0:00:21.083,0:00:24.166 When I was a university student 0:00:24.181,0:00:28.035 someone gave me[br]the most important lesson ever. 0:00:28.036,0:00:33.035 It was the course instructor of a course[br]with an unusual name, Drug Dependencies, 0:00:33.036,0:00:36.765 who decided from the very moment[br]he saw me - and I don't know why - 0:00:36.766,0:00:39.479 that I shouldn't speak during his classes. 0:00:39.480,0:00:42.559 He never explained me why,[br]he simply said to me, 0:00:42.560,0:00:45.230 "Excuse me, what is your name?"[br]"Marta." 0:00:45.231,0:00:49.536 "Well, Marta, you cannot speak."[br]"Why?" "You simply can't." 0:00:49.537,0:00:52.790 The conversation ended there. 0:00:52.791,0:00:59.150 Halfway through the course,[br]I understood why he was doing that. 0:00:59.151,0:01:00.958 He wanted me to feel 0:01:00.959,0:01:05.624 the same way the people[br]I would be treating felt 0:01:05.625,0:01:07.810 using what I learned in his course. 0:01:07.811,0:01:12.837 I had a very tough time during the course,[br]I could not say anything. 0:01:12.838,0:01:16.490 He absolutely ignored[br]every move I would make. 0:01:16.491,0:01:22.299 I felt absolutely undervalued[br]and excluded from my group. 0:01:22.300,0:01:26.031 After a while, I was sent for internship 0:01:26.032,0:01:29.760 - during my last Social Education[br]course - to a prison. 0:01:29.761,0:01:33.561 And it was that day[br]when I unconsciously put into practice 0:01:33.562,0:01:37.360 what I learnt:[br]not to speak, but simply listen. 0:01:37.361,0:01:38.933 I got lost on the road, 0:01:38.934,0:01:43.444 it was very difficult to get to a place[br]in the middle of nowhere. 0:01:43.445,0:01:47.012 My internship tutor was waiting for me. 0:01:47.013,0:01:53.260 All the way right from the main door[br]to the block I had to go every single day 0:01:54.906,0:02:00.137 I just couldn't retain any information[br]or utter any word. 0:02:00.138,0:02:05.339 I simply could not react[br]to the stimuli I had in front of me. 0:02:05.340,0:02:08.368 When I left that place[br]and got into my car, I thought: 0:02:08.369,0:02:10.466 "Marta, this is too much for you, 0:02:10.467,0:02:13.251 prison is not the right place[br]for you to work," 0:02:13.257,0:02:15.702 and I swore I never would. 0:02:15.703,0:02:18.071 After a while I left Barcelona, 0:02:19.641,0:02:23.056 thinking that I would come across[br]other creative things somewhere else, 0:02:23.057,0:02:28.122 a different way to fix all the social[br]problems I was facing as a professional, 0:02:28.123,0:02:29.614 and I left for London. 0:02:29.615,0:02:31.559 And when I came back again, 0:02:31.560,0:02:37.001 they offered me my first job[br]in a prison in the heart of Barcelona. 0:02:37.002,0:02:41.432 I couldn't believe it. I knew[br]I didn't want that but I couldn't say no. 0:02:41.433,0:02:43.960 I agreed and I started working there. 0:02:43.961,0:02:46.916 And that's when I thought[br]I reconciled with that space, 0:02:46.917,0:02:49.785 and I began to understand[br]what happened inside: 0:02:49.786,0:02:52.844 an inert facility, but full of people, 0:02:52.845,0:02:56.218 people with their own concerns,[br]dynamic people. 0:02:56.219,0:03:00.190 I understood that working[br]with people means respect. 0:03:02.440,0:03:06.478 And, while working[br]in groups with those guys 0:03:06.479,0:03:09.345 that I helped as a professional, 0:03:09.346,0:03:12.673 I realized that they had[br]no respect for themselves. 0:03:12.674,0:03:16.250 On the contrary, I felt[br]they respected me. 0:03:17.920,0:03:23.825 During that time,[br]many questions came to my mind - 0:03:23.826,0:03:28.058 questions like,[br]"How have they ended up here?" 0:03:28.059,0:03:31.960 If they had the same[br]existential thoughts that I have, 0:03:31.961,0:03:34.641 why have they been given[br]such a distinct response 0:03:34.642,0:03:37.613 that has brought them here[br]at this moment? 0:03:39.546,0:03:42.685 These are questions[br]I haven't found the answer to yet, 0:03:42.686,0:03:45.444 but what I have always[br]wondered, above all, 0:03:45.445,0:03:47.852 is if I felt respected by them 0:03:47.853,0:03:50.912 being a young, small woman 0:03:50.932,0:03:55.550 they used to meet every day,[br]one of the few they meet regularly - 0:03:55.551,0:03:57.574 would it mean, once they'll be out, 0:03:57.575,0:04:00.358 that they could have[br]a different attitude towards women? 0:04:00.359,0:04:02.725 Towards any kind of women? 0:04:04.815,0:04:07.690 I'm sorry, but this is something[br]I cannot answer right now 0:04:07.691,0:04:10.117 because we're talking about[br]very long processes. 0:04:11.585,0:04:15.084 It's as if I sometimes invent[br]norms in my favor, 0:04:15.085,0:04:17.885 but I try to stay informed 0:04:17.886,0:04:19.647 and speak advisedly 0:04:19.648,0:04:22.429 so I have searched and found out[br]there are many regulations 0:04:22.430,0:04:25.181 on gender equality, 0:04:25.182,0:04:30.867 of The European Union, the United Nations,[br]the Spanish Constitution, 0:04:30.868,0:04:36.199 but sometimes, they don't reflect[br]the reality and we are aware of it. 0:04:36.207,0:04:39.277 The same thing happens[br]with the Spanish Constitution 0:04:39.278,0:04:41.717 when it says that prisons[br]have to be a space 0:04:41.718,0:04:44.518 for reeducation and social reintegration. 0:04:45.857,0:04:50.215 And it's puzzling,[br]because we invest a lot in this; 0:04:51.246,0:04:55.802 we lock people away[br]and the problem deepens 0:04:55.803,0:04:58.656 because we believe that time[br]will solve the pending issues, 0:04:58.657,0:05:01.466 and we complain when things[br]don't turn out to be like that. 0:05:03.527,0:05:06.571 And I wondered, if there[br]were strategies we could implement 0:05:06.572,0:05:10.416 to really change this,[br]why aren't they applied? 0:05:10.957,0:05:14.030 And I also wondered if there were[br]any strategies in place at all 0:05:14.031,0:05:15.894 and I tell you that there are. 0:05:15.895,0:05:19.600 They have been tested and proven,[br]and have been shown that they work 0:05:19.601,0:05:24.329 and that they reduce recidivism[br]from 40% to 16%. 0:05:26.012,0:05:30.225 When I read these guidelines,[br]they made me think: 0:05:30.226,0:05:33.239 why are they always[br]referring to men? 0:05:33.240,0:05:37.836 Why is it taken for granted[br]that the sentenced to prison are men? 0:05:37.837,0:05:40.694 And if it is a woman, what happens? 0:05:40.695,0:05:43.132 Wouldn't it be easier[br]to think of them as people? 0:05:43.133,0:05:47.088 Wouldn't it be much easier to write[br]the rules thinking of them as people? 0:05:47.089,0:05:51.417 Of course, doesn't come as a surprise[br]that if they are only referring to men 0:05:51.437,0:05:54.306 they then don't take[br]cohabitation into consideration 0:05:54.307,0:05:56.264 as there is everywhere[br]else in this world, 0:05:56.265,0:05:59.587 where for the time being[br]men and women live together. 0:05:59.588,0:06:03.748 I give you some current facts,[br]here in Cataluña, 0:06:03.749,0:06:07.135 there are 9,900 people[br]that are incarcerated - 0:06:07.971,0:06:13.091 9,263 are men and 637 are women. 0:06:13.092,0:06:16.081 There is quite a difference[br]in numbers between the genders, 0:06:16.083,0:06:19.625 and they serve their sentence[br]separately, in separate prisons. 0:06:19.626,0:06:22.650 I'd like we all think about this: 0:06:22.663,0:06:26.401 do you really think[br]that unmixed spaces 0:06:26.402,0:06:29.613 are suitable for the promotion[br]of gender equality? 0:06:29.614,0:06:32.666 For respect between men and women? 0:06:32.667,0:06:36.768 Do you really think that spaces[br]where they don't take into account 0:06:36.769,0:06:39.213 the respect for people[br]nor human beings 0:06:39.214,0:06:44.270 can be spaces where people[br]can regain self-esteem? 0:06:46.867,0:06:50.677 I think that it can be done,[br]that there are ways to do this, 0:06:50.678,0:06:54.139 and we recently held several conferences 0:06:54.426,0:06:59.040 where we discussed[br]research outcomes that proved it. 0:07:00.458,0:07:04.624 There I met someone who told me[br]something that had a great impact on me, 0:07:04.626,0:07:06.544 Jesús Valverde, who said: 0:07:06.549,0:07:11.188 "We are not here, our mission[br]is neither to judge nor to justify 0:07:11.188,0:07:14.476 but rather to understand[br]in order to take action. 0:07:14.476,0:07:21.172 To understand you first need to listen,[br]and to listen first means to respect." 0:07:21.173,0:07:27.145 Do we really believe that prisons[br]are spaces that promote a culture 0:07:27.146,0:07:30.676 for gender equality[br]and respect for people? 0:07:32.526,0:07:34.635 Keeping in mind that today 0:07:34.636,0:07:37.892 we all can end up[br]in one of these prisons, 0:07:37.893,0:07:40.019 do you really think[br]that we are treating them 0:07:40.020,0:07:42.763 the way we'd like to be treated? 0:07:42.764,0:07:47.777 Are we implementing strategies[br]able to help face conflicts 0:07:47.792,0:07:50.251 in a totally different way? 0:07:53.061,0:07:56.954 I invite you to a brief reflexion: 0:07:56.955,0:08:00.518 imagine a situation;[br]any kind of situation, 0:08:00.519,0:08:04.979 that makes you feel insecure[br]and absolutely vulnerable, 0:08:09.364,0:08:12.168 and think, what would you need 0:08:12.169,0:08:15.591 to change that situation[br]and feel secure again? 0:08:19.021,0:08:21.907 Well take that in the prison. 0:08:22.757,0:08:24.329 Take it there, 0:08:25.879,0:08:29.748 because those people will really[br]try to work that out. 0:08:36.328,0:08:40.020 If we are creating spaces outside[br]that are an inspiration for change, 0:08:40.022,0:08:44.737 don't you think it is the right time[br]to create and use those spaces there 0:08:44.738,0:08:46.755 in order to inspire and make a change? 0:08:46.756,0:08:49.010 I personally think so, 0:08:49.011,0:08:51.755 and that's why I work every day 0:08:51.756,0:08:55.741 to help turn the prison into a space 0:08:55.742,0:08:58.498 that can inspire a change in people. 0:08:58.499,0:08:59.842 Thank you. 0:08:59.843,0:09:01.573 (Applause)