1 00:00:00,773 --> 00:00:02,300 I am a tree hugger. 2 00:00:02,942 --> 00:00:04,546 I spent much of my childhood 3 00:00:04,570 --> 00:00:07,376 on the great lower limb of a massive copper beech, 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,219 alternately reading and looking up at the sky through its branches. 5 00:00:11,243 --> 00:00:13,346 I felt safe and cared for 6 00:00:13,370 --> 00:00:16,946 and connected to something infinitely larger than myself. 7 00:00:16,970 --> 00:00:21,250 I thought the trees were immortal, that they would always be here. 8 00:00:22,340 --> 00:00:23,966 But I was wrong. 9 00:00:23,990 --> 00:00:25,768 The trees are dying. 10 00:00:25,792 --> 00:00:28,576 Climate change is killing the cedars of Lebanon 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,885 and the forests of the American West. 12 00:00:31,528 --> 00:00:33,470 And it's not just the trees. 13 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:39,827 Since 1998, extreme heat has killed more than 160,000 people, 14 00:00:39,851 --> 00:00:43,500 and unchecked climate change could kill millions more. 15 00:00:43,970 --> 00:00:45,640 How did we get here? 16 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:47,936 There are many reasons, of course, 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,427 but one of the most important 18 00:00:49,451 --> 00:00:53,310 is that we let capitalism morph into something monstrous. 19 00:00:53,780 --> 00:00:56,666 I'm a huge fan of capitalism at its best. 20 00:00:56,690 --> 00:01:00,521 After all, I'm an economist and a business school professor. 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,816 I think genuinely free and fair markets 22 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,553 are one of the great inventions of the human race. 23 00:01:07,035 --> 00:01:08,974 But here's the catch: 24 00:01:08,998 --> 00:01:13,813 markets only work their magic when prices reflect real costs. 25 00:01:14,163 --> 00:01:16,734 And right now, prices are badly out of whack. 26 00:01:17,369 --> 00:01:19,956 We're letting the firms who sell fossil fuels, 27 00:01:19,980 --> 00:01:23,376 and indeed anyone who emits greenhouse gases, 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,123 cause enormous damage for which they do not have to pay. 29 00:01:27,570 --> 00:01:29,483 And that is hardly fair. 30 00:01:30,401 --> 00:01:32,583 Imagine for a moment 31 00:01:32,607 --> 00:01:35,940 that my hands are filled with a cloud of electrons, 32 00:01:35,964 --> 00:01:39,140 10 dollars' worth of coal-fired electricity 33 00:01:39,164 --> 00:01:42,526 that could power your cell phone for more than 10 years. 34 00:01:42,550 --> 00:01:44,976 That probably sounds like a pretty good deal. 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,132 But it's only so cheap 36 00:01:47,156 --> 00:01:50,028 because you're not paying for the harm that it causes. 37 00:01:50,623 --> 00:01:55,196 Burning coal sends poisons like mercury and lead into the air, 38 00:01:55,220 --> 00:01:58,096 increasing healthcare costs by billions of dollars 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,288 and causing the death 40 00:01:59,312 --> 00:02:02,187 of hundreds of thousands of people every year. 41 00:02:02,850 --> 00:02:06,596 It also emits huge quantities of carbon dioxide. 42 00:02:06,620 --> 00:02:09,263 So another part of the real cost of coal 43 00:02:09,287 --> 00:02:13,806 is the climate damage it will cause and is already causing. 44 00:02:14,410 --> 00:02:17,946 More than a million acres burned in California this summer, 45 00:02:17,970 --> 00:02:21,956 and massive floods put a third of Bangladesh under water. 46 00:02:21,980 --> 00:02:26,196 Hundreds of studies have tried to put a number on these costs. 47 00:02:26,220 --> 00:02:27,834 My sense of this work, 48 00:02:27,858 --> 00:02:31,096 and here I'm relying on my colleagues in the School of Public Health 49 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,086 and my friends in economics, 50 00:02:33,110 --> 00:02:37,376 is that generating 10 dollars' worth of coal-fired electricity 51 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:42,166 causes at least eight dollars' worth of harm to human health 52 00:02:42,190 --> 00:02:46,555 and at least another eight dollars' worth of climate damage 53 00:02:46,579 --> 00:02:48,324 and probably much more. 54 00:02:48,570 --> 00:02:51,541 So the true cost of this handful of electrons? 55 00:02:51,565 --> 00:02:53,211 It's not 10 dollars. 56 00:02:53,235 --> 00:02:56,118 It's something more like 26. 57 00:02:56,870 --> 00:03:00,386 The hidden costs of doing things like burning oil and gas 58 00:03:00,410 --> 00:03:05,055 and eating beef are similarly enormous and just as unfair. 59 00:03:05,792 --> 00:03:09,586 Everyone who's trying to build a clean economy 60 00:03:09,610 --> 00:03:12,911 has to compete with firms that are heavily subsidized 61 00:03:12,935 --> 00:03:16,640 by the destruction of our health and the degradation of our climate. 62 00:03:17,306 --> 00:03:20,052 This is not the capitalism I signed up for. 63 00:03:20,076 --> 00:03:24,640 This is not a market that is either free or fair. 64 00:03:25,405 --> 00:03:26,738 So ... 65 00:03:27,557 --> 00:03:29,389 What do we do? 66 00:03:30,540 --> 00:03:35,236 The "easy" answer is that governments should insist 67 00:03:35,260 --> 00:03:39,667 that anyone who emits greenhouse gases pay for the damage that they cause. 68 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:41,523 However, at the moment, 69 00:03:41,547 --> 00:03:44,466 there's not much sign that governments are up for this, 70 00:03:44,490 --> 00:03:48,856 partly because the fossil fuel companies have spent the last 20 years 71 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,974 using their heavily subsidized profits 72 00:03:51,998 --> 00:03:54,553 to deny the reality of climate change 73 00:03:54,577 --> 00:03:56,205 and to shower the politicians, 74 00:03:56,229 --> 00:03:59,296 who should be regulating them, with money. 75 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,726 So here's my crazy idea. 76 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,293 I think business should step up. 77 00:04:04,730 --> 00:04:08,321 I think business should fix capitalism. 78 00:04:08,861 --> 00:04:10,338 I know. (Laughs) 79 00:04:10,362 --> 00:04:14,518 Some of you are probably thinking, "Fat chance." 80 00:04:15,237 --> 00:04:19,536 Didn't I just say that companies are the ones denying the science, 81 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,766 distorting the market and lobbying the politicians? 82 00:04:22,790 --> 00:04:24,043 I did. 83 00:04:24,817 --> 00:04:29,314 But fixing this is squarely in the private sector's interest. 84 00:04:29,789 --> 00:04:35,274 The truth is business is screwed if we don't fix climate change. 85 00:04:35,725 --> 00:04:37,706 It's going to be hard to make money 86 00:04:37,730 --> 00:04:40,404 when the great coastal cities are under water 87 00:04:40,428 --> 00:04:45,106 and millions of angry people are migrating north as the harvests fail. 88 00:04:45,130 --> 00:04:48,146 It's going to be tough to keep free enterprise alive 89 00:04:48,170 --> 00:04:51,236 if most people believe the rich and the white 90 00:04:51,260 --> 00:04:55,166 are using it to trash the planet for their own benefit. 91 00:04:56,006 --> 00:04:59,476 So let me tell you what this looks like on the ground. 92 00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:03,836 My friend Erik Osmundsen left a cushy job in private equity 93 00:05:03,860 --> 00:05:07,109 to become the CEO of a garbage company. 94 00:05:08,130 --> 00:05:11,298 That sounds like a slightly odd idea. 95 00:05:11,830 --> 00:05:14,203 But Erik wanted to make a difference, 96 00:05:14,227 --> 00:05:16,446 and changing the way that trash is handled 97 00:05:16,470 --> 00:05:19,383 could reduce emissions by billions of tons. 98 00:05:19,970 --> 00:05:22,906 Right away, he ran into a massive problem: 99 00:05:22,930 --> 00:05:25,666 the industry was thoroughly corrupt. 100 00:05:25,690 --> 00:05:29,276 Firms were cutting costs by dumping waste illegally, 101 00:05:29,300 --> 00:05:31,192 the regulations were poorly enforced 102 00:05:31,216 --> 00:05:34,119 and the fines for violation were tiny. 103 00:05:34,790 --> 00:05:37,395 Erik announced he was going to run clean 104 00:05:37,419 --> 00:05:40,476 and to raise prices to cover the costs of doing so. 105 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,785 Many of his senior team thought he was crazy. 106 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,156 Half of them quit. 107 00:05:46,180 --> 00:05:48,322 So did many of his customers. 108 00:05:48,346 --> 00:05:52,366 His competitors denounced him for bringing the industry into disrepute, 109 00:05:52,390 --> 00:05:55,021 and he started to receive personal threats. 110 00:05:55,790 --> 00:05:58,833 But corruption works best when it's hidden. 111 00:05:59,493 --> 00:06:03,753 As soon as Erik went public, people started to step up. 112 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,404 A few customers were willing to pay more. 113 00:06:06,780 --> 00:06:10,207 His investors agreed that taking the high road could pay off. 114 00:06:10,635 --> 00:06:15,238 Those of his employees who remained loved the idea of taking a stand 115 00:06:15,262 --> 00:06:18,445 and found all kinds of legal ways to cut costs. 116 00:06:18,469 --> 00:06:20,665 Erik persuaded several of his competitors 117 00:06:20,689 --> 00:06:24,057 to join him in refusing to dispose of garbage illegally, 118 00:06:24,081 --> 00:06:28,299 and it got much tougher for regulators to stay on the sidelines. 119 00:06:28,989 --> 00:06:32,526 Today, Erik's company, Norsk Gjenvinning, 120 00:06:32,550 --> 00:06:36,036 is one of the largest recycling companies in Scandinavia. 121 00:06:36,060 --> 00:06:37,630 Let me generalize. 122 00:06:38,030 --> 00:06:40,435 These are the four pillars of change: 123 00:06:41,310 --> 00:06:43,896 Build a business that can set the right price 124 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,893 and still be profitable. 125 00:06:46,540 --> 00:06:49,169 Persuade your competitors to do the same thing. 126 00:06:49,700 --> 00:06:53,304 Make sure that investors understand there's money to be made. 127 00:06:53,870 --> 00:06:57,046 And push governments to put the right price into law 128 00:06:57,070 --> 00:06:59,429 so that bottom-feeders can't survive. 129 00:06:59,783 --> 00:07:02,601 I'm not telling you we've got this nailed. 130 00:07:02,903 --> 00:07:04,629 Things are pretty desperate. 131 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,445 But there are thousands of businesspeople like Erik, 132 00:07:09,469 --> 00:07:11,932 and there are millions of people like us. 133 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:17,957 And we are customers, employees, investors and citizens. 134 00:07:17,981 --> 00:07:21,596 Instead of giving up on capitalism, let's fix it 135 00:07:21,620 --> 00:07:26,166 by making sure that markets are truly fair and truly free, 136 00:07:26,190 --> 00:07:28,916 and that no one can dump garbage on us 137 00:07:28,940 --> 00:07:31,602 and walk away without paying for it. 138 00:07:32,170 --> 00:07:37,828 We have the resources and the technology to solve climate change. 139 00:07:37,852 --> 00:07:40,661 Together, we can save the trees 140 00:07:40,685 --> 00:07:42,575 and each other. 141 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:44,763 Thank you.