[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.76,0:00:05.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eight years ago, I was haunted\Nby an evil spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.29,0:00:10.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was 25 at the time, Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.51,0:00:14.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was living in a tiny house\Nbehind someone else's house Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.97,0:00:16.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Los Angeles. Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.29,0:00:19.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was this guest house,\Nit had kind of been dilapidated, Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.97,0:00:22.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not taken care of for a long time. Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.67,0:00:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one night, I was sitting there Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.14,0:00:30.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I got this really spooky feeling, Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.67,0:00:33.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of the feeling\Nlike you're being watched. Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.71,0:00:36.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But no one was there except my two dogs, Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.76,0:00:38.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they were just chewing their feet. Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.31,0:00:43.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I looked around. No one was there. Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.16,0:00:47.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I thought, OK,\Nit's just my imagination. Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.41,0:00:50.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the feeling just kept getting worse, Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.04,0:00:55.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I started to feel\Nthis pressure in my chest, Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.36,0:00:58.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of like the feeling\Nwhen you get bad news. Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.48,0:01:01.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it started to sink lower and lower Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.81,0:01:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and almost hurt. Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.05,0:01:07.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And over the course of that week,\Nthis feeling got worse and worse, Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.81,0:01:13.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I started to become convinced\Nthat something was there Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.33,0:01:16.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in my little guest house, haunting me. Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.02,0:01:21.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I started to hear these sounds, Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.16,0:01:27.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this "whoosh," kind of whisper,\Nlike something passing through me. Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.48,0:01:32.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I called my best friend, Claire, and said, Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.58,0:01:36.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I know this is going to sound crazy, Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.76,0:01:38.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but, um ... Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.85,0:01:43.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think there's a ghost in my house\Nand I need to get rid of it." Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.85,0:01:48.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she said -- she's very\Nopen-minded -- and she said, Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.22,0:01:49.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I don't think you're crazy. Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.75,0:01:53.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think you just need\Nto do a cleansing ritual." Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.65,0:01:55.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.46,0:02:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"So get some sage and burn it, Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.90,0:02:03.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tell it to go away." Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.43,0:02:07.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I said, "OK,"\Nand I went and I bought sage. Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.11,0:02:11.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had never done this before,\Nso I set the sage on fire, Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.20,0:02:17.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,waved it about, and said, "Go away!\N"This is my house! I live here. Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.92,0:02:19.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't live here!" Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.59,0:02:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the feeling stayed.\NNothing got better. Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.90,0:02:26.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I started to think, Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.12,0:02:28.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, well now this thing is probably\Njust laughing at me, Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.91,0:02:31.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it hasn't left, Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.37,0:02:34.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I probably just look like\Nthis impotent, powerless thing Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.62,0:02:36.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that couldn't get it to go away. Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.87,0:02:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So every day I'd come home Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.82,0:02:46.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you guys, this feeling got so bad\Nthat -- I mean, I'm laughing at it now -- Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.36,0:02:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I would sit there in bed\Nand cry every night. Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.04,0:02:56.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the feeling on my chest\Ngot worse and worse. Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.36,0:02:59.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was physically painful. Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.38,0:03:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I even went to a psychiatrist Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.82,0:03:06.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tried to get her\Nto prescribe me medicine, Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.28,0:03:10.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she wouldn't just because\NI don't have schizophrenia, OK. Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.40,0:03:12.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.94,0:03:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So finally I got on the internet,\Nand I Googled "hauntings." Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.76,0:03:23.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I came upon this forum\Nof ghost hunters. Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.87,0:03:26.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But these were a special\Nkind of ghost hunters -- Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.23,0:03:27.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were skeptics. Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.80,0:03:33.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They believed that every case of ghosts\Nthat they had investigated so far Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.39,0:03:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had been explained away by science. Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.59,0:03:39.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was like, "OK, smart guys,\Nthis is what's happening to me, Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.56,0:03:43.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you have an explanation for me,\NI would love to hear it." Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.66,0:03:46.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of them said, "OK. Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.89,0:03:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Um, have you heard\Nof carbon monoxide poisoning?" Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.88,0:03:57.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.36,0:04:00.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, gas poisoning?" Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.73,0:04:03.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Carbon monoxide poisoning\Nis when you have a gas leak Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.74,0:04:05.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leaking into your home. Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.20,0:04:11.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I looked it up, and the symptoms\Nof carbon monoxide poisoning Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.06,0:04:14.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,include a pressure on your chest, Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.21,0:04:18.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,auditory hallucinations -- whoosh -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.63,0:04:22.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and an unexplained feeling of dread. Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.83,0:04:26.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that night, I called the gas company. Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.26,0:04:30.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "I have an emergency.\NI need you to come out. Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.09,0:04:33.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want to get into the story now,\Nbut I need you to come out." Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.38,0:04:34.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.60,0:04:37.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They came out. I said,\N"I suspect a gas leak." Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.41,0:04:39.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They brought their carbon\Nmonoxide detector, Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.95,0:04:41.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the man said, Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.01,0:04:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"It's a really good thing\Nthat you called us tonight, Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.50,0:04:47.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you could have been\Ndead very soon." Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.67,0:04:55.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thirty-seven percent of Americans\Nbelieve in haunted houses, Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.06,0:04:59.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I wonder how many of them\Nhave been in one Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.67,0:05:02.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how many of them have been in danger. Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.78,0:05:09.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that haunting story\Nhas led me to my job. Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.54,0:05:12.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm an investigator, and I'm\Nan investigator in two senses: Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.46,0:05:14.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm an investigative journalist, Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.05,0:05:17.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm also an investigator\Nof the claims of the paranormal Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.26,0:05:19.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and claims of the spiritual. Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.28,0:05:20.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that means a few things. Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.82,0:05:24.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes that means that I'm pretending\Nto need an exorcism Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.79,0:05:29.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I can get -- yes, that's right! --\Nso I can go to an exorcist Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.38,0:05:32.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and see if he's using gimmicks\Nor psychological tricks Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.01,0:05:35.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try to convince someone\Nthat they're possessed. Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.92,0:05:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes that means\NI'm going undercover in a fringe group Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.27,0:05:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I report on\Nfor a podcast that I co-host. Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.66,0:05:47.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I've done over 70 investigations\Nlike this with my co-host, Ross. Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.72,0:05:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would love to tell you\Nthat nine times out of 10, science wins, Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.74,0:05:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saves the day, it's all explained. Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.26,0:05:56.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not true. Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.46,0:06:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The truth is, 10 times out of 10,\Nscience wins, it saves the day. Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.70,0:06:06.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.03,0:06:17.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that doesn't mean\Nthere's no such thing as a mystery. Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.73,0:06:21.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course there are mysteries,\Nbut a mystery is a mystery. Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.68,0:06:23.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not a ghost. Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.47,0:06:28.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I believe there are\Ntwo kinds of truth, Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.11,0:06:32.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's taken me a while to get\Nto this place, but I think this is right, Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.49,0:06:33.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so here me out. Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.77,0:06:36.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think there is outer truth\Nand there's inner truth. Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.95,0:06:40.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you say to me, Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.19,0:06:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"There was a man named Jesus\Nand he once existed," Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.89,0:06:44.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's outer truth, right? Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.61,0:06:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we can go and look\Nat the historical record. Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.98,0:06:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can determine\Nwhether that seems to be true. Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.42,0:06:51.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would argue,\Nit does seem to be true. Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.98,0:06:57.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you say, "Jesus rose\Nfrom the dead" -- ooh, trickier. Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.68,0:06:59.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.44,0:07:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would say that's an outer-truth claim, Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.40,0:07:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he physically rose or he didn't. Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.47,0:07:12.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not going to get into\Nwhether he rose or he didn't, Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.22,0:07:14.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I would say\Nthat's an outer-truth claim. Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.32,0:07:16.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It happened or it didn't happen. Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.04,0:07:19.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you say, "I don't care\Nwhether he rose from the dead. Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.76,0:07:22.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's symbolically important to me, Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.13,0:07:25.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that metaphor is so meaningful,\Nso purposeful to me, Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.65,0:07:27.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm not going to try\Nto persuade you of it," Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.98,0:07:30.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now you've moved it\Nfrom outer truth to inner truth, Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.55,0:07:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from science to art. Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.10,0:07:35.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think we have a tendency\Nto not be clear about this, Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.29,0:07:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try to move our inner truths\Nto outer truths, Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.72,0:07:41.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or to not be fair about it to each other, Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.65,0:07:44.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when people are telling us\Ntheir inner truths, Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.04,0:07:47.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try to make them defend them\Nby outer-truth standards. Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.67,0:07:51.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm talking here about outer truth,\Nabout objective things. Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.21,0:07:56.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there was an objective reality\Nin my haunted house, right? Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.92,0:07:58.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now that I've told you about the gas leak, Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.100,0:08:01.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I doubt a single person here\Nwould be like, Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.04,0:08:03.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I still think there was a ghost, too" -- Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.04,0:08:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.10,0:08:06.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because as soon as we have\Nthese scientific explanations, Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.87,0:08:08.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we know to give up the ghost. Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.56,0:08:12.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We use these things as stopgaps\Nfor things that we can't explain. Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.59,0:08:14.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't believe them because of evidence; Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.62,0:08:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we believe them because\Nof a lack of evidence. Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.38,0:08:20.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there was a group in Los Angeles Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.77,0:08:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called the Independent\NInvestigations Group, or the IIG, Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.50,0:08:26.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they do great work. Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.51,0:08:29.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They'll give a $10,000 prize Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.23,0:08:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to anyone who can show,\Nunder scientific conditions, Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.78,0:08:36.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they have a paranormal ability. Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.16,0:08:37.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one's done it yet, Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.89,0:08:42.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they've had a couple people\Nwho claim that they were clairaudients, Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.98,0:08:47.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which means that they can hear voices\Neither from the great beyond Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.06,0:08:48.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or they can read minds. Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.98,0:08:51.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they had one person\Nwho was very sincere, Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.76,0:08:54.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who believed that he could read minds. Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.68,0:08:57.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a lot of these people -- Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.45,0:09:00.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.31,0:09:03.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That wasn't a laugh line, but OK. Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.35,0:09:08.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of these people really are sincere, Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.09,0:09:10.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I believe this guy was. Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.16,0:09:12.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He really thought he had this power. Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.23,0:09:18.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they set up a test with him,\Nand this is the way it always works. Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.24,0:09:20.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The group says, "OK, we have a protocol, Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.51,0:09:22.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have a way to scientifically test this. Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.55,0:09:23.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you agree with it?" Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.73,0:09:25.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The person says yes. Then they test it. Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.65,0:09:27.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very important that both sides agree. Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.68,0:09:30.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They did that, they tested him. Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.12,0:09:32.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They said, "OK, you know what? Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.70,0:09:36.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You weren't able to predict\Nwhat Lisa was thinking. Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.56,0:09:38.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It matched up about the same as chance. Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.61,0:09:40.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Looks like you don't have the power." Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.48,0:09:42.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that gave them the opportunity Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.35,0:09:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to compassionately sit down with him\Nand have a very difficult discussion, Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.65,0:09:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which basically amounted to, Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.64,0:09:54.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Hey, we know you're sincere,\Nand what that means is, Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.23,0:09:56.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you do hear something in your head." Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.53,0:09:59.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's a tough thing to face. Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.29,0:10:04.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) (Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.16,0:10:10.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that day, that guy got to make\Nthe very difficult decision, Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.100,0:10:17.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but really the life-changing decision\Nabout whether to go get help. Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.10,0:10:19.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.94,0:10:24.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that really could be\Nthe first day of the rest of your life, Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.12,0:10:28.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because when we challenge these beliefs, Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.26,0:10:33.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're actually helping people\Nto make these connections Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.32,0:10:38.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that maybe before seemed like\Notherworldly explanations, Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.66,0:10:43.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help draw us into reality\Nand maybe change our lives for the better. Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.35,0:10:51.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, on the other hand,\Nmaybe one time it'll turn out to be true. Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.77,0:10:53.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe we'll find out there are ghosts, Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.82,0:10:55.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and holy shit, it will be the best thing! Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.01,0:10:58.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And every time I do\None of these investigations, Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.76,0:11:00.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I still get so excited, Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.59,0:11:02.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm like 75 into them, Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.68,0:11:06.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and still I swear on number 76,\NI'm going to be like, "This is the one!" Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.78,0:11:07.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.01,0:11:12.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe I'm just eternally optimistic,\Nbut I hope I never lose this hope, Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.89,0:11:16.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I invite you to take\Nthis same attitude Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.69,0:11:19.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when people share\Ntheir outer beliefs with you. Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.15,0:11:21.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When talking about testable claims, Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.64,0:11:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,respect them enough to ask\Nthese good questions. Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.35,0:11:28.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Challenge and see\Nhow you can examine them together, Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.23,0:11:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there's this idea\Nthat you can't respect a belief Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.43,0:11:34.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and still challenge it,\Nbut that's not true. Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.00,0:11:37.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we jiggle the lock,\Nwhen we test the claim, Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.77,0:11:41.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're saying, OK, I respect you,\NI'm listening to what you're saying, Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.77,0:11:43.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to test it out with you. Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.78,0:11:47.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've all had that experience\Nwhere you're telling someone something, Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.16,0:11:49.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're like, "Oh,\Nthat's really interesting, yeah," Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.92,0:11:52.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know you're being had. Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.06,0:11:55.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when someone says, "Really? Huh. Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.47,0:11:58.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sounds a little sketchy to me,\Nbut I'm listening," Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.89,0:12:01.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you at least know\Nyou're being engaged and respected. Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.57,0:12:04.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's the kind of attitude\Nwe should have with these claims. Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.71,0:12:07.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's showing someone\Nthat you care what they're saying. Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.44,0:12:10.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's respect. Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.09,0:12:17.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, yes, most of these searches\Nwill come up empty, Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.81,0:12:19.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that's how all of science works. Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.04,0:12:24.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every cure for cancer so far\Nhas not panned out, Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.17,0:12:26.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we don't stop looking, Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.52,0:12:28.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for two reasons. Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.08,0:12:30.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because number one, the answer matters. Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.58,0:12:34.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whether it's looking at the afterlife\Nor the paranormal or the cure for cancer, Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.63,0:12:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it all amounts to the same question: Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.98,0:12:39.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How long will we be here? Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.84,0:12:44.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And two, because looking for the truth, Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.65,0:12:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being open-minded, Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.99,0:12:50.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and being willing to be wrong\Nand to change your whole worldview Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.38,0:12:52.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is awe-inspiring. Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.20,0:12:57.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I still get excited at ghost stories\Nevery single time. Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.04,0:13:00.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I still consider that every group\NI join might be right, Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.14,0:13:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I hope I never lose that hope. Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.16,0:13:03.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's all never lose that hope, Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.99,0:13:06.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because searching for what's out there Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.87,0:13:08.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helps us understand what's in here. Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.52,0:13:15.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also, please have\Na carbon monoxide detector in your home. Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.04,0:13:18.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.34,0:13:20.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)