WEBVTT 00:00:13.910 --> 00:00:20.061 I think I care about beauty, but I don't go for it. 00:00:20.627 --> 00:00:24.093 I hope it sometimes might be in there. 00:00:24.093 --> 00:00:31.561 I think maybe more in terms of a beautiful moment than trying to figure out what beauty is. 00:00:34.294 --> 00:00:39.095 I hope that my paintings can be emotional moments for people. 00:00:43.294 --> 00:00:49.727 I just know that it takes a certain emotion to lock in for me to commit to a painting. 00:00:50.142 --> 00:00:56.200 And a certain timidity at first, and then the second painting, and then I might go back to the first painting, 00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:58.317 And force more bravery on it. 00:00:58.317 --> 00:01:01.851 Oh, this is okay. You can handle this. 00:01:06.016 --> 00:01:10.100 I have given myself full range of the painting. 00:01:11.784 --> 00:01:19.092 I don't limit myself in anyway. I know I'm not a landscape painter. I know that. I know that's sombody else's job. 00:01:19.092 --> 00:01:21.808 And I don't think I'm a still life painter. 00:01:21.808 --> 00:01:28.283 But I would like to think that I can paint portraits, which I have not successfully done. 00:01:28.784 --> 00:01:34.151 I like to think that the whole thing is wide open and then I don't have to abide by any rules, anymore. 00:01:34.151 --> 00:01:41.083 But I was happy too, when I was young, because it looked like a very radical world. 00:01:41.083 --> 00:01:44.555 And I really wanted to be part of it. 00:01:47.211 --> 00:01:53.022 We had to put that dog down, because she was in kidney failure. 00:01:53.472 --> 00:02:01.506 And I was holding her before the doctor did that, and I wanted to make a painting about it. 00:02:01.557 --> 00:02:04.295 How it felt, to remember her by. 00:02:04.295 --> 00:02:12.599 And I've had the arm everywhere you see this darker tone. I've had the arm there. [chuckles] 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:16.882 I had it like this, like this, then I could not figure out how my feet should be, 00:02:16.882 --> 00:02:21.766 Then, I could not figure out where the arm might be coming of the body. 00:02:21.766 --> 00:02:25.966 And finally, I decided to stop worrying about it. All I wanted was that dog held there, 00:02:25.966 --> 00:02:30.299 And my sneakers grounding the bottom of the painting. 00:02:30.947 --> 00:02:42.150 I just felt so sad, and so... I felt the loss of this dog quite a lot. So I just try to recover her for a moment in the painting. 00:02:42.150 --> 00:02:44.800 It's completely personal. 00:02:48.152 --> 00:02:53.033 And I could see that the hand's not painted well... That one is, that one isn't. 00:02:53.033 --> 00:02:54.782 Woman: Which one? 00:02:54.782 --> 00:02:57.970 ROTHENBERG: The left hand is just fine. It's doing what it needs to do. 00:02:57.970 --> 00:03:00.021 This one is blobby. [laughs] 00:03:00.021 --> 00:03:06.887 It needs some wristbones, and some fingernails, and some definition. 00:03:08.801 --> 00:03:13.368 In the paintings, it's there, the tenderness. I work for it. 00:03:13.368 --> 00:03:19.800 I'm not afraid of it. If I could put my bleeding f**king heart in there, I would. [chuckles] 00:03:19.984 --> 00:03:25.091 But as it is, it's her and my arms and my shoes. 00:03:25.125 --> 00:03:30.091 You know, in the most all-embracing kind of send-off I could give her.