WEBVTT 00:00:09.100 --> 00:00:11.200 [洛杉矶动物园旧址] 00:00:12.840 --> 00:00:15.840 我总觉得这是他们之前关狮子的地方 00:00:19.200 --> 00:00:22.420 在上世纪六、七十年代,我的父母带我们去动物园 00:00:22.430 --> 00:00:24.870 但他们这样让我很沮丧 00:00:26.520 --> 00:00:29.140 你知道吗,我有个朋友带她女儿去动物园 00:00:29.140 --> 00:00:31.550 我问他:“为什么要带她去? 00:00:31.550 --> 00:00:33.270 让一个小孩子看到 00:00:33.270 --> 00:00:36.330 我们就是这么对待大自然的?“ 00:00:36.330 --> 00:00:38.400 他说:“行,那你让她去哪看长颈鹿呢?” 00:00:38.400 --> 00:00:40.940 我说:“哦,或许她就不该看长颈鹿! 00:00:41.900 --> 00:00:43.800 或许唯一适合看长颈鹿的地方 00:00:43.800 --> 00:00:45.100 是国家地理频道 00:00:45.100 --> 00:00:48.320 这也许就是我们要这个台的原因,不是吗? 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:50.440 看自然类纪录片 00:00:52.220 --> 00:00:57.059 瑞克·欧贝瑞常说,把动物置于这样的(封闭)空间中 00:00:57.059 --> 00:00:59.279 会使它们近乎精神错乱 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:06.180 这和切尔诺贝利事件差不多性质了 00:01:06.190 --> 00:01:07.670 但这是…… 00:01:08.180 --> 00:01:10.540 这是另一种灾难 00:01:10.550 --> 00:01:12.950 你知道,这种不……它正在发生 00:01:16.130 --> 00:01:19.680 作为(动物保护领域)活跃人士,我坚决反对囚禁动物 00:01:22.100 --> 00:01:24.240 [欢迎来到] 00:01:24.240 --> 00:01:25.800 在我为瑞克·欧贝瑞的海豚项目工作期间 00:01:25.800 --> 00:01:30.819 我们所做的一切都是在阻止对鲸目动物的捕捉 00:01:30.819 --> 00:01:34.259 以及贩卖 卖去海洋公园或表演娱乐节目 00:01:35.660 --> 00:01:39.640 我直到2010年才开始积极参与此类工作 00:01:40.360 --> 00:01:44.060 因此我总感到有些失落 00:01:50.580 --> 00:01:52.280 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:56.720 我对介入动物保护和工作各是各的态度 00:01:56.720 --> 00:01:58.360 倘若混起来应该会一团糟 00:01:59.320 --> 00:02:01.540 艺术家的身份会带来不同 00:02:01.540 --> 00:02:03.460 立场会暧昧得多 00:02:06.660 --> 00:02:13.520 当你拍摄非叙事性的自然影像时 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:14.960 问题就来了—— 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:16.900 [笑]压根没有叙事 00:02:16.900 --> 00:02:18.700 那你还剪辑个什么劲呢? 00:02:19.960 --> 00:02:23.440 00:02:23.450 --> 00:02:24.720 00:02:24.720 --> 00:02:28.040 00:02:29.189 --> 00:02:32.450 00:02:32.450 --> 00:02:35.630 00:02:36.260 --> 00:02:39.780 00:02:39.780 --> 00:02:42.000 00:02:42.010 --> 00:02:44.830 00:02:48.109 --> 00:02:50.829 00:02:50.829 --> 00:02:54.749 00:02:54.749 --> 00:02:56.890 00:02:56.890 --> 00:03:02.079 00:03:02.079 --> 00:03:04.290 00:03:04.290 --> 00:03:08.750 00:03:14.740 --> 00:03:19.060 00:03:19.069 --> 00:03:22.139 00:03:22.139 --> 00:03:24.800 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:26.620 00:03:26.620 --> 00:03:29.200 00:03:29.209 --> 00:03:32.149 00:03:34.440 --> 00:03:38.459 00:03:38.459 --> 00:03:44.590 00:03:44.590 --> 00:03:47.910 00:03:48.460 --> 00:03:50.879 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:54.770 00:03:54.770 --> 00:03:59.310 00:03:59.960 --> 00:04:03.980 00:04:05.079 --> 00:04:08.439 00:04:08.440 --> 00:04:10.800 00:04:10.810 --> 00:04:14.170