1 00:00:08,309 --> 00:00:12,509 Cranbrook Academy of Art is where I did my graduate studies. 2 00:00:13,299 --> 00:00:16,430 It was a bit shocking, I think, at the beginning, 3 00:00:16,430 --> 00:00:19,550 because I was the only minority there. 4 00:00:19,919 --> 00:00:21,759 This is in 1988. 5 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,780 I just considered myself another artist 6 00:00:25,780 --> 00:00:28,320 out there amongst my peers. 7 00:00:28,970 --> 00:00:31,449 And I think it was difficult because it was the first time 8 00:00:31,449 --> 00:00:35,849 that I was confronted with my identity as a black male. 9 00:00:39,610 --> 00:00:43,060 My mother told me when I was, like, eight years old, 10 00:00:43,060 --> 00:00:46,470 the complexity of what I would have to deal with. 11 00:00:46,470 --> 00:00:51,230 So knowing made me think, "I've got to build a thick skin." 12 00:00:51,230 --> 00:00:55,450 "I've got to be able to operate in a world…" [LAUGHS] 13 00:00:55,450 --> 00:00:58,170 "...that could work against me as opposed to for me." 14 00:00:59,140 --> 00:01:00,680 What do I do with that? 15 00:01:04,960 --> 00:01:06,820 I have been racially profiled. 16 00:01:08,540 --> 00:01:11,140 I'm walking home with my portfolio from teaching. 17 00:01:11,140 --> 00:01:15,850 I am pulled...surrounded by undercover cops saying, 18 00:01:15,850 --> 00:01:17,100 "Lie down on the floor"-- 19 00:01:17,100 --> 00:01:19,880 because the convenience store was robbed down the street. 20 00:01:20,300 --> 00:01:22,540 That has been my reality. 21 00:01:25,580 --> 00:01:27,440 Get it together up here. 22 00:01:27,740 --> 00:01:30,620 Psychologically, I have to really get it together. 23 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,280 And I just have to get quiet-- 24 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,420 to put it in perspective 25 00:01:35,429 --> 00:01:37,009 and to, sort of, 26 00:01:37,009 --> 00:01:40,549 not sort of lash out into rage. 27 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,420 And if I do, lashing out for me is creating this. 28 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:49,999 All of that becomes the impulse to create. 29 00:01:55,500 --> 00:02:00,200 I don't ever see the "Soundsuits" as fun. 30 00:02:01,500 --> 00:02:04,140 They really are coming from a very dark place. 31 00:02:07,780 --> 00:02:12,820 The "Soundsuits" hide gender, race, class. 32 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,200 And they force you to look at the work without judgment. 33 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,200 You know, we tend to want to categorize everything. 34 00:02:22,209 --> 00:02:25,150 We tend to want to find its place. 35 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,160 How do we, sort of, be one on one with something that is unfamiliar?