1 00:00:00,264 --> 00:00:02,847 (gentle music) 2 00:00:07,246 --> 00:00:09,913 (dynamic music) 3 00:00:11,601 --> 00:00:13,470 (train screeching) 4 00:00:13,470 --> 00:00:15,240 - I'm not really an artist. 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,833 I never studied at art school. 6 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:20,043 I call myself a private ear. 7 00:00:21,930 --> 00:00:23,760 And I've dedicated a lot of work 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,043 to thinking about a politics of listening. 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,210 That's quite different to politics of speech, 10 00:00:30,210 --> 00:00:31,960 where everyone should have a voice. 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,240 Because where and when those voices are heard 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,555 is just as important. 13 00:00:37,555 --> 00:00:40,500 (dynamic music continues) 14 00:00:40,500 --> 00:00:43,410 Not truly understanding how that voice is heard, 15 00:00:43,410 --> 00:00:45,513 you miss literally half the story. 16 00:00:49,050 --> 00:00:51,240 Part of the work has been to try to sort of define 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,341 where those limits are, those limits of listening. 18 00:00:53,341 --> 00:00:56,841 (dynamic music continues) 19 00:01:05,479 --> 00:01:07,230 When I began an acoustic investigation 20 00:01:07,230 --> 00:01:10,647 into a prison that was modeled on this GDR archetype. 21 00:01:12,108 --> 00:01:13,830 The Mercedes-Benz of prisons in Syria, 22 00:01:13,830 --> 00:01:17,413 the one I investigated, is called Saydnaya. 23 00:01:39,934 --> 00:01:42,360 These films and performances are a proposal 24 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,270 to listen to people in ways in which I think is adequate 25 00:01:45,270 --> 00:01:47,520 for the kind of political claim that I'm making. 26 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:48,950 This listening tower has a... 27 00:01:48,950 --> 00:01:51,090 In a documentary, or in the news, 28 00:01:51,090 --> 00:01:52,890 there's really strict conventions 29 00:01:52,890 --> 00:01:56,100 about the way we think we should listen to people. 30 00:01:56,100 --> 00:01:57,240 In the space of the museum, 31 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,040 you have this chance to experiment 32 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,614 with the ways in which you can actually present a story. 33 00:02:02,614 --> 00:02:04,781 (banging) 34 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,460 Walled Unwalled is a set of reflections 35 00:02:08,460 --> 00:02:10,620 from having conducted an investigation 36 00:02:10,620 --> 00:02:13,440 into the Syrian regime prison for Amnesty International 37 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,861 working with Forensic Architecture. 38 00:02:15,861 --> 00:02:18,810 (crowd shouting) 39 00:02:18,810 --> 00:02:22,170 - [Narrator] Since 2011, tens of thousands of people 40 00:02:22,170 --> 00:02:24,840 have disappeared into a vast network of prisons 41 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,880 run by the Syrian government. 42 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,863 Many have been taken to Saydnaya. 43 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,790 Amnesty International and Forensic Architecture 44 00:02:32,790 --> 00:02:36,690 traveled to Turkey to meet a group of Saydnaya survivors. 45 00:02:36,690 --> 00:02:39,360 We used architectural and acoustic modeling 46 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,220 to reconstruct the prison 47 00:02:41,220 --> 00:02:44,160 and their experiences of detention. 48 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,530 Because the prisoners were held in darkness, 49 00:02:46,530 --> 00:02:49,983 their memories depend on an acute experience of sound. 50 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,820 - I was tasked to lead the sound component 51 00:02:53,820 --> 00:02:56,700 of that investigation, and to try and solicit 52 00:02:56,700 --> 00:02:58,080 as much information as we could 53 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,570 about what was happening inside there. 54 00:03:00,570 --> 00:03:02,910 And yet, all of the witnesses insisted to me 55 00:03:02,910 --> 00:03:04,320 that the walls of their cells 56 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,390 shook from the beatings that took place 57 00:03:06,390 --> 00:03:10,140 in distant and unlocatable areas of the prison. 58 00:03:10,140 --> 00:03:12,030 Later I understood why. 59 00:03:12,030 --> 00:03:13,290 The shape of the building, 60 00:03:13,290 --> 00:03:15,120 the dimensions of the corridors, 61 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,950 meant that sounds made in the cells 62 00:03:16,950 --> 00:03:18,903 are reflected towards a central tower. 63 00:03:20,610 --> 00:03:22,890 For them to kind of claw back knowledge 64 00:03:22,890 --> 00:03:24,960 in the face of sensory deprivation 65 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,817 was a real powerful experience. 66 00:03:27,817 --> 00:03:29,370 (person shouting) 67 00:03:29,370 --> 00:03:32,190 The wall is something that was completely containing them. 68 00:03:32,190 --> 00:03:35,280 Yet, the leaking of the sound through the wall, 69 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,950 that was their way out to the world. 70 00:03:37,950 --> 00:03:39,603 The wall was kind of porous. 71 00:03:41,220 --> 00:03:45,810 - Room one series closeup, take one. (claps) 72 00:03:45,810 --> 00:03:48,240 - The whole idea with Walled Unwalled 73 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,720 was to have this performance play out 74 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,300 in an old recording studio. 75 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:57,810 Everything you see is shot through that soundproof glass. 76 00:03:57,810 --> 00:04:00,993 It all felt like a way of speaking about the prison. 77 00:04:01,980 --> 00:04:02,880 And in some point in the film 78 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,560 you see someone flashing a light. 79 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,387 She was flashing the light because there was no 80 00:04:06,387 --> 00:04:08,370 audible communication through these walls. 81 00:04:08,370 --> 00:04:10,350 I mean, they were really soundproof. 82 00:04:10,350 --> 00:04:15,120 Now, no wall on earth is impermeable. 83 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,637 Today, we're all wall, and no wall at all. 84 00:04:22,950 --> 00:04:26,190 Ironically, the more we are connected, 85 00:04:26,190 --> 00:04:31,190 the more walls are shown to be this sort of futile thing, 86 00:04:31,230 --> 00:04:34,461 the more we're invested in protecting the border. 87 00:04:34,461 --> 00:04:37,044 (somber music) 88 00:04:38,010 --> 00:04:40,290 Borders are not lines. 89 00:04:40,290 --> 00:04:44,433 They are these layered spaces, rich with history. 90 00:04:50,580 --> 00:04:53,703 - There is a US border guard sitting in that car there. 91 00:04:55,170 --> 00:04:56,640 The engine stays running 92 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,891 and his eyes remain laser focused on the main door. 93 00:04:59,891 --> 00:05:01,920 (mysterious music) 94 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,430 Each visitor who crosses the street over from the US 95 00:05:05,430 --> 00:05:08,073 must also exit back into the US. 96 00:05:08,910 --> 00:05:11,250 Those who come from the right, from Canada, 97 00:05:11,250 --> 00:05:14,100 must not, under any circumstances, 98 00:05:14,100 --> 00:05:16,320 even if they have a valid visa, 99 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,573 exit the library into the US. 100 00:05:19,650 --> 00:05:22,050 The border cannot be crossed here. 101 00:05:22,050 --> 00:05:25,413 And yet, inside it's like the border doesn't even exist. 102 00:05:26,250 --> 00:05:30,420 Technically, Agatha Christie sits on a shelf on US soil, 103 00:05:30,420 --> 00:05:32,763 while Iggy Pop's biography is in Canada. 104 00:05:33,780 --> 00:05:35,850 - [Film Worker] A1-Eagle, take one. (claps) 105 00:05:35,850 --> 00:05:39,630 - This library and opera house were built on the border 106 00:05:39,630 --> 00:05:42,189 between Canada and America. 107 00:05:42,189 --> 00:05:43,620 And that seemed to me as a space in which 108 00:05:43,620 --> 00:05:46,440 you could tell the story of borders, 109 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,060 starting with that electrical tape 110 00:05:48,060 --> 00:05:49,710 that cuts through the library. 111 00:05:49,710 --> 00:05:52,560 Expand on that and show all of the way 112 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,463 in which the border exists as something that is absurd. 113 00:05:57,900 --> 00:06:02,190 And yet, they are this sort of network of power 114 00:06:02,190 --> 00:06:05,973 that is being exerted, sometimes in completely lethal ways. 115 00:06:10,860 --> 00:06:12,600 - When the murder took place, 116 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,030 the murderer and the murdered were actually 117 00:06:15,030 --> 00:06:17,463 in entirely different jurisdictions. 118 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,360 Though Mesa's firearm was stretched out 119 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,350 into Mexican territory, his feet were three inches 120 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:26,943 behind the American border. 121 00:06:28,620 --> 00:06:31,143 If Agent Mesa had stepped over the line, 122 00:06:32,190 --> 00:06:33,960 there would be no question of Mexico 123 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,263 demanding his extradition for murdering their citizen. 124 00:06:37,263 --> 00:06:39,720 (haunting music) 125 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,453 At the Supreme Court, a hypothetical emerged. 126 00:06:43,500 --> 00:06:45,900 If Mesa could be prosecuted, 127 00:06:45,900 --> 00:06:48,720 could anyone killed abroad by a US agent 128 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,943 seek justice in an American court? 129 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:52,913 No. 130 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,340 - It was such a close decision, five-four. 131 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,660 What swayed it was to recognize 132 00:07:00,660 --> 00:07:03,960 that should they convict Agent Mesa, 133 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,690 they would be opening up themselves to litigation 134 00:07:06,690 --> 00:07:11,190 of every drone strike, because it's the same story, right? 135 00:07:11,190 --> 00:07:13,290 Someone pulls the trigger in Arizona 136 00:07:13,290 --> 00:07:15,373 and somebody dies in Yemen. 137 00:07:15,373 --> 00:07:17,956 (haunting music) 138 00:07:29,370 --> 00:07:31,740 Well, I was born in Jordan. 139 00:07:31,740 --> 00:07:33,573 But I also grew up in Yorkshire. 140 00:07:34,470 --> 00:07:37,731 And I was exposed to the DIY music scene in Leeds. 141 00:07:37,731 --> 00:07:40,481 (dynamic music) 142 00:07:42,810 --> 00:07:44,820 I spent years abusing my hearing, 143 00:07:44,820 --> 00:07:48,030 playing in bands and making a lot of noise. 144 00:07:48,030 --> 00:07:51,030 It showed me how organization around sound 145 00:07:51,030 --> 00:07:54,723 and music was a political act to bring together communities. 146 00:07:58,230 --> 00:08:00,420 Works that I make are cross-disciplinary. 147 00:08:00,420 --> 00:08:02,982 And they demand the help and resources of people 148 00:08:02,982 --> 00:08:05,040 who are really in their discipline. 149 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,986 It's always a a team effort. 150 00:08:06,986 --> 00:08:10,986 (moaning, clanking and tapping) 151 00:08:29,951 --> 00:08:31,440 The beginning was great. - Yeah. 152 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,018 - The sort of the keys. 153 00:08:33,018 --> 00:08:33,960 - Can you hear that, I don't? - Yeah. 154 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,030 I think starting with those details, 155 00:08:36,030 --> 00:08:37,620 working with the knocker, 156 00:08:37,620 --> 00:08:41,160 and then moving between the sort of the lollipop on that, 157 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,420 and then to this. - Do you like this? 158 00:08:42,420 --> 00:08:44,550 Do you like opening this, or should I stay away from it? 159 00:08:44,550 --> 00:08:45,383 - No, no, do that. 160 00:08:45,383 --> 00:08:47,507 That was really good. - I'm kind of like... 161 00:08:47,507 --> 00:08:49,674 (moaning) 162 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,570 - I specifically didn't want a sound effects artist 163 00:08:54,570 --> 00:08:56,970 to play those doors because I knew that they would 164 00:08:56,970 --> 00:08:58,830 know what they're doing with them. 165 00:08:58,830 --> 00:09:02,160 That they would sort of fall into a disciplinary mode 166 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,380 in which they're able to do things with those doors 167 00:09:04,380 --> 00:09:06,974 that is part of their professional world. 168 00:09:06,974 --> 00:09:08,790 (tapping) 169 00:09:08,790 --> 00:09:11,823 I wanted to see what else those doors would be able to do. 170 00:09:13,230 --> 00:09:15,960 Making whale calls, then slamming them 171 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,173 and bringing them back to their door-like form. 172 00:09:20,100 --> 00:09:21,960 And that was really important to the story 173 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,398 I was trying to tell about acoustic memory. 174 00:09:24,398 --> 00:09:28,231 (mallets banging and tapping) 175 00:09:35,310 --> 00:09:38,010 Sound effects are really key in the way we can both 176 00:09:38,010 --> 00:09:40,230 solicit memory, but the way we also 177 00:09:40,230 --> 00:09:42,183 commit those sounds to our memories. 178 00:09:45,690 --> 00:09:47,310 The doors in Saydnaya Prison 179 00:09:47,310 --> 00:09:49,350 had a similar effect on its survivors. 180 00:09:49,350 --> 00:09:50,910 See, none of the door sounds I played 181 00:09:50,910 --> 00:09:53,100 satisfied Samara's acoustic memory. 182 00:09:53,100 --> 00:09:54,870 We found one that was okay, 183 00:09:54,870 --> 00:09:57,020 but he kept telling me to raise the volume. 184 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,600 The sounds were getting louder and louder, 185 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,430 until finally I played him the sound 186 00:10:02,430 --> 00:10:04,203 of a huge metal door slamming 187 00:10:04,203 --> 00:10:07,383 with the reverb set to Notre Dame Cathedral. 188 00:10:09,930 --> 00:10:11,730 Upon hearing this, Samara was taken aback. 189 00:10:11,730 --> 00:10:15,090 He stopped me and he said, this sound was present. 190 00:10:15,090 --> 00:10:17,460 This was the exact sound, not of the door, 191 00:10:17,460 --> 00:10:19,650 but the sound of sheets of bread 192 00:10:19,650 --> 00:10:22,473 being dropped to the ground outside my cell. 193 00:10:23,615 --> 00:10:25,865 (pounding) 194 00:10:27,810 --> 00:10:29,460 We would use a lot of sound effects 195 00:10:29,460 --> 00:10:32,160 for those ear witness interviews to really get to 196 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,020 the sound that we were talking about. 197 00:10:34,020 --> 00:10:36,123 And sort of also place them in space. 198 00:10:37,170 --> 00:10:40,499 And so I built this inventory of sound effects. 199 00:10:40,499 --> 00:10:44,070 (banging tapping and popping) 200 00:10:44,070 --> 00:10:45,960 Based on all the legal cases I'd worked on, 201 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,450 what would I've used in a case where I need 202 00:10:48,450 --> 00:10:52,058 to recreate a ricochet off a border fence in Palestine? 203 00:10:52,058 --> 00:10:54,840 (banging and crashing) 204 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,170 They really were very important in the case of Saydnaya. 205 00:10:58,170 --> 00:10:59,640 The metal door, a wooden door, 206 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,460 and a car door, adapted for my means. 207 00:11:02,460 --> 00:11:04,860 And the idea that you could really construct 208 00:11:04,860 --> 00:11:07,893 a whole array of door sounds from just this one instrument. 209 00:11:09,510 --> 00:11:11,234 Goalkeeper gloves. The granite stone tiles. 210 00:11:11,234 --> 00:11:14,070 Green coconut, shouting. Ice cream truck. 211 00:11:14,070 --> 00:11:16,024 Where is the gun? Music box. 212 00:11:16,024 --> 00:11:19,107 (airplane whooshing) 213 00:11:27,670 --> 00:11:30,210 Over the last 15, 16 years, Israeli jets 214 00:11:30,210 --> 00:11:32,850 and drones flying over Lebanon have created 215 00:11:32,850 --> 00:11:36,273 a kind of acoustic fearscape for people living in Lebanon. 216 00:11:38,490 --> 00:11:42,047 Air Pressure began as a acoustic investigation. 217 00:11:42,047 --> 00:11:44,964 (keyboard tapping) 218 00:11:45,990 --> 00:11:48,030 It's a website that sought to produce 219 00:11:48,030 --> 00:11:49,860 some understanding about what was happening 220 00:11:49,860 --> 00:11:51,273 in the air over Lebanon. 221 00:11:53,231 --> 00:11:56,550 I'm trying to, you know, Shazam the skies. 222 00:11:56,550 --> 00:12:00,180 Hear a unmanned aerial vehicle, identify that. 223 00:12:00,180 --> 00:12:01,740 Hear a fighter jet, identify that. 224 00:12:01,740 --> 00:12:03,120 And then start to hear the difference 225 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,767 between an F16, an F35. 226 00:12:08,940 --> 00:12:11,370 We produced the first database 227 00:12:11,370 --> 00:12:13,770 of these military aircraft in the sky. 228 00:12:13,770 --> 00:12:16,143 And the numbers were staggering. 229 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,614 22,111 of them over the last 15 years. 230 00:12:20,614 --> 00:12:23,197 (somber music) 231 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,370 And you see them interlinking and overlapping over time. 232 00:12:29,370 --> 00:12:30,870 It's not a map of a territory, 233 00:12:30,870 --> 00:12:33,510 but it's actually a kind of cartography of pressure 234 00:12:33,510 --> 00:12:34,980 that's being exerted down. 235 00:12:34,980 --> 00:12:36,690 It happens to be the shape of Lebanon 236 00:12:36,690 --> 00:12:38,790 simply because the aircrafts have covered 237 00:12:38,790 --> 00:12:40,323 the entirety of the country. 238 00:12:42,900 --> 00:12:47,070 This is not a work about whose air it is being violated. 239 00:12:47,070 --> 00:12:49,740 The air doesn't belong to the Lebanese either. 240 00:12:49,740 --> 00:12:52,590 It's a work about how you turn the air violent, 241 00:12:52,590 --> 00:12:55,833 and how sound is really an effective way to do that. 242 00:12:56,842 --> 00:12:58,800 (airplane whooshing) 243 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,920 You can see every tweet and video made 244 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,710 referring to these aircraft in the sky. 245 00:13:04,710 --> 00:13:06,540 You see people joking. 246 00:13:06,540 --> 00:13:08,550 Some people say, "Oh, look at these planes. 247 00:13:08,550 --> 00:13:11,070 They're going so low they're gonna cut my laundry wires." 248 00:13:11,070 --> 00:13:13,710 Other people, you can tell they're scared. 249 00:13:13,710 --> 00:13:16,230 They say, "Look what they have in their arsenal. 250 00:13:16,230 --> 00:13:17,730 May God protect us." 251 00:13:17,730 --> 00:13:19,744 Other people simply use this hashtag 252 00:13:19,744 --> 00:13:20,580 حربي بالاجواء 253 00:13:20,580 --> 00:13:22,280 which means war in the atmosphere. 254 00:13:24,690 --> 00:13:26,850 The website circulated very heavily 255 00:13:26,850 --> 00:13:29,190 because no one had ever done that work before. 256 00:13:29,190 --> 00:13:32,700 And in fact, the Lebanese government who contacted me later 257 00:13:32,700 --> 00:13:36,116 had basically told me that they had never even done this. 258 00:13:36,116 --> 00:13:39,180 (airplane whooshing) 259 00:13:39,180 --> 00:13:41,370 When I was producing Air Pressure, 260 00:13:41,370 --> 00:13:43,560 and it got all this international attention, 261 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:45,570 it occurred to me that 10 years had passed 262 00:13:45,570 --> 00:13:47,867 of doing this kind of acoustic investigation, 263 00:13:47,867 --> 00:13:50,610 and that it needed its own kind of space. 264 00:13:50,610 --> 00:13:53,134 Well I decided to start this agency called Earshot. 265 00:13:53,134 --> 00:13:55,884 (dynamic music) 266 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,763 We're a small team of people. 267 00:14:02,490 --> 00:14:05,580 There's been a greater awareness of why sound matters 268 00:14:05,580 --> 00:14:07,323 for open source investigations. 269 00:14:09,270 --> 00:14:11,490 I'd learned enough doing these projects 270 00:14:11,490 --> 00:14:13,410 that I could also start to train other people 271 00:14:13,410 --> 00:14:16,560 to do this work, and we could start to build our own agency 272 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:18,783 for acoustic and audio analysis. 273 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,800 I wanna build greater cognizance for what 274 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,793 good listening can do, and what story sound can tell. 275 00:14:32,220 --> 00:14:34,560 There's so much more to do, 276 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,830 and so many other ways in which we can give people 277 00:14:37,830 --> 00:14:39,668 the space and time to be heard. 278 00:14:39,668 --> 00:14:44,668 (dynamic music) (people chattering)