[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.81,0:00:15.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I recently posted a poll here on YouTube asking\Nwhether or not Hornet was made of Void. Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.66,0:00:17.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And 60% of you said “yes”. Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.81,0:00:21.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So today, I am going to explain why 60% of\Nyou are completely fucking wrong. Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.98,0:00:24.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I don’t blame anybody for thinking\Nthis. Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.91,0:00:28.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, in my Zote video, I flat out said\Nthat Hornet was made of Void. Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.71,0:00:32.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let this be a reminder that any Hollow Knight\Nlore video you watch on YouTube is probably Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.83,0:00:36.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to have missing evidence or a few flawed\Nconclusions. Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.52,0:00:38.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This shit can get fucking confusing. Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.57,0:00:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So please don’t take anything I say as gospel. Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.04,0:00:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That being said, Hornet is 100%, definitely,\Nirrefutably not made of Void. Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.84,0:00:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This issue has caused so much debate that\Nit’s starting to turn into a meme. Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.60,0:00:55.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So just call me “Pewdiepie” because it’s\Ntime for this meme to die. Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.89,0:01:00.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let’s start off with the most obvious observation\Nthat might lead one to think that Hornet is Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.43,0:01:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made of Void. Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.43,0:01:02.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She’s black. Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.54,0:01:03.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“THAT’S RACIST!” Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.40,0:01:06.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this doesn’t actually prove much of\Nanything. Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.62,0:01:10.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Several characters in Hallownest have black\Nportions of their bodies, so to just say that Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.74,0:01:13.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are all made of Void might be a bit drastic. Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.55,0:01:16.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need more concrete proof. Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.01,0:01:20.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another characteristic worth pointing out\Nis that Hornet’s shell does not have a mouth. Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.31,0:01:24.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a feature she shares with the Vessels,\Nbeings we know are composed of Void. Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.77,0:01:30.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But while their shells do share this design,\Nit isn’t because of a relation to the Void, Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.01,0:01:34.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but a relation to the Pale King, who is also\Nlacking a mouth. Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.25,0:01:39.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hornet, the Knight, the Hollow Knight and\Nthe Vessels are all children of the Pale King. Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.25,0:01:41.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, this guy fucks. Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.01,0:01:44.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there’s a lot to unpack here, so I’m\Njust going to start off by explaining why Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.66,0:01:47.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hornet is the Pale King’s biological daughter. Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.58,0:01:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Deepnest, Hornet tells us that Herrah is\Nher mother. Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.95,0:01:51.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She says: Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.95,0:01:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“We do not choose our mothers, or the circumstance\Ninto which we are born. Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.60,0:01:59.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Despite all the ills of this world, I'm thankful\Nfor the life she granted me.” Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.87,0:02:04.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The phrase “life she granted me” shows\Nthat Herrah was directly involved with Hornet’s Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.79,0:02:05.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,birth. Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.79,0:02:10.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is more evidence for this thanks to\NMidwife, in that her name is literally Midwife. Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.66,0:02:14.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A midwife is someone who helps a mother through\Nchildbirth. Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.26,0:02:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it’s safe to say that Midwife was Herrah’s\Nactual midwife during Hornet’s birth. Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.58,0:02:22.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s a little on the nose for Team Cherry,\Nbut I’m not going to complain. Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.42,0:02:26.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact I wish more characters had names more\Nclosely tied to their character arcs. Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.49,0:02:29.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The White Lady also has dialogue confirming\NHornet’s origins. Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.74,0:02:32.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She says that Hornet has the striking reflection\Nof her mother. Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.90,0:02:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hornet and Herrah do share the same shape\Nfor their heads, showing a connection, but Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.68,0:02:39.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“striking reflection” might be a bit of\Na stretch. Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.65,0:02:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You gotta remember that the White Lady is\Nblind. Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.39,0:02:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The White Lady also points us to who Hornet’s\Nfather is. Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.60,0:02:46.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She says: Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.60,0:02:49.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“I never begrudged the Wyrm's dalliance\Nas bargain. Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.07,0:02:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, I feel some affection for the creature\Nbirthed.” Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.56,0:02:55.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The White Lady’s dialogue here is a bit\Narchaic. Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.25,0:02:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She is basically saying she was okay being\Ncucked by the Pale King, and that she has Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.52,0:03:03.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,affection for Hornet despite Hornet not being\Nher own child. Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.39,0:03:06.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The word “dalliance” here is what proves\Nall of this. Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.17,0:03:10.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A dalliance means “a casual romantic or\Nsexual relationship”. Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.83,0:03:14.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I doubt that the Pale King was having\Na romantic relationship with Herrah, since Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.44,0:03:18.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he’s like a fucking God and she is just\Na common beast. Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.04,0:03:22.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t know if you’ve ever read any Greek\Nmythology, but let’s just say Zeus wasn’t Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.59,0:03:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exactly taking any of the humans out to Olive\NGarden. Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.38,0:03:29.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is also this line from Midwife that\Nemphasizes Hornet’s connection to the Pale Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.03,0:03:30.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,King. Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.05,0:03:31.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When talking about Hornet, she says: Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.75,0:03:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Pale gift to the Nest and the Beast, fair\Ntrade for sacrifice made.” Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.92,0:03:42.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She calls Hornet “pale”, a word usually\Ntied to the Pale King, or sometimes just Higher Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.49,0:03:43.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Beings in general. Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.97,0:03:46.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Pale Ore is used to forge strong weapons. Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.76,0:03:52.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also, in a Reddit AMA, Ari Gibson said that\Nthe Pale Ores are related to the Pale Beings. Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.67,0:03:55.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Godseeker refers to the White Lady as “pale\Nmother”. Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.01,0:03:56.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is also the delicate flower. Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.75,0:04:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is described as having a pale glow, but\Nwe don’t know if it is tied to the Pale Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.03,0:04:02.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,King in any way. Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.53,0:04:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Regardless, this pale attribute Hornet has,\Nalong with her visual similarities, all point Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.92,0:04:11.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to her being the biological child of the Pale\NKing. Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.17,0:04:16.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think some of the confusion here is that\NHornet is constantly referred to as a gift. Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.29,0:04:20.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This sort of implies that Hornet was given\Nto Herrah after she was already created. Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.93,0:04:26.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think this is just saying that the Pale\NKing’s gift is… you know… his dick. Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.31,0:04:29.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Going back to the White Lady’s line “I\Nnever begrudged the Wyrm’s dalliance as Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.70,0:04:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bargain.” Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.86,0:04:35.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The phrasing here implies that it was the\Ndalliance that was bargained, not the actual Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.10,0:04:36.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,child. Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.60,0:04:40.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in other words, the Pale King was offering\Nsexual activity in exchange for payment in Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.93,0:04:42.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the form of Herrah’s help. Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.94,0:04:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unfortunately, whenever one topic of Hollow\NKnight lore comes up, it ends up being tied Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.94,0:04:48.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to another topic. Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.81,0:04:52.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this case, since we’re talking about\NHornet’s birth, it would be worth talking Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.31,0:04:54.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about how the Vessels were created. Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.61,0:04:58.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let’s turn our attention to the other\Nside of the Pale King’s family tree: the Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.41,0:05:01.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family he created with a literal tree. Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.24,0:05:05.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We know that the Vessels, or at least the\Ncreatures that became the Vessels, were born Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.81,0:05:07.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Abyss. Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.37,0:05:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have the Pale King’s dialogue where he\Nsays that the Hollow Knight was “Born of Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.68,0:05:12.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God and Void”. Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.34,0:05:16.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hornet calls the Hollow Knight “our birth\Ncursed sibling". Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.09,0:05:19.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Note that Hornet says “our” here because\Nshe shares a relation to the Vessels through Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.83,0:05:20.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Pale King. Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.83,0:05:23.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn’t have anything to do with Void. Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.21,0:05:27.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The lore tablet in the Pale King’s throne\Nroom also mentions a cursed progeny, or a Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.40,0:05:29.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cursed offspring. Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.08,0:05:33.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Kingsoul charm description says it opens\Nthe way to a birthplace, which is located Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.30,0:05:35.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Abyss. Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.07,0:05:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Finally we also have the words of the White\NLady. Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.60,0:05:40.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you talk to her while wearing the Kingsoul\Nshe will say: Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.55,0:05:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“If its curiosity wills it, it should seek\Nout that place. Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.38,0:05:49.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That place where it was born, where it died,\Nwhere it began...” Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.14,0:05:52.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She then also calls the Knight her spawn when\Ntalking about Grimm. Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.93,0:05:56.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then there is also her dialogue where\Nshe admits her shame in participating in a Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.66,0:06:02.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deed and implying that this deed had to do\Nwith propagating herself, or in other words, Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.33,0:06:03.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,breeding. Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.33,0:06:06.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From the lore tablet in the Ancient Basin,\Nit seems pretty obvious that this shameful Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.74,0:06:09.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deed was the creation of the Vessels. Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.74,0:06:13.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of this evidence proves that the Pale\NKing’s and White Lady’s children were Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.10,0:06:18.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,born in the darkness, but the White Lady also\Nsays that the Abyss is where they died. Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.12,0:06:22.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also, Hornet calls the Knight “ghost”\Nmultiple times throughout the game. Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.65,0:06:27.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This “death” probably occurred when the\NVoid became a part of the Vessel’s bodies. Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.55,0:06:29.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But how did this happen? Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.08,0:06:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are several eggs in the Abyss, one of\Nwhich is completely black with void tentacles Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.20,0:06:35.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connected to it. Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.41,0:06:38.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did the Void fuse into the egg before birth? Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.81,0:06:41.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or did the Void enter the bodies after they\Nwere born? Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.78,0:06:42.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or maybe after they died. Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.85,0:06:47.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t think it matters too much how this\Nhappened, just that it did happen. Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.58,0:06:53.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is evidence to support the idea that\NVoid is capable of combining with living creatures. Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.30,0:06:56.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have the royal husk in the Queen’s Garden. Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.41,0:06:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Its Dream Nail dialogue reads: Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.88,0:06:59.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Too long spent together. Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.81,0:07:01.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We become as one.” Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.75,0:07:06.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This bug is found holding the Love Key, which\Nis used to enter the Tower of Lover, where Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.45,0:07:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Collector is located. Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.17,0:07:11.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think this Dream Nail dialogue is saying\Nthat this husk gazed into the Collector so Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.71,0:07:16.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,long that the Void within the Collector gazed\Nback into him, resulting in the Void we see Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.79,0:07:18.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around the husk’s corpse. Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.79,0:07:23.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what does this tell us other than that\NTeam Cherry are big fans of Nietzsche? Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.63,0:07:27.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well the phrase “become as one” hints\Nat the possibility for living creatures and Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.83,0:07:30.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Void to combine in some way. Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.15,0:07:34.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now let’s take a minute to talk about the\Nidea that the Vessels are the artificial creations Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.94,0:07:36.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Pale King. Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.49,0:07:40.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We know that the Pale King is capable of making\Nsuch things, given the Kingsmoulds and the Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.74,0:07:42.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wingsmoulds. Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.15,0:07:46.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But for the Vessels to be constructs, we have\Nto completely ignore all of the evidence I Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.35,0:07:50.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just presented, and there is more evidence\Nto counter this view. Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.83,0:07:54.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why is there so much regret involved in the\Ncreation of the Vessels if they were just Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.73,0:07:56.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,constructs? Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.11,0:07:59.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why all the mentions of children and progeny? Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.18,0:08:03.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the Pale King built these things in his\Nworkshop, where did the shells come from? Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.46,0:08:06.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There isn’t any explanation for how they\Ngot made. Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.07,0:08:10.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also, the Dung Defender was surprised to see\Nthe Knight, proving that he thought only one Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.92,0:08:13.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Vessel existed, the Hollow Knight. Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.77,0:08:18.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is just speculation, but judging from\Nthe thousands of shells found in the Abyss, Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.03,0:08:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it seems unlikely that the Pale King would\Nhave been able to create all of these Vessels Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.24,0:08:26.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and transport them to the Abyss without one\Nof the most loyal members of his Pale Court Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.27,0:08:27.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finding out. Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.52,0:08:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alright, let’s summarize the nature of the\NVessels and why Hornet is most likely not Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.32,0:08:33.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of them. Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.61,0:08:37.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Vessels are the spawn of the Pale King\Nand the White Lady. Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.07,0:08:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The eggs they were born from were placed in\Nthe Abyss, resulting in their bodies becoming Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.20,0:08:44.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hollowed out and replaced by the Void. Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.10,0:08:48.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They consist of an outer shell created by\Nthe Pale King and the White Lady, as well Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.29,0:08:51.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an inner shade, composed of Void. Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.18,0:08:53.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hench the phrase “Born of God and Void”. Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.77,0:08:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the creation of all of the Pale King’s\Noffspring involved the act of dirty, possibly Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.48,0:09:00.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kinky, bug sex. Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.11,0:09:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Pale King didn’t artificially create\Nany of his children, so he doesn’t actually Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.45,0:09:07.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need Void in order to create a child. Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.43,0:09:10.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So why would Hornet have any Void in her? Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.02,0:09:13.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no need to drop an egg of Hornet\Ninto the Abyss, since she was not going to Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.66,0:09:15.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be used as a Vessel. Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.41,0:09:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fact that she is the only child of the\NPale King not to be placed in the Abyss is Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.00,0:09:21.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what grants her the name “the Gendered Child”. Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.58,0:09:26.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the Vessels were consumed by the Void\Nand turned into “ghosts” as Hornet puts Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.01,0:09:28.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it, they lost their gender. Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.21,0:09:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On top of that, there is strong evidence to\Nsupport the idea that Hornet was born in Deepnest, Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.72,0:09:34.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not the Abyss. Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.22,0:09:37.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When talking to Hornet at the top of the Abyss\Nshe says this: Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.85,0:09:38.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Ghost. Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.85,0:09:41.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see you've faced the place of your birth...” Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.58,0:09:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Notice that Hornet says “your birth”,\Nnot “our birth”. Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.88,0:09:49.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, like I mentioned earlier we have the\Nguy from “Spirited Away” which implies Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.08,0:09:50.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hornet was born in Deepnest. Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.46,0:09:55.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now let’s jump into one of the most interesting\Nlines used by both sides of the Hornet is Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.34,0:09:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Void debate. Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.98,0:09:57.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hornet says: Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.98,0:10:02.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Though our strength is born of similar\Nsource, that part of you, that crucial emptiness, Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.76,0:10:04.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not share.” Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.94,0:10:08.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you were to argue that Hornet is Void,\Nyou would say that the “similar source” Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.93,0:10:14.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the Void but that the “crucial emptiness”\Nis being a truly hollow Vessel. Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.42,0:10:19.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have evidence that creatures made of Void\Nhave the potential to have thoughts and feelings, Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.18,0:10:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from both the Collector and the fact that\Nthe Hollow Knight was imperfect. Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.58,0:10:26.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this line can also be interpreted where\Nthe “similar source” is the power of the Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.40,0:10:30.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pale King and the “crucial emptiness”\Nis the Void itself. Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.79,0:10:34.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Pale King’s offspring all share the\Nbenefit of his power. Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.47,0:10:38.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Both Hornet and the Knight are referred to\Nas being “pale”, and the Hollow Knight Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.10,0:10:40.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is described as having a “holy shell”. Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.63,0:10:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hornet is also one of the few bugs who realizes\Nshe is in a dream in Godhome. Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.99,0:10:48.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only other bug that can do this is Grimm,\Na Higher Being. Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.36,0:10:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As for the “crucial emptiness” line, the\Nword “emptiness” is used a couple of times Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.80,0:10:56.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the game and are used to refer to the Void\Nitself. Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.35,0:11:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Void Heart is described as an emptiness\Nby both the game menu and the White Lady. Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.58,0:11:05.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is also the Hunter’s Journal entry\Nfor the Siblings, which mentions that the Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.25,0:11:08.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Abyss contains a “pervasive empiness”. Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.59,0:11:10.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the next line, Hornet says: Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.10,0:11:13.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Funny then, that such darkness gives me\Nhope.” Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.50,0:11:15.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When Dream Nailed Hornet also says: Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.42,0:11:18.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“It faced the void, and ascends unscathed... Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.32,0:11:21.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Could it unite such vast darkness?...” Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.24,0:11:25.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Hornet is specifically referring to the\NVoid when using the word “darkness”, since Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.81,0:11:28.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Void is what is united in the Dream No\NMore ending. Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.50,0:11:33.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The encounter the Knight has with Hornet at\Nthe Temple of the Black Egg also implies that Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.59,0:11:35.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hornet is not made of Void. Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.61,0:11:36.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She says: Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.61,0:11:38.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“I won't be joining you in this. Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.50,0:11:41.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That space is built to sustain your likes. Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.01,0:11:44.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Its bindings would drain me were I to join.” Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.07,0:11:46.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This line clearly separates Hornet from the\NKnight. Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.17,0:11:50.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this line makes sense when we consider\Nthat the Knight contains Void inside of it, Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.34,0:11:52.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while Hornet does not. Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.15,0:11:56.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Void is the only significant quality that\Nseparates the nature of the two beings. Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.74,0:12:00.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alright, so now I’d like to go through some\Nof the arguments posted in my poll. Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.84,0:12:05.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of people were mentioning the fact that\NHornet gives the Knight soul when she is hit. Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.67,0:12:07.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This doesn’t prove anything. Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.41,0:12:10.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Pure Vessel gives off soul despite having\NVoid inside of it. Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.85,0:12:14.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only beings that don’t give off soul\Nare the siblings and the Collector. Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.62,0:12:17.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These enemies are composed entirely of Void. Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.55,0:12:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Vessels have shells, which is a possible\Nexplanation as to why they still give off Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.12,0:12:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,soul. Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.20,0:12:27.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Sealed Sibling achievement seems to imply\Nthat Hornet is a sibling to the Vessels. Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.18,0:12:30.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is true, but it isn’t the Void that\Nmakes her a sibling, it’s her shared relation Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.82,0:12:32.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the Pale King. Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.02,0:12:37.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is this idea that Hornet has some Void\Nin her, but not as much as the Vessels. Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.99,0:12:40.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There isn’t any evidence to support this. Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.48,0:12:44.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Vessels themselves are an outer organic\Nshell with an inner Void. Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.54,0:12:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no explanation how Hornet could only\Nbe part inner Void? Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.28,0:12:52.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is an argument that Hornet is a defective\NVessel. Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.31,0:12:56.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only defective Vessel we know about is\Nthe Hollow Knight, and its defect was not Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.35,0:12:58.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,noticeable at all until later. Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.98,0:13:03.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we really don’t know how extreme a defective\NVessel can get. Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.54,0:13:04.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there you have it. Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.68,0:13:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Undeniable proof that Hornet is not made of\NVoid. Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.48,0:13:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I know that there a few holdouts who still\Nrefuse to believe me. Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.48,0:13:14.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that’s just fine. Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.17,0:13:16.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are allowed to believe whatever you want. Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.10,0:13:20.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While we’re at it, let’s pretend that\Nthe Tooth Fairy is real too, Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.04,0:13:21.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that Santa Claus exists, Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.94,0:13:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that the Earth is actually\Nround.