WEBVTT 00:00:00.754 --> 00:00:03.754 I'm here today to show my photographs of the Lakota. 00:00:04.404 --> 00:00:06.555 Many of you may have heard of the Lakota, 00:00:06.579 --> 00:00:08.519 or at least the larger group of tribes, 00:00:08.543 --> 00:00:09.999 called the Sioux. 00:00:10.668 --> 00:00:13.803 The Lakota are one of many tribes that were moved off their land 00:00:13.827 --> 00:00:15.232 to prisoner-of-war camps, 00:00:15.256 --> 00:00:16.778 now called reservations. 00:00:17.497 --> 00:00:19.584 The Pine Ridge Reservation, 00:00:19.608 --> 00:00:21.740 the subject of today's slide show, 00:00:21.764 --> 00:00:26.066 is located about 75 miles southeast of the Black Hills in South Dakota. 00:00:26.090 --> 00:00:31.017 It is sometimes referred to as Prisoner of War Camp Number 334, 00:00:31.041 --> 00:00:33.167 and it is where the Lakota now live. 00:00:33.191 --> 00:00:35.377 Now, if any of you have ever heard of AIM, 00:00:35.401 --> 00:00:37.321 the American Indian Movement, 00:00:37.345 --> 00:00:39.187 or of Russell Means, 00:00:39.211 --> 00:00:40.623 or Leonard Peltier, 00:00:41.623 --> 00:00:43.710 or of the standoff at Oglala, 00:00:43.734 --> 00:00:47.871 then you know Pine Ridge is ground zero for Native issues in the US. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:49.257 --> 00:00:51.415 So I've been asked to talk a little bit today 00:00:51.439 --> 00:00:53.607 about my relationship with the Lakota, 00:00:53.631 --> 00:00:55.607 and that's a very difficult one for me, 00:00:55.631 --> 00:00:58.089 because, if you haven't noticed from my skin color, 00:00:58.113 --> 00:00:59.502 I'm white, 00:00:59.526 --> 00:01:02.526 and that is a huge barrier on a Native reservation. 00:01:04.113 --> 00:01:06.543 You'll see a lot of people in my photographs today. 00:01:06.567 --> 00:01:09.884 I've become very close with them, and they've welcomed me like family. 00:01:09.908 --> 00:01:11.826 They've called me "brother" and "uncle," 00:01:11.850 --> 00:01:14.154 and invited me again and again over five years. 00:01:14.178 --> 00:01:15.376 But on Pine Ridge, 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:18.376 I will always be what is called "wasichu." 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:21.566 "Wasichu" is a Lakota word 00:01:21.590 --> 00:01:23.691 that means "non-Indian," 00:01:23.715 --> 00:01:25.794 but another version of this word 00:01:25.818 --> 00:01:29.038 means "the one who takes the best meat for himself." 00:01:29.407 --> 00:01:31.228 And that's what I want to focus on -- 00:01:31.252 --> 00:01:33.348 the one who takes the best part of the meat. 00:01:33.853 --> 00:01:35.033 It means "greedy." 00:01:36.058 --> 00:01:38.154 So take a look around this auditorium today. 00:01:38.870 --> 00:01:41.930 We are at a private school in the American West, 00:01:41.954 --> 00:01:44.376 sitting in red velvet chairs 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:45.812 with money in our pockets. 00:01:46.701 --> 00:01:48.447 And if we look at our lives, 00:01:48.471 --> 00:01:51.349 we have indeed taken the best part of the meat. 00:01:52.336 --> 00:01:55.376 So let's look today at a set of photographs 00:01:55.400 --> 00:01:57.038 of a people who lost 00:01:57.062 --> 00:01:59.039 so that we could gain, 00:01:59.063 --> 00:02:01.569 and know that when you see these people's faces, 00:02:02.304 --> 00:02:04.908 that these are not just images of the Lakota; 00:02:04.932 --> 00:02:07.256 they stand for all indigenous people. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:12.015 On this piece of paper 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:15.752 is the history the way I learned it from my Lakota friends and family. 00:02:17.623 --> 00:02:21.886 The following is a time line of treaties made, treaties broken 00:02:21.910 --> 00:02:24.192 and massacres disguised as battles. 00:02:24.668 --> 00:02:26.375 I'll begin in 1824. 00:02:26.901 --> 00:02:29.013 What is known as the Bureau of Indian Affairs 00:02:29.037 --> 00:02:30.867 was created within the War Department, 00:02:30.891 --> 00:02:32.581 setting an early tone of aggression 00:02:32.605 --> 00:02:34.644 in our dealings with the Native Americans. 00:02:34.668 --> 00:02:36.211 1851: 00:02:36.235 --> 00:02:38.400 The first treaty of Fort Laramie was made, 00:02:38.424 --> 00:02:41.162 clearly marking the boundaries of the Lakota Nation. 00:02:41.757 --> 00:02:44.836 According to the treaty, those lands are a sovereign nation. 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:47.496 If the boundaries of this treaty had held -- 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:50.147 and there is a legal basis that they should -- 00:02:50.171 --> 00:02:52.926 then this is what the US would look like today. 00:02:55.755 --> 00:02:56.926 Ten years later. 00:02:57.320 --> 00:03:00.042 The Homestead Act, signed by President Lincoln, 00:03:00.066 --> 00:03:02.745 unleashed a flood of white settlers into Native lands. 00:03:03.345 --> 00:03:05.024 1863: 00:03:05.048 --> 00:03:07.546 An uprising of Santee Sioux in Minnesota 00:03:07.570 --> 00:03:10.478 ends with the hanging of 38 Sioux men, 00:03:10.502 --> 00:03:13.502 the largest mass execution in US history. 00:03:14.035 --> 00:03:16.274 The execution was ordered by President Lincoln, 00:03:16.298 --> 00:03:20.993 only two days after he signed the Emancipation Proclamation. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:22.569 --> 00:03:26.141 1866: The beginning of the Transcontinental Railroad -- 00:03:26.165 --> 00:03:27.376 a new era. 00:03:27.763 --> 00:03:29.953 We appropriated land for trails and trains 00:03:29.977 --> 00:03:32.376 to shortcut through the heart of the Lakota Nation. 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:34.216 The treaties were out the window. 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:37.707 In response, three tribes led by the Lakota chief Red Cloud 00:03:37.731 --> 00:03:39.437 attacked and defeated the US army, 00:03:39.461 --> 00:03:40.659 many times over. 00:03:40.683 --> 00:03:42.008 I want to repeat that part: 00:03:42.032 --> 00:03:44.064 The Lakota defeat the US army. 00:03:45.770 --> 00:03:49.619 1868: The second Fort Laramie Treaty clearly guarantees 00:03:49.643 --> 00:03:51.659 the sovereignty of the Great Sioux Nation 00:03:51.683 --> 00:03:54.500 and the Lakotas' ownership of the sacred Black Hills. 00:03:54.830 --> 00:03:57.284 The government also promises land and hunting rights 00:03:57.308 --> 00:03:58.632 in the surrounding states. 00:03:58.656 --> 00:04:00.719 We promise that the Powder River country 00:04:00.743 --> 00:04:02.882 will henceforth be closed to all whites. 00:04:03.501 --> 00:04:05.559 The treaty seemed to be a complete victory 00:04:05.583 --> 00:04:07.043 for Red Cloud and the Sioux. 00:04:07.067 --> 00:04:09.979 In fact, this is the only war in American history 00:04:10.812 --> 00:04:13.048 in which the government negotiated a peace 00:04:13.072 --> 00:04:15.743 by conceding everything demanded by the enemy. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:18.753 --> 00:04:22.495 1869: The Transcontinental Railroad was completed. 00:04:22.519 --> 00:04:25.906 It began carrying, among other things, large numbers of hunters, 00:04:25.930 --> 00:04:28.276 who began the wholesale killing of buffalo, 00:04:28.300 --> 00:04:31.858 eliminating a source of food, clothing and shelter for the Sioux. 00:04:31.882 --> 00:04:33.098 1871: 00:04:33.677 --> 00:04:35.337 The Indian Appropriation Act 00:04:35.361 --> 00:04:37.700 makes all Indians wards of the federal government. 00:04:38.299 --> 00:04:40.450 In addition, the military issued orders 00:04:40.474 --> 00:04:43.338 forbidding western Indians from leaving reservations. 00:04:44.154 --> 00:04:48.238 All western Indians at that point in time were now prisoners of war. 00:04:48.903 --> 00:04:50.350 Also in 1871, 00:04:50.374 --> 00:04:52.351 we ended the time of treaty-making. 00:04:52.375 --> 00:04:56.067 The problem with treaties is they allow tribes to exist as sovereign nations, 00:04:56.091 --> 00:04:57.261 and we can't have that. 00:04:57.285 --> 00:04:58.482 We had plans. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:59.554 --> 00:05:00.777 1874: 00:05:00.801 --> 00:05:04.357 General George Custer announced the discovery of gold in Lakota territory, 00:05:04.381 --> 00:05:06.066 specifically the Black Hills. 00:05:06.090 --> 00:05:08.901 The news of gold creates a massive influx of white settlers 00:05:08.925 --> 00:05:10.110 into Lakota Nation. 00:05:10.714 --> 00:05:12.747 Custer recommends that Congress find a way 00:05:12.771 --> 00:05:15.691 to end the treaties with the Lakota as soon as possible. 00:05:16.048 --> 00:05:19.081 1875: The Lakota war begins 00:05:19.105 --> 00:05:21.757 over the violation of the Fort Laramie Treaty. 00:05:22.551 --> 00:05:23.752 1876: 00:05:24.322 --> 00:05:25.980 On July 26th, 00:05:26.004 --> 00:05:28.223 on its way to attack a Lakota village, 00:05:28.247 --> 00:05:30.311 Custer's 7th Cavalry was crushed 00:05:30.335 --> 00:05:31.984 at the battle of Little Big Horn. 00:05:32.746 --> 00:05:33.942 1877: 00:05:34.585 --> 00:05:37.629 The great Lakota warrior and chief named Crazy Horse 00:05:37.653 --> 00:05:39.376 surrendered at Fort Robinson. 00:05:39.843 --> 00:05:41.859 He was later killed while in custody. 00:05:45.935 --> 00:05:50.623 1877 is also the year we found a way to get around the Fort Laramie Treaties. 00:05:50.647 --> 00:05:53.940 A new agreement was presented to Sioux chiefs and their leading men, 00:05:53.964 --> 00:05:56.376 under a campaign known as "Sell or Starve" -- 00:05:56.400 --> 00:05:58.705 sign the paper, or no food for your tribe. 00:05:59.156 --> 00:06:01.872 Only 10 percent of the adult male population signed. 00:06:02.586 --> 00:06:06.305 The Fort Laramie Treaty called for at least three-quarters of the tribe 00:06:06.329 --> 00:06:07.488 to sign away land. 00:06:08.254 --> 00:06:10.082 That clause was obviously ignored. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:10.709 --> 00:06:13.261 1887: The Dawes Act. 00:06:13.811 --> 00:06:16.376 Communal ownership of reservation lands ends. 00:06:16.400 --> 00:06:19.491 Reservations are cut up into 160-acre sections, 00:06:19.515 --> 00:06:21.496 and distributed to individual Indians 00:06:21.520 --> 00:06:23.376 with the surplus disposed of. 00:06:23.400 --> 00:06:25.219 Tribes lost millions of acres. 00:06:26.322 --> 00:06:28.569 The American dream of individual land ownership 00:06:28.593 --> 00:06:30.588 turned out to be a very clever way 00:06:30.612 --> 00:06:33.534 to divide the reservation until nothing was left. 00:06:34.041 --> 00:06:35.887 The move destroyed the reservations, 00:06:35.911 --> 00:06:38.861 making it easier to further subdivide and to sell 00:06:38.885 --> 00:06:40.806 with every passing generation. 00:06:41.155 --> 00:06:42.870 Most of the surplus land 00:06:42.894 --> 00:06:45.530 and many of the plots within reservation boundaries 00:06:45.554 --> 00:06:47.520 are now in the hands of white ranchers. 00:06:48.034 --> 00:06:51.207 Once again, the fat of the land goes to wasichu. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:52.161 --> 00:06:56.787 1890: A date I believe to be the most important in this slide show. 00:06:57.168 --> 00:06:59.591 This is the year of the Wounded Knee Massacre. 00:07:00.237 --> 00:07:01.658 On December 29, 00:07:01.682 --> 00:07:04.864 US troops surrounded a Sioux encampment at Wounded Knee Creek, 00:07:04.888 --> 00:07:08.937 and massacred Chief Big Foot and 300 prisoners of war, 00:07:08.961 --> 00:07:12.463 using a new rapid-fire weapon that fired exploding shells, 00:07:12.487 --> 00:07:13.645 called a Hotchkiss gun. 00:07:14.550 --> 00:07:16.130 For this so-called "battle," 00:07:16.154 --> 00:07:19.157 20 Congressional Medals of Honor for Valor 00:07:19.181 --> 00:07:21.013 were given to the 7th Cavalry. 00:07:22.400 --> 00:07:23.703 To this day, 00:07:25.005 --> 00:07:29.113 this is the most Medals of Honor ever awarded for a single battle. 00:07:30.019 --> 00:07:31.639 More Medals of Honor were given 00:07:31.663 --> 00:07:34.193 for the indiscriminate slaughter of women and children 00:07:34.217 --> 00:07:37.089 than for any battle in World War One, 00:07:37.113 --> 00:07:38.454 World War Two, 00:07:38.478 --> 00:07:40.789 Korea, Vietnam, 00:07:40.813 --> 00:07:42.890 Iraq or Afghanistan. 00:07:44.811 --> 00:07:48.479 The Wounded Knee Massacre is considered the end of the Indian wars. 00:07:49.842 --> 00:07:53.302 Whenever I visit the site of the mass grave at Wounded Knee, 00:07:53.326 --> 00:07:57.728 I see it not just as a grave for the Lakota or for the Sioux, 00:07:57.752 --> 00:08:00.143 but as a grave for all indigenous peoples. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:03.230 --> 00:08:05.770 The holy man Black Elk, said, 00:08:05.794 --> 00:08:08.187 "I did not know then how much was ended. 00:08:09.737 --> 00:08:13.154 When I look back now from this high hill of my old age, 00:08:13.178 --> 00:08:15.759 I can still see the butchered women and children 00:08:15.783 --> 00:08:19.854 lying heaped and scattered all along the crooked gulch, 00:08:23.751 --> 00:08:25.686 as plain as when I saw them 00:08:25.710 --> 00:08:27.147 with eyes still young. 00:08:31.002 --> 00:08:34.317 And I can see that something else died there in the bloody mud 00:08:35.975 --> 00:08:37.671 and was buried in the blizzard. 00:08:39.383 --> 00:08:41.340 A people's dream died there. 00:08:42.523 --> 00:08:44.332 And it was a beautiful dream." NOTE Paragraph 00:08:47.078 --> 00:08:48.534 With this event, 00:08:48.558 --> 00:08:51.558 a new era in Native American history began. 00:08:52.400 --> 00:08:57.376 Everything can be measured before Wounded Knee and after, 00:08:57.400 --> 00:08:59.167 because it was in this moment, 00:08:59.191 --> 00:09:02.478 with the fingers on the triggers of the Hotchkiss guns, 00:09:02.502 --> 00:09:06.376 that the US government openly declared its position on Native rights. 00:09:06.859 --> 00:09:08.376 They were tired of treaties. 00:09:08.795 --> 00:09:10.763 They were tired of sacred hills. 00:09:10.787 --> 00:09:12.620 They were tired of ghost dances. 00:09:13.676 --> 00:09:16.691 And they were tired of all the inconveniences of the Sioux. 00:09:17.295 --> 00:09:18.930 So they brought out their cannons. 00:09:20.713 --> 00:09:23.040 "You want to be an Indian now?" they said, 00:09:23.064 --> 00:09:24.326 finger on the trigger. 00:09:30.556 --> 00:09:31.722 1900: 00:09:32.548 --> 00:09:36.018 the US Indian population reached its low point -- 00:09:36.042 --> 00:09:38.574 less than 250,000, 00:09:38.598 --> 00:09:42.400 compared to an estimated eight million in 1492. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:44.496 --> 00:09:45.679 Fast-forward. 00:09:46.400 --> 00:09:47.607 1980: 00:09:48.233 --> 00:09:50.932 The longest-running court case in US history, 00:09:50.956 --> 00:09:53.537 the Sioux Nation versus the United States, 00:09:53.561 --> 00:09:56.227 was ruled upon by the US Supreme Court. 00:09:57.273 --> 00:10:00.796 The court determined that when the Sioux were resettled onto reservations 00:10:00.820 --> 00:10:03.907 and seven million acres of their land were opened up 00:10:03.931 --> 00:10:05.981 to prospectors and homesteaders, 00:10:06.005 --> 00:10:08.568 the terms of the second Fort Laramie Treaty 00:10:08.592 --> 00:10:09.799 had been violated. 00:10:10.532 --> 00:10:14.272 The court stated that the Black Hills were illegally taken, 00:10:14.296 --> 00:10:16.911 and that the initial offering price, plus interest, 00:10:16.935 --> 00:10:18.729 should be paid to the Sioux Nation. 00:10:19.300 --> 00:10:20.852 As payment for the Black Hills, 00:10:20.876 --> 00:10:25.308 the court awarded only 106 million dollars to the Sioux Nation. 00:10:25.332 --> 00:10:28.376 The Sioux refused the money with the rallying cry, 00:10:28.400 --> 00:10:30.376 "The Black Hills are not for sale." NOTE Paragraph 00:10:31.630 --> 00:10:32.789 2010: 00:10:33.329 --> 00:10:36.121 Statistics about Native population today, 00:10:36.145 --> 00:10:39.376 more than a century after the massacre at Wounded Knee, 00:10:39.400 --> 00:10:41.985 reveal the legacy of colonization, 00:10:42.009 --> 00:10:43.277 forced migration 00:10:43.301 --> 00:10:44.744 and treaty violations. 00:10:45.895 --> 00:10:48.325 Unemployment on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation 00:10:48.349 --> 00:10:50.927 fluctuates between 85 and 90 percent. 00:10:51.689 --> 00:10:54.538 The housing office is unable to build new structures, 00:10:54.562 --> 00:10:56.698 and existing structures are falling apart. 00:10:57.030 --> 00:10:58.199 Many are homeless, 00:10:58.223 --> 00:11:00.782 and those with homes are packed into rotting buildings 00:11:00.806 --> 00:11:02.151 with up to five families. 00:11:02.598 --> 00:11:04.805 Thirty-nine percent of homes on Pine Ridge 00:11:04.829 --> 00:11:06.066 have no electricity. 00:11:06.524 --> 00:11:09.193 At least 60 percent of the homes on the reservation 00:11:09.217 --> 00:11:11.034 are infested with black mold. 00:11:11.740 --> 00:11:16.005 More than 90 percent of the population lives below the federal poverty line. 00:11:16.814 --> 00:11:18.974 The tuberculosis rate on Pine Ridge 00:11:18.998 --> 00:11:22.189 is approximately eight times higher than the US national average. 00:11:22.615 --> 00:11:25.845 The infant mortality rate is the highest on this continent, 00:11:25.869 --> 00:11:29.177 and is about three times higher than the US national average. 00:11:29.201 --> 00:11:31.596 Cervical cancer is five times higher 00:11:31.620 --> 00:11:33.431 than the US national average. 00:11:33.455 --> 00:11:36.208 The school dropout rate is up to 70 percent. 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:40.904 Teacher turnover is eight times higher than the US national average. 00:11:41.400 --> 00:11:44.769 Frequently, grandparents are raising their grandchildren 00:11:44.793 --> 00:11:47.111 because parents, due to alcoholism, 00:11:47.135 --> 00:11:49.860 domestic violence and general apathy, 00:11:49.884 --> 00:11:51.082 cannot raise them. 00:11:52.082 --> 00:11:55.153 Fifty percent of the population over the age of 40 00:11:55.177 --> 00:11:56.653 suffers from diabetes. 00:11:57.634 --> 00:12:03.503 The life expectancy for men is between 46 and 48 years old -- 00:12:04.265 --> 00:12:08.268 roughly the same as in Afghanistan and Somalia. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:10.138 --> 00:12:13.678 The last chapter in any successful genocide 00:12:13.702 --> 00:12:15.679 is the one in which the oppressor 00:12:15.703 --> 00:12:18.243 can remove their hands and say, 00:12:18.267 --> 00:12:21.729 "My god -- what are these people doing to themselves? 00:12:21.753 --> 00:12:23.449 They're killing each other. 00:12:23.473 --> 00:12:25.376 They're killing themselves 00:12:25.400 --> 00:12:27.049 while we watch them die." 00:12:28.241 --> 00:12:31.217 This is how we came to own these United States. 00:12:31.700 --> 00:12:34.621 This is the legacy of Manifest Destiny. 00:12:35.453 --> 00:12:39.680 Prisoners are still born into prisoner of war camps, 00:12:39.704 --> 00:12:41.666 long after the guards are gone. 00:12:44.449 --> 00:12:49.092 These are the bones left after the best meat has been taken. 00:12:51.891 --> 00:12:53.209 A long time ago, 00:12:53.233 --> 00:12:55.210 a series of events was set in motion 00:12:55.234 --> 00:12:58.736 by a people who look like me, by wasichu, 00:12:58.760 --> 00:13:02.219 eager to take the land and the water and the gold in the hills. 00:13:03.202 --> 00:13:06.286 Those events led to a domino effect that has yet to end. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:07.328 --> 00:13:10.767 As removed as we, the dominant society, may feel 00:13:12.154 --> 00:13:14.747 from a massacre in 1890, 00:13:14.771 --> 00:13:18.497 or a series of broken treaties 150 years ago, 00:13:18.971 --> 00:13:21.132 I still have to ask you the question: 00:13:22.084 --> 00:13:24.711 How should you feel about the statistics of today? 00:13:25.878 --> 00:13:29.042 What is the connection between these images of suffering 00:13:29.066 --> 00:13:31.042 and the history that I just read to you? 00:13:31.930 --> 00:13:34.780 And how much of this history do you need to own, even? 00:13:35.479 --> 00:13:37.730 Is any of this your responsibility today? 00:13:39.273 --> 00:13:41.966 I have been told that there must be something we can do. 00:13:41.990 --> 00:13:44.416 There must be some call to action. 00:13:45.697 --> 00:13:48.772 Because for so long, I've been standing on the sidelines, 00:13:49.209 --> 00:13:50.835 content to be a witness, 00:13:50.859 --> 00:13:52.723 just taking photographs. 00:13:53.661 --> 00:13:56.260 Because the solutions seem so far in the past, 00:13:56.284 --> 00:13:59.617 I needed nothing short of a time machine to access them. NOTE Paragraph 00:14:00.680 --> 00:14:05.788 The suffering of indigenous peoples is not a simple issue to fix. 00:14:06.640 --> 00:14:08.656 It's not something everyone can get behind 00:14:08.680 --> 00:14:10.529 the way they get behind helping Haiti, 00:14:10.553 --> 00:14:12.956 or ending AIDS, or fighting a famine. 00:14:13.739 --> 00:14:15.705 The "fix," as it's called, 00:14:15.729 --> 00:14:18.376 may be much more difficult for the dominant society 00:14:18.400 --> 00:14:20.697 than, say, a $50 check 00:14:20.721 --> 00:14:24.018 or a church trip to paint some graffiti-covered houses, 00:14:24.042 --> 00:14:25.653 or a suburban family 00:14:25.677 --> 00:14:28.653 donating a box of clothes they don't even want anymore. 00:14:29.296 --> 00:14:30.691 So where does that leave us? 00:14:31.176 --> 00:14:33.240 Shrugging our shoulders in the dark? NOTE Paragraph 00:14:35.010 --> 00:14:39.690 The United States continues on a daily basis to violate the terms 00:14:39.714 --> 00:14:44.163 of the 1851 and 1868 Fort Laramie Treaties with the Lakota. 00:14:44.723 --> 00:14:47.055 The call to action I offer today -- 00:14:47.892 --> 00:14:49.941 my TED wish -- is this: 00:14:51.351 --> 00:14:52.632 Honor the treaties. 00:14:53.225 --> 00:14:54.922 Give back the Black Hills. 00:14:55.319 --> 00:14:57.561 It's not your business what they do with them. NOTE Paragraph 00:14:59.898 --> 00:15:06.777 (Applause)