WEBVTT 00:00:12.341 --> 00:00:14.833 Like most journalists, I'm an idealist. 00:00:14.857 --> 00:00:19.158 I love unearthing good stories, especially untold stories. 00:00:20.126 --> 00:00:22.559 I just didn't think that in 2011, 00:00:22.583 --> 00:00:24.744 women would still be in that category. 00:00:25.538 --> 00:00:29.515 I'm the President of the Journalism and Women Symposium -- JAWS. 00:00:29.539 --> 00:00:30.691 That's Sharky. 00:00:30.715 --> 00:00:32.206 (Laughter) 00:00:32.229 --> 00:00:35.034 I joined 10 years ago because I wanted female role models, 00:00:35.058 --> 00:00:39.257 and I was frustrated by the lagging status of women in our profession 00:00:39.281 --> 00:00:41.926 and what that meant for our image in the media. 00:00:43.086 --> 00:00:45.189 We make up half the population of the world, 00:00:45.213 --> 00:00:47.800 but we're just 24 percent of the news subjects 00:00:47.824 --> 00:00:49.324 quoted in news stories. 00:00:49.752 --> 00:00:53.065 And we're just 20 percent of the experts quoted in stories. 00:00:53.461 --> 00:00:55.533 And now, with today's technology, 00:00:55.557 --> 00:00:58.739 it's possible to remove women from the picture completely. 00:00:59.588 --> 00:01:03.460 This is a picture of President Barack Obama and his advisors, 00:01:03.484 --> 00:01:05.572 tracking the killing of Osama bin Laden. 00:01:05.596 --> 00:01:07.730 You can see Hillary Clinton on the right. 00:01:08.261 --> 00:01:09.581 Let's see how the photo ran 00:01:09.605 --> 00:01:12.453 in an Orthodox Jewish newspaper based in Brooklyn. 00:01:13.327 --> 00:01:15.040 Hillary's completely gone. 00:01:15.064 --> 00:01:17.912 (Laughter) 00:01:17.936 --> 00:01:20.985 The paper apologized, but said it never runs photos of women; 00:01:21.009 --> 00:01:22.941 they might be sexually provocative. 00:01:22.965 --> 00:01:25.075 (Laughter) 00:01:25.099 --> 00:01:27.147 This is an extreme case, yes. 00:01:27.171 --> 00:01:28.338 But the fact is, 00:01:28.362 --> 00:01:32.481 women are only 19 percent of the sources in stories on politics, 00:01:32.505 --> 00:01:35.517 and only 20 percent in stories on the economy. 00:01:37.210 --> 00:01:39.091 The news continues to give us a picture 00:01:39.115 --> 00:01:40.727 where men outnumber women 00:01:40.751 --> 00:01:43.465 in nearly all occupational categories, except two: 00:01:43.489 --> 00:01:45.977 students and homemakers. 00:01:46.001 --> 00:01:47.258 (Laughter) 00:01:47.282 --> 00:01:50.311 So we all get a very distorted picture of reality. 00:01:51.414 --> 00:01:54.520 The problem is, of course, there aren't enough women in newsrooms. 00:01:54.544 --> 00:01:58.449 They report at just 37 percent of stories in print, TV and radio. 00:01:59.006 --> 00:02:02.086 Even in stories on gender-based violence, 00:02:02.110 --> 00:02:05.713 men get an overwhelming majority of print space and airtime. 00:02:05.737 --> 00:02:06.888 Case in point: 00:02:07.999 --> 00:02:10.902 This March, the New York Times ran a story by James McKinley 00:02:10.926 --> 00:02:12.581 about a gang rape of a young girl, 00:02:12.605 --> 00:02:14.943 11 years old, in a small Texas town. 00:02:15.515 --> 00:02:18.570 McKinley writes that the community is wondering, 00:02:18.594 --> 00:02:21.416 "How could their boys have been drawn into this?" 00:02:22.136 --> 00:02:23.540 "Drawn into this" -- 00:02:23.564 --> 00:02:26.644 like they were seduced into committing an act of violence. 00:02:26.668 --> 00:02:28.653 And the first person he quotes says, 00:02:28.677 --> 00:02:31.750 "These boys will have to live with this the rest of their lives." 00:02:31.774 --> 00:02:34.016 (Groans, laughter) 00:02:34.636 --> 00:02:37.620 You don't hear much about the 11-year-old victim, 00:02:37.644 --> 00:02:41.061 except that she wore clothes that were a little old for her 00:02:41.085 --> 00:02:42.497 and she wore makeup. 00:02:43.223 --> 00:02:45.918 The Times was deluged with criticism. 00:02:46.370 --> 00:02:47.949 Initially, it defended itself, 00:02:47.973 --> 00:02:49.694 and said, "These aren't our views. 00:02:49.718 --> 00:02:51.646 This is what we found in our reporting." 00:02:51.670 --> 00:02:53.952 Now, here's a secret you probably know already: 00:02:54.492 --> 00:02:56.090 Your stories are constructed. 00:02:56.114 --> 00:02:59.135 As reporters, we research, we interview. 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:02.067 We try to give a good picture of reality. 00:03:02.091 --> 00:03:04.836 We also have our own unconscious biases. 00:03:04.860 --> 00:03:08.383 But The Times makes it sound like anyone would have reported this story 00:03:08.407 --> 00:03:09.558 the same way. 00:03:10.175 --> 00:03:11.623 I disagree with that. 00:03:12.083 --> 00:03:13.835 So three weeks later, 00:03:13.859 --> 00:03:15.386 The Times revisits the story. 00:03:15.410 --> 00:03:19.159 This time, it adds another byline to it with McKinley's: 00:03:19.183 --> 00:03:20.659 Erica Goode. 00:03:20.683 --> 00:03:23.585 What emerges is a truly sad, horrific tale 00:03:23.609 --> 00:03:26.568 of a young girl and her family trapped in poverty. 00:03:26.592 --> 00:03:29.267 She was raped numerous times by many men. 00:03:29.703 --> 00:03:32.093 She had been a bright, easygoing girl. 00:03:32.117 --> 00:03:34.679 She was maturing quickly, physically, 00:03:34.703 --> 00:03:37.695 but her bed was still covered with stuffed animals. 00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:39.282 It's a very different picture. 00:03:39.640 --> 00:03:43.327 Perhaps the addition of Ms. Goode is what made this story more complete. 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:48.070 The Global Media Monitoring Project has found that stories by female reporters 00:03:48.094 --> 00:03:51.863 are more likely to challenge stereotypes than those by male reporters. 00:03:51.887 --> 00:03:53.260 At KUNM here in Albuquerque, 00:03:53.284 --> 00:03:55.419 Elaine Baumgartel did some graduate research 00:03:55.443 --> 00:03:57.712 on the coverage of violence against women. 00:03:57.736 --> 00:04:01.109 What she found was many of these stories tend to blame victims 00:04:01.133 --> 00:04:02.652 and devalue their lives. 00:04:02.676 --> 00:04:05.883 They tend to sensationalize, and they lack context. 00:04:06.423 --> 00:04:07.638 So for her graduate work, 00:04:07.662 --> 00:04:10.559 she did a three-part series on the murder of 11 women, 00:04:10.583 --> 00:04:13.159 found buried on Albuquerque's West Mesa. 00:04:13.183 --> 00:04:16.547 She tried to challenge those patterns and stereotypes in her work 00:04:16.571 --> 00:04:19.411 and she tried to show the challenges that journalists face 00:04:19.435 --> 00:04:22.956 from external sources, their own internal biases 00:04:22.980 --> 00:04:24.279 and cultural norms. 00:04:24.652 --> 00:04:27.375 And she worked with an editor at National Public Radio 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:29.932 to try to get a story aired nationally. 00:04:29.956 --> 00:04:33.901 She's not sure that would have happened if the editor had not been a female. 00:04:34.472 --> 00:04:35.671 Stories in the news 00:04:35.695 --> 00:04:39.932 are more than twice as likely to present women as victims than men, 00:04:39.956 --> 00:04:43.805 and women are more likely to be defined by their body parts. 00:04:44.562 --> 00:04:46.750 Wired magazine, November 2010. 00:04:47.440 --> 00:04:50.550 Yes, the issue was about breast-tissue engineering. 00:04:51.769 --> 00:04:54.443 Now I know you're all distracted, so I'll take that off. 00:04:54.467 --> 00:04:55.468 (Laughter) 00:04:55.492 --> 00:04:56.646 Eyes up here. 00:04:56.670 --> 00:04:59.922 (Laughter) 00:04:59.946 --> 00:05:01.097 So -- 00:05:01.121 --> 00:05:05.299 (Applause) 00:05:05.323 --> 00:05:06.483 Here's the thing: 00:05:06.507 --> 00:05:09.064 Wired almost never puts women on its cover. 00:05:09.414 --> 00:05:11.391 Oh, there have been some gimmicky ones -- 00:05:11.415 --> 00:05:13.017 Pam from "The Office," 00:05:13.041 --> 00:05:14.950 manga girls, 00:05:14.974 --> 00:05:17.595 a voluptuous model covered in synthetic diamonds. 00:05:18.863 --> 00:05:22.431 Texas State University professor Cindy Royal wondered in her blog 00:05:22.455 --> 00:05:26.446 how are young women like her students supposed to feel about their roles 00:05:26.470 --> 00:05:27.938 in technology, reading Wired. 00:05:27.962 --> 00:05:31.215 Chris Anderson, the editor of Wired, defended his choice 00:05:31.239 --> 00:05:33.628 and said there aren't enough women, prominent women 00:05:33.652 --> 00:05:36.775 in technology to sell a cover, to sell an issue. 00:05:37.581 --> 00:05:38.740 Part of that is true, 00:05:38.764 --> 00:05:41.312 there aren't as many prominent women in technology. 00:05:41.336 --> 00:05:43.334 Here's my problem with that argument: 00:05:43.850 --> 00:05:46.429 Media tells us every day what's important, 00:05:46.453 --> 00:05:48.956 by the stories they choose and where they place them; 00:05:48.980 --> 00:05:50.445 it's called agenda setting. 00:05:51.433 --> 00:05:54.168 How many people knew the founders of Facebook and Google 00:05:54.192 --> 00:05:56.360 before their faces were on a magazine cover? 00:05:56.384 --> 00:05:58.846 Putting them there made them more recognizable. 00:05:59.265 --> 00:06:02.061 Now, Fast Company Magazine embraces that idea. 00:06:02.085 --> 00:06:05.010 This is its cover from November 15, 2010. 00:06:05.371 --> 00:06:09.445 The issue is about the most prominent and influential women in technology. 00:06:09.827 --> 00:06:12.366 Editor Robert Safian told the Poynter Institute, 00:06:12.390 --> 00:06:15.237 "Silicon Valley is very white and very male. 00:06:15.261 --> 00:06:17.555 But that's not what Fast Company thinks 00:06:17.579 --> 00:06:19.943 the business world will look like in the future, 00:06:19.967 --> 00:06:23.643 so it tries to give a picture of where the globalized world is moving." 00:06:24.354 --> 00:06:27.020 By the way, apparently, Wired took all this to heart. 00:06:27.459 --> 00:06:29.008 This was its issue in April. 00:06:29.032 --> 00:06:30.910 (Laughter) 00:06:30.934 --> 00:06:33.751 That's Limor Fried, the founder of Adafruit Industries, 00:06:33.775 --> 00:06:35.449 in the Rosie the Riveter pose. 00:06:36.704 --> 00:06:40.174 It would help to have more women in positions of leadership in media. 00:06:40.198 --> 00:06:41.435 A recent global survey 00:06:41.459 --> 00:06:44.325 found that 73 percent of the top media-management jobs 00:06:44.349 --> 00:06:45.993 are still held by men. 00:06:46.335 --> 00:06:48.968 But this is also about something far more complex: 00:06:48.992 --> 00:06:51.960 our own unconscious biases and blind spots. 00:06:52.817 --> 00:06:54.441 Shankar Vedantam is the author 00:06:54.465 --> 00:06:57.513 of "The Hidden Brain: How Our Unconscious Minds Elect Presidents, 00:06:57.537 --> 00:07:00.199 Control Markets, Wage Wars, and Save Our Lives." 00:07:00.718 --> 00:07:03.845 He told the former ombudsman at National Public Radio, 00:07:03.869 --> 00:07:07.606 who was doing a report on how women fare in NPR coverage, 00:07:07.630 --> 00:07:10.720 unconscious bias flows throughout most of our lives. 00:07:10.744 --> 00:07:13.712 It's really difficult to disentangle those strands. 00:07:14.311 --> 00:07:15.920 But he did have one suggestion. 00:07:16.301 --> 00:07:19.092 He used to work for two editors 00:07:19.116 --> 00:07:22.487 who said every story had to have at least one female source. 00:07:23.099 --> 00:07:24.592 He balked at first, 00:07:24.616 --> 00:07:27.568 but said he eventually followed the directive happily, 00:07:27.592 --> 00:07:29.033 because his stories got better 00:07:29.057 --> 00:07:30.533 and his job got easier. 00:07:31.014 --> 00:07:33.612 Now, I don't know if one of the editors was a woman, 00:07:33.636 --> 00:07:36.013 but that can make the biggest difference. 00:07:36.037 --> 00:07:40.003 The Dallas Morning News won a Pulitzer Prize in 1994 00:07:40.027 --> 00:07:42.630 for a series it did on women around the world, 00:07:42.654 --> 00:07:44.361 but one of the reporters told me 00:07:44.385 --> 00:07:46.734 she's convinced it never would have happened 00:07:46.758 --> 00:07:50.169 if they had not had a female assistant foreign editor, 00:07:50.193 --> 00:07:52.677 and they would not have gotten some of those stories 00:07:52.701 --> 00:07:55.192 without female reporters and editors on the ground, 00:07:55.216 --> 00:07:58.118 particularly one on female genital mutilation -- 00:07:58.142 --> 00:08:00.807 men would just not be allowed into those situations. 00:08:01.220 --> 00:08:03.454 This is an important point to consider, 00:08:03.478 --> 00:08:06.734 because much of our foreign policy now revolves around countries 00:08:06.758 --> 00:08:09.179 where the treatment of women is an issue, 00:08:09.203 --> 00:08:10.568 such as Afghanistan. 00:08:12.578 --> 00:08:16.702 What we're told in terms of arguments against leaving this country 00:08:16.726 --> 00:08:19.590 is that the fate of the women is primary. 00:08:20.701 --> 00:08:24.415 Now, I'm sure a male reporter in Kabul can find women to interview. 00:08:24.835 --> 00:08:28.607 Not so sure about rural, traditional areas, 00:08:28.631 --> 00:08:31.310 where I'm guessing women can't talk to strange men. 00:08:31.858 --> 00:08:35.443 It's important to keep talking about this, in light of Lara Logan. 00:08:35.881 --> 00:08:38.033 She was the CBS News correspondent 00:08:38.057 --> 00:08:40.970 who was brutally sexually assaulted in Egypt's Tahrir Square, 00:08:40.994 --> 00:08:42.760 right after this photo was taken. 00:08:43.133 --> 00:08:45.902 Almost immediately, pundits weighed in, 00:08:45.926 --> 00:08:49.165 blaming her and saying things like, 00:08:49.189 --> 00:08:52.589 "You know, maybe women shouldn't be sent to cover those stories." 00:08:52.613 --> 00:08:55.850 I never heard anyone say this about Anderson Cooper and his crew, 00:08:55.874 --> 00:08:58.482 who were attacked covering the same story. 00:08:59.387 --> 00:09:01.438 One way to get more women into leadership 00:09:01.462 --> 00:09:03.239 is to have other women mentor them. 00:09:03.640 --> 00:09:07.233 One of my board members is an editor at a major global media company, 00:09:07.257 --> 00:09:09.893 but she never thought about this as a career path, 00:09:09.917 --> 00:09:12.425 until she met female role models at JAWS. 00:09:13.425 --> 00:09:15.925 But this is not just a job for super-journalists 00:09:15.949 --> 00:09:17.128 or my organization. 00:09:17.152 --> 00:09:19.782 You all have a stake in a strong, vibrant media. 00:09:20.743 --> 00:09:22.076 Analyze your news. 00:09:22.474 --> 00:09:25.031 And speak up when there are gaps missing in coverage, 00:09:25.055 --> 00:09:27.006 like people at The New York Times did. 00:09:27.030 --> 00:09:30.037 Suggest female sources to reporters and editors. 00:09:30.410 --> 00:09:33.899 Remember -- a complete picture of reality may depend upon it. 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:36.195 And I'll leave you with a video clip 00:09:36.219 --> 00:09:39.749 that I first saw in [1987] when I was a student in London. 00:09:40.137 --> 00:09:41.709 It's for The Guardian newspaper. 00:09:41.733 --> 00:09:45.082 It's actually long before I ever thought about becoming a journalist, 00:09:45.106 --> 00:09:48.288 but I was very interested in how we learn to perceive our world. 00:09:49.823 --> 00:09:54.156 Narrator: An event seen from one point of view gives one impression. 00:09:59.579 --> 00:10:01.331 Seen from another point of view, 00:10:01.355 --> 00:10:03.720 it gives quite a different impression. 00:10:05.982 --> 00:10:08.360 But it's only when you get the whole picture, 00:10:08.384 --> 00:10:11.050 you can fully understand what's going on. 00:10:14.809 --> 00:10:16.801 [The Guardian] 00:10:16.825 --> 00:10:18.747 Megan Kamerick: I think you'll all agree 00:10:18.771 --> 00:10:21.531 that we'd be better off if we all had the whole picture.