WEBVTT 00:00:01.063 --> 00:00:05.182 It was April 8, 2003. 00:00:05.856 --> 00:00:10.381 I was in Baghdad, covering the war in Iraq. 00:00:10.405 --> 00:00:15.063 That day, Americans tanks started arriving in Baghdad. 00:00:16.039 --> 00:00:21.333 We were just a few journalists in the Palestine Hotel, 00:00:23.435 --> 00:00:25.858 and, as happens in war, 00:00:25.882 --> 00:00:28.886 the fighting began to approach outside our windows. 00:00:30.327 --> 00:00:34.525 Baghdad was covered in black smoke and oil. 00:00:34.955 --> 00:00:36.113 It smelled awful. 00:00:36.137 --> 00:00:38.828 We couldn't see a thing, but we knew what was happening. 00:00:38.852 --> 00:00:41.342 Of course, I was supposed to be writing an article, 00:00:41.366 --> 00:00:42.902 but that's how it always goes -- 00:00:42.926 --> 00:00:45.564 you're supposed to be writing and something big happens. 00:00:45.588 --> 00:00:48.315 So I was in my room on the 16th floor, 00:00:48.339 --> 00:00:51.221 writing and looking out the window every now and then 00:00:51.245 --> 00:00:53.029 to see what was happening. 00:00:53.053 --> 00:00:55.523 Suddenly, there was a huge explosion. 00:00:55.547 --> 00:00:57.483 During the previous three weeks, 00:00:57.507 --> 00:01:01.626 there had been shelling with half-ton missiles, 00:01:01.650 --> 00:01:03.840 but this time, the shock -- 00:01:04.728 --> 00:01:07.225 I felt it inside of me, 00:01:07.249 --> 00:01:09.250 and I thought, "It's very close. 00:01:09.274 --> 00:01:11.272 It's very, very close." 00:01:11.296 --> 00:01:13.676 So I went down to see what was happening. 00:01:13.700 --> 00:01:16.389 I went down to the 15th floor 00:01:17.671 --> 00:01:19.019 to take a look. 00:01:19.043 --> 00:01:22.195 And I saw people, journalists, screaming in the hallways. 00:01:22.670 --> 00:01:24.901 I walked into a room 00:01:24.925 --> 00:01:29.125 and realized that it had been hit by a missile. 00:01:30.169 --> 00:01:32.170 Someone had been wounded. 00:01:33.304 --> 00:01:35.372 There was a man near the window, 00:01:35.396 --> 00:01:38.579 a cameraman named Taras Protsyuk, 00:01:40.245 --> 00:01:42.247 lying face-down. 00:01:46.796 --> 00:01:50.972 Having worked in a hospital before, I wanted to help out. 00:01:50.996 --> 00:01:52.497 So I turned him over. 00:01:52.521 --> 00:01:54.223 And when I turned him over, 00:01:56.334 --> 00:01:59.485 I noticed that he was open from sternum to pubis, 00:01:59.509 --> 00:02:01.619 but I couldn't see anything, nothing at all. 00:02:02.467 --> 00:02:09.221 All I saw was a white, pearly, shiny spot that blinded me, 00:02:09.245 --> 00:02:11.252 and I didn't understand what was going on. 00:02:11.879 --> 00:02:14.531 Once the spot disappeared and I could see his wound, 00:02:14.555 --> 00:02:16.132 which was very serious, 00:02:16.156 --> 00:02:18.251 my buddies and I put a sheet underneath him, 00:02:18.275 --> 00:02:22.060 and we carried him onto an elevator that stopped at each of the 15 floors. 00:02:22.616 --> 00:02:24.960 We put him in a car that took him to the hospital. 00:02:24.984 --> 00:02:26.746 He died on the way to the hospital. 00:02:26.770 --> 00:02:31.760 The Spanish cameraman José Couso, who was on the 14th floor and also hit -- 00:02:31.784 --> 00:02:35.094 because the shell had exploded between the two floors -- 00:02:35.118 --> 00:02:37.054 died on the operating table. 00:02:37.078 --> 00:02:39.475 As soon as the car left, I went back. 00:02:39.499 --> 00:02:41.832 There was that article I was supposed to write -- 00:02:41.856 --> 00:02:43.522 which I had to write. 00:02:44.117 --> 00:02:45.846 And so -- 00:02:45.870 --> 00:02:52.768 I returned to the hotel lobby with my arms covered in blood, 00:02:52.792 --> 00:02:55.332 when one of the hotel gofers stopped me 00:02:55.356 --> 00:02:59.203 and asked me to pay the tax I hadn't paid for 10 days. 00:02:59.227 --> 00:03:01.035 I told him to get lost. 00:03:01.059 --> 00:03:05.669 And I said to myself: "Clear your head, put it all aside. 00:03:07.097 --> 00:03:09.546 If you want to write, you need to put it all aside." 00:03:09.570 --> 00:03:10.785 And that's what I did. 00:03:10.809 --> 00:03:13.713 I went upstairs, wrote my article and sent it off. 00:03:15.077 --> 00:03:18.998 Later, aside from the feeling of having lost my colleagues, 00:03:19.895 --> 00:03:22.418 something else was bothering me. 00:03:22.442 --> 00:03:26.209 I kept seeing that shiny, pearly spot, 00:03:28.735 --> 00:03:31.123 and I couldn't understand what it meant. 00:03:31.731 --> 00:03:34.246 And then, the war was over. 00:03:36.572 --> 00:03:42.668 Later, I thought: "That's not possible. I can't just not know what happened." 00:03:42.692 --> 00:03:46.153 Because it wasn't the first time, and it didn't only happen to me. 00:03:46.177 --> 00:03:50.082 I have seen things like that happen to others 00:03:50.106 --> 00:03:52.774 in my 20 to 35 years of reporting. 00:03:52.798 --> 00:03:56.084 I have seen things that had an effect on me too. 00:03:56.108 --> 00:03:59.153 For example, there was this man I knew in Lebanon, 00:03:59.177 --> 00:04:02.083 a 25-year-old veteran who had been fighting for five years -- 00:04:02.107 --> 00:04:04.450 a real veteran -- who we would follow everywhere. 00:04:04.474 --> 00:04:07.960 He would crawl in the dark with confidence -- 00:04:08.731 --> 00:04:11.143 he was a great soldier, a true soldier -- 00:04:11.167 --> 00:04:14.524 so we would follow him, knowing that we would be safe with him. 00:04:14.548 --> 00:04:16.856 And one day, as I was told -- 00:04:16.880 --> 00:04:18.476 and I've seen him again since -- 00:04:18.500 --> 00:04:20.841 he was back in the camp, playing cards, 00:04:20.865 --> 00:04:22.746 when someone came in next door, 00:04:24.158 --> 00:04:26.294 and discharged their weapon. 00:04:26.318 --> 00:04:27.826 As the gun went off, 00:04:27.850 --> 00:04:33.405 that blast, that one shot, made him duck quickly under the table, 00:04:34.204 --> 00:04:35.418 like a child. 00:04:35.442 --> 00:04:37.333 He was shaking, panicking. 00:04:37.357 --> 00:04:42.165 And since then, he has never been able to get up and fight. 00:04:42.189 --> 00:04:44.881 He ended up working as a croupier 00:04:44.905 --> 00:04:47.027 in a Beirut casino where I later found him, 00:04:47.051 --> 00:04:49.920 because he couldn't sleep, so it was quite a suitable job. 00:04:50.378 --> 00:04:52.195 So I thought to myself, 00:04:52.957 --> 00:04:55.218 "What is this thing that can kill you 00:04:56.035 --> 00:05:00.592 without leaving any visible scars? 00:05:00.974 --> 00:05:02.957 How does that happen? 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:06.040 What is this unknown thing? 00:05:07.206 --> 00:05:11.573 It was too common to be coincidental. 00:05:11.597 --> 00:05:13.255 So I started to investigate -- 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:15.273 that's all I know how to do. 00:05:15.297 --> 00:05:17.140 I started to investigate 00:05:17.164 --> 00:05:19.711 by looking through books, 00:05:20.836 --> 00:05:23.178 reaching out to psychiatrists, 00:05:23.202 --> 00:05:25.764 going to museums, libraries, etc. 00:05:26.224 --> 00:05:30.323 Finally, I discovered that some people knew about this -- 00:05:30.950 --> 00:05:32.880 often military psychiatrists -- 00:05:32.904 --> 00:05:37.793 and that what we were dealing with was called trauma. 00:05:37.817 --> 00:05:42.643 Americans call it PTSD or traumatic neurosis. 00:05:42.667 --> 00:05:44.532 It was something 00:05:46.262 --> 00:05:47.658 that existed, 00:05:48.206 --> 00:05:50.388 but that we never spoke about. 00:05:52.206 --> 00:05:53.610 So, this trauma -- 00:05:54.452 --> 00:05:55.609 what is it? 00:05:55.633 --> 00:05:58.444 Well, it's an encounter with death. 00:05:59.126 --> 00:06:01.928 I don't know if you've ever had an experience with death -- 00:06:01.952 --> 00:06:03.835 I'm not talking about dead bodies, 00:06:03.859 --> 00:06:07.460 or someone's grandfather lying in a hospital bed, 00:06:07.484 --> 00:06:11.058 or someone who got hit by a car. 00:06:12.134 --> 00:06:16.594 I'm talking about facing the void of death. 00:06:17.688 --> 00:06:23.861 And that is something no one is supposed to see. 00:06:23.885 --> 00:06:25.727 People used to say, 00:06:25.751 --> 00:06:29.726 "Neither the sun, nor death can be looked at with a steady eye." 00:06:29.750 --> 00:06:33.984 A human being should not have to face the void of death. 00:06:34.008 --> 00:06:35.849 But when that happens, 00:06:37.801 --> 00:06:41.549 it can remain invisible for a while -- 00:06:41.573 --> 00:06:44.341 days, weeks, months, sometimes years. 00:06:44.365 --> 00:06:46.126 And then, at some point, 00:06:47.587 --> 00:06:48.873 it explodes, 00:06:48.897 --> 00:06:52.641 because it's something that has entered your brain -- 00:06:52.665 --> 00:06:57.316 a sort of window between an image and your mind -- 00:06:57.340 --> 00:06:59.665 that has penetrated your brain, 00:06:59.689 --> 00:07:04.279 staying there and taking up all the space inside. 00:07:05.541 --> 00:07:08.190 And there are people -- men, women, 00:07:08.858 --> 00:07:11.496 who suddenly no longer sleep. 00:07:12.376 --> 00:07:14.721 And they experience horrible anxiety attacks -- 00:07:14.745 --> 00:07:17.775 panic attacks, not just minor fears. 00:07:17.799 --> 00:07:20.105 They suddenly don't want to sleep, 00:07:20.129 --> 00:07:24.663 because when they do, they have the same nightmare every night. 00:07:24.687 --> 00:07:26.607 They see the same image every night. 00:07:26.631 --> 00:07:28.258 What type of image? 00:07:28.282 --> 00:07:31.085 For example, a soldier who enters a building 00:07:31.109 --> 00:07:33.943 and comes face to face with another soldier aiming at him. 00:07:33.967 --> 00:07:36.530 He looks at the gun, straight down the barrel. 00:07:36.554 --> 00:07:40.138 And this barrel suddenly becomes enormous, deformed. 00:07:40.162 --> 00:07:42.916 It becomes fluffy, swallowing everything. 00:07:42.940 --> 00:07:44.540 And he says -- 00:07:46.376 --> 00:07:48.718 later he will say, "I saw death. 00:07:48.742 --> 00:07:51.243 I saw myself dead, therefore I'm dead." 00:07:51.267 --> 00:07:55.124 And from then on, he knows he is dead. 00:07:55.148 --> 00:08:00.033 It is not a perception -- he is convinced that he is dead. 00:08:00.057 --> 00:08:03.589 In reality, someone came in, the guy left or didn't shoot, whatever, 00:08:03.613 --> 00:08:05.260 and he didn't actually get shot -- 00:08:05.284 --> 00:08:06.992 but to him, he died in that moment. 00:08:07.016 --> 00:08:09.123 Or it can be the smell of a mass grave -- 00:08:09.147 --> 00:08:10.952 I saw a lot of that in Rwanda. 00:08:11.510 --> 00:08:14.502 It can be the voice of a friend calling, 00:08:15.113 --> 00:08:18.873 and they're being slaughtered and there's nothing you can do. 00:08:18.897 --> 00:08:20.103 You hear that voice, 00:08:20.127 --> 00:08:25.633 and you wake up every night -- for weeks, months -- 00:08:25.657 --> 00:08:28.414 in a trance-like state, anxious and terrified, 00:08:28.438 --> 00:08:29.793 like a child. 00:08:29.817 --> 00:08:31.396 I have seen men cry -- 00:08:32.652 --> 00:08:34.015 just like children -- 00:08:34.442 --> 00:08:36.138 from seeing the same image. 00:08:36.162 --> 00:08:40.928 So having that image of horror in your brain, 00:08:42.659 --> 00:08:44.497 seeing the void of death -- 00:08:44.521 --> 00:08:48.226 also called a "nanologo," an image that is hiding something -- 00:08:48.250 --> 00:08:49.504 will completely take over. 00:08:49.528 --> 00:08:51.835 You cannot do anything, anything at all. 00:08:51.859 --> 00:08:53.153 You cannot work anymore, 00:08:53.177 --> 00:08:54.460 you cannot love anymore. 00:08:54.484 --> 00:08:56.411 You go home and don't recognize anyone. 00:08:56.435 --> 00:08:58.442 You don't even recognize yourself. 00:09:01.181 --> 00:09:04.705 You hide and don't leave the house, you lock yourself in, you become ill. 00:09:04.729 --> 00:09:09.143 I know people who placed small cans outside their house with coins inside, 00:09:09.167 --> 00:09:11.033 in case someone tried to get in. 00:09:11.057 --> 00:09:13.929 All of a sudden, you feel like you want to die or kill 00:09:13.953 --> 00:09:15.501 or hide or run away. 00:09:15.525 --> 00:09:17.676 You want to be loved, but you hate everyone. 00:09:17.700 --> 00:09:21.613 It's a feeling that seizes you entirely 00:09:22.644 --> 00:09:24.375 day in and day out, 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:28.303 and you suffer tremendously. 00:09:29.351 --> 00:09:30.828 And no one understands. 00:09:30.852 --> 00:09:34.620 They say, "There's nothing wrong with you. You seem fine, you have no injuries. 00:09:34.644 --> 00:09:37.138 You went to war, came back; you're fine." 00:09:38.231 --> 00:09:40.113 These people suffer tremendously. 00:09:40.137 --> 00:09:41.716 Some commit suicide. 00:09:42.035 --> 00:09:44.749 After all, suicide is like updating your daily planner -- 00:09:44.773 --> 00:09:47.084 I'm already dead, I might as well commit suicide. 00:09:47.108 --> 00:09:49.043 Plus, there is no more pain. 00:09:49.067 --> 00:09:53.097 Some commit suicide, others end up under the bridge, drinking. 00:09:53.121 --> 00:09:57.493 Everyone remembers that grandfather or uncle or neighbor 00:09:57.517 --> 00:09:59.487 who used to drink, never said a word, 00:09:59.511 --> 00:10:01.280 always in a bad mood, beat his wife 00:10:01.304 --> 00:10:05.433 and who would end up either sinking into alcoholism or dying. 00:10:05.457 --> 00:10:08.237 And why do we not talk about this? 00:10:08.261 --> 00:10:11.380 We don't talk about it because it's taboo. 00:10:12.157 --> 00:10:15.924 It's not like we don't have the words to express the void of death. 00:10:15.948 --> 00:10:17.716 But others don't want hear it. 00:10:17.740 --> 00:10:19.854 The first time I returned from an assignment, 00:10:19.878 --> 00:10:21.404 They said, "Oh! He's back." 00:10:21.428 --> 00:10:24.524 There was a fancy dinner -- white tablecloth, candles, guests. 00:10:24.548 --> 00:10:25.740 "Tell us everything!" 00:10:25.764 --> 00:10:27.087 Which I did. 00:10:28.075 --> 00:10:30.559 After 20 minutes, people were giving me dirty looks, 00:10:30.583 --> 00:10:32.588 the hostess had her nose in the ashtray. 00:10:32.612 --> 00:10:35.583 It was horrible and I realized I ruined the whole evening. 00:10:35.607 --> 00:10:37.516 So I don't talk about it anymore. 00:10:37.540 --> 00:10:39.081 We're just not ready to listen. 00:10:39.105 --> 00:10:40.833 People say outright: "Please, stop." 00:10:40.857 --> 00:10:42.954 Is that a rare occurrence? 00:10:42.978 --> 00:10:45.380 No, it's extremely common. 00:10:45.404 --> 00:10:47.557 One third of the soldiers who died in Iraq -- 00:10:47.581 --> 00:10:50.103 well, not "died," let me re-phrase that -- 00:10:50.127 --> 00:10:53.267 one third of the US soldiers who went to Iraq 00:10:53.291 --> 00:10:54.929 suffer from PTSD. 00:10:54.953 --> 00:11:00.874 In 1939, there were still 200,000 soldiers from the First World War 00:11:00.898 --> 00:11:04.273 that were being treated in British psychiatric hospitals. 00:11:05.066 --> 00:11:07.500 In Vietnam, 54,000 people died -- 00:11:07.524 --> 00:11:08.867 Americans. 00:11:08.891 --> 00:11:13.064 In 1987, the US government identified 102,000 -- 00:11:13.088 --> 00:11:14.302 twice as many -- 00:11:14.326 --> 00:11:16.950 102,000 veterans who died from committing suicide. 00:11:16.974 --> 00:11:19.790 Twice as many deaths by suicide than by combat in Vietnam. 00:11:19.814 --> 00:11:22.972 So you see, this relates to everything, 00:11:22.996 --> 00:11:25.335 not just modern warfare, but also ancient wars -- 00:11:25.359 --> 00:11:28.358 you can read about it, the evidence is there. 00:11:28.382 --> 00:11:30.627 So why do we not talk about it? 00:11:30.651 --> 00:11:33.096 Why have we not talked about it? 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:37.588 The problem is that if you don't talk about it, 00:11:38.642 --> 00:11:40.237 you're heading for disaster. 00:11:41.528 --> 00:11:44.343 The only way to heal -- 00:11:44.367 --> 00:11:47.565 and the good news here is that this is treatable -- 00:11:48.829 --> 00:11:50.900 think Munch's The Scream, Goya, etc. -- 00:11:50.924 --> 00:11:52.209 it's indeed treatable. 00:11:52.233 --> 00:11:56.793 The only way to heal from this trauma, 00:11:56.817 --> 00:12:01.873 from this encounter with death that overwhelms, petrifies and kills you 00:12:01.897 --> 00:12:05.897 is to find a way to express it. 00:12:06.540 --> 00:12:08.279 People used to say, 00:12:08.303 --> 00:12:11.870 "Language is the only thing that holds all of us together." 00:12:11.894 --> 00:12:14.235 Without language, we're nothing. 00:12:14.259 --> 00:12:16.876 It's the thing that makes us human. 00:12:16.900 --> 00:12:18.877 In the face of such a horrible image -- 00:12:18.901 --> 00:12:24.427 a wordless image of oblivion that obsesses us -- 00:12:24.451 --> 00:12:26.910 the only way to cope with it 00:12:28.109 --> 00:12:30.210 is to put human words to it. 00:12:30.234 --> 00:12:32.660 Because these people feel excluded from humanity. 00:12:32.684 --> 00:12:35.890 No one wants to see them anymore and they don't want to see anyone. 00:12:35.914 --> 00:12:38.335 They feel dirty, defiled, ashamed. 00:12:38.359 --> 00:12:41.603 Someone said, "Doctor, I don't use the subway anymore 00:12:41.627 --> 00:12:44.841 because I'm afraid people will see the horror in my eyes." 00:12:44.865 --> 00:12:47.731 Another guy thought he had a terrible skin disease 00:12:47.755 --> 00:12:51.592 and spent six months with dermatologists, going from doctor to doctor. 00:12:51.616 --> 00:12:54.155 And then one day, they sent him to a psychiatrist. 00:12:54.179 --> 00:12:56.584 During his second session, he told the psychiatrist 00:12:56.608 --> 00:12:58.938 he had a terrible skin disease from head to toe. 00:12:58.962 --> 00:13:01.881 The psychiatrist asked, "Why are you in this state?" 00:13:01.905 --> 00:13:05.231 And the man said, "Well, because I'm dead, so I must be rotting away." 00:13:05.255 --> 00:13:09.668 So you see this is something that has a profound effect on people. 00:13:09.692 --> 00:13:12.101 In order to heal, we need to talk about it. 00:13:12.125 --> 00:13:16.069 The horror needs to be put into words -- 00:13:16.093 --> 00:13:20.276 human words, so we can organize it and talk about it again. 00:13:20.300 --> 00:13:24.442 We have to look death in the face. 00:13:25.061 --> 00:13:30.156 And if we can do that, if we can talk about these things, 00:13:30.180 --> 00:13:33.605 then step by step, by working it out verbally, 00:13:33.629 --> 00:13:36.557 we can reclaim our place in humanity. 00:13:37.549 --> 00:13:38.813 And it is important. 00:13:38.837 --> 00:13:40.525 Silence kills us. 00:13:41.789 --> 00:13:43.211 So what does this mean? 00:13:43.235 --> 00:13:45.251 It means that after a trauma, 00:13:45.275 --> 00:13:48.910 without question, we lose our "unbearable lightness of being," 00:13:48.934 --> 00:13:51.688 that sense of immortality that keeps us here -- 00:13:51.712 --> 00:13:55.624 meaning, if we're here, we almost feel like we're immortal, which we're not, 00:13:55.648 --> 00:13:58.991 but if we didn't believe that, we'd say, "What's the point of it all?" 00:13:59.015 --> 00:14:01.805 But trauma survivors have lost that feeling of immortality. 00:14:01.829 --> 00:14:03.224 They've lost their lightness. 00:14:03.248 --> 00:14:04.987 But they have found something else. 00:14:05.011 --> 00:14:08.271 So this means that if we manage to look death in the face, 00:14:09.546 --> 00:14:14.448 and actually confront it, rather than keep quiet and hide, 00:14:14.472 --> 00:14:16.951 like some of the men or women I know did, 00:14:16.975 --> 00:14:23.629 such as Michael from Rwanda, Carole from Iraq, Philippe from the Congo 00:14:23.653 --> 00:14:24.879 and other people I know, 00:14:24.903 --> 00:14:27.001 like Sorj Chalandon, now a great writer, 00:14:27.025 --> 00:14:29.316 who gave up field assignments after a trauma. 00:14:29.340 --> 00:14:31.558 Five friends of mine committed suicide, 00:14:31.582 --> 00:14:34.158 they're the ones who did not survive the trauma. 00:14:34.182 --> 00:14:39.728 So if we can look death in the face, 00:14:39.752 --> 00:14:42.530 if we, mortal humans, human mortals, 00:14:42.554 --> 00:14:45.395 understand that we are human and mortal, mortal and human, 00:14:45.419 --> 00:14:51.666 if we can confront death and identify it once again 00:14:51.690 --> 00:14:54.753 as the most mysterious place of all mysterious places, 00:14:55.570 --> 00:14:58.126 since no one has ever seen it -- 00:14:58.150 --> 00:15:00.813 if we can give it back this meaning, 00:15:00.837 --> 00:15:03.678 yes, we may die, 00:15:05.686 --> 00:15:07.281 survive 00:15:08.011 --> 00:15:09.438 and come back to life, 00:15:09.462 --> 00:15:12.555 but we'll come back stronger than before. 00:15:12.579 --> 00:15:13.889 Much stronger. 00:15:13.913 --> 00:15:15.067 Thank you. 00:15:15.091 --> 00:15:16.858 (Applause)