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Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.47,0:01:04.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hiwa K: People tend to forget,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.24,0:01:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this amnesia which people are having, especially \Nnow with the return of the right wing.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.56,0:01:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes artists work more into the \Nfuture and show them what could come.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.48,0:01:22.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But sometimes you have to remind them \Njust what happened yesterday, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.32,0:01:25.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because people tend to forget more and more.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.76,0:01:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Baruther Strasse is the name of my street.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.58,0:01:41.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I go to the studio here. “Barut” \Nin Arabic means explosive powder.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.88,0:01:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anything I do is an archeological act.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.88,0:02:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You start to dig, and the material \Nstarts to tell you who you are.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.66,0:02:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The material tells you, "Okay,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.04,0:02:15.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are doing quite well. I like you \Nlike this. Go further. Stop here."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.96,0:02:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You play and you test your borders \Nas a small Chihuahua, or dog.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.92,0:02:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You try to see who is the master and \Nthe material always talks to you.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.22,0:02:38.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mostly, I take my works from \Nanecdotes, like my own childhood.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.90,0:02:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was born Kurdistan of Iraq. Kurdistan is \Na minority in Iraq. Color TVs didn't come
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.42,0:02:53.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Kurdistan, because the government's not \Ninvesting always in those minority areas.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.26,0:02:59.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So my father was putting color foil on the TV.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.54,0:03:03.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One week we had it red, one week we had blue.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.90,0:03:07.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The whole city was doing that. \NIt's a very silent protest.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.16,0:03:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think my works are very Kurdish.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.54,0:03:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kurds is about being formless, \Nbecause you don't have a country.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.34,0:03:37.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You exist but you don't \Nexist on the map officially.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.78,0:03:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After the first World War, the French and the \NBritish decided not to give the Kurds a country.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.66,0:03:49.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They gave a part to Iraq, to Iran, \Nto Syria, and then to Turkey.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.58,0:03:53.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we are just cut in four pieces like pizza.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.71,0:03:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, as a Kurdish person, you are twice unsafe.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.84,0:04:01.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like as Iraqi, you are unsafe once as Arab.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.74,0:04:03.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when you are Kurdish, you are unsafe twice.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.88,0:04:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This work ["The Lemon Tastes of Apple"] happened
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.20,0:04:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2011 when I went back to Kurdistan \Nand it was the time of Arab Spring.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.82,0:04:31.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't like to hide behind my camera.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.76,0:04:35.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To jump in front of your own camera, \Nyou make yourself vulnerable,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.94,0:04:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you are not looking at things \Nas an object, you are a part of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.16,0:04:43.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this engagement is very important for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.84,0:04:49.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I say it was very stupid to do it, because I ...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.76,0:04:52.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wouldn't do it now.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.48,0:04:57.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was very dangerous moment where \Nyou walked towards this militias
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.96,0:05:04.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are shooting you one by one and playing \NEnnio Morricone’s music while inhaling the gas.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.86,0:05:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The absurdity of the whole thing, it's a big joke.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.52,0:05:15.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You brother is shooting you, \Nwhat do you have to lose.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.54,0:05:17.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You just have to do a gesture.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.54,0:05:23.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’m using the mechanism of a joke.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.66,0:05:29.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You wouldn't expect somebody stupid \Ncoming with a harmonica and playing.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.66,0:05:35.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You experience things differently \Nwith a joke. It has a twist.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.22,0:05:38.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has a way of stimulating your thinking.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.06,0:05:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A joke always wakes us up with a slap, \Nwhich comes from somewhere you don't expect.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.39,0:06:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have very rational part of my practice, \Nbut also have a very irrational part.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.33,0:06:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to bring something what doesn't fit; what \Ndoesn't fit, and it's a bit strange, you know.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.45,0:06:37.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since many years, I knew Bakir \NAli, the Kurdish philosopher,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.08,0:06:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was based in Berlin working as a taxi driver.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.74,0:06:44.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had the long-term discussions in Kurdish.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.28,0:06:46.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to interrupt his thinking.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.00,0:06:53.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I just started to attack him physically.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.27,0:07:23.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wrestling interrupts us from this \Nkind of linear intellectual debate.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.32,0:07:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we're out of breath and \Nsomebody's holding your throat,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.80,0:07:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can't verbalize what you want to say.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.20,0:07:37.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You sometimes experience the most existentialist questions.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.00,0:07:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hiwa K:\NVery often,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.66,0:07:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people say, "You are visual artist." \NI say, "I'm a blind visual artist."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.52,0:07:52.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I search blindly for tools.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.90,0:07:58.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm more like having a begging bowl and knocking \Nat doors, "Do you have anything to give me?"
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.41,0:08:05.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just borrowing disciplines from \Ndance to marble game to music to cooking.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.40,0:08:08.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are the language of the people.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.43,0:08:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think if art had some chance, it should \Nchange completely this intellectual language.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.24,0:08:57.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you are trying to balance \Nsomething, you are in a panic.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.56,0:09:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are swinging all the time, you don't have \Na center. You are not anchored somewhere.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.95,0:09:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So very often, people say I'm based in Berlin.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.96,0:09:13.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm never based. I'm based on my feet, you know.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.22,0:09:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came walking.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.60,0:09:25.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tried seven times to leave my country, and I was \Neven in a few prisons, because I didn't make it.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.19,0:10:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The wave of refugees itself is a statement.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.54,0:10:15.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a performance art actually, like people \Nare performing and coming here saying,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.30,0:10:18.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You see what happens to me \Nbecause of your ignorance,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.02,0:10:21.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of you not caring about the system."
Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.40,0:10:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would be very happy to go back to my country,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.38,0:10:30.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I want to spend some time with \Nmy mountains, my people, but in peace.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.26,0:10:34.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this peace, I say the \NWest has ruined it for us.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.24,0:10:40.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember we had always war. I don't \Nremember that there was no war in Iraq.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.52,0:10:44.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went through three wars \Nbefore coming to the West.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.28,0:10:52.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,During the second World War, Kassel was destroyed
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.12,0:10:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now Kassel is producing so \Nmuch weapons and exported many,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.52,0:11:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many weapons to my country and other countries.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.14,0:11:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kassel is forgetting it's own past.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.86,0:11:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Greece, there was a structure of five \Nwater pipes to be used for construction.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.86,0:12:04.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Refugees are living there, so it was like \Na kind of refugee camp or hotel for free.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.96,0:12:10.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not about patronizing, but \Nit's just about reminding people.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.92,0:12:16.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The refugee which we see, they come just \Nbecause you've export wars to those countries.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.73,0:12:25.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The works I do is very much about reminding \Nhow many fingerprints we have onto each other,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.20,0:12:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how much we are embedded into each other.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.76,0:12:44.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes you call your work political, but by \Noverdosing it, you kill the political in it.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.12,0:12:48.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, for me, it's important \Nto make this soft connection.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.38,0:12:52.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And here I call it to refer with \Nyour pinky, not with your index.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.88,0:12:55.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead of telling all these white people,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.86,0:13:00.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You guys, look what you are doing \Nto my family and people are dying."
Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.24,0:13:02.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, make them get it by themselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.90,0:13:08.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's our responsibility, \Npeople from dominated countries,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.22,0:13:13.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,educate them about politics. Educate \Nthem about knowing about our pain.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.56,0:13:18.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The major changes should happen here,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.42,0:13:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because these countries are \Ncountries who are in charge
Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.48,0:13:24.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of making big decisions about the whole world.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.86,0:13:28.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People here, they live quite \Nwell and they don't care.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.74,0:13:29.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't want to change anything.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.21,0:13:38.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are stuck somehow. I'm in a \Nquite stress situation for now.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.58,0:13:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Free thinking what I'm doing, whether \Nthat's helpful or just decorating the
Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.78,0:13:46.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,façade of the system with this democratic color.