WEBVTT 00:00:14.631 --> 00:00:16.708 Question: Some of the people that follow 00:00:16.708 --> 00:00:19.431 your ministry on the Internet, 00:00:19.431 --> 00:00:20.897 they get kind of frustrated 00:00:20.897 --> 00:00:24.011 with their own local pastor, 00:00:24.011 --> 00:00:27.345 and they have this desire for their local pastor 00:00:27.345 --> 00:00:29.811 who's shepherding the same flock, 00:00:29.811 --> 00:00:32.640 he preaches in the same pulpit every Sunday, 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:35.345 he's going expositorily through a book, 00:00:35.345 --> 00:00:38.605 and they want their pastor's pulpit ministry 00:00:38.605 --> 00:00:40.636 to look like your itinerant ministry 00:00:40.636 --> 00:00:43.809 with the passion and the zeal that you preach, 00:00:43.809 --> 00:00:45.962 and they want their pastor 00:00:45.962 --> 00:00:48.855 to basically be a copy of Paul Washer. 00:00:48.855 --> 00:00:50.841 What advice would you give a young man 00:00:50.841 --> 00:00:52.462 that's feeling that way? NOTE Paragraph 00:00:52.462 --> 00:00:56.728 Paul: They know not what they ask for. 00:00:56.728 --> 00:01:01.412 Listen, sometimes I'll walk out of a church 00:01:01.412 --> 00:01:04.059 or I'm standing there with the pastor 00:01:04.059 --> 00:01:06.569 and shaking people's hands and they're walking by - 00:01:06.569 --> 00:01:08.469 I have heard people come up to me 00:01:08.469 --> 00:01:11.306 and say, "I've never heard anything like that. 00:01:11.306 --> 00:01:15.692 That was more truth than I've heard in five years. 00:01:15.692 --> 00:01:20.166 And man, I wish we could hear preaching like that in this church." 00:01:20.166 --> 00:01:23.453 And that's just the devil. 00:01:23.453 --> 00:01:26.381 That is so wicked to say that to that man. 00:01:26.381 --> 00:01:29.149 Or, they'll say, "we've never heard these truths before." 00:01:29.149 --> 00:01:30.766 Well, just let me share with you 00:01:30.766 --> 00:01:33.233 something from when I was a pastor in Peru. 00:01:33.233 --> 00:01:34.352 When I was a pastor, 00:01:34.352 --> 00:01:37.226 I learned that men did not learn things 00:01:37.226 --> 00:01:38.573 because they heard it once. 00:01:38.573 --> 00:01:41.666 If I was going to teach on a certain doctrine or certain thing, 00:01:41.666 --> 00:01:43.744 I would teach on it for months at a time. 00:01:43.744 --> 00:01:45.655 And when I would finish teaching on it, 00:01:45.655 --> 00:01:47.642 exhausting everything that I know, 00:01:47.642 --> 00:01:48.713 I would teach on it, 00:01:48.713 --> 00:01:51.045 I would invite godly Peruvian pastors 00:01:51.045 --> 00:01:52.585 and godly missionaries 00:01:52.585 --> 00:01:55.322 who I felt would be a great blessing to the church - 00:01:55.322 --> 00:01:58.921 I would have them come and teach on the same subject. 00:01:58.921 --> 00:02:01.301 And when the members would be walking 00:02:01.301 --> 00:02:02.713 out of my church 00:02:02.713 --> 00:02:04.295 and we'd be shaking their hands, 00:02:04.295 --> 00:02:06.201 they'd look at that missionary and say, 00:02:06.201 --> 00:02:09.017 "We've never heard anything like that before in our life." 00:02:09.017 --> 00:02:10.528 And that just goes to show you, 00:02:10.528 --> 00:02:13.121 that's part of the itinerant ministry. 00:02:13.121 --> 00:02:16.766 What I like to do in most churches that I go to honestly, 00:02:16.766 --> 00:02:19.435 when I go in, 00:02:19.435 --> 00:02:22.052 I'm preaching almost the exact same thing 00:02:22.052 --> 00:02:24.150 most of their preachers are preaching. 00:02:24.150 --> 00:02:26.879 Now maybe in a different way, 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:29.499 but it more confirms their ministry than anything else. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:29.499 --> 00:02:30.813 Another thing. 00:02:30.813 --> 00:02:33.540 I was asked to preach for about 3 months 00:02:33.540 --> 00:02:37.420 in a little tiny church 00:02:37.420 --> 00:02:39.776 last year in Alabama. 00:02:39.776 --> 00:02:41.680 And oh, I loved it. I loved it. 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:45.997 I kind of was their interim pastor for 3 months. 00:02:45.997 --> 00:02:49.113 And a bunch of the young guys who heard me preach, 00:02:49.113 --> 00:02:50.706 they came there. 00:02:50.706 --> 00:02:52.108 Well, after about two weeks, 00:02:52.108 --> 00:02:54.484 they went up to one of the leaders in the church 00:02:54.484 --> 00:02:56.885 and they said, "I have a question. 00:02:56.885 --> 00:02:58.587 The leader said, "what?" 00:02:58.587 --> 00:03:01.327 And the leader happens to be a very good friend of mine. 00:03:01.327 --> 00:03:06.227 They said, "Has Brother Paul changed his ministry? 00:03:06.227 --> 00:03:08.438 Has he compromised? 00:03:08.438 --> 00:03:10.596 Is something going on in his life?" 00:03:10.596 --> 00:03:12.845 And the man said, "Why?" 00:03:12.845 --> 00:03:16.427 He goes, "Well, his preaching is so different." 00:03:16.427 --> 00:03:18.682 You see, that's because he's gone 00:03:18.682 --> 00:03:21.496 from this itinerant preacher mode 00:03:21.496 --> 00:03:23.612 to pastor mode - 00:03:23.612 --> 00:03:26.468 to feeding sheep on a long term basis. 00:03:26.468 --> 00:03:29.521 But I want to warn the pastors, 00:03:29.521 --> 00:03:32.017 expository preaching - preaching through a book - 00:03:32.017 --> 00:03:35.270 if it's boring, you're not doing it right. 00:03:35.270 --> 00:03:36.833 I mean, how can you preach 00:03:36.833 --> 00:03:41.833 through the book of Ephesians without zeal? 00:03:41.833 --> 00:03:45.293 How can you do this without it having an impact on people? 00:03:45.293 --> 00:03:47.348 So, I want to look at it from both sides 00:03:47.348 --> 00:03:49.687 because there are a lot of pastors out there, 00:03:49.687 --> 00:03:52.339 they're not feeding their sheep. 00:03:52.339 --> 00:03:55.473 You know, here's the thing I'd like to recommend. 00:03:55.473 --> 00:03:57.310 Several years ago - many years ago - 00:03:57.310 --> 00:03:58.733 Warren Wiersbe wrote a book, 00:03:58.733 --> 00:04:00.455 "Walking With the Giants." 00:04:00.455 --> 00:04:02.975 And in there, he's got all these 00:04:02.975 --> 00:04:05.919 short one page, page-and-a-half testimonies 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:07.049 of men and women of God 00:04:07.049 --> 00:04:09.132 that have been used down through the ages. 00:04:09.132 --> 00:04:12.088 And you know, I kept that book by my study for so long. 00:04:12.088 --> 00:04:13.384 You want to know why? 00:04:13.384 --> 00:04:15.031 Pastor, listen to me. 00:04:15.031 --> 00:04:18.387 When I would get where I didn't want to pray - 00:04:18.387 --> 00:04:20.232 I just wasn't motivated to pray - 00:04:20.232 --> 00:04:22.254 I'd open up that "Walking With the Giants" 00:04:22.254 --> 00:04:24.204 and I'd read about, I don't know, 00:04:24.204 --> 00:04:25.973 Praying Hyde of India 00:04:25.973 --> 00:04:27.683 or David Brainerd or something, 00:04:27.683 --> 00:04:30.324 and it would jar me to want to pray. 00:04:30.324 --> 00:04:32.550 Or, I'd sit there and it was Monday 00:04:32.550 --> 00:04:35.497 and I wasn't ready to take up the next sermon 00:04:35.497 --> 00:04:37.835 for next week and I was just kind of lethargic, 00:04:37.835 --> 00:04:39.194 I would open up that book 00:04:39.194 --> 00:04:40.974 and I'd read about Alexander MacLaren 00:04:40.974 --> 00:04:43.692 who would spend sixty hours on one sermon. 00:04:43.692 --> 00:04:45.105 And it would motivate me 00:04:45.105 --> 00:04:47.060 to get back in that study. 00:04:47.060 --> 00:04:50.040 A lot of people are saying this because they're wrong, 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:53.090 but in a lot of ways people are saying this 00:04:53.090 --> 00:04:54.205 because it's right. 00:04:54.205 --> 00:04:56.990 Pastors are not staying in the study long enough 00:04:56.990 --> 00:05:01.090 to come out and give their people a word from God. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:01.090 --> 00:05:03.167 Question: There seems to be 00:05:03.167 --> 00:05:04.545 a mentality today 00:05:04.545 --> 00:05:06.741 that if you as a pastor 00:05:06.741 --> 00:05:09.578 are not invited to be one of the main speakers 00:05:09.578 --> 00:05:10.644 or a keynote speaker 00:05:10.644 --> 00:05:12.339 at one of these big conferences 00:05:12.339 --> 00:05:14.616 where all the big names are getting together, 00:05:14.616 --> 00:05:16.955 then you're almost nothing. 00:05:16.955 --> 00:05:20.266 What damage do you think has been done today 00:05:20.266 --> 00:05:22.836 to the lack of appreciation and respect 00:05:22.836 --> 00:05:24.784 that should be given to the faithful, 00:05:24.784 --> 00:05:29.253 even though unpopular local pastor? NOTE Paragraph 00:05:29.253 --> 00:05:32.973 Paul: We have grown up as a culture 00:05:32.973 --> 00:05:37.250 that honors heroes, celebrities, 00:05:37.250 --> 00:05:38.704 whether they're worthy or not, 00:05:38.704 --> 00:05:40.946 we've got to make them heroes or celebrities 00:05:40.946 --> 00:05:44.185 because we just feel like we need them. 00:05:44.185 --> 00:05:47.960 One of the things that's terrifying me 00:05:47.960 --> 00:05:52.213 is there in reformed circles everywhere, 00:05:52.213 --> 00:05:55.693 there is this circle of celebrities. 00:05:55.693 --> 00:05:57.214 And in every big conference, 00:05:57.214 --> 00:05:59.152 it's going to be those men. 00:05:59.152 --> 00:06:02.601 Now, those men, I could name them, 00:06:02.601 --> 00:06:05.921 I'm not worthy to carry their sandals. 00:06:05.921 --> 00:06:07.416 They are honorable men. 00:06:07.416 --> 00:06:09.135 And it's not the men themselves, 00:06:09.135 --> 00:06:11.289 it's just that the reformed community 00:06:11.289 --> 00:06:14.416 and a lot of young people, 00:06:14.416 --> 00:06:17.218 they're looking to men now. 00:06:17.218 --> 00:06:19.781 And many times, they're looking over here 00:06:19.781 --> 00:06:21.559 to the person who writes the books 00:06:21.559 --> 00:06:23.779 and the person who preaches in the conference, 00:06:23.779 --> 00:06:26.056 and they're not honoring the very man 00:06:26.056 --> 00:06:28.417 who feeds them, prays for them, 00:06:28.417 --> 00:06:31.539 intercedes for them, visits them in the hospital. 00:06:31.539 --> 00:06:35.247 You see, what we need to realize is this. 00:06:35.247 --> 00:06:39.510 We just need to wait till Jesus comes back. 00:06:39.510 --> 00:06:41.097 And when He does, 00:06:41.097 --> 00:06:43.785 we are going to be greatly surprised. 00:06:43.785 --> 00:06:45.464 Greatly surprised. 00:06:45.464 --> 00:06:49.827 You know, it's not tough to preach in a conference. 00:06:49.827 --> 00:06:52.217 Well, sometimes it is when everybody's mad at you, 00:06:52.217 --> 00:06:54.804 but it's not really tough to preach in a conference. 00:06:54.804 --> 00:06:57.223 Why? You're asked to come to this conference. 00:06:57.223 --> 00:06:59.712 Everybody wants to see you. 00:06:59.712 --> 00:07:01.872 That's not difficult. 00:07:01.872 --> 00:07:04.908 That doesn't demonstrate godliness. 00:07:04.908 --> 00:07:07.511 What demonstrates godliness is the man 00:07:07.511 --> 00:07:10.019 who ministers to God's people 00:07:10.019 --> 00:07:12.109 and is hidden and is not recognized. 00:07:12.109 --> 00:07:14.417 But when the Great Shepherd comes back, 00:07:14.417 --> 00:07:17.083 he will be recognized.