0:00:00.130,0:00:02.200 0:00:03.645,0:00:05.600 欢迎观看诺贝尔对谈 0:00:07.250,0:00:10.240 在本集中,Josh Angrist 和 Guido Imbens 0:00:10.240,0:00:11.920 与 Isaiah Andrews 坐下来 0:00:11.920,0:00:14.303 讨论他们的研究最初是如何被接受的 0:00:14.999,0:00:17.090 以及他们如何回应批评 0:00:18.700,0:00:20.380 当时,你有没有觉得 0:00:20.380,0:00:21.627 自己在做一件大事 0:00:21.627,0:00:25.152 认为这会是一整套工程的开端 0:00:25.152,0:00:27.202 而这个工程将会非常重要,还是...? 0:00:27.600,0:00:30.000 说这是一套大工程 0:00:30.000,0:00:31.894 确实,我觉得,“哇,这--” 0:00:32.277,0:00:35.045 我们已经证明了一些[br]我们从前所不知道的事 0:00:35.045,0:00:36.114 而这是值得知道的 0:00:36.114,0:00:38.033 是,回到... 0:00:38.741,0:00:41.080 与我的就业市场报告或其他东西相比-- 0:00:41.080,0:00:45.560 不,我觉得这实际上[br]是一个非常清晰的结果 0:00:46.400,0:00:49.657 但肯定会有不同的解释 0:00:49.657,0:00:52.420 我想没有人会说 0:00:52.420,0:00:55.487 “好吧,这是研究人员的噩梦 0:00:56.043,0:00:59.386 0:01:00.230,0:01:02.003 你认为你发现了一些东西, 0:01:02.003,0:01:04.461 然后其他人说,‘哦,我知道。’” 0:01:05.000,0:01:07.220 但绝对有必要让大家相信 0:01:07.220,0:01:10.370 这是值得了解的,工具变量 0:01:10.370,0:01:12.687 估计了依从者的因果效应 0:01:13.200,0:01:16.178 是,即使需要很长时间 0:01:16.178,0:01:19.348 才能说服更多观众 0:01:19.820,0:01:24.346 有时也很快,但在一小群人中的 0:01:24.800,0:01:26.645 接受度还是不错的 0:01:27.200,0:01:31.297 Gary 显然从一开始就非常喜欢这个想法 0:01:31.800,0:01:33.289 我记得… 0:01:33.289,0:01:35.645 因为那时 Josh 已经去了以色列 0:01:35.645,0:01:38.886 但我记得向 Don Rubin 解释过 0:01:39.696,0:01:43.700 他说,“你可知,这不得了啊。" 0:01:43.700,0:01:45.197 虽然不是马上 0:01:45.932,0:01:47.173 Don 经过深思熟虑 0:01:47.500,0:01:49.150 当你和 Don 联系上的时候 0:01:49.150,0:01:51.226 我实际上已经和他 0:01:51.226,0:01:53.304 来回通信过几次 0:01:53.700,0:01:57.103 我记得某天我接到他的电话或电邮 0:01:57.103,0:02:00.020 他说他坐在罗马机场 0:02:00.020,0:02:03.700 看着报纸心想 0:02:03.700,0:02:07.000 “喔,不,你们实际上有了重大的发现。” 0:02:07.490,0:02:08.594 我们对此感到高兴 0:02:08.594,0:02:10.550 但这比我想的还要久才发生 0:02:11.030,0:02:12.500 那不是马上发生的 0:02:12.500,0:02:13.700 0:02:13.700,0:02:15.325 因为我知道那件事发生时 0:02:15.325,0:02:16.627 我已经回到了以色列 0:02:16.627,0:02:18.750 我在那个夏天去了以色列-- 0:02:19.390,0:02:21.190 我在哈佛只呆了两年 0:02:21.190,0:02:22.540 我们一起度过了一年 0:02:22.540,0:02:25.700 不简单啊,我的意思是[br]这一年对我们来说非常重要 0:02:25.900,0:02:27.200 是的 0:02:27.690,0:02:30.200 我们知道有好事发生了 0:02:30.200,0:02:33.700 但我们不认为那足以改变生活[br]回想起来才发现 0:02:33.700,0:02:35.620 0:02:35.620,0:02:37.495 0:02:37.495,0:02:39.190 0:02:39.190,0:02:42.190 0:02:43.090,0:02:45.912 0:02:45.912,0:02:47.620 0:02:47.620,0:02:49.331 0:02:50.100,0:02:52.128 0:02:52.128,0:02:54.450 0:02:54.450,0:02:55.751 0:02:55.751,0:02:58.360 0:02:58.360,0:02:59.721 0:02:59.721,0:03:01.119 0:03:01.119,0:03:06.117 0:03:06.117,0:03:07.800 0:03:08.900,0:03:11.324 0:03:11.324,0:03:14.297 0:03:14.297,0:03:20.572 0:03:21.300,0:03:24.490 0:03:25.100,0:03:27.200 0:03:27.200,0:03:30.952 0:03:32.570,0:03:34.900 0:03:34.900,0:03:37.699 0:03:37.699,0:03:41.386 0:03:41.386,0:03:43.640 0:03:43.640,0:03:45.551 0:03:46.300,0:03:50.369 0:03:51.200,0:03:55.664 0:03:56.900,0:03:59.483 0:03:59.483,0:04:03.051 0:04:03.051,0:04:05.878 0:04:05.878,0:04:08.395 0:04:08.620,0:04:10.190 0:04:10.820,0:04:13.835 0:04:13.970,0:04:15.649 0:04:17.426,0:04:19.238 0:04:20.168,0:04:23.080 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0:09:39.720,0:09:41.958 0:09:42.630,0:09:46.000 0:09:46.400,0:09:47.500 0:09:48.671,0:09:50.245 0:09:50.245,0:09:53.348 0:09:53.348,0:09:56.435 0:09:57.200,0:09:59.736 0:10:00.196,0:10:01.376 0:10:01.376,0:10:03.410 0:10:03.410,0:10:04.583 0:10:05.000,0:10:07.000 0:10:07.000,0:10:08.460 0:10:08.460,0:10:09.560 0:10:09.560,0:10:11.100 0:10:11.100,0:10:12.498 0:10:12.498,0:10:15.143 若您想观看其他的诺贝尔对谈视频 0:10:15.143,0:10:16.207 请单击此处 0:10:16.207,0:10:18.409 或者,如果您想了解[br]计量经济学的更多相关信息 0:10:18.640,0:10:21.240 请查看 Josh 的 [br]Mastering Econometrics 系列视频 0:10:21.800,0:10:24.540 如果您想了解更多关于 [br]Guido、Josh 和 Isaiah 的信息 0:10:24.860,0:10:26.502 请查看说明中的链接