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你知道我以前被英文老師取什麼

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名字？不知道

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那時候他看我一眼你就叫Jay

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JAY然後我就一直覺得自己

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沒有很喜歡這個名字

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因為當年沒有一個明星叫做

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周傑倫

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我就自己用電子字典查

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這是什麼意思

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然後後來發現最的中文翻譯叫做

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愛說話的傻瓜

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科技創新

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娛樂

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各種新奇有趣都在寶博朋友說

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你聽寶博朋友說了嗎

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hello

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歡迎來到寶博朋友說我是葛如鈞

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寶博士

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2017年比特幣狂漲

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全球刮起了一陣虛擬貨幣的浪潮

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接連帶動了區塊鏈

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虛擬貨幣等等的一些熱門話題

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在那個時候台灣在最好的時機

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出現了一個很特別也可以說是

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最好的之一

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除了寶博朋友說以外

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你不要先笑的網絡媒體區塊是

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趨勢的

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是區塊是一個訂閱付費的

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電子報非常特別的

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不只是訂閱付費的方法

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而且是他在一片網絡媒體當中殺

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出了一條康莊大道

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區塊式的標榜

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他是說人話的區塊鏈電子報

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他並沒有特別討好投資客或者是

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專業族群

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而是用一般人都能聽懂的白話的

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話語來講述到現在還是很繞口

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很難念的區塊鏈三個字

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單憑這一點就是一個非常特別

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大膽嘗試的舉動

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讓我們歡迎區塊是的創辦人

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大膽的許明恩

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hello大家好

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我是許明恩

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他在旁邊忍耐很久

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許明恩大家都叫你什麼叫你明恩

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嗎

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許博士沒有博士碩士明恩

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對

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沒有外號

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英文名字

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我英文名字叫 Astro

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A s t r o

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但是大家會問說到底這名字怎麼

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來的

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對怎麼來講就覺得很好奇

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我其實是在研究所的時候

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然後我很早以前叫這美語補習班

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幫我叫漢課都這樣

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老師都亂取

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就感覺好像隨便分發這樣子

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然後你就叫漢娜重新之後

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你就較難自己這樣子

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對

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然後我就突然想到不行

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怎麼可能英文名字就被一個美女

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老師就這樣決定了

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然後我就決定要重新換個名字

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改頭換面這樣就自己找

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首先我有幾個條件

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第1個條件是我想要字母前面

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一點

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有排序的時候打電動

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然後打贏我也不知道

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反正就對

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然後就想要AA抬頭最好

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後來我就想做A開頭什麼

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然後那時候正好看到一篇新聞

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就是說Google個實驗室叫

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Google X然後

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Google X他們有一個

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那時候正好Google X

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狠心

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你是幾歲

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你在Google X的時候才

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取英文名字

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反正就很後面才開始改英文名字

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這樣子

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然後那時候看到他們在做一些很

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比較酷的part

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都是在做射月計劃的東西

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對不對

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就看到他們有一個有點像TMD

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的人

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他名字叫 Astro 

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Teller

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然後那時候看到這個名字怎樣

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這是什麼很夢幻的名字

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就是什麼

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對星辰訴說者的樣子

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然後航海王的感覺

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對

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然後我就覺得天哪好好假掰我愛

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這樣子

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然後所以我就想說好那us

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然後我就在想說阿sir跟我

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本人有什麼關係

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因為我不想要被別人覺得我這麼

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的就是出錢膚淺

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呵呵

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對

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然後所以就想說OK

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我後來找到一點觀點

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我是許明恩

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然後明中間是日跟月

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然後他跟阿sir有點關係

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然後我就說OK那之後有人說

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為什麼我就說兩個理由

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一個是我覺得Google X

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在做的東西蠻有趣的

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然後我會蠻有興趣這種新的科技

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然後另外一部分是他跟我的中文

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名字有關係

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但絕口不提你是要A開頭

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所以我看到你前陣子去美國壯游

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是不是沒有是接下來我誤會了

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出發去多久

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我要去10天而已

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所以你準備帶著這個名字去對我

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還沒想到我可能去那邊

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我要說

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是我跟你講名字

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這件事真的很痛苦

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觀眾朋友到這邊可能會有點不耐

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就覺得不是講好結合兩區塊鏈嗎

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但寶博日節目都比較奇怪

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就是會帶他暖剩下嗎

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他聊點別的

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這樣應該也蠻有趣的

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如果你真的很想搞I廳局觀聽

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不懂的東西

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趕快轉一下也是沒有關係

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你知道我以前背英文老師取什麼

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名字我不知道

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那時候他看我一眼

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你就叫Jay

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然後是jack JJJAY

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然後那個時候就覺得 OK可以

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然後我就一直覺得自己沒有很

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喜歡這個名字

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因為當年沒有一個明星叫做

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周傑倫

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然後我就覺得我就自己用電影

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字典查

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這是什麼意思

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然後後來發現這裡的中文翻譯

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叫做愛說話的傻瓜

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然後我又決心拋棄這個名字

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你知道嗎

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然後直到後來周結緣就變紅了

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我想再撿回來有點來不及

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而且你就算剪還跟人家說

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這人家還以為你是周傑倫粉絲

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所以我以前在節目裡面我就講過

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就是我的英文名字的一個困擾了

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然後我到奇點大學的時候

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我一開始說我要叫JC然後就

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一直被笑

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我就說what 

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JZ!

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然後有一些西班牙的或者是

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葡萄牙來

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他們就說 Jesus Chris!

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然後最後你知道超苦惱的

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後來就決定不管她們

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我就說這意思

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因為我是如君我的如是JU然後

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軍械趣聞錐形

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所以總是聽眾朋友

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大家可以知道

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我們就已經都我不知道三十幾

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你是幾年次的

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我是1990197979

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你是9090的話

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現在是幾歲

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我今年應該快40

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所以你看一個29歲的人

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一個快40的人

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然後這邊有一隻眼英文名

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叫什麼

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改名

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所以如果聽眾朋友未來有遠大的

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志向

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想要向全球化市場發展的話

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鼓勵大家可以早一點思考自己的

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英文名字

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好不好

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然後故事編漂亮一點的對S首日

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樂不錯

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我覺得可以

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我們還是要來稍微讓大家更多

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一點瞭解許明恩我們的計劃跟

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剪接師明爭名字跟你差一個字

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給我們一個主題

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這很妙

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叫做結構

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李工腦

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看透了她的心

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講出來了

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狄斯洛校長對不起來賓

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看透了他的心

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還有文學逗留的背影

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這是什麼

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好I立委可能你是有一點理工跟

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文學混雜

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因為你很會寫文章

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聲音又很有磁性

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然後又怕X可能我們待會聊聊

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先講一下你的背景

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所以他這邊幫你整理了三大重點

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他自己沒看過

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所以我們今天有錄音

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所以大家可以到UT5上面看許

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明恩害羞的表情

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他說你是台灣大學電子工程

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研究所碩士畢業

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對不對

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台大幫你試劍台台是不是

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我是太男人太聽得懂

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對不對

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有關好聽朋友如果不知道什麼是

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劍台的話

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在這邊告訴一下大家

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有一種特別天資聰穎的人

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他就是可以從出生然後念書

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對他來講就像遊戲一般

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所以他就是建中台大

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如果你是博士班的話

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就見抬拉

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如果再加博士後就建台台

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所以你我是譚二中

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台南二中你們這樣有一種說法嗎

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男二台

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你是一畢業就創辦區塊是嗎

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不是

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畢業之後先去當研發替代E在

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什麼樣的公司

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在這內湖的科技公司

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然後做物聯網做物聯網IOTO

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K然後做完退伍之後做完

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其實中間做到一半

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然後因為家庭因素

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然後就發現申請去台北市政府的

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圖書館

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no way

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所以文學逗留背影是從這裡來的

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嗎

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是從圖書館來

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然後覺得圖書館很無聊

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因為那時候他其實是一天大概

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只有頂多兩個人進去的一個

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圖書館

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哪裡的圖書館

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對他在台北市公務人員訓練中心

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他有點象是我知道那裡辛亥路嗎

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對

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我以前住那附近

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在萬方社區捷運站再上去

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他那不是那裡

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對

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但是其實就是往那邊上去了

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對

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然後所以就在那邊排書其實也沒

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乾嘛

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你看你是全職在那邊

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你那時候已經退伍

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那時候在當一般T大姨

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對

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研發替代役不是就T帶一碗

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然後所有的研發替代我當了一半

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然後你就老跑

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然後就轉到一般我懂我知道我有

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聽說過這種例子

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這種例子只能轉一次

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你如果再下一次不滿意

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就只好再回去成功零對不對

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我記得好像總之你會蠻慘的

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如果你沒有轉彎

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然後很順利的退伍的話

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聽說了中間是先轉了

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反正我當兵很奇怪

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反正先研發替代

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然後後面去當了兩個三個禮拜的

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警察

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一我是淡水取締違規停車

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你是我聽過軍旅生涯最奇特的

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你知道嗎

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我已經夠奇特

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我在環保局檢舉煙蒂這樣子

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好

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然後後來其實警察一事

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因為凡所有研發替代E要轉其他

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的兵役

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統統都要經過警察或消防2選1

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這樣

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然後再幫你轉到這麼痛苦

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是哪一間內湖和公司的這麼不

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開心

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沒有還好

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是不是有人欺負你

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我們不要說是哪一家公司

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但是呆著不習慣

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就覺得可以換了這樣子

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好

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我們等下收機器以後再問

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剪掉剪掉

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這個真的一定是你進去的時候跟

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人家說你是台大的被升職的

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我跟你講不能讓人家知道

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我跟你講

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你知道我去當兵的時候

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我真的很感謝有一個我已經忘記

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是誰的人警告我說你千萬不要跟

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別人說你是博士畢業

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你只要說你小學畢業就真的在

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成功里的時候

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有一次人家會問說小學畢業舉手

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剛剛畢業舉手

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大學畢業的舉手

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然後到最後問到博士

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還真的有人舉手

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就表示那個人博士畢業嗎

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我跟你講

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他那幾個月生不如死

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他就一直笑他I博士來打菜這種

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你知道嗎

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還好我就是小學畢業

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然後國中畢業我就放下了

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我後來去T大一的時候也是我一

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開始就非常低調

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我完全沒有讓人家知道我的背景

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會什麼

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但有一天不知道是誰去調查

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然後走漏出來就是我博士畢業

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我那時候變得非常的痛苦

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真的我理解你的感受

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我看到你嘆一口氣了

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所以不過現在台灣的兵役稍微

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比較時間短了

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然後而且嘔吐NTV真替Q也

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很多

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所以已經不是太大的問題

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我們就不用太多聊

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所以就講到你去圖書館

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然後就當到17結束

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然後那段時間你一邊在看書

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然後有時候會不小心翻到區塊鏈

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輸這麼偏僻的圖書館

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我有去看

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說你騙誰

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我沒有去看書

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覺得那時候其實就一部分是

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莫名其妙接到狗狗肉的電話

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他就說要不要這邊做電池這樣子

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然後那時候就對那時候覺得好像

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不錯

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現在Google市佔率5破申

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部分車累

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就覺得應該是要這麼做

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然後但是另外一部分就是我一個

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研究所的損友

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然後來我家放礦機

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你書到底讀了沒

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你已經還沒修完

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還沒讀書

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就被強勢放入樂觀的時候幣價在

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漲

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然後那朋友他大概多少錢的時候

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是217年17年8月的錯

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完全是四五百塊這樣

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而且還繼續往上

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然後所以他就說因為他已經在某

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學校的研究室放滿了

395
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然後他說你家有用不完的電費幾

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句

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結果放一下你那邊這樣子

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他還幫你算

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他說你因為他知道我之前有找他

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來我家

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然後我就跟他說我家電費好便宜

402
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我為什麼什麼叫電費

403
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你是自己租房子嗎

404
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但是我那邊因為替代E為什麼

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可以自己租房子

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你是不是用了什麼怪招

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就是住社會住宅

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是嗎

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你那時候注射會助長

410
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現在還是住社會住宅

411
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然後台北市反正是掙得正當得正

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對有社會住宅新的

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然後所以我就一個人住

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你現在是科粉

415
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or還是我想還好我們不要講

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政治

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對

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我覺得這個政策不錯

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你住在社會住宅

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任何政治人物都歡迎繼續社會

421
00:14:02,910 --> 00:14:03,840
住宅的政策

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00:14:03,850 --> 00:14:04,110
對不對

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他真的有一個額度就對

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其實所有人的家裡的電費其實

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00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,520
都是從一點多快136塊之類的

426
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還是163塊一度電開始起跳

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00:14:14,980 --> 00:14:17,510
然後錢240度就是這個一點多

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塊的電費

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所以大家不要覺得他們很邪惡

430
00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,230
因為可能明恩一直都不在家

431
00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,130
或是在家用電量非常少

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所以放了一個礦機也還OK也

433
00:14:26,310 --> 00:14:29,430
不過就幾張行卡的第12章章

434
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然後我要幫你講話

435
00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:33,400
你還自己對不對

436
00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,820
不知道大家在底下留言

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社會住宅我自己付的錢

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00:14:38,770 --> 00:14:40,580
對就是電費

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00:14:40,770 --> 00:14:42,370
只是放那兩個月

440
00:14:42,380 --> 00:14:45,770
我家的電費就從兩個月大概五六

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00:14:45,780 --> 00:14:46,570
百塊

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變成下兩個月的5000多塊

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00:14:49,910 --> 00:14:51,990
no way你不是被他騙了

444
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所以我就跟他說電費那麼貴

445
00:14:54,990 --> 00:14:57,660
就是負一點以太幣來挖到了分我

446
00:14:57,670 --> 00:14:58,450
一點這樣子

447
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那時候你應該還OK

448
00:15:01,250 --> 00:15:01,540
對

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00:15:01,550 --> 00:15:04,410
那時候比較流行大家自己挖礦這

450
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樣子

451
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但是那時候其實我對比特幣跟以

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太幣沒有那麼熟

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00:15:07,690 --> 00:15:10,280
所以你的第1筆太B是從朋友分

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00:15:10,290 --> 00:15:11,310
他到底有沒有芬尼

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因為那時候我還不會開錢包

456
00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,420
然後反正我就說你煩你幫我弄好

457
00:15:15,430 --> 00:15:17,300
然後告訴我我怎麼拿到那個錢

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然後我怎麼換成現金

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這樣

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後來然後他就幫我開號

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00:15:20,690 --> 00:15:23,740
因為他其實也是出境到某個礦池

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裡面去

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對

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現在就是到在我錢包裡面是你的

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初體驗是被強制植入的

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00:15:30,780 --> 00:15:31,490
對

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00:15:31,500 --> 00:15:34,440
我說不要放我家

468
00:15:34,450 --> 00:15:36,130
她說我已經在你家樓下了

469
00:15:36,140 --> 00:15:39,180
然後什麼樣的朋友這麼有趣

470
00:15:39,190 --> 00:15:41,510
我們還沒找他還上街

471
00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,370
他現在還在第鏈圈嗎

472
00:15:43,380 --> 00:15:46,230
他現在玩電機所跑去讀醫學系去

473
00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,170
真的假真的很有趣

474
00:15:48,180 --> 00:15:50,030
莫名其妙的人你可以找他

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你覺得我們邀她

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她有點宅那很好

477
00:15:53,270 --> 00:15:54,190
我也很窄

478
00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,660
因為你說叫他去洗過澡再過來

479
00:15:56,660 --> 00:15:57,140
好

480
00:15:57,150 --> 00:16:00,050
所以等於就是說那個時候開始

481
00:16:00,060 --> 00:16:01,000
感到好奇

482
00:16:01,010 --> 00:16:01,660
對

483
00:16:01,670 --> 00:16:04,740
然後那時候就開始想說天一一台

484
00:16:04,750 --> 00:16:05,730
機器放在我家

485
00:16:05,740 --> 00:16:07,540
然後但是我不太知道他到底怎麼

486
00:16:07,550 --> 00:16:07,920
運作

487
00:16:07,930 --> 00:16:09,710
反正他就說會一台B出來

488
00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:10,540
然後還會賺錢

489
00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:11,460
他會發大財

490
00:16:11,470 --> 00:16:11,650
張

491
00:16:11,660 --> 00:16:13,440
然後我就說怎麼回事

492
00:16:13,450 --> 00:16:14,550
聽起來像印鈔機一樣

493
00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:15,160
我就自己去看

494
00:16:15,170 --> 00:16:16,770
然後看了之後就有點看不懂

495
00:16:16,780 --> 00:16:18,220
一定看不懂的

496
00:16:18,230 --> 00:16:20,170
網絡都亂翻

497
00:16:20,180 --> 00:16:22,790
以太坊以太幣全部亂七亂七八糟

498
00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:23,840
翻在一起

499
00:16:23,850 --> 00:16:27,350
然後所以我就想說天太大打擊了

500
00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,130
我讀了4年電機系加三年的

501
00:16:29,140 --> 00:16:29,610
電子鎖

502
00:16:29,620 --> 00:16:30,710
然後結果我看不懂

503
00:16:30,710 --> 00:16:33,160
這種技術的東西

504
00:16:33,170 --> 00:16:35,620
然後就想說我要研究一下

505
00:16:35,630 --> 00:16:35,890
對

506
00:16:35,900 --> 00:16:37,430
所以聽眾朋友如果聽到這裡

507
00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,640
你覺得我們兩個談得很興奮

508
00:16:39,650 --> 00:16:40,590
然後聽你聽不懂

509
00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:41,590
那有什麼是礦機

510
00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,970
有什麼叫做插進去電費變

511
00:16:43,980 --> 00:16:45,520
5000塊沒有關係

512
00:16:45,530 --> 00:16:47,350
因為我們你慢慢就會知道

513
00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,020
因為你看一個台大電子鎖

514
00:16:49,030 --> 00:16:51,830
別的人真的差了兩個月

515
00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,130
然後不知道自己在幹嗎

516
00:16:53,140 --> 00:16:54,380
然後電費還變很貴

517
00:16:54,390 --> 00:16:56,340
你當時也不知道什麼是礦機嗎

518
00:16:56,350 --> 00:16:57,330
我不知道我知道

519
00:16:57,340 --> 00:16:57,950
對

520
00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,310
然後所以其實我後來有比較好

521
00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:01,540
一點

522
00:17:01,550 --> 00:17:03,530
因為那是2017年的時候

523
00:17:03,540 --> 00:17:06,870
後來最近才發現說把所有事情連

524
00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:07,000
起來

525
00:17:07,010 --> 00:17:08,890
就是2015年我研究所畢業的

526
00:17:08,900 --> 00:17:09,500
時候

527
00:17:09,510 --> 00:17:11,170
就一台方才剛出來

528
00:17:11,410 --> 00:17:11,700
對吧

529
00:17:11,710 --> 00:17:13,960
然後過兩年沒有發現

530
00:17:13,970 --> 00:17:15,060
其實也算蠻正常的

531
00:17:15,070 --> 00:17:16,360
就是這種新的東西

532
00:17:16,370 --> 00:17:18,610
然後過兩年之後他才出現

533
00:17:18,620 --> 00:17:21,960
所以我就覺得現在所有人在聽

534
00:17:21,970 --> 00:17:22,220
不懂

535
00:17:22,230 --> 00:17:23,960
一台比一台放棄還蠻正常的

536
00:17:23,970 --> 00:17:26,230
就是算到現在其實也才4年左右

537
00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,840
礦機的故事你自己在節目里有講

538
00:17:28,850 --> 00:17:29,730
過嗎

539
00:17:29,730 --> 00:17:31,380
我也很常收你的信

540
00:17:31,390 --> 00:17:32,620
我說我沒印象

541
00:17:32,630 --> 00:17:35,880
我皆自我介紹的時候有稍微說過

542
00:17:35,890 --> 00:17:36,580
之前偶爾

543
00:17:36,590 --> 00:17:37,440
但是可能很短

544
00:17:37,450 --> 00:17:38,820
沒有被逼問得那麼多了

545
00:17:38,830 --> 00:17:40,830
我們不你那時候可能沒講電費從

546
00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:41,650
500變5000

547
00:17:41,660 --> 00:17:46,080
那我能不能因為區塊是一直很

548
00:17:46,090 --> 00:17:49,080
自詡為說白話的去賣媒體

549
00:17:49,230 --> 00:17:50,770
能不能跟寶博朋友說的

550
00:17:50,780 --> 00:17:52,900
千萬聽眾也不知道哪裡來

551
00:17:52,910 --> 00:17:53,470
請問

552
00:17:54,020 --> 00:17:57,810
用白話說明一下什麼是礦機

553
00:17:57,820 --> 00:17:58,580
OK

554
00:17:58,590 --> 00:18:00,990
我覺得它很像是印鈔機

555
00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,430
所以一般人來說

556
00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,120
你把電腦放在那邊

557
00:18:04,130 --> 00:18:05,560
然後他就會印東西出來

558
00:18:05,570 --> 00:18:07,410
只是你會說那錢到底從哪裡來的

559
00:18:07,420 --> 00:18:08,650
為什麼你電腦放在那邊

560
00:18:08,660 --> 00:18:10,620
他就會他前就一直跳出來

561
00:18:10,630 --> 00:18:12,640
我就會說那挖礦既然是礦機

562
00:18:12,650 --> 00:18:15,180
就有點像是鼓譟時候那種黃金礦

563
00:18:15,190 --> 00:18:15,660
坑

564
00:18:15,730 --> 00:18:18,200
裡面的礦工你付出勞力

565
00:18:18,210 --> 00:18:20,490
你就可以獲得黃金來作為回報

566
00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,620
現在21世紀大家都是沒有在用

567
00:18:23,630 --> 00:18:24,140
勞力

568
00:18:24,150 --> 00:18:25,090
而是用電腦

569
00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:28,200
所以我們奴役這些電腦去幫我們

570
00:18:28,210 --> 00:18:28,800
挖礦

571
00:18:28,810 --> 00:18:31,780
然後拿到比特幣或一台幣

572
00:18:31,990 --> 00:18:34,470
然後所以大家會說這是數位的

573
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,170
黃金嗎

574
00:18:35,180 --> 00:18:35,750
比如說比特

575
00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,570
比如說所謂的黃金結盟程度是

576
00:18:37,580 --> 00:18:37,840
這樣

577
00:18:38,060 --> 00:18:41,940
這台被奴役的電腦有做任何實有

578
00:18:41,950 --> 00:18:43,620
實質意義的工作

579
00:18:43,630 --> 00:18:45,410
因為其實我現在出去演講

580
00:18:45,420 --> 00:18:47,260
我都會把它放一張照片

581
00:18:47,270 --> 00:18:49,100
我那時候拋了一張真的有照片

582
00:18:49,110 --> 00:18:53,480
有他就是在我的陽台的洗衣機的

583
00:18:53,490 --> 00:18:54,150
旁邊

584
00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,190
這樣實際上日曬雨淋可以嗎

585
00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,400
會稍微簡單週一下

586
00:18:58,410 --> 00:18:59,190
對

587
00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,180
但是無所謂的

588
00:19:00,190 --> 00:19:00,600
為什麼

589
00:19:00,610 --> 00:19:03,300
因為放到家裡會很熱

590
00:19:03,310 --> 00:19:05,220
然後又很吵風扇

591
00:19:05,230 --> 00:19:09,300
12張顯卡同步全速運轉吵死

592
00:19:09,310 --> 00:19:11,770
所以那時候想說冬天我可以把它

593
00:19:11,780 --> 00:19:12,080
拿進來

594
00:19:12,090 --> 00:19:14,160
但是那時候七八月冬天拿出來

595
00:19:14,170 --> 00:19:14,830
取暖

596
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,850
對你真的要拿進來

597
00:19:16,860 --> 00:19:17,330
對

598
00:19:17,340 --> 00:19:19,100
然後而且那時候我朋友跟我說

599
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,460
你不要擔心電費

600
00:19:21,470 --> 00:19:23,100
你現在四五千塊

601
00:19:23,110 --> 00:19:25,710
明年我沒放電費的

602
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,930
節電獎勵你可以領很多

603
00:19:27,940 --> 00:19:28,300
我靠

604
00:19:28,310 --> 00:19:29,300
他也太屌了

605
00:19:29,310 --> 00:19:31,720
好好可以

606
00:19:31,730 --> 00:19:34,440
這個人真的是社會害課

607
00:19:34,450 --> 00:19:36,080
真的太扯了

608
00:19:36,090 --> 00:19:37,320
所以大概是這樣

609
00:19:37,330 --> 00:19:39,290
然後我就開始研究區塊鏈到底

610
00:19:39,300 --> 00:19:39,970
什麼東西

611
00:19:39,970 --> 00:19:43,630
我是先從比特幣的論文開始看起

612
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,120
因為研究所的專業看盾文章

613
00:19:47,130 --> 00:19:49,130
然後快速的看完論文

614
00:19:49,140 --> 00:19:50,990
看到F然後看看QQ炫

615
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,110
然後中間不看的

616
00:19:52,690 --> 00:19:53,720
我是看說圖

617
00:19:53,730 --> 00:19:58,400
然後所以我就很快把中本從9頁

618
00:19:58,410 --> 00:19:59,480
的論文看完這樣

619
00:19:59,690 --> 00:20:03,330
我以前在家裡讀大學的時候就

620
00:20:03,340 --> 00:20:04,300
已經很喜歡

621
00:20:04,310 --> 00:20:06,330
只要回家我家在台南

622
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,100
然後回家我就跟我爸媽說

623
00:20:08,110 --> 00:20:10,760
我在學校學到電機系學到什麼

624
00:20:10,770 --> 00:20:11,310
東西

625
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,380
但是我跟他們講工程數學他們

626
00:20:13,390 --> 00:20:13,800
不懂

627
00:20:13,810 --> 00:20:17,040
然後所以要想辦法跟他們解釋

628
00:20:17,050 --> 00:20:17,290
一下

629
00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:19,150
就是說現在科技發展的進展

630
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,540
那麼所以從大學開始

631
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,110
我就已經很習慣跟這種爸媽也是

632
00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:27,770
說專業知識到底在乾嘛

633
00:20:27,780 --> 00:20:30,400
老媽能解對老嫗這樣子

634
00:20:30,410 --> 00:20:31,380
他不老嗎

635
00:20:31,390 --> 00:20:34,530
老遇到意思更老中文行不行

636
00:20:34,540 --> 00:20:36,020
對

637
00:20:36,030 --> 00:20:38,670
然後所以我就跟他們說這件事

638
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,960
其實後來發現不止喜歡跟爸媽說

639
00:20:41,970 --> 00:20:44,940
我也喜歡跟身邊的就是商學院

640
00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:47,480
管理學院拿的朋友就不是理工

641
00:20:47,490 --> 00:20:48,860
背景的人說

642
00:20:48,870 --> 00:20:51,160
那就是電腦到底怎麼做的這樣

643
00:20:51,170 --> 00:20:53,280
所以其實不只是區塊鏈

644
00:20:53,290 --> 00:20:55,940
你其實從以前就有去跟別人白話

645
00:20:55,950 --> 00:20:56,960
解釋你在乾嘛

646
00:20:56,970 --> 00:20:57,080
對

647
00:20:57,090 --> 00:20:59,000
我覺得還蠻喜歡做這件事

648
00:20:59,010 --> 00:21:01,700
所以你後來又回去跟老媽解釋那

649
00:21:01,710 --> 00:21:04,220
一台區塊鏈礦機嗎

650
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:06,160
礦機就跳過

651
00:21:06,170 --> 00:21:07,380
對

652
00:21:07,630 --> 00:21:10,480
但我跟他講中本聰的論文有跟他

653
00:21:10,490 --> 00:21:11,690
說去快店怎麼運動

654
00:21:11,700 --> 00:21:15,150
然後我今年的紅包其實是用明恩

655
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:15,950
幣發給他們

656
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:16,750
真的假的

657
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,350
你是詐騙他們那時候就SU然後

658
00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:22,500
所以就想說OK好紅包

659
00:21:22,510 --> 00:21:23,270
不知道包什麼

660
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,310
然後我知道發明恩幣很容易

661
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,010
40塊50塊台幣的智慧合約的

662
00:21:29,020 --> 00:21:30,100
手續費就可以了

663
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,920
那就一人發3600克明

664
00:21:31,930 --> 00:21:32,880
你發出去的時候

665
00:21:32,890 --> 00:21:34,940
你爸媽的表情是什麼

666
00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:35,240
沒有

667
00:21:35,250 --> 00:21:37,980
我就跟他說我想到一個很不錯的

668
00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:38,540
東西

669
00:21:38,550 --> 00:21:39,900
然後一個人來

670
00:21:39,910 --> 00:21:41,870
你們先安裝錢包

671
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,620
如果我已經覺得是超不孝

672
00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:46,160
然後就說愛著他

673
00:21:46,170 --> 00:21:48,870
他就問我說這名nb到能幹嘛

674
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,500
我說丟樂瑟丟了時候100顆養

675
00:21:51,510 --> 00:21:52,760
了29年

676
00:21:52,770 --> 00:21:54,000
現在要丟個了

677
00:21:54,010 --> 00:21:56,520
sir要叫我明恩

678
00:21:56,530 --> 00:21:57,680
有沒有搞錯

679
00:21:57,690 --> 00:22:01,130
然後所以就類似這樣就跟爸媽

680
00:22:01,140 --> 00:22:01,500
解釋

681
00:22:01,510 --> 00:22:03,410
我覺得這個東西比較容易理解

682
00:22:03,420 --> 00:22:05,690
因為你之前在跟她們說比特幣在

683
00:22:05,700 --> 00:22:06,030
乾嘛

684
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,750
他跟我說那不是股票嗎

685
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:08,000
知道吧

686
00:22:08,010 --> 00:22:09,230
你有沒有回去查一下

687
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,880
戀上記錄會不會錢包到現在還是

688
00:22:11,890 --> 00:22:13,320
3600個

689
00:22:13,330 --> 00:22:15,070
應該是現在他們沒有花

690
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,910
你都沒有他們到認識好嗎

691
00:22:16,910 --> 00:22:18,220
好啦

692
00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:21,080
明恩一直有一個蠻有趣的過程

693
00:22:21,090 --> 00:22:24,870
其實每個人接觸到區塊鏈科技都

694
00:22:24,970 --> 00:22:26,650
我覺得那個過程都挺有趣的

695
00:22:26,660 --> 00:22:28,390
像我是在起點大學

696
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,810
像你是被強制放入了礦機

697
00:22:32,090 --> 00:22:33,000
其實還有很多人

698
00:22:33,010 --> 00:22:34,550
我們在節目裡面都訪問過

699
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,960
大家接觸到的時間點都不一樣

700
00:22:37,300 --> 00:22:38,590
大家如果回想一下

701
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,750
你是什麼時候第1次接觸到網絡

702
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,390
你第1次接觸到電腦

703
00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:44,970
其實區塊鏈真的是一個這麼有趣

704
00:22:44,980 --> 00:22:46,920
而且這麼有潛力的東西

705
00:22:46,930 --> 00:22:49,370
也希望大家也許有些地方朋友是

706
00:22:49,380 --> 00:22:51,540
通過寶博朋友說第1次接觸到區

707
00:22:51,550 --> 00:22:52,020
塊鏈

708
00:22:52,030 --> 00:22:53,970
我不會把礦機放在你家

709
00:22:53,980 --> 00:22:55,180
大家不用緊張

710
00:22:55,340 --> 00:22:56,620
但是至少一個新的東西

711
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:57,680
大家可以聽聽看

712
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,870
所以我們知道你那時候就開始對

713
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,780
去看科技或者技術或思維模式有

714
00:23:05,790 --> 00:23:06,400
興趣

715
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,160
什麼樣的機緣讓你決定選擇用

716
00:23:09,170 --> 00:23:09,810
Podcast

717
00:23:09,820 --> 00:23:11,310
你乾嘛不直接作 YouTuber?

718
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,230
你顏值也不錯

719
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,280
對不對

720
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,870
又會講話又會寫

721
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,250
對

722
00:23:16,260 --> 00:23:18,190
那時候先會寫文章

723
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,890
然後後來就想說

724
00:23:20,130 --> 00:23:22,590
就有很多的公司他們會發現說你

725
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,140
有的寫文章

726
00:23:23,150 --> 00:23:25,350
你可以幫我們葉配配對

727
00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:27,580
就是你可不可以偷偷植入

728
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:30,070
因為喜很多都沒有人遭業費

729
00:23:30,140 --> 00:23:33,160
然後我就說但是我們付費的內容

730
00:23:33,170 --> 00:23:34,730
我只收會員的錢

731
00:23:34,740 --> 00:23:36,810
然後所以我就保證不會也配

732
00:23:36,820 --> 00:23:39,320
所以頂多我們吃飯聊聊天

733
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,590
後來就突然搶道

734
00:23:41,250 --> 00:23:43,600
可以把我們聊天的內容中間放個

735
00:23:43,610 --> 00:23:44,390
麥克風

736
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,800
所以不葉配的是文章

737
00:23:47,910 --> 00:23:50,330
然後怕case就可以葉配也

738
00:23:50,340 --> 00:23:52,270
然後其實現在他開始也沒有液

739
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,140
配對

740
00:23:53,150 --> 00:23:55,630
然後就只是說大家去找他聊聊天

741
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,690
寫了幾集之後開始做park

742
00:23:58,700 --> 00:23:59,860
自己還記得嗎

743
00:23:59,860 --> 00:24:02,410
大概快要280 200篇

744
00:24:02,420 --> 00:24:03,570
對快要200篇

745
00:24:03,570 --> 00:24:06,800
前面一年的產量比較多一點

746
00:24:06,810 --> 00:24:08,380
一個禮拜有時候三篇

747
00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:11,340
有時候到多的時候到我印象非常

748
00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:11,940
深刻

749
00:24:11,950 --> 00:24:14,130
就是我自己也寫文章

750
00:24:14,140 --> 00:24:15,860
但我是三五個月寫一篇

751
00:24:15,870 --> 00:24:17,700
然後那時候看你這樣一個禮拜寫

752
00:24:17,710 --> 00:24:18,320
兩三篇

753
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,200
我覺得腦漿真的會乾掉

754
00:24:21,210 --> 00:24:24,700
真的會完全是一種馬拉松式的

755
00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:25,920
寫作方法

756
00:24:25,930 --> 00:24:26,100
對

757
00:24:26,110 --> 00:24:27,980
我覺得真的還蠻累的

758
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:31,320
然後所以我通常寫完的當下

759
00:24:31,330 --> 00:24:33,640
我就要癱在床上一整天的

760
00:24:33,650 --> 00:24:35,510
划算嗎

761
00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:36,450
我能不能問

762
00:24:36,460 --> 00:24:38,810
就是說到那個時候200多篇

763
00:24:38,820 --> 00:24:41,530
然後付費訂閱的人數就一個

764
00:24:41,540 --> 00:24:44,200
你給我一個認去叫破千破百或者

765
00:24:44,210 --> 00:24:46,410
是破付費訂閱的人

766
00:24:46,420 --> 00:24:49,200
其實一直都不到1000區塊鏈

767
00:24:49,210 --> 00:24:51,670
領域他真的願意

768
00:24:51,670 --> 00:24:52,640
有興趣的人

769
00:24:52,650 --> 00:24:55,400
其實很多流免費訂閱的到現在

770
00:24:55,410 --> 00:24:56,470
非常多

771
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,560
到現在還是1000

772
00:24:57,570 --> 00:24:58,420
現在到現在不到1000

773
00:24:58,430 --> 00:25:01,940
科技導讀他們我其實不知道他們

774
00:25:01,950 --> 00:25:02,540
明確的數字

775
00:25:02,550 --> 00:25:04,970
但是他們應該是之前就說他們破

776
00:25:04,980 --> 00:25:05,490
千了

777
00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:06,440
對

778
00:25:06,450 --> 00:25:09,470
所以因為他的領域很要讀

779
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,550
因為區塊鏈算是科技領域的一個

780
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,010
集合

781
00:25:12,020 --> 00:25:12,810
對

782
00:25:12,820 --> 00:25:16,210
但是這兩個領域我看起來就是說

783
00:25:16,430 --> 00:25:18,820
去快店想要知道的人其實蠻多的

784
00:25:18,830 --> 00:25:21,490
所以我們收到非常多的免費的

785
00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:22,310
訂閱EMAIL

786
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,020
就是幾千七八千

787
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,490
然後但是願意付費的人還沒有

788
00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:26,770
那麼多

789
00:25:26,780 --> 00:25:29,030
當然另外一部分大家可能沒有

790
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:29,970
那麼有興趣

791
00:25:29,980 --> 00:25:31,230
或者是我不是寫投資

792
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,410
如果我改成斜投資

793
00:25:32,420 --> 00:25:35,850
可能大家就覺得行投資會出事

794
00:25:35,860 --> 00:25:36,130
對

795
00:25:36,140 --> 00:25:38,280
所以而且其實我也不會投資

796
00:25:38,290 --> 00:25:40,270
我每每投資B失敗這樣的時候

797
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,850
因為你都沒有來問我沒有我也

798
00:25:43,860 --> 00:25:44,820
沒有比較厲害

799
00:25:44,830 --> 00:25:45,520
對

800
00:25:45,530 --> 00:25:49,810
所以你有沒有想過讓你的寫作

801
00:25:49,820 --> 00:25:52,210
內容或者是park跟企業有

802
00:25:52,220 --> 00:25:53,350
一個長期的關係

803
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:54,890
有點像安tab plus的

804
00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:56,810
訂購這種有想過嗎

805
00:25:56,810 --> 00:25:57,550
確實有

806
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,440
因為最近後來才慢慢的開始理清

807
00:26:00,450 --> 00:26:00,890
這件事情

808
00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:03,690
就是說其實所有的新的東西開始

809
00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:06,240
都不會是一般大眾對這個東西有

810
00:26:06,250 --> 00:26:06,480
興趣

811
00:26:06,490 --> 00:26:08,060
因為區塊鏈這麼抽象

812
00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:09,560
反而一開始有興趣的其實都是

813
00:26:09,570 --> 00:26:10,200
企業

814
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,150
其實我現在有很多訂閱者都是

815
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:12,830
那些

816
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,470
可是他定一個月這樣子

817
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,310
幾百然後幾百塊而已

818
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,480
然後有的企業他可能是用命

819
00:26:18,490 --> 00:26:21,660
然後什麼東西我傳到了企業內部

820
00:26:21,670 --> 00:26:22,150
平台

821
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,100
其實這樣我真是沒有辦法

822
00:26:25,110 --> 00:26:28,650
我鼓勵大家就是說一個人用一個

823
00:26:28,660 --> 00:26:30,050
因為才200多塊而已

824
00:26:30,060 --> 00:26:30,470
不要這樣

825
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:30,720
對

826
00:26:30,730 --> 00:26:32,650
應該有一個幫豆對不對

827
00:26:32,650 --> 00:26:34,990
可能多少人聽這樣

828
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,950
現在其實有企業定沒錯

829
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,500
但是也不是很美

830
00:26:40,510 --> 00:26:42,500
每間企業都願意做這件事情

831
00:26:42,510 --> 00:26:44,110
你說大家定天下雜誌

832
00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:45,590
大家會覺得OK

833
00:26:45,660 --> 00:26:48,250
但是你說定區塊是大家就覺得這

834
00:26:48,260 --> 00:26:49,080
是什麼東西

835
00:26:49,090 --> 00:26:50,950
目前還沒有真正那麼苦

836
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,030
可能也在想

837
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,770
但是吃得飽就對了啦

838
00:26:53,780 --> 00:26:54,720
吃得飽OK OK

839
00:26:54,730 --> 00:26:57,520
所以其實跟之前的工程師的收入

840
00:26:57,530 --> 00:26:58,570
其實差不多的這樣

841
00:26:58,570 --> 00:26:59,550
很不錯

842
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,810
我覺得OK沒有那麼淒涼

843
00:27:01,820 --> 00:27:03,970
但是台灣的工程師收入太低了

844
00:27:03,980 --> 00:27:06,810
也是你不能跟台灣工程師比

845
00:27:06,820 --> 00:27:07,520
也是

846
00:27:07,530 --> 00:27:10,670
然後但是就沒有辦法做太長期的

847
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,170
規劃

848
00:27:11,180 --> 00:27:12,550
我覺得這其實是我自己

849
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,910
目前我倒不太介意說我沒有那種

850
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,350
發大財的夢

851
00:27:16,350 --> 00:27:19,460
但是我是覺得如果我有更多的

852
00:27:19,470 --> 00:27:19,740
資源

853
00:27:19,750 --> 00:27:20,920
更多的人來訂閱的話

854
00:27:20,930 --> 00:27:23,280
我可以說我們接下來三個月我們

855
00:27:23,290 --> 00:27:26,510
要怎麼讓大家體驗多一點或者

856
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,060
怎麼樣

857
00:27:27,070 --> 00:27:29,710
這是有更多資源可以做

858
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,690
更多的是這樣

859
00:27:30,700 --> 00:27:32,370
其實聽眾朋友聽到這邊應該就

860
00:27:32,380 --> 00:27:32,610
知道

861
00:27:32,620 --> 00:27:36,750
你們正在見證歷史上台灣區塊鏈

862
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,590
歷史上很重要的一課

863
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,740
因為以前好像只有區塊是一個

864
00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:45,940
這種怕case的為主的區塊鏈

865
00:27:45,950 --> 00:27:49,770
媒體應該是我沒有漏掉誰是然後

866
00:27:49,780 --> 00:27:52,610
寶博士我不算專門做區塊鏈

867
00:27:52,620 --> 00:27:54,910
因為我節目叫做寶博朋友說我

868
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:55,620
什麼都聊

869
00:27:55,630 --> 00:27:59,180
只不過我還是比較熱切的想要多

870
00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:59,950
聊點區塊鏈

871
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:02,960
所以這是牛也會的區塊鏈系列

872
00:28:02,970 --> 00:28:05,900
我想說你的朋友都去快店領域

873
00:28:05,910 --> 00:28:06,410
沒有

874
00:28:06,420 --> 00:28:08,470
我也是人好嗎

875
00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:09,800
我是正常人

876
00:28:09,810 --> 00:28:10,470
OK

877
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,950
我有很多朋友

878
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,430
但是我們今天這個行為

879
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,620
這算是一種第1次兩個區塊鏈的

880
00:28:17,630 --> 00:28:18,390
內容

881
00:28:18,450 --> 00:28:19,830
的創作者

882
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,530
然後有一個這樣交談的機會

883
00:28:22,540 --> 00:28:23,570
很好

884
00:28:23,790 --> 00:28:25,860
另外一個重點就是互稱一下

885
00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:28,330
互稱一下粉這樣

886
00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:30,090
所以請寶博朋友說

887
00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:34,130
千萬聽眾朋友千萬記得上網

888
00:28:34,140 --> 00:28:36,230
Google一下區塊是趨勢的

889
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,830
是區塊我就不用講了

890
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,440
區域就是區域的區好吧

891
00:28:39,450 --> 00:28:43,160
一塊兩塊的塊區塊是我自己有

892
00:28:43,170 --> 00:28:44,180
訂閱了

893
00:28:44,190 --> 00:28:44,780
付費不知道

894
00:28:44,790 --> 00:28:45,780
沒有停掉

895
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,820
但是真的很不錯

896
00:28:48,830 --> 00:28:53,000
他是真的用人生在用生命在推廣

897
00:28:53,010 --> 00:28:53,490
科技

898
00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:55,010
或者是趙老高的講法

899
00:28:55,020 --> 00:28:55,850
就是思維

900
00:28:55,850 --> 00:28:57,200
其實真的非常不錯

901
00:28:57,210 --> 00:28:59,480
所以你也要記得在你的節目裡面

902
00:28:59,490 --> 00:29:01,430
是就推薦一下

903
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,420
我覺得一開始只有我一個人做

904
00:29:04,430 --> 00:29:05,740
你們一塊錢穆對

905
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:08,160
就覺得天哪這領域怎麼會沒有人

906
00:29:08,170 --> 00:29:10,870
大家都其實蠻多人會去上傳到U

907
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,590
Q但是我自己看了幾次

908
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:13,900
又去之後就會發現說

909
00:29:13,910 --> 00:29:16,300
因為就是一個很娛樂的地方

910
00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:17,520
我想休息

911
00:29:17,530 --> 00:29:19,060
結果你跟我講是區塊鏈

912
00:29:19,070 --> 00:29:20,030
我不想聽

913
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,000
對大家崩潰

914
00:29:21,010 --> 00:29:25,080
我在商岸上面收聽率都還不錯

915
00:29:25,090 --> 00:29:27,310
幾千幾萬這樣子亂講

916
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,110
但是比U就幾千萬

917
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,590
在I報給了

918
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,140
然後但又T我現在傳了幾集

919
00:29:35,150 --> 00:29:37,390
大家也意興闌珊

920
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,230
但我不管

921
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,240
反正我就繼續做

922
00:29:40,250 --> 00:29:41,810
而且有錄影對不對

923
00:29:41,820 --> 00:29:43,130
我來賓都那麼帥

924
00:29:43,130 --> 00:29:44,890
這次有錄影成功的話

925
00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:46,240
之後大家可以看到影像

926
00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:47,140
好啦

927
00:29:47,150 --> 00:29:51,850
所以總而言之區塊是聽說去美國

928
00:29:51,860 --> 00:29:52,660
壯游

929
00:29:52,670 --> 00:29:54,300
然後就要休息一陣子

930
00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:57,250
是對中間這一個月拉2019年

931
00:29:57,260 --> 00:29:58,220
12月的時候

932
00:29:58,230 --> 00:30:00,670
因為我一部分是辦網站

933
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,230
我把網站搬到另外一個平台去

934
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,670
另外一個是想說

935
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,420
因為其實你剛說的一個禮拜寫兩

936
00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:10,150
三篇文章

937
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,530
這其實是比較累的

938
00:30:11,540 --> 00:30:14,200
我覺得那個會造成你的人生的

939
00:30:14,210 --> 00:30:15,480
永久性創傷

940
00:30:15,490 --> 00:30:16,740
這不是蓋的

941
00:30:16,750 --> 00:30:19,100
大家真的是看你你要寫一篇

942
00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:20,260
言之有物的文章

943
00:30:20,270 --> 00:30:21,560
一個禮拜寫三篇

944
00:30:21,570 --> 00:30:23,180
真的是動彈不得

945
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:26,920
然後所以我就想說天要休息

946
00:30:26,930 --> 00:30:29,800
休息是為了走更長遠的路

947
00:30:29,810 --> 00:30:31,820
就某種程度最近我一直在想這件

948
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:31,960
事

949
00:30:31,970 --> 00:30:32,940
對休息一下

950
00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:34,740
然後所以我才能夠繼續下去

951
00:30:34,750 --> 00:30:37,560
但是我其實還蠻享受這種一直寫

952
00:30:37,570 --> 00:30:40,290
每次寫我就在寫過程中有一點

953
00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:41,530
學到新的東西

954
00:30:41,540 --> 00:30:42,610
這種速度感

955
00:30:42,610 --> 00:30:42,880
對

956
00:30:42,890 --> 00:30:44,160
我還蠻喜歡這種速度感的

957
00:30:44,170 --> 00:30:47,610
所以就希望說能夠繼續下去

958
00:30:47,620 --> 00:30:47,930
對

959
00:30:47,940 --> 00:30:48,750
所以中間要休息

960
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,010
所以現在是一個休息

961
00:30:50,020 --> 00:30:51,990
然後是只休息10天嗎

962
00:30:51,990 --> 00:30:55,190
還是你好像有公告說一個月月亮

963
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,110
休息一個月

964
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,410
但是去美國然後就回台灣應該是

965
00:30:58,420 --> 00:30:58,870
就去

966
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,350
然後去完之後就回來了

967
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,230
東海美西去舊金山跟洛杉磯第

968
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:04,610
1次去

969
00:31:04,620 --> 00:31:05,940
對我第1次去美國

970
00:31:06,190 --> 00:31:08,120
你上去都還算晚了

971
00:31:08,130 --> 00:31:08,690
對不對

972
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:09,670
對我覺得是

973
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,930
因為我就看很多朋友都已經有

974
00:31:11,940 --> 00:31:13,780
去過美國很多不同的地方

975
00:31:13,790 --> 00:31:16,260
然後但是我自己覺得有點慚愧的

976
00:31:16,270 --> 00:31:18,980
地方在於我很早就開始接觸

977
00:31:18,990 --> 00:31:21,160
從電機系開始就開始看科技

978
00:31:21,170 --> 00:31:23,830
但是我從來沒有去過溪谷

979
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:24,460
對

980
00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:28,630
然後從以前那種很講究細的細古

981
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,750
到現在很網路的戲骨

982
00:31:30,820 --> 00:31:31,640
從來都沒有去過

983
00:31:31,650 --> 00:31:34,420
所以想說這次去就在臉書上找

984
00:31:34,430 --> 00:31:35,100
一個朋友

985
00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:37,120
在蘋果在Google在臉書

986
00:31:37,130 --> 00:31:37,580
工作

987
00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:40,170
然後對寫文章有個好處

988
00:31:40,180 --> 00:31:42,070
因為會認識很多這些人

989
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,090
對我其實這次這樣來的

990
00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:48,550
其實我知道我的聽話朋友不一定

991
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,970
年齡層是怎麼樣

992
00:31:49,980 --> 00:31:51,890
如果你是比較年輕的

993
00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:54,390
我是真的很鼓勵你在20歲左右

994
00:31:54,660 --> 00:31:56,410
存一點錢打個工去

995
00:31:56,420 --> 00:31:57,940
美國機票沒多少錢

996
00:31:57,950 --> 00:31:58,800
3 35000

997
00:31:58,810 --> 00:32:01,060
貴的便宜的25000再便宜

998
00:32:01,070 --> 00:32:01,340
一點

999
00:32:01,350 --> 00:32:02,000
特價

1000
00:32:02,130 --> 00:32:03,060
對不對

1001
00:32:03,070 --> 00:32:04,080
一共有15000

1002
00:32:04,090 --> 00:32:05,600
你買15000是吧

1003
00:32:05,610 --> 00:32:08,500
哪一件航空公司想法

1004
00:32:08,910 --> 00:32:11,320
因為我比較喜歡倉容

1005
00:32:11,790 --> 00:32:13,020
鑫宇航空也不錯

1006
00:32:13,030 --> 00:32:14,030
但還沒有飛美國

1007
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,950
所以真的是我覺得以成本

1008
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,330
cost來講真的是還好了

1009
00:32:19,340 --> 00:32:21,760
然後你考取C是不是你好像很

1010
00:32:21,770 --> 00:32:24,050
喜歡去住人家家沙發

1011
00:32:24,060 --> 00:32:24,550
對

1012
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,450
我最近幾年很喜歡沙發重郎

1013
00:32:27,530 --> 00:32:27,660
對

1014
00:32:27,670 --> 00:32:29,350
然後去那邊

1015
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,150
然後跟不拍行程

1016
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:31,950
因為我懶得拍行

1017
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:32,910
我也沒時間拍行程

1018
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:33,280
我就去

1019
00:32:33,290 --> 00:32:35,490
然後他們就會說我們帶你去那邊

1020
00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:36,290
吃東西

1021
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:37,740
成本不會很高

1022
00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:40,330
我覺得兩三萬塊打死了10天

1023
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,690
然後我覺得真的是開眼界

1024
00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:45,890
我覺得天後如果你是年齡層再長

1025
00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:46,400
一點的

1026
00:32:46,410 --> 00:32:47,420
我覺得也是一樣

1027
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:49,990
如果你一直有個地方很想去

1028
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,610
尤其是像美國

1029
00:32:51,620 --> 00:32:52,420
我覺得大家好

1030
00:32:52,430 --> 00:32:55,720
現在看新聞看我們的知識提升

1031
00:32:55,730 --> 00:32:55,880
以後

1032
00:32:55,890 --> 00:32:58,500
我們發現其實很多我們對事物的

1033
00:32:58,510 --> 00:33:00,540
認知是被包裝出來的

1034
00:33:00,730 --> 00:33:01,880
像我第1次去美國

1035
00:33:01,890 --> 00:33:05,220
我就超級下call去下K就是

1036
00:33:05,230 --> 00:33:07,400
什麼美國怎麼跟好萊塢電影裡面

1037
00:33:07,410 --> 00:33:08,520
演的完全不一樣

1038
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,350
當然有些經驗我們下次早一起在

1039
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:11,790
聊

1040
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,610
但是我一直覺得早一點

1041
00:33:14,620 --> 00:33:16,310
尤其我們這個時代早一點

1042
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,850
佔住台灣去看更大的地方

1043
00:33:18,860 --> 00:33:20,270
我覺得這一點真的很重要

1044
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,390
而且我有一些很好的很優秀的

1045
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,210
創業家朋友

1046
00:33:24,220 --> 00:33:25,770
他們現在公司都幾十億的

1047
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,970
他們都很多都是那種20歲自己

1048
00:33:27,980 --> 00:33:28,480
存錢

1049
00:33:28,490 --> 00:33:30,560
一個人殺到溪谷去

1050
00:33:30,740 --> 00:33:31,920
而他也不知道找誰

1051
00:33:31,930 --> 00:33:34,050
他就是要去聞那裡的空氣

1052
00:33:34,060 --> 00:33:35,550
去看那裡的紅綠燈

1053
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,860
去感受那裡的感覺

1054
00:33:38,050 --> 00:33:39,260
我那時候聽到的時候

1055
00:33:39,270 --> 00:33:40,580
我已經快40歲

1056
00:33:41,170 --> 00:33:42,260
我覺得很後悔

1057
00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:44,700
我怎麼20歲之後沒做這件事情

1058
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:45,320
對不對

1059
00:33:45,330 --> 00:33:46,840
你像29歲去差不多

1060
00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:47,360
對

1061
00:33:47,370 --> 00:33:50,280
我這次去最大目的就是去那邊過

1062
00:33:50,290 --> 00:33:51,760
他們的聖誕節這樣過

1063
00:33:51,770 --> 00:33:52,680
對

1064
00:33:52,690 --> 00:33:54,640
為什麼48~28

1065
00:33:54,650 --> 00:33:55,690
然後中間25

1066
00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:58,330
然後中間會做一些影像記錄嗎

1067
00:33:58,340 --> 00:33:59,720
直播有

1068
00:33:59,730 --> 00:34:02,640
我考慮帶park去找那邊的人

1069
00:34:02,650 --> 00:34:03,020
錄音

1070
00:34:03,030 --> 00:34:06,130
這樣就找就像OK

1071
00:34:06,140 --> 00:34:06,700
總而言之

1072
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:08,170
我們今天節目有點長

1073
00:34:08,180 --> 00:34:09,530
其實聊得很開心

1074
00:34:09,540 --> 00:34:11,930
講到區塊鏈

1075
00:34:11,940 --> 00:34:14,250
台灣幾個媒體動區

1076
00:34:14,260 --> 00:34:15,710
然後不大case

1077
00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:19,730
然後區塊也是其中一個大家很常

1078
00:34:19,740 --> 00:34:20,510
提到的

1079
00:34:20,740 --> 00:34:22,730
然後我其實只是一個粉絲

1080
00:34:22,740 --> 00:34:25,510
我也沒有真的要弄什麼區塊鏈

1081
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,740
專業媒體太累了

1082
00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:28,160
膠給你弄就好了

1083
00:34:28,450 --> 00:34:30,190
但是也覺得機會難得

1084
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,390
然後我們兩個都在錄park

1085
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,290
然後你算前輩你錄幾集了

1086
00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:37,390
我現在大概快50

1087
00:34:37,620 --> 00:34:38,290
快50級

1088
00:34:38,300 --> 00:34:40,000
我現在才第12

1089
00:34:40,010 --> 00:34:41,820
因為其實我第1集就是找寶博士

1090
00:34:41,830 --> 00:34:43,180
來對吧

1091
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:47,340
我第1集就覺得天哪要找一個我

1092
00:34:47,350 --> 00:34:48,090
跟你講

1093
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:50,780
我常常去參加活動

1094
00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:52,180
然後講區塊鏈的時候

1095
00:34:52,190 --> 00:34:53,140
他說寶博士

1096
00:34:53,150 --> 00:34:56,020
我記得你我在那個區塊是畫面的

1097
00:34:56,030 --> 00:34:57,220
聽到我跟你講

1098
00:34:57,230 --> 00:35:00,120
現在很多人都對我的認定

1099
00:35:00,130 --> 00:35:03,400
就叫做上第1級區塊是的寶博士

1100
00:35:03,410 --> 00:35:04,170
你知道嗎

1101
00:35:04,180 --> 00:35:05,050
對

1102
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:05,830
對

1103
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,200
所以大家可以趁明恩休假一個月

1104
00:35:10,210 --> 00:35:10,700
的時候

1105
00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:12,300
趁這個月可以補足

1106
00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:13,920
你應該寫一篇文章

1107
00:35:13,930 --> 00:35:18,210
如果要趁這一個月追完之前所有

1108
00:35:18,220 --> 00:35:21,140
奇數的幾個重點的記憶好不好

1109
00:35:21,150 --> 00:35:22,880
整理一個整理一下

1110
00:35:22,890 --> 00:35:24,250
我覺得你的粉絲也會想聽

1111
00:35:24,260 --> 00:35:27,390
然後像寶博朋友說千萬粉絲對

1112
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:27,570
不對

1113
00:35:27,580 --> 00:35:30,480
大家也會想要看有沒有哪幾級最

1114
00:35:30,490 --> 00:35:32,500
重要的金華區

1115
00:35:32,510 --> 00:35:35,440
最後我們通常都會問一個通用的

1116
00:35:35,450 --> 00:35:36,190
問題

1117
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,990
你覺得未來世界會是什麼樣子

1118
00:35:40,060 --> 00:35:41,340
可以有關

1119
00:35:41,350 --> 00:35:42,730
可以跟區塊鏈沒有關係

1120
00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:44,450
跟區塊鏈有關

1121
00:35:44,460 --> 00:35:45,180
跟區外沒關

1122
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:47,680
我現在腦袋裡面好像只裝區塊鏈

1123
00:35:47,690 --> 00:35:47,960
登

1124
00:35:47,970 --> 00:35:48,200
對

1125
00:35:48,210 --> 00:35:50,120
那就根據案有關好了

1126
00:35:50,130 --> 00:35:52,330
但是感覺好像回答出來也會根據

1127
00:35:52,340 --> 00:35:52,840
快遞沒關

1128
00:35:52,850 --> 00:35:57,100
我先用是非體來引導

1129
00:35:57,110 --> 00:35:57,670
你

1130
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,800
覺得你還是看好區塊鏈

1131
00:35:59,810 --> 00:36:01,460
我看好你

1132
00:36:01,470 --> 00:36:04,110
剛前面說我用生命在賭這個人

1133
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,400
反正我這種我執牙來讀未必用

1134
00:36:06,410 --> 00:36:06,730
生命

1135
00:36:06,740 --> 00:36:09,540
但是其實是我只有看好他

1136
00:36:09,550 --> 00:36:11,820
我才要繼續花時間在這筆

1137
00:36:11,830 --> 00:36:13,990
我現在就全職在研究這個東西

1138
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,120
如果我就覺得他是個詐騙

1139
00:36:17,340 --> 00:36:19,650
我乾嘛花時間在詐騙上面

1140
00:36:19,660 --> 00:36:22,230
但是你的那位礦機朋友就撤退

1141
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:23,750
他就跑去當醫生

1142
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,860
你有沒有問他

1143
00:36:25,870 --> 00:36:27,130
他現在有在看

1144
00:36:27,140 --> 00:36:30,030
但是他現在就不是挖礦的司機

1145
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,140
他現在沒有套利的空間了

1146
00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:34,710
他喜歡短期的快感

1147
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:37,750
但是所以你長期還是看好你看見

1148
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,730
的區塊鏈的未來長什麼樣

1149
00:36:39,740 --> 00:36:41,990
我覺得現在看起來好像是這樣

1150
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,470
現在大家會覺得因為只要數位化

1151
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,150
越多

1152
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,250
就是我們的的生活日常生活

1153
00:36:48,260 --> 00:36:49,430
越來越數位化

1154
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,060
那去快點他就越來越重要

1155
00:36:51,060 --> 00:36:52,940
我目前的心得

1156
00:36:52,950 --> 00:36:56,240
但是如果我們的生活都還是實體

1157
00:36:56,250 --> 00:36:56,690
的世界

1158
00:36:56,700 --> 00:36:58,980
比如說我們很多紙本作業等等

1159
00:36:58,990 --> 00:36:59,290
東西

1160
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:01,490
這種時候就還看不出來它的

1161
00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:01,930
重要性

1162
00:37:01,940 --> 00:37:03,630
大家就覺得紙本作業做得還不錯

1163
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,250
但是當你有很多的數位東西要做

1164
00:37:07,260 --> 00:37:07,460
的時候

1165
00:37:07,470 --> 00:37:10,290
你就會發現說卡住

1166
00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:11,660
然後要花很多時間

1167
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:14,630
最明顯的例子就是銀行轉錢到

1168
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,160
美國去

1169
00:37:15,170 --> 00:37:17,130
可能假設如果要花兩天的時間

1170
00:37:17,140 --> 00:37:19,900
不如我現在帶著一筆錢搭飛機搭

1171
00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:21,270
華航去15000

1172
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,510
然後就可以的

1173
00:37:22,510 --> 00:37:27,190
所以我覺得這就是我們目前看到

1174
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,460
的數位化的卡關的地方

1175
00:37:29,470 --> 00:37:32,380
但是如果你不是站在比較遠的

1176
00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:32,910
地方

1177
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,360
就是站在比較未來的角度會來看

1178
00:37:35,370 --> 00:37:35,600
的話

1179
00:37:35,610 --> 00:37:37,830
你就會覺得現在生活也還不錯

1180
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,510
為什麼要用一個區塊鏈

1181
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,550
我覺得很多人都是這樣

1182
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,450
對

1183
00:37:42,460 --> 00:37:44,720
但是如果你會發現說現在其實

1184
00:37:44,730 --> 00:37:46,610
好像可以變得更好

1185
00:37:46,620 --> 00:37:48,350
為什麼我現在從台灣轉到美國

1186
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,530
就要花好幾個小時

1187
00:37:49,540 --> 00:37:51,810
而我現在穿Y給美國朋友

1188
00:37:51,820 --> 00:37:53,250
他就是下一秒就收到了

1189
00:37:53,460 --> 00:37:54,100
沒有道理

1190
00:37:54,110 --> 00:37:56,960
所以理論上他們應該是同樣快的

1191
00:37:57,150 --> 00:37:59,900
所以這中間就會有可以改進的

1192
00:37:59,910 --> 00:38:00,320
地方

1193
00:38:00,330 --> 00:38:02,600
我覺得這是一種方式

1194
00:38:02,610 --> 00:38:04,400
但是可能有很多不同的方式

1195
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,870
我覺得區塊鏈目前是大家討論

1196
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:07,760
比較多的一個

1197
00:38:07,770 --> 00:38:10,740
其實我覺得這個切入點很不錯

1198
00:38:10,750 --> 00:38:14,100
就是說你一起去看區塊鏈的技術

1199
00:38:14,110 --> 00:38:16,890
然後或者是它的產業發展來推測

1200
00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:18,170
這是一種做法

1201
00:38:18,420 --> 00:38:20,650
另外一種做法是你從它的本質

1202
00:38:20,660 --> 00:38:21,650
我一直在講

1203
00:38:21,660 --> 00:38:24,740
就說區塊鏈它其實是一個現代

1204
00:38:24,750 --> 00:38:26,100
網絡的升級

1205
00:38:26,110 --> 00:38:27,840
它是一個plate

1206
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,340
如果未來我們很多生活的層面跟

1207
00:38:31,350 --> 00:38:35,680
虛擬世界跟數位的世界息息相關

1208
00:38:35,690 --> 00:38:38,900
而且變得越來越不可分割的時候

1209
00:38:39,220 --> 00:38:41,530
這個網絡一定不會一直是他本來

1210
00:38:41,540 --> 00:38:42,050
的樣子

1211
00:38:42,060 --> 00:38:42,620
對不對

1212
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:44,280
就有點像以前我們有馬路

1213
00:38:44,290 --> 00:38:46,000
後來我們有鐵路網

1214
00:38:46,010 --> 00:38:47,260
還有高速鐵路

1215
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:47,740
對不對

1216
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:50,500
網絡它一定也會升級

1217
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,930
本來就有網絡變成區塊鏈網路

1218
00:38:52,940 --> 00:38:54,560
然後之後還有高速區塊鏈

1219
00:38:54,570 --> 00:38:55,000
網路

1220
00:38:55,010 --> 00:38:55,420
對不對

1221
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:58,090
如果這個趨勢不變

1222
00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:00,420
你如果發現我們越來越多生活

1223
00:39:00,430 --> 00:39:01,780
層面到這裡來了

1224
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,810
大家看到最近有新聞嗎

1225
00:39:03,820 --> 00:39:05,570
李嘉誠靠什麼AA

1226
00:39:05,580 --> 00:39:07,130
什麼數位平台

1227
00:39:07,140 --> 00:39:09,370
什麼8分鐘內可以拍一筆款項給

1228
00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:10,690
多少人之類的

1229
00:39:11,020 --> 00:39:13,510
大家其實也就可以去猜測說網絡

1230
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,340
一定會升級

1231
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,320
要阿布瑞網絡容不容易

1232
00:39:17,330 --> 00:39:18,490
其實很不容易

1233
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:22,290
最近我們有個好朋友Q狗的歐耀

1234
00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:22,480
偉

1235
00:39:22,490 --> 00:39:23,510
他就寫一篇文章

1236
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,410
還有寫提到你要R卜睿網絡到P

1237
00:39:27,420 --> 00:39:29,380
 to P就是所謂點對點的

1238
00:39:29,390 --> 00:39:30,780
整個世代的升級

1239
00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:34,410
牽涉到密碼學網路的底層

1240
00:39:34,420 --> 00:39:38,740
牽涉到很多使用者的習慣等等

1241
00:39:38,980 --> 00:39:41,110
這個升級勢必是非常不容易的

1242
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,710
但是以區塊鏈網絡這一個層次的

1243
00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:45,240
升級

1244
00:39:45,250 --> 00:39:46,710
從網絡到區塊鏈網絡

1245
00:39:46,910 --> 00:39:49,080
還真的好像快要沈了

1246
00:39:49,090 --> 00:39:50,880
而且已經擋了10年

1247
00:39:50,890 --> 00:39:51,200
對不對

1248
00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:54,240
從20809到現在2019年

1249
00:39:54,430 --> 00:39:55,890
好像還沒有cry序

1250
00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:57,610
當然很多人在看笑話

1251
00:39:57,620 --> 00:40:00,440
等他快去就跟當年很多人看笑話

1252
00:40:00,450 --> 00:40:01,930
覺得鐵路會失敗

1253
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:02,970
是一樣的

1254
00:40:02,980 --> 00:40:03,250
對吧

1255
00:40:03,260 --> 00:40:05,620
在高鐵開通前幾年

1256
00:40:05,630 --> 00:40:07,390
大家會說大高鐵會出事

1257
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,610
衝出去這樣子對結果大隊

1258
00:40:10,620 --> 00:40:15,660
所以我覺得其實這是一種也不要

1259
00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:16,600
讓堵住了

1260
00:40:16,610 --> 00:40:18,270
我覺得就是一種觀察

1261
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,240
對我跟徐明來講

1262
00:40:20,250 --> 00:40:23,860
許明恩的付出是更多的台大畢業

1263
00:40:23,870 --> 00:40:24,660
碩士畢業

1264
00:40:24,670 --> 00:40:26,720
然後現在用生命在奉獻

1265
00:40:26,730 --> 00:40:28,580
在區塊鏈的推廣上

1266
00:40:28,590 --> 00:40:30,240
我是一邊教書

1267
00:40:30,250 --> 00:40:33,000
然後我也用這種比較另類的形式

1268
00:40:33,010 --> 00:40:35,650
跟大家聊一些新的科技娛樂話題

1269
00:40:35,660 --> 00:40:36,140
等等

1270
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,070
但是聽眾朋友的付出又更少了

1271
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,810
每個禮拜廳一級區塊是聽一集

1272
00:40:41,820 --> 00:40:43,310
寶博朋友說對不對

1273
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,430
一個禮拜就這樣一小時對不對

1274
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,790
很輕鬆的可以聽到一些有的沒得

1275
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,220
但同時也可能可以間接的聽到

1276
00:40:51,230 --> 00:40:53,020
一點跟區塊鏈有關的話題

1277
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:56,470
希望都能夠對大家未來20年

1278
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,320
如果這個世界的網絡生的升級

1279
00:40:59,330 --> 00:41:01,600
變成區塊鏈網絡的時候

1280
00:41:01,610 --> 00:41:03,600
大家都可以更快的習慣更快的

1281
00:41:03,610 --> 00:41:04,780
進去這個世界

1282
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:07,010
然後更擁有更好的競爭力

1283
00:41:07,020 --> 00:41:07,500
對吧

1284
00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:11,430
感謝大家收聽今天的寶博朋友說

1285
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,220
我是葛如鈞寶博士

1286
00:41:13,230 --> 00:41:15,860
今天非常開心有許明恩來到節目

1287
00:41:15,870 --> 00:41:18,780
如果你喜歡我的節目

1288
00:41:18,790 --> 00:41:21,760
請記得在聲浪上訂閱寶博朋友說

1289
00:41:21,770 --> 00:41:22,360
的節目

1290
00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:24,290
如果你是在其他平台聽到這個節目

1291
00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:24,830
例如 iTunes 或 Spotify 都有

1292
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,370
歡迎您給五星評價

1293
00:41:26,380 --> 00:41:28,710
按喜歡留言或者按下小鈴鐺追蹤

1294
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:29,920
訂閱

1295
00:41:29,930 --> 00:41:32,370
我們下次

1296
00:41:32,380 --> 00:41:33,220
空中見

1297
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,680
拜拜