 00:01:49.816 and just under 20 years of work, 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:52.376 we created bacteria with six-letter DNA. 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:53.829 Let me tell you how we did it. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:57.176 All you have to remember from your high school biology 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:00.696 is that the four natural letters pair together to form two base pairs. 00:02:00.720 --> 00:02:02.976 G pairs with C and A pairs with T, 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:04.816 so to create our new letters, 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:08.376 we synthesized hundreds of new candidates, new candidate letters, 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:11.448 and examined their abilities to selectively pair with each other. 00:02:11.472 --> 00:02:13.176 And after about 15 years of work, 00:02:13.200 --> 00:02:15.776 we found two that paired together really well, 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:17.496 at least in a test tube. 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:19.216 They have complicated names, 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:20.860 but let's just call them X and Y. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:25.376 The next thing we needed to do was find a way to get X and Y into cells, 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:28.936 and eventually we found that a protein that does something similar in algae 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:30.336 worked in our bacteria. 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:34.856 So the final thing that we needed to do was to show that with X and Y provided, 00:02:34.880 --> 00:02:38.400 cells could grow and divide and hold on to X and Y in their DNA. 00:02:39.880 --> 00:02:42.976 Everything we had done up to then took longer than I had hoped -- 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:45.016 I am actually a really impatient person -- 00:02:45.040 --> 00:02:48.840 but this, the most important step, worked faster than I dreamed, 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:51.040 basically immediately. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:52.640 --> 00:02:54.856 On a weekend in 2014, 00:02:54.880 --> 00:02:57.960 a graduate student in my lab grew bacteria with six-letter DNA. 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:01.776 Let me take the opportunity to introduce you to them right now. 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:03.440 This is an actual picture of them. 00:03:04.880 --> 00:03:07.320 These are the first semisynthetic organisms. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:09.480 --> 00:03:12.256 So bacteria with six-letter DNA, that's really cool, right? 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:14.720 Well, maybe some of you are still wondering why. 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:18.856 So let me tell you a little bit more about some of our motivations, 00:03:18.880 --> 00:03:20.816 both conceptual and practical. 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:23.536 Conceptually, people have thought about life, what it is, 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:26.176 what makes it different from things that are not alive, 00:03:26.200 --> 00:03:27.856 since people have had thoughts. 00:03:27.880 --> 00:03:30.176 Many have interpreted life as being perfect, 00:03:30.200 --> 00:03:32.696 and this was taken as evidence of a creator. 00:03:32.720 --> 00:03:36.376 Living things are different because a god breathed life into them. 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:38.736 Others have sought a more scientific explanation, 00:03:38.760 --> 00:03:40.136 but I think it's fair to say 00:03:40.160 --> 00:03:43.056 that they still consider the molecules of life to be special. 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:46.496 I mean, evolution has been optimizing them for billions of years, right? 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:49.456 Whatever perspective you take, it would seem pretty impossible 00:03:49.480 --> 00:03:51.496 for chemists to come in and build new parts 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:54.536 that function within and alongside the natural molecules of life 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:56.920 without somehow really screwing everything up. 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:01.456 But just how perfectly created or evolved are we? 00:04:01.480 --> 00:04:03.720 Just how special are the molecules of life? 00:04:04.640 --> 00:04:06.976 These questions have been impossible to even ask, 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:09.120 because we've had nothing to compare life to. 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:11.976 Now for the first time, our work suggests 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:14.696 that maybe the molecules of life aren't that special. 00:04:14.720 --> 00:04:17.760 Maybe life as we know it isn't the only way it could be. 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:22.136 Maybe we're not the only solution, maybe not even the best solution, 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:23.600 just a solution. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:28.176 These questions address fundamental issues about life, 00:04:28.200 --> 00:04:30.056 but maybe they seem a little esoteric. 00:04:30.080 --> 00:04:31.816 So what about practical motivations? 00:04:31.840 --> 00:04:34.616 Well, we want to explore what sort of new stories 00:04:34.640 --> 00:04:36.736 life with an expanded vocabulary could tell, 00:04:36.760 --> 00:04:39.976 and remember, stories here are the proteins that a cell produces 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:41.376 and the functions they have. 00:04:41.400 --> 00:04:44.496 So what sort of new proteins with new types of functions 00:04:44.520 --> 00:04:48.176 could our semisynthetic organisms make and maybe even use? 00:04:48.200 --> 00:04:50.160 Well, we have a couple of things in mind. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:55.816 The first is to get the cells to make proteins for us, for our use. 00:04:55.840 --> 00:04:57.256 Proteins are being used today 00:04:57.280 --> 00:05:00.016 for an increasingly broad range of different applications, 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:02.296 from materials that protect soldiers from injury 00:05:02.320 --> 00:05:04.536 to devices that detect dangerous compounds, 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:05.896 but at least to me, 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:08.320 the most exciting application is protein drugs. 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:10.576 Despite being relatively new, 00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:13.016 protein drugs have already revolutionized medicine, 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:15.736 and, for example, insulin is a protein. 00:05:15.760 --> 00:05:18.616 You've probably heard of it, and it's manufactured as a drug 00:05:18.640 --> 00:05:21.296 that has completely changed how we treat diabetes. 00:05:21.320 --> 00:05:24.296 But the problem is that proteins are really hard to make 00:05:24.320 --> 00:05:27.920 and the only practical way to get them is to get cells to make them for you. 00:05:28.880 --> 00:05:30.576 So of course, with natural cells, 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:34.096 you can only get them to make proteins with the natural amino acids, 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:36.336 and so the properties those proteins can have, 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:38.856 the applications they could be developed for, 00:05:38.880 --> 00:05:41.376 must be limited by the nature of those amino acids 00:05:41.400 --> 00:05:42.896 that the protein's built from. 00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:44.136 So here they are, 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:47.416 the 20 normal amino acids that are strung together to make a protein, 00:05:47.440 --> 00:05:50.296 and I think you can see, they're not that different-looking. 00:05:50.320 --> 00:05:52.536 They don't bring that many different functions. 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:55.216 They don't make that many different functions available. 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:58.816 Compare that with the small molecules that synthetic chemists make as drugs. 00:05:58.840 --> 00:06:00.776 Now, they're much simpler than proteins, 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:04.216 but they're routinely built from a much broader range of diverse things. 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:06.176 Don't worry about the molecular details, 00:06:06.200 --> 00:06:08.416 but I think you can see how different they are. 00:06:08.440 --> 00:06:11.376 And in fact, it's their differences that make them great drugs 00:06:11.400 --> 00:06:12.776 to treat different diseases. 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:16.976 So it's really provocative to wonder what sort of new protein drugs 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:20.360 you could develop if you could build proteins from more diverse things. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:21.840 --> 00:06:23.776 So can we get our semisynthetic organism 00:06:23.800 --> 00:06:27.016 to make proteins that include new and different amino acids, 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:29.296 maybe amino acids selected to confer the protein 00:06:29.320 --> 00:06:31.400 with some desired property or function? 00:06:32.640 --> 00:06:33.896 For example, 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:37.056 many proteins just aren't stable when you inject them into people. 00:06:37.080 --> 00:06:39.256 They are rapidly degraded or eliminated, 00:06:39.280 --> 00:06:41.080 and this stops them from being drugs. 00:06:42.080 --> 00:06:44.496 What if we could make proteins with new amino acids 00:06:44.520 --> 00:06:46.336 with things attached to them 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:48.336 that protect them from their environment, 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:51.536 that protect them from being degraded or eliminated, 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:53.240 so that they could be better drugs? 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:57.976 Could we make proteins with little fingers attached 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:00.480 that specifically grab on to other molecules? 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:04.216 Many small molecules failed during development as drugs 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:07.176 because they just weren't specific enough to find their target 00:07:07.200 --> 00:07:09.336 in the complex environment of the human body. 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:12.976 So could we take those molecules and make them parts of new amino acids 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:15.776 that, when incorporated into a protein, 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:18.160 are guided by that protein to their target? NOTE Paragraph 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:22.216 I started a biotech company called Synthorx. 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:24.856 Synthorx stands for synthetic organism 00:07:24.880 --> 00:07:28.536 with an X added at the end because that's what you do with biotech companies. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:29.976 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:32.016 Synthorx is working closely with my lab, 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:36.376 and they're interested in a protein that recognizes a certain receptor 00:07:36.400 --> 00:07:38.096 on the surface of human cells. 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:40.576 But the problem is that it also recognizes 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:43.296 another receptor on the surface of those same cells, 00:07:43.320 --> 00:07:44.960 and that makes it toxic. 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:47.936 So could we produce a variant of that protein 00:07:47.960 --> 00:07:52.296 where the part that interacts with that second bad receptor is shielded, 00:07:52.320 --> 00:07:54.256 blocked by something like a big umbrella 00:07:54.280 --> 00:07:57.360 so that the protein only interacts with that first good receptor? 00:07:58.520 --> 00:08:00.256 Doing that would be really difficult 00:08:00.280 --> 00:08:02.536 or impossible to do with the normal amino acids, 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:06.000 but not with amino acids that are specifically designed for that purpose. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:08.520 --> 00:08:11.696 So getting our semisynthetic cells to act as little factories 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:13.216 to produce better protein drugs 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:15.976 isn't the only potentially really interesting application, 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:19.400 because remember, it's the proteins that allow cells to do what they do. 00:08:20.320 --> 00:08:23.616 So if we have cells that make new proteins with new functions, 00:08:23.640 --> 00:08:27.216 could we get them to do things that natural cells can't do? 00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:30.016 For example, could we develop semisynthetic organisms 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:34.176 that when injected into a person, seek out cancer cells 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:37.520 and only when they find them, secrete a toxic protein that kills them? 00:08:38.400 --> 00:08:41.336 Could we create bacteria that eat different kinds of oil, 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.256 maybe to clean up an oil spill? 00:08:43.280 --> 00:08:45.496 These are just a couple of the types of stories 00:08:45.520 --> 00:08:48.776 that we're going to see if life with an expanded vocabulary can tell. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:48.800 --> 00:08:50.296 So, sounds great, right? 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:53.216 Injecting semisynthetic organisms into people, 00:08:53.240 --> 00:08:56.616 dumping millions and millions of gallons of our bacteria into the ocean 00:08:56.640 --> 00:08:58.136 or out on your favorite beach? 00:08:58.160 --> 00:09:00.616 Oh, wait a minute, actually it sounds really scary. 00:09:00.640 --> 00:09:02.640 This dinosaur is really scary. 00:09:04.480 --> 00:09:06.256 But here's the catch: 00:09:06.280 --> 00:09:09.856 our semisynthetic organisms in order to survive, 00:09:09.880 --> 00:09:12.800 need to be fed the chemical precursors of X and Y. 00:09:13.800 --> 00:09:17.280 X and Y are completely different than anything that exists in nature. 00:09:18.160 --> 00:09:20.760 Cells just don't have them or the ability to make them. 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:22.856 So when we prepare them, 00:09:22.880 --> 00:09:25.816 when we grow them up in the controlled environment of the lab, 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:27.936 we can feed them lots of the unnatural food. 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:31.296 Then, when we deploy them in a person or out on a beach 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:34.016 where they no longer have access that special food, 00:09:34.040 --> 00:09:37.136 they can grow for a little bit, they can survive for a little, 00:09:37.160 --> 00:09:40.656 maybe just long enough to perform some intended function, 00:09:40.680 --> 00:09:42.816 but then they start to run out of the food. 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:44.176 They start to starve. 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:46.320 They starve to death and they just disappear. 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:49.896 So not only could we get life to tell new stories, 00:09:49.920 --> 00:09:52.920 we get to tell life when and where to tell those stories. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:58.616 At the beginning of this talk I told you that we reported in 2014 00:09:58.640 --> 00:10:01.856 the creation of semisynthetic organisms that store more information, 00:10:01.880 --> 00:10:03.976 X and Y, in their DNA. 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:06.456 But all the motivations that we just talked about 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:08.936 require cells to use X and Y to make proteins, 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:10.640 so we started working on that. 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:15.296 Within a couple years, we showed that the cells could take DNA with X and Y 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:18.160 and copy it into RNA, the working copy of DNA. 00:10:19.560 --> 00:10:21.376 And late last year, 00:10:21.400 --> 00:10:24.536 we showed that they could then use X and Y to make proteins. 00:10:24.560 --> 00:10:27.216 Here they are, the stars of the show, 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:30.720 the first fully-functional semisynthetic organisms. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:31.560 --> 00:10:36.200 (Applause) NOTE Paragraph 00:10:38.040 --> 00:10:41.536 These cells are green because they're making a protein that glows green. 00:10:41.560 --> 00:10:44.096 It's a pretty famous protein, actually, from jellyfish 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:46.216 that a lot of people use in its natural form 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:48.280 because it's easy to see that you made it. 00:10:49.280 --> 00:10:51.176 But within every one of these proteins, 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:54.960 there's a new amino acid that natural life can't build proteins with. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:57.160 --> 00:11:01.000 Every living cell, every living cell ever, 00:11:02.160 --> 00:11:04.536 has made every one of its proteins 00:11:04.560 --> 00:11:06.600 using a four-letter genetic alphabet. 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:11.856 These cells are living and growing and making protein 00:11:11.880 --> 00:11:13.776 with a six-letter alphabet. 00:11:13.800 --> 00:11:15.200 These are a new form of life. 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:18.520 This is a semisynthetic form of life. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:21.616 So what about the future? 00:11:21.640 --> 00:11:25.216 My lab is already working on expanding the genetic alphabet of other cells, 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:26.456 including human cells, 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:30.136 and we're getting ready to start working on more complex organisms. 00:11:30.160 --> 00:11:31.960 Think semisynthetic worms. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:35.096 The last thing I want to say to you, 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:37.536 the most important thing that I want to say to you, 00:11:37.560 --> 00:11:39.920 is that the time of semisynthetic life is here. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:40.760 --> 00:11:42.016 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:42.040 --> 00:11:46.720 (Applause) NOTE Paragraph 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:55.976 Chris Anderson: I mean, Floyd, this is so remarkable. 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:58.736 I just wanted to ask you, 00:11:58.760 --> 00:12:01.256 what are the implications of your work 00:12:01.280 --> 00:12:05.136 for how we should think about the possibilities for life, 00:12:05.160 --> 00:12:07.416 like, in the universe, elsewhere? 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:11.576 It just seems like so much of life, or so much of our assumptions are based 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:14.456 on the fact that of course, it's got to be DNA, 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:18.736 but is the possibility space of self-replicating molecules 00:12:18.760 --> 00:12:21.856 much bigger than DNA, even just DNA with six letters? NOTE Paragraph 00:12:21.880 --> 00:12:24.256 Floyd Romesberg: Absolutely, I think that's right, 00:12:24.280 --> 00:12:26.016 and I think what our work has shown, 00:12:26.040 --> 00:12:29.736 as I mentioned, is that there's been always this prejudice 00:12:29.760 --> 00:12:31.136 that sort of we're perfect, 00:12:31.160 --> 00:12:33.736 we're optimal, God created us this way, 00:12:33.760 --> 00:12:35.856 evolution perfected us this way. 00:12:35.880 --> 00:12:39.160 We've made molecules that work right alongside the natural ones, 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:43.656 and I think that suggests that any molecules 00:12:43.680 --> 00:12:46.336 that obey the fundamental laws of chemistry and physics 00:12:46.360 --> 00:12:47.616 and you can optimize them 00:12:47.640 --> 00:12:50.376 could do the things that the natural molecules of life do. 00:12:50.400 --> 00:12:52.136 There's nothing magic there. 00:12:52.160 --> 00:12:53.536 And I think that it suggests 00:12:53.560 --> 00:12:55.616 that life could evolve many different ways, 00:12:55.640 --> 00:12:58.496 maybe similar to us with other types of DNA, 00:12:58.520 --> 00:13:00.240 maybe things without DNA at all. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:02.376 CA: I mean, in your mind, 00:13:02.400 --> 00:13:05.736 how big might that possibility space be? 00:13:05.760 --> 00:13:09.416 Do we even know? Are most things going to look something like a DNA molecule, 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:12.376 or something radically different that can still self-reproduce 00:13:12.400 --> 00:13:14.336 and potentially create living organisms? NOTE Paragraph 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:16.856 FR: My personal opinion is that if we found new life, 00:13:16.880 --> 00:13:19.096 we might not even recognize it. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:22.056 CA: So this obsession with the search for Goldilocks planets 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:24.496 in exactly the right place with water and whatever, 00:13:24.520 --> 00:13:26.816 that's a very parochial assumption, perhaps. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:30.256 FR: Well, if you want to find someone you can talk to, then maybe not, 00:13:30.280 --> 00:13:33.176 but I think that if you're just looking for any form of life, 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:37.096 I think that's right, I think that you're looking for life under the light post. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:40.456 CA: Thank you for boggling all our minds. Thank so much, Floyd. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:43.120 (Applause)