[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.28,0:00:09.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WALTON FORD:​​\NI started out just painting these things Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.64,0:00:10.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that looked like Audubons. Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.72,0:00:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were like fake Audubons, Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.12,0:00:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I twisted the subject matter a bit, Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.08,0:00:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and got inside his head and tried to paint it Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.52,0:00:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as if it was really his tortured soul, Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.92,0:00:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as if his hand betrayed him and he painted Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.60,0:00:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what he didn't want to expose about himself. Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.16,0:00:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I did start doing those Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.60,0:00:27.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was very important to me then Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.44,0:00:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make them look like Audubons, Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.96,0:00:30.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make them look like they \Nwere a hundred years old, Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.84,0:00:32.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make them look like he painted them, Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.80,0:00:34.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that they escaped out \Nof him without, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.92,0:00:38.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost like a picture Dorian Gray, but you know, Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.52,0:00:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a natural history image. Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.92,0:00:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The whole print project seemed \Nlike the natural fruition Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.20,0:00:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of all the other stuff that I do. Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.80,0:00:52.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at that. Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.44,0:00:53.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Peter>Yeah, it's good.</v> Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.96,0:00:54.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->Beautious.</v> Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.24,0:00:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the folios of natural history prints Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.08,0:01:00.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started out as watercolors that were done Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.84,0:01:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the field or done from nature, Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.64,0:01:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they ended up as prints Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.00,0:01:06.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that were bound and sold by subscription, Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.44,0:01:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it makes sense to make them the way Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.64,0:01:10.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Peter and I make them. Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.85,0:01:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->We've been working on these \Nprints for over five years, Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.64,0:01:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the idea of doing the prints in this size Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.88,0:01:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was that we wanted as much as possible Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.84,0:01:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to mimic the Audubon Double \NFolio Birds of America book. Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.68,0:01:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we wanted to work in \Nsome of those same techniques Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.24,0:01:38.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Audubon would've used to make those prints. Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.44,0:01:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of our prints are done \Nwith six or seven plates, Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.52,0:01:48.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and separate colors on every plate Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.52,0:01:51.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and probably much more saturated color Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.48,0:01:53.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than Audubon would've ever used. Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.02,0:01:58.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(gears creaking) Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.56,0:02:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a part, I think, of \NWalton's way of picking up Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.48,0:02:07.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what Audubon did, but also changing it Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.96,0:02:09.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and distorting it a little bit, Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.40,0:02:12.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kinda turning up the irony a little bit. (laughs) Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.00,0:02:15.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Walton>Wow.</v> Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.80,0:02:16.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->That was good.</v> Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.90,0:02:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->Yeah, that's juicy!</v> Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.76,0:02:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Psychedelic. Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.44,0:02:21.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This looks cool. Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.16,0:02:25.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The registration looks pretty good. Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.72,0:02:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->That's good.</v> Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.84,0:02:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, that's encouraging 'cause Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.92,0:02:32.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're starting to get the feel of it, I think. Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.28,0:02:35.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->It's a pretty nice print, \Nlike generally just for. Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.64,0:02:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Peter>That blue is really</v> Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.16,0:02:39.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more intense, isn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.67,0:02:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, it's nice. Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.50,0:02:41.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Peter laughing)\NDig it! Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.12,0:02:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like it. Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.92,0:02:42.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, it's in. Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.28,0:02:48.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was a kid I loved to draw. Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.56,0:02:51.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was a little kind of amateur naturalist, Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.04,0:02:54.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,identifying birds and catching \Nsnakes and keeping weird pets. Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.12,0:02:58.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This museum was like heaven to me. Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.12,0:03:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that the dioramas here are works of art. Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.44,0:03:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For an artist it was really great \Nthat those animals didn't move. Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.84,0:03:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could look at them in a way that \Nyou can't look at animals in the zoo Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.44,0:03:13.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or animals on nature shows. Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.94,0:03:16.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could really see how they were put together. Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.43,0:03:25.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Passenger pigeons were the most numerous bird on the planet Earth. Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.37,0:03:28.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A single flock could have 2 billion birds in it. Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.40,0:03:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were such huge numbers of these birds Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.00,0:03:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it was frightening. Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.94,0:03:38.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When they land in forests, Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.49,0:03:40.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they break great trees in half. Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.30,0:03:45.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the crap would fall like snow the whole time. Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.55,0:03:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was thought that they were inexhaustible, Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.80,0:03:51.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they were hunted like mad. Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.53,0:03:59.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a series of photographs Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.16,0:04:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was taken in 1898. Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.16,0:04:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like doing these little research trips. Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.16,0:04:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s like play-acting for me \Nto pretend to be one of these Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.68,0:04:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,English natural history guys that \Nare both heroes and villains. Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.83,0:04:14.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's an image in here Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.83,0:04:18.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a full grown male passenger pigeon Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.19,0:04:22.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very beautifully posed, very proud bird. Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.35,0:04:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it sort of foretells disaster. Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.00,0:04:27.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It looks like because it's under lit, Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.28,0:04:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's already a ghost or a monster or somehow Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.54,0:04:32.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's some dark, dark undercurrent Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.54,0:04:34.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to this photo that's very beautiful. Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.88,0:04:38.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's many insane kind of like narratives Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.39,0:04:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have to do with the passenger pigeon. Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.00,0:04:42.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were so numerous that Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.52,0:04:45.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone who saw them was sort of blown away by them. Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.77,0:04:47.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I have some quotes that I ended up Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.33,0:04:48.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,putting on a painting. Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.98,0:04:49.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here they are. Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.44,0:04:53.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is one of the earliest descriptions from 1637. Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.27,0:04:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Millions of turtle doves on green bows, Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.08,0:05:00.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"which sat pecking of the full right pleasant crepes Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.36,0:05:02.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"that were supported by the lusty trees, Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.57,0:05:06.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"whose fruitful load did cause the arms to bend." Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.76,0:05:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The big thing I’m always looking for in my work Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.12,0:05:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a sort of attraction-repulsion, Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.28,0:05:17.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the stuff is beautiful \Nto begin with until you notice Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.64,0:05:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that some sort of horrible \Nviolence is about to happen Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.88,0:05:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or is in the middle of happening. Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.72,0:05:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The original impulse is to make a sort of like, Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.02,0:05:28.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nasty little underground \Ncartoon on a really large scale. Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.04,0:05:30.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a lot of fun sort of making these vignettes. Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.68,0:05:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They’re satisfying all their lusts Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.24,0:05:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all their cravings and all their crazy desires Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.80,0:05:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like as they are going down, Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.24,0:05:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to me there is just some \Nsort of black humor in that. Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.56,0:05:41.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is like these guys - the eggs are coming out Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.16,0:05:43.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as they are coming out they are being stolen. Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.40,0:05:46.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then it's fun to have them void on each other Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.92,0:05:48.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to have them murder each other. Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.52,0:05:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The little one is falling out of the nest. Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.64,0:05:55.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s a dark humor, but it \Nmakes me chuckle when I'm doing it. Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.99,0:05:57.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is this sort of Hudson River, Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.89,0:06:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of beautiful landscape. Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.16,0:06:02.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then over here there's some indication Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.97,0:06:05.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of maybe previous destruction, Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.78,0:06:07.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,branches that have broken down. Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.76,0:06:10.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And here come the huge flocks, you know. Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.83,0:06:12.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is the scary part, Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.57,0:06:14.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the sort of weather system moving in Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.58,0:06:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of these enormous flocks of birds. Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.86,0:06:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I started doing sketches for this Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.12,0:06:22.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I realized that the angle I was gonna paint it at, Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.75,0:06:23.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the sort of way I was gonna paint it, Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.96,0:06:25.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it would almost seemed like it was just floating, Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.51,0:06:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a sort of strange dream-like, Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.38,0:06:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slow-motion kind of falling. Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.58,0:06:34.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that dream-like quality gave me all this room Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.27,0:06:36.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to pack it with all this narrative Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.20,0:06:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that seems to happen sort of independent of the fact Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.60,0:06:41.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this thing is crashing down. Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.64,0:06:47.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The painting I’m working on now is uh, Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.59,0:06:50.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it’s a MONKEY BANQUET basically. Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.76,0:06:53.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it’s part of a series that has to do with Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.32,0:06:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this mid-19th century \Nexplorer, Sir Richard Burton. Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.56,0:07:01.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the stories that I was reading about him Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.96,0:07:03.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that stuck with me was this one about Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.96,0:07:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these monkeys he kept in his quarters Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.92,0:07:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he was a young British officer Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.24,0:07:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I’m gonna read a quote: Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.64,0:07:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“He gathered together forty \Nmonkeys of various ages Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.52,0:07:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and species and installed them in his house Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.04,0:07:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in an attempt to compile a \Nvocabulary of monkey language. Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.84,0:07:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one tiny one, very pretty, \Nsmall and silky looking monkey Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.24,0:07:27.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he used to call his wife.” Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.04,0:07:31.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I painted the wife individually, Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.52,0:07:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I named it ‘The Forsaken.’ Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.60,0:07:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She sits in a tree and she \Nlooks all heartbroken and bereft Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.96,0:07:39.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because she’s been abandoned by her lover. Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.28,0:07:45.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“They all sat down on chairs at mealtimes Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.40,0:07:47.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the servants waited on them Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.32,0:07:52.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and each had its bowl and plate with \Nthe food and drink proper for them. Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.12,0:07:54.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He sat at the head of the table Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.12,0:07:58.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the pretty little monkey sat \Nby him in a baby’s high chair.” Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.60,0:08:00.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That’s just too good. Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.11,0:08:03.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"He had a list of about 60 words Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.55,0:08:05.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"before the experiment was concluded." Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.44,0:08:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to me this, this is just what I’m looking for Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.00,0:08:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I’m doing all this reading. Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.36,0:08:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do a lot of research and this \Nthing has almost everything in it. Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.12,0:08:19.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There’s an erotic kind of fascination to it. Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.16,0:08:21.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There’s something that strikes me as humorous Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.40,0:08:25.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a quintessentially super-eccentric British way. Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.46,0:08:32.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When these paintings leave my studio, Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.37,0:08:34.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of times I don't ever get to see 'em again. Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.84,0:08:38.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I painted this picture about two years ago, Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.73,0:08:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was happy that I still liked it Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.68,0:08:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'cause a lot of times you come back to Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.60,0:08:46.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work you did a while ago and can't bear it. Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.84,0:08:49.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The drawing I did first is of this elephant, Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.80,0:08:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this glorious elephant. Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.64,0:08:55.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I divided it in \Na sort of Mondrian fashion Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.08,0:08:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into all these different - Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.88,0:09:02.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into a very, what I thought an elegant, \Nabstract composition of rectangles. Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.44,0:09:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in each rectangle I decided what to do. Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.60,0:09:08.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea of dividing it up \Ninto bits had to do with Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.16,0:09:12.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the parable about the blind man and the elephant, Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.04,0:09:15.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where each blind man grabs a hold \Nof a different part of the elephant, Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.52,0:09:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the one that grabs the tusk says, well, Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.04,0:09:18.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know what an elephant is: Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.12,0:09:21.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he’s smooth, hard, kind of like polished wood. Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.68,0:09:24.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then one grabs the leg \Nand says, no, no, no, it’s… Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.96,0:09:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an elephant is like a tree, \Nit’s like a tree trunk. Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.08,0:09:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the tail, the guy says, \Nwell, it’s like a paintbrush. Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.40,0:09:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the guy who has the \Nnose says it’s like a snake. Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.08,0:09:41.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I had this idea of having the \Nelephant divided up into bits Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.16,0:09:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that wouldn’t identify it as \Nan elephant all by itself, Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.60,0:09:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and have each one of those \Nthings framed individually. Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.48,0:09:52.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then have a different species \Nof bird inhabit that little frame, Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.12,0:09:53.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and do his thing within it. Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.72,0:09:54.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it’s like he doesn’t, Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.87,0:09:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he doesn’t see any of the other elements Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.00,0:09:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so he can’t put the whole picture together. Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.44,0:10:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s too vast for one person to picture. Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.12,0:10:06.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to make sort of the \Nlargest watercolors ever. Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.36,0:10:10.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ultimately that becomes fun all by itself. Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.44,0:10:12.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It took about nine months to paint. Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.72,0:10:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of this makes it sound \Nlike I have this great kind of Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.68,0:10:20.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intellectual reason for making these things, Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.68,0:10:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but ultimately I want to paint a sexy monkey, Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.92,0:10:28.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I want to paint a big, huge \Nyou know elephant with an erection. Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.60,0:10:29.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.27,0:10:31.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do I feel the need to make these things? Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.16,0:10:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why is it that you want to make \Nthem as disturbing as you can? Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.00,0:10:37.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or make them as violent and \Nout of control as you can? Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.08,0:10:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like kind of overwrought emotion, melodrama, Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.76,0:10:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very 19th-century modes of communicating. Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.08,0:10:47.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’m not a minimalist, I’m a maximalist. Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.92,0:10:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The more you throw at it the better. Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.64,0:10:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s a sort of a wasteland out there. Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.76,0:10:54.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to do rich things, Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.80,0:10:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to make rich dishes and put them out there.