1 00:00:00,973 --> 00:00:02,500 I am a tree hugger. 2 00:00:03,142 --> 00:00:04,746 I spent much of my childhood 3 00:00:04,770 --> 00:00:07,576 on the great lower limb of a massive copper beech, 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,419 alternately reading and looking up at the sky through its branches. 5 00:00:11,443 --> 00:00:13,546 I felt safe and cared for 6 00:00:13,570 --> 00:00:17,146 and connected to something infinitely larger than myself. 7 00:00:17,170 --> 00:00:21,450 I thought the trees were immortal, that they would always be here. 8 00:00:22,540 --> 00:00:24,166 But I was wrong. 9 00:00:24,190 --> 00:00:25,968 The trees are dying. 10 00:00:25,992 --> 00:00:28,776 Climate change is killing the cedars of Lebanon 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,085 and the forests of the American West. 12 00:00:31,728 --> 00:00:33,670 And it's not just the trees. 13 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:40,027 Since 1998, extreme heat has killed more than 160,000 people, 14 00:00:40,051 --> 00:00:43,700 and unchecked climate change could kill millions more. 15 00:00:44,170 --> 00:00:45,840 How did we get here? 16 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:48,136 There are many reasons, of course, 17 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:49,627 but one of the most important 18 00:00:49,651 --> 00:00:53,510 is that we let capitalism morph into something monstrous. 19 00:00:53,980 --> 00:00:56,866 I'm a huge fan of capitalism at its best. 20 00:00:56,890 --> 00:01:00,721 After all, I'm an economist and a business school professor. 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,016 I think genuinely free and fair markets 22 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,753 are one of the great inventions of the human race. 23 00:01:07,235 --> 00:01:09,174 But here's the catch: 24 00:01:09,198 --> 00:01:14,013 markets only work their magic when prices reflect real costs. 25 00:01:14,363 --> 00:01:16,934 And right now, prices are badly out of whack. 26 00:01:17,569 --> 00:01:20,156 We're letting the firms who sell fossil fuels, 27 00:01:20,180 --> 00:01:23,576 and indeed anyone who emits greenhouse gases, 28 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,323 cause enormous damage for which they do not have to pay. 29 00:01:27,770 --> 00:01:29,683 And that is hardly fair. 30 00:01:30,601 --> 00:01:32,783 Imagine for a moment 31 00:01:32,807 --> 00:01:36,140 that my hands are filled with a cloud of electrons, 32 00:01:36,164 --> 00:01:39,340 10 dollars' worth of coal-fired electricity 33 00:01:39,364 --> 00:01:42,726 that could power your cell phone for more than 10 years. 34 00:01:42,750 --> 00:01:45,176 That probably sounds like a pretty good deal. 35 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,332 But it's only so cheap 36 00:01:47,356 --> 00:01:50,228 because you're not paying for the harm that it causes. 37 00:01:50,823 --> 00:01:55,396 Burning coal sends poisons like mercury and lead into the air, 38 00:01:55,420 --> 00:01:58,296 increasing healthcare costs by billions of dollars 39 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,488 and causing the death 40 00:01:59,512 --> 00:02:02,387 of hundreds of thousands of people every year. 41 00:02:03,050 --> 00:02:06,796 It also emits huge quantities of carbon dioxide. 42 00:02:06,820 --> 00:02:09,463 So another part of the real cost of coal 43 00:02:09,487 --> 00:02:14,006 is the climate damage it will cause and is already causing. 44 00:02:14,610 --> 00:02:18,146 More than a million acres burned in California this summer, 45 00:02:18,170 --> 00:02:22,156 and massive floods put a third of Bangladesh under water. 46 00:02:22,180 --> 00:02:26,396 Hundreds of studies have tried to put a number on these costs. 47 00:02:26,420 --> 00:02:28,034 My sense of this work, 48 00:02:28,058 --> 00:02:31,296 and here I'm relying on my colleagues in the School of Public Health 49 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,286 and my friends in economics, 50 00:02:33,310 --> 00:02:37,576 is that generating 10 dollars' worth of coal-fired electricity 51 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,366 causes at least eight dollars' worth of harm to human health 52 00:02:42,390 --> 00:02:46,755 and at least another eight dollars' worth of climate damage 53 00:02:46,779 --> 00:02:48,746 and probably much more. 54 00:02:48,770 --> 00:02:51,741 So the true cost of this handful of electrons? 55 00:02:51,765 --> 00:02:53,411 It's not 10 dollars. 56 00:02:53,435 --> 00:02:56,318 It's something more like 26. 57 00:02:57,070 --> 00:03:00,586 The hidden costs of doing things like burning oil and gas 58 00:03:00,610 --> 00:03:05,255 and eating beef are similarly enormous and just as unfair. 59 00:03:05,992 --> 00:03:09,786 Everyone who's trying to build a clean economy 60 00:03:09,810 --> 00:03:13,111 has to compete with firms that are heavily subsidized 61 00:03:13,135 --> 00:03:16,840 by the destruction of our health and the degradation of our climate. 62 00:03:17,506 --> 00:03:20,252 This is not the capitalism I signed up for. 63 00:03:20,276 --> 00:03:24,840 This is not a market that is either free or fair. 64 00:03:25,605 --> 00:03:26,938 So ... 65 00:03:27,757 --> 00:03:29,589 What do we do? 66 00:03:30,740 --> 00:03:35,436 The "easy" answer is that governments should insist 67 00:03:35,460 --> 00:03:39,867 that anyone who emits greenhouse gases pay for the damage that they cause. 68 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:41,723 However, at the moment, 69 00:03:41,747 --> 00:03:44,666 there's not much sign that governments are up for this, 70 00:03:44,690 --> 00:03:49,056 partly because the fossil fuel companies have spent the last 20 years 71 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,174 using their heavily subsidized profits 72 00:03:52,198 --> 00:03:54,753 to deny the reality of climate change 73 00:03:54,777 --> 00:03:56,405 and to shower the politicians, 74 00:03:56,429 --> 00:03:59,496 who should be regulating them, with money. 75 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,926 So here's my crazy idea. 76 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,493 I think business should step up. 77 00:04:04,930 --> 00:04:08,521 I think business should fix capitalism. 78 00:04:09,061 --> 00:04:10,538 I know. (Laughs) 79 00:04:10,562 --> 00:04:14,718 Some of you are probably thinking, "Fat chance." 80 00:04:15,437 --> 00:04:19,736 Didn't I just say that companies are the ones denying the science, 81 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,966 distorting the market and lobbying the politicians? 82 00:04:22,990 --> 00:04:24,243 I did. 83 00:04:25,017 --> 00:04:29,514 But fixing this is squarely in the private sector's interest. 84 00:04:29,989 --> 00:04:35,474 The truth is business is screwed if we don't fix climate change. 85 00:04:35,925 --> 00:04:37,906 It's going to be hard to make money 86 00:04:37,930 --> 00:04:40,604 when the great coastal cities are under water 87 00:04:40,628 --> 00:04:45,306 and millions of angry people are migrating north as the harvests fail. 88 00:04:45,330 --> 00:04:48,346 It's going to be tough to keep free enterprise alive 89 00:04:48,370 --> 00:04:51,436 if most people believe the rich and the white 90 00:04:51,460 --> 00:04:55,366 are using it to trash the planet for their own benefit. 91 00:04:56,206 --> 00:04:59,676 So let me tell you what this looks like on the ground. 92 00:04:59,700 --> 00:05:04,036 My friend Erik Osmundsen left a cushy job in private equity 93 00:05:04,060 --> 00:05:07,309 to become the CEO of a garbage company. 94 00:05:08,330 --> 00:05:11,498 That sounds like a slightly odd idea. 95 00:05:12,030 --> 00:05:14,403 But Erik wanted to make a difference, 96 00:05:14,427 --> 00:05:16,646 and changing the way that trash is handled 97 00:05:16,670 --> 00:05:19,583 could reduce emissions by billions of tons. 98 00:05:20,170 --> 00:05:23,106 Right away, he ran into a massive problem: 99 00:05:23,130 --> 00:05:25,866 the industry was thoroughly corrupt. 100 00:05:25,890 --> 00:05:29,476 Firms were cutting costs by dumping waste illegally, 101 00:05:29,500 --> 00:05:31,392 the regulations were poorly enforced 102 00:05:31,416 --> 00:05:34,319 and the fines for violation were tiny. 103 00:05:34,990 --> 00:05:37,595 Erik announced he was going to run clean 104 00:05:37,619 --> 00:05:40,896 and to raise prices to cover the costs of doing so. 105 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,985 Many of his senior team thought he was crazy. 106 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,356 Half of them quit. 107 00:05:46,380 --> 00:05:48,522 So did many of his customers. 108 00:05:48,546 --> 00:05:52,566 His competitors denounced him for bringing the industry into disrepute, 109 00:05:52,590 --> 00:05:55,221 and he started to receive personal threats. 110 00:05:55,990 --> 00:05:59,033 But corruption works best when it's hidden. 111 00:05:59,693 --> 00:06:03,953 As soon as Erik went public, people started to step up. 112 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,604 A few customers were willing to pay more. 113 00:06:06,980 --> 00:06:10,407 His investors agreed that taking the high road could pay off. 114 00:06:10,835 --> 00:06:15,438 Those of his employees who remained loved the idea of taking a stand 115 00:06:15,462 --> 00:06:18,645 and found all kinds of legal ways to cut costs. 116 00:06:18,669 --> 00:06:20,865 Erik persuaded several of his competitors 117 00:06:20,889 --> 00:06:24,257 to join him in refusing to dispose of garbage illegally, 118 00:06:24,281 --> 00:06:28,499 and it got much tougher for regulators to stay on the sidelines. 119 00:06:29,189 --> 00:06:32,726 Today, Erik's company, Norsk Gjenvinning, 120 00:06:32,750 --> 00:06:36,236 is one of the largest recycling companies in Scandinavia. 121 00:06:36,260 --> 00:06:37,830 Let me generalize. 122 00:06:38,230 --> 00:06:40,635 These are the four pillars of change: 123 00:06:41,510 --> 00:06:44,096 Build a business that can set the right price 124 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,093 and still be profitable. 125 00:06:46,740 --> 00:06:49,369 Persuade your competitors to do the same thing. 126 00:06:49,900 --> 00:06:53,504 Make sure that investors understand there's money to be made. 127 00:06:54,070 --> 00:06:57,246 And push governments to put the right price into law 128 00:06:57,270 --> 00:06:59,959 so that bottom-feeders can't survive. 129 00:06:59,983 --> 00:07:02,801 I'm not telling you we've got this nailed. 130 00:07:03,103 --> 00:07:04,829 Things are pretty desperate. 131 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,645 But there are thousands of businesspeople like Erik, 132 00:07:09,669 --> 00:07:12,132 and there are millions of people like us. 133 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:18,157 And we are customers, employees, investors and citizens. 134 00:07:18,181 --> 00:07:21,796 Instead of giving up on capitalism, let's fix it 135 00:07:21,820 --> 00:07:26,366 by making sure that markets are truly fair and truly free, 136 00:07:26,390 --> 00:07:29,116 and that no one can dump garbage on us 137 00:07:29,140 --> 00:07:31,802 and walk away without paying for it. 138 00:07:32,370 --> 00:07:38,028 We have the resources and the technology to solve climate change. 139 00:07:38,052 --> 00:07:40,861 Together, we can save the trees 140 00:07:40,885 --> 00:07:42,775 and each other. 141 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:44,963 Thank you.