1 00:00:01,063 --> 00:00:05,182 It was April 8, 2003. 2 00:00:05,856 --> 00:00:10,381 I was in Baghdad, covering the war in Iraq. 3 00:00:10,405 --> 00:00:15,063 That day, Americans tanks started arriving in Baghdad. 4 00:00:16,039 --> 00:00:21,333 We were just a few journalists in the Palestine Hotel, 5 00:00:23,435 --> 00:00:25,858 and, as happens in war, 6 00:00:25,882 --> 00:00:28,886 the fighting began to approach outside our windows. 7 00:00:30,327 --> 00:00:34,525 Baghdad was covered in black smoke and oil. 8 00:00:34,955 --> 00:00:36,113 It smelled awful. 9 00:00:36,137 --> 00:00:38,828 We couldn't see a thing, but we knew what was happening. 10 00:00:38,852 --> 00:00:41,342 Of course, I was supposed to be writing an article, 11 00:00:41,366 --> 00:00:42,902 but that's how it always goes -- 12 00:00:42,926 --> 00:00:45,564 you're supposed to be writing and something big happens. 13 00:00:45,588 --> 00:00:48,315 So I was in my room on the 16th floor, 14 00:00:48,339 --> 00:00:51,221 writing and looking out the window every now and then 15 00:00:51,245 --> 00:00:53,029 to see what was happening. 16 00:00:53,053 --> 00:00:55,523 Suddenly, there was a huge explosion. 17 00:00:55,547 --> 00:00:57,483 During the previous three weeks, 18 00:00:57,507 --> 00:01:01,626 there had been shelling with half-ton missiles, 19 00:01:01,650 --> 00:01:03,840 but this time, the shock -- 20 00:01:04,728 --> 00:01:07,225 I felt it inside of me, 21 00:01:07,249 --> 00:01:09,250 and I thought, "It's very close. 22 00:01:09,274 --> 00:01:11,272 It's very, very close." 23 00:01:11,296 --> 00:01:13,676 So I went down to see what was happening. 24 00:01:13,700 --> 00:01:16,389 I went down to the 15th floor 25 00:01:17,671 --> 00:01:19,019 to take a look. 26 00:01:19,043 --> 00:01:22,195 And I saw people, journalists, screaming in the hallways. 27 00:01:22,670 --> 00:01:24,901 I walked into a room 28 00:01:24,925 --> 00:01:29,125 and realized that it had been hit by a missile. 29 00:01:30,169 --> 00:01:32,170 Someone had been wounded. 30 00:01:33,304 --> 00:01:35,372 There was a man near the window, 31 00:01:35,396 --> 00:01:38,579 a cameraman named Taras Protsyuk, 32 00:01:40,245 --> 00:01:42,247 lying face-down. 33 00:01:46,796 --> 00:01:50,972 Having worked in a hospital before, I wanted to help out. 34 00:01:50,996 --> 00:01:52,497 So I turned him over. 35 00:01:52,521 --> 00:01:54,223 And when I turned him over, 36 00:01:56,334 --> 00:01:59,485 I noticed that he was open from sternum to pubis, 37 00:01:59,509 --> 00:02:01,619 but I couldn't see anything, nothing at all. 38 00:02:02,467 --> 00:02:09,221 All I saw was a white, pearly, shiny spot that blinded me, 39 00:02:09,245 --> 00:02:11,252 and I didn't understand what was going on. 40 00:02:11,879 --> 00:02:14,531 Once the spot disappeared and I could see his wound, 41 00:02:14,555 --> 00:02:16,132 which was very serious, 42 00:02:16,156 --> 00:02:18,251 my buddies and I put a sheet underneath him, 43 00:02:18,275 --> 00:02:22,060 and we carried him onto an elevator that stopped at each of the 15 floors. 44 00:02:22,616 --> 00:02:24,960 We put him in a car that took him to the hospital. 45 00:02:24,984 --> 00:02:26,746 He died on the way to the hospital. 46 00:02:26,770 --> 00:02:31,760 The Spanish cameraman José Couso, who was on the 14th floor and also hit -- 47 00:02:31,784 --> 00:02:35,094 because the shell had exploded between the two floors -- 48 00:02:35,118 --> 00:02:37,054 died on the operating table. 49 00:02:37,078 --> 00:02:39,475 As soon as the car left, I went back. 50 00:02:39,499 --> 00:02:41,832 There was that article I was supposed to write -- 51 00:02:41,856 --> 00:02:43,522 which I had to write. 52 00:02:44,117 --> 00:02:45,846 And so -- 53 00:02:45,870 --> 00:02:52,768 I returned to the hotel lobby with my arms covered in blood, 54 00:02:52,792 --> 00:02:55,332 when one of the hotel gofers stopped me 55 00:02:55,356 --> 00:02:59,203 and asked me to pay the tax I hadn't paid for 10 days. 56 00:02:59,227 --> 00:03:01,035 I told him to get lost. 57 00:03:01,059 --> 00:03:05,669 And I said to myself: "Clear your head, put it all aside. 58 00:03:07,097 --> 00:03:09,546 If you want to write, you need to put it all aside." 59 00:03:09,570 --> 00:03:10,785 And that's what I did. 60 00:03:10,809 --> 00:03:13,713 I went upstairs, wrote my article and sent it off. 61 00:03:15,077 --> 00:03:18,998 Later, aside from the feeling of having lost my colleagues, 62 00:03:19,895 --> 00:03:22,418 something else was bothering me. 63 00:03:22,442 --> 00:03:26,209 I kept seeing that shiny, pearly spot, 64 00:03:28,735 --> 00:03:31,123 and I couldn't understand what it meant. 65 00:03:31,731 --> 00:03:34,246 And then, the war was over. 66 00:03:36,572 --> 00:03:42,668 Later, I thought: "That's not possible. I can't just not know what happened." 67 00:03:42,692 --> 00:03:46,153 Because it wasn't the first time, and it didn't only happen to me. 68 00:03:46,177 --> 00:03:50,082 I have seen things like that happen to others 69 00:03:50,106 --> 00:03:52,774 in my 20 to 35 years of reporting. 70 00:03:52,798 --> 00:03:56,084 I have seen things that had an effect on me too. 71 00:03:56,108 --> 00:03:59,153 For example, there was this man I knew in Lebanon, 72 00:03:59,177 --> 00:04:02,083 a 25-year-old veteran who had been fighting for five years -- 73 00:04:02,107 --> 00:04:04,450 a real veteran -- who we would follow everywhere. 74 00:04:04,474 --> 00:04:07,960 He would crawl in the dark with confidence -- 75 00:04:08,731 --> 00:04:11,143 he was a great soldier, a true soldier -- 76 00:04:11,167 --> 00:04:14,524 so we would follow him, knowing that we would be safe with him. 77 00:04:14,548 --> 00:04:16,856 And one day, as I was told -- 78 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,476 and I've seen him again since -- 79 00:04:18,500 --> 00:04:20,841 he was back in the camp, playing cards, 80 00:04:20,865 --> 00:04:22,746 when someone came in next door, 81 00:04:24,158 --> 00:04:26,294 and discharged their weapon. 82 00:04:26,318 --> 00:04:27,826 As the gun went off, 83 00:04:27,850 --> 00:04:33,405 that blast, that one shot, made him duck quickly under the table, 84 00:04:34,204 --> 00:04:35,418 like a child. 85 00:04:35,442 --> 00:04:37,333 He was shaking, panicking. 86 00:04:37,357 --> 00:04:42,165 And since then, he has never been able to get up and fight. 87 00:04:42,189 --> 00:04:44,881 He ended up working as a croupier 88 00:04:44,905 --> 00:04:47,027 in a Beirut casino where I later found him, 89 00:04:47,051 --> 00:04:49,920 because he couldn't sleep, so it was quite a suitable job. 90 00:04:50,378 --> 00:04:52,195 So I thought to myself, 91 00:04:52,957 --> 00:04:55,218 "What is this thing that can kill you 92 00:04:56,035 --> 00:05:00,592 without leaving any visible scars? 93 00:05:00,974 --> 00:05:02,957 How does that happen? 94 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,040 What is this unknown thing? 95 00:05:07,206 --> 00:05:11,573 It was too common to be coincidental. 96 00:05:11,597 --> 00:05:13,255 So I started to investigate -- 97 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,273 that's all I know how to do. 98 00:05:15,297 --> 00:05:17,140 I started to investigate 99 00:05:17,164 --> 00:05:19,711 by looking through books, 100 00:05:20,836 --> 00:05:23,178 reaching out to psychiatrists, 101 00:05:23,202 --> 00:05:25,764 going to museums, libraries, etc. 102 00:05:26,224 --> 00:05:30,323 Finally, I discovered that some people knew about this -- 103 00:05:30,950 --> 00:05:32,880 often military psychiatrists -- 104 00:05:32,904 --> 00:05:37,793 and that what we were dealing with was called trauma. 105 00:05:37,817 --> 00:05:42,643 Americans call it PTSD or traumatic neurosis. 106 00:05:42,667 --> 00:05:44,532 It was something 107 00:05:46,262 --> 00:05:47,658 that existed, 108 00:05:48,206 --> 00:05:50,388 but that we never spoke about. 109 00:05:52,206 --> 00:05:53,610 So, this trauma -- 110 00:05:54,452 --> 00:05:55,609 what is it? 111 00:05:55,633 --> 00:05:58,444 Well, it's an encounter with death. 112 00:05:59,126 --> 00:06:01,928 I don't know if you've ever had an experience with death -- 113 00:06:01,952 --> 00:06:03,835 I'm not talking about dead bodies, 114 00:06:03,859 --> 00:06:07,460 or someone's grandfather lying in a hospital bed, 115 00:06:07,484 --> 00:06:11,058 or someone who got hit by a car. 116 00:06:12,134 --> 00:06:16,594 I'm talking about facing the void of death. 117 00:06:17,688 --> 00:06:23,861 And that is something no one is supposed to see. 118 00:06:23,885 --> 00:06:25,727 People used to say, 119 00:06:25,751 --> 00:06:29,726 "Neither the sun, nor death can be looked at with a steady eye." 120 00:06:29,750 --> 00:06:33,984 A human being should not have to face the void of death. 121 00:06:34,008 --> 00:06:35,849 But when that happens, 122 00:06:37,801 --> 00:06:41,549 it can remain invisible for a while -- 123 00:06:41,573 --> 00:06:44,341 days, weeks, months, sometimes years. 124 00:06:44,365 --> 00:06:46,126 And then, at some point, 125 00:06:47,587 --> 00:06:48,873 it explodes, 126 00:06:48,897 --> 00:06:52,641 because it's something that has entered your brain -- 127 00:06:52,665 --> 00:06:57,316 a sort of window between an image and your mind -- 128 00:06:57,340 --> 00:06:59,665 that has penetrated your brain, 129 00:06:59,689 --> 00:07:04,279 staying there and taking up all the space inside. 130 00:07:05,541 --> 00:07:08,190 And there are people -- men, women, 131 00:07:08,858 --> 00:07:11,496 who suddenly no longer sleep. 132 00:07:12,376 --> 00:07:14,721 And they experience horrible anxiety attacks -- 133 00:07:14,745 --> 00:07:17,775 panic attacks, not just minor fears. 134 00:07:17,799 --> 00:07:20,105 They suddenly don't want to sleep, 135 00:07:20,129 --> 00:07:24,663 because when they do, they have the same nightmare every night. 136 00:07:24,687 --> 00:07:26,607 They see the same image every night. 137 00:07:26,631 --> 00:07:28,258 What type of image? 138 00:07:28,282 --> 00:07:31,085 For example, a soldier who enters a building 139 00:07:31,109 --> 00:07:33,943 and comes face to face with another soldier aiming at him. 140 00:07:33,967 --> 00:07:36,530 He looks at the gun, straight down the barrel. 141 00:07:36,554 --> 00:07:40,138 And this barrel suddenly becomes enormous, deformed. 142 00:07:40,162 --> 00:07:42,916 It becomes fluffy, swallowing everything. 143 00:07:42,940 --> 00:07:44,540 And he says -- 144 00:07:46,376 --> 00:07:48,718 later he will say, "I saw death. 145 00:07:48,742 --> 00:07:51,243 I saw myself dead, therefore I'm dead." 146 00:07:51,267 --> 00:07:55,124 And from then on, he knows he is dead. 147 00:07:55,148 --> 00:08:00,033 It is not a perception -- he is convinced that he is dead. 148 00:08:00,057 --> 00:08:03,589 In reality, someone came in, the guy left or didn't shoot, whatever, 149 00:08:03,613 --> 00:08:05,260 and he didn't actually get shot -- 150 00:08:05,284 --> 00:08:06,992 but to him, he died in that moment. 151 00:08:07,016 --> 00:08:09,123 Or it can be the smell of a mass grave -- 152 00:08:09,147 --> 00:08:10,952 I saw a lot of that in Rwanda. 153 00:08:11,510 --> 00:08:14,502 It can be the voice of a friend calling, 154 00:08:15,113 --> 00:08:18,873 and they're being slaughtered and there's nothing you can do. 155 00:08:18,897 --> 00:08:20,103 You hear that voice, 156 00:08:20,127 --> 00:08:25,633 and you wake up every night -- for weeks, months -- 157 00:08:25,657 --> 00:08:28,414 in a trance-like state, anxious and terrified, 158 00:08:28,438 --> 00:08:29,793 like a child. 159 00:08:29,817 --> 00:08:31,396 I have seen men cry -- 160 00:08:32,652 --> 00:08:34,015 just like children -- 161 00:08:34,442 --> 00:08:36,138 from seeing the same image. 162 00:08:36,162 --> 00:08:40,928 So having that image of horror in your brain, 163 00:08:42,659 --> 00:08:44,497 seeing the void of death -- 164 00:08:44,521 --> 00:08:48,226 also called a "nanologo," an image that is hiding something -- 165 00:08:48,250 --> 00:08:49,504 will completely take over. 166 00:08:49,528 --> 00:08:51,835 You cannot do anything, anything at all. 167 00:08:51,859 --> 00:08:53,153 You cannot work anymore, 168 00:08:53,177 --> 00:08:54,460 you cannot love anymore. 169 00:08:54,484 --> 00:08:56,411 You go home and don't recognize anyone. 170 00:08:56,435 --> 00:08:58,442 You don't even recognize yourself. 171 00:09:01,181 --> 00:09:04,705 You hide and don't leave the house, you lock yourself in, you become ill. 172 00:09:04,729 --> 00:09:09,143 I know people who placed small cans outside their house with coins inside, 173 00:09:09,167 --> 00:09:11,033 in case someone tried to get in. 174 00:09:11,057 --> 00:09:13,929 All of a sudden, you feel like you want to die or kill 175 00:09:13,953 --> 00:09:15,501 or hide or run away. 176 00:09:15,525 --> 00:09:17,676 You want to be loved, but you hate everyone. 177 00:09:17,700 --> 00:09:21,613 It's a feeling that seizes you entirely 178 00:09:22,644 --> 00:09:24,375 day in and day out, 179 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:28,303 and you suffer tremendously. 180 00:09:29,351 --> 00:09:30,828 And no one understands. 181 00:09:30,852 --> 00:09:34,620 They say, "There's nothing wrong with you. You seem fine, you have no injuries. 182 00:09:34,644 --> 00:09:37,138 You went to war, came back; you're fine." 183 00:09:38,231 --> 00:09:40,113 These people suffer tremendously. 184 00:09:40,137 --> 00:09:41,716 Some commit suicide. 185 00:09:42,035 --> 00:09:44,749 After all, suicide is like updating your daily planner -- 186 00:09:44,773 --> 00:09:47,084 I'm already dead, I might as well commit suicide. 187 00:09:47,108 --> 00:09:49,043 Plus, there is no more pain. 188 00:09:49,067 --> 00:09:53,097 Some commit suicide, others end up under the bridge, drinking. 189 00:09:53,121 --> 00:09:57,493 Everyone remembers that grandfather or uncle or neighbor 190 00:09:57,517 --> 00:09:59,487 who used to drink, never said a word, 191 00:09:59,511 --> 00:10:01,280 always in a bad mood, beat his wife 192 00:10:01,304 --> 00:10:05,433 and who would end up either sinking into alcoholism or dying. 193 00:10:05,457 --> 00:10:08,237 And why do we not talk about this? 194 00:10:08,261 --> 00:10:11,380 We don't talk about it because it's taboo. 195 00:10:12,157 --> 00:10:15,924 It's not like we don't have the words to express the void of death. 196 00:10:15,948 --> 00:10:17,716 But others don't want hear it. 197 00:10:17,740 --> 00:10:19,854 The first time I returned from an assignment, 198 00:10:19,878 --> 00:10:21,404 They said, "Oh! He's back." 199 00:10:21,428 --> 00:10:24,524 There was a fancy dinner -- white tablecloth, candles, guests. 200 00:10:24,548 --> 00:10:25,740 "Tell us everything!" 201 00:10:25,764 --> 00:10:27,087 Which I did. 202 00:10:28,075 --> 00:10:30,559 After 20 minutes, people were giving me dirty looks, 203 00:10:30,583 --> 00:10:32,588 the hostess had her nose in the ashtray. 204 00:10:32,612 --> 00:10:35,583 It was horrible and I realized I ruined the whole evening. 205 00:10:35,607 --> 00:10:37,516 So I don't talk about it anymore. 206 00:10:37,540 --> 00:10:39,081 We're just not ready to listen. 207 00:10:39,105 --> 00:10:40,833 People say outright: "Please, stop." 208 00:10:40,857 --> 00:10:42,954 Is that a rare occurrence? 209 00:10:42,978 --> 00:10:45,380 No, it's extremely common. 210 00:10:45,404 --> 00:10:47,557 One third of the soldiers who died in Iraq -- 211 00:10:47,581 --> 00:10:50,103 well, not "died," let me re-phrase that -- 212 00:10:50,127 --> 00:10:53,267 one third of the US soldiers who went to Iraq 213 00:10:53,291 --> 00:10:54,929 suffer from PTSD. 214 00:10:54,953 --> 00:11:00,874 In 1939, there were still 200,000 soldiers from the First World War 215 00:11:00,898 --> 00:11:04,273 that were being treated in British psychiatric hospitals. 216 00:11:05,066 --> 00:11:07,500 In Vietnam, 54,000 people died -- 217 00:11:07,524 --> 00:11:08,867 Americans. 218 00:11:08,891 --> 00:11:13,064 In 1987, the US government identified 102,000 -- 219 00:11:13,088 --> 00:11:14,302 twice as many -- 220 00:11:14,326 --> 00:11:16,950 102,000 veterans who died from committing suicide. 221 00:11:16,974 --> 00:11:19,790 Twice as many deaths by suicide than by combat in Vietnam. 222 00:11:19,814 --> 00:11:22,972 So you see, this relates to everything, 223 00:11:22,996 --> 00:11:25,335 not just modern warfare, but also ancient wars -- 224 00:11:25,359 --> 00:11:28,358 you can read about it, the evidence is there. 225 00:11:28,382 --> 00:11:30,627 So why do we not talk about it? 226 00:11:30,651 --> 00:11:33,096 Why have we not talked about it? 227 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,588 The problem is that if you don't talk about it, 228 00:11:38,642 --> 00:11:40,237 you're heading for disaster. 229 00:11:41,528 --> 00:11:44,343 The only way to heal -- 230 00:11:44,367 --> 00:11:47,565 and the good news here is that this is treatable -- 231 00:11:48,829 --> 00:11:50,900 think Munch's The Scream, Goya, etc. -- 232 00:11:50,924 --> 00:11:52,209 it's indeed treatable. 233 00:11:52,233 --> 00:11:56,793 The only way to heal from this trauma, 234 00:11:56,817 --> 00:12:01,873 from this encounter with death that overwhelms, petrifies and kills you 235 00:12:01,897 --> 00:12:05,897 is to find a way to express it. 236 00:12:06,540 --> 00:12:08,279 People used to say, 237 00:12:08,303 --> 00:12:11,870 "Language is the only thing that holds all of us together." 238 00:12:11,894 --> 00:12:14,235 Without language, we're nothing. 239 00:12:14,259 --> 00:12:16,876 It's the thing that makes us human. 240 00:12:16,900 --> 00:12:18,877 In the face of such a horrible image -- 241 00:12:18,901 --> 00:12:24,427 a wordless image of oblivion that obsesses us -- 242 00:12:24,451 --> 00:12:26,910 the only way to cope with it 243 00:12:28,109 --> 00:12:30,210 is to put human words to it. 244 00:12:30,234 --> 00:12:32,660 Because these people feel excluded from humanity. 245 00:12:32,684 --> 00:12:35,890 No one wants to see them anymore and they don't want to see anyone. 246 00:12:35,914 --> 00:12:38,335 They feel dirty, defiled, ashamed. 247 00:12:38,359 --> 00:12:41,603 Someone said, "Doctor, I don't use the subway anymore 248 00:12:41,627 --> 00:12:44,841 because I'm afraid people will see the horror in my eyes." 249 00:12:44,865 --> 00:12:47,731 Another guy thought he had a terrible skin disease 250 00:12:47,755 --> 00:12:51,592 and spent six months with dermatologists, going from doctor to doctor. 251 00:12:51,616 --> 00:12:54,155 And then one day, they sent him to a psychiatrist. 252 00:12:54,179 --> 00:12:56,584 During his second session, he told the psychiatrist 253 00:12:56,608 --> 00:12:58,938 he had a terrible skin disease from head to toe. 254 00:12:58,962 --> 00:13:01,881 The psychiatrist asked, "Why are you in this state?" 255 00:13:01,905 --> 00:13:05,231 And the man said, "Well, because I'm dead, so I must be rotting away." 256 00:13:05,255 --> 00:13:09,668 So you see this is something that has a profound effect on people. 257 00:13:09,692 --> 00:13:12,101 In order to heal, we need to talk about it. 258 00:13:12,125 --> 00:13:16,069 The horror needs to be put into words -- 259 00:13:16,093 --> 00:13:20,276 human words, so we can organize it and talk about it again. 260 00:13:20,300 --> 00:13:24,442 We have to look death in the face. 261 00:13:25,061 --> 00:13:30,156 And if we can do that, if we can talk about these things, 262 00:13:30,180 --> 00:13:33,605 then step by step, by working it out verbally, 263 00:13:33,629 --> 00:13:36,557 we can reclaim our place in humanity. 264 00:13:37,549 --> 00:13:38,813 And it is important. 265 00:13:38,837 --> 00:13:40,525 Silence kills us. 266 00:13:41,789 --> 00:13:43,211 So what does this mean? 267 00:13:43,235 --> 00:13:45,251 It means that after a trauma, 268 00:13:45,275 --> 00:13:48,910 without question, we lose our "unbearable lightness of being," 269 00:13:48,934 --> 00:13:51,688 that sense of immortality that keeps us here -- 270 00:13:51,712 --> 00:13:55,624 meaning, if we're here, we almost feel like we're immortal, which we're not, 271 00:13:55,648 --> 00:13:58,991 but if we didn't believe that, we'd say, "What's the point of it all?" 272 00:13:59,015 --> 00:14:01,805 But trauma survivors have lost that feeling of immortality. 273 00:14:01,829 --> 00:14:03,224 They've lost their lightness. 274 00:14:03,248 --> 00:14:04,987 But they have found something else. 275 00:14:05,011 --> 00:14:08,271 So this means that if we manage to look death in the face, 276 00:14:09,546 --> 00:14:14,448 and actually confront it, rather than keep quiet and hide, 277 00:14:14,472 --> 00:14:16,951 like some of the men or women I know did, 278 00:14:16,975 --> 00:14:23,629 such as Michael from Rwanda, Carole from Iraq, Philippe from the Congo 279 00:14:23,653 --> 00:14:24,879 and other people I know, 280 00:14:24,903 --> 00:14:27,001 like Sorj Chalandon, now a great writer, 281 00:14:27,025 --> 00:14:29,316 who gave up field assignments after a trauma. 282 00:14:29,340 --> 00:14:31,558 Five friends of mine committed suicide, 283 00:14:31,582 --> 00:14:34,158 they're the ones who did not survive the trauma. 284 00:14:34,182 --> 00:14:39,728 So if we can look death in the face, 285 00:14:39,752 --> 00:14:42,530 if we, mortal humans, human mortals, 286 00:14:42,554 --> 00:14:45,395 understand that we are human and mortal, mortal and human, 287 00:14:45,419 --> 00:14:51,666 if we can confront death and identify it once again 288 00:14:51,690 --> 00:14:54,753 as the most mysterious place of all mysterious places, 289 00:14:55,570 --> 00:14:58,126 since no one has ever seen it -- 290 00:14:58,150 --> 00:15:00,813 if we can give it back this meaning, 291 00:15:00,837 --> 00:15:03,678 yes, we may die, 292 00:15:05,686 --> 00:15:07,281 survive 293 00:15:08,011 --> 00:15:09,438 and come back to life, 294 00:15:09,462 --> 00:15:12,555 but we'll come back stronger than before. 295 00:15:12,579 --> 00:15:13,889 Much stronger. 296 00:15:13,913 --> 00:15:15,067 Thank you. 297 00:15:15,091 --> 00:15:16,858 (Applause)