1 00:00:07,261 --> 00:00:08,339 Hi. 2 00:00:09,665 --> 00:00:11,279 I'm Maisie Williams. 3 00:00:11,279 --> 00:00:14,053 And I'm kind of just waiting for someone to come on stage 4 00:00:14,053 --> 00:00:17,271 and tell me that there's been some sort of miscommunication, 5 00:00:17,271 --> 00:00:19,352 and that I should probably leave. 6 00:00:20,916 --> 00:00:22,088 No? 7 00:00:23,330 --> 00:00:24,472 Damn it. 8 00:00:24,472 --> 00:00:26,035 (Laughter) 9 00:00:26,675 --> 00:00:29,806 So, some of you may know me as an actress. 10 00:00:30,188 --> 00:00:32,726 (Cheers) (Laughter) 11 00:00:32,806 --> 00:00:36,742 Some of you may know me for my really average tweets. 12 00:00:36,742 --> 00:00:38,231 (Cheers) 13 00:00:38,231 --> 00:00:40,005 Oh, yeah. 14 00:00:40,241 --> 00:00:44,600 And some of you may be finding out who I am for the first time right now. 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:45,982 Hello. 16 00:00:46,693 --> 00:00:48,921 Whether you knew me before or not, 17 00:00:48,921 --> 00:00:52,247 you're probably wondering what I'm going to talk to you about today. 18 00:00:52,384 --> 00:00:55,037 And I would be lying if I said 19 00:00:55,037 --> 00:00:57,586 it didn't take me one or two sleepless nights, 20 00:00:57,586 --> 00:00:59,464 trying to figure that out, too. 21 00:00:59,464 --> 00:01:01,136 At last, here I am. 22 00:01:01,887 --> 00:01:05,708 Upon finding out the news that I would be giving a TEDx Talk, 23 00:01:05,708 --> 00:01:07,594 I did what I think most people do 24 00:01:07,594 --> 00:01:10,582 and watched about 50 TED talks back-to-back, 25 00:01:10,582 --> 00:01:15,087 and read "Talk like TED" by Carmine Gallo for some inspiration. 26 00:01:15,673 --> 00:01:17,205 Was I inspired? 27 00:01:18,349 --> 00:01:19,782 Yes and no. 28 00:01:20,369 --> 00:01:23,374 Did it make me want to go out and change the world? 29 00:01:23,374 --> 00:01:24,830 Hell yeah. 30 00:01:24,941 --> 00:01:28,256 Did it make me feel like a totally inadequate public speaker 31 00:01:28,256 --> 00:01:30,061 with absolutely no point to make, 32 00:01:30,061 --> 00:01:34,027 who was definitely in need of a big thesaurus if she wants to keep up? 33 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:35,511 Indeed. 34 00:01:36,404 --> 00:01:40,165 What could I possibly say that would have any impact? 35 00:01:40,617 --> 00:01:42,822 What point am I trying to make? 36 00:01:42,822 --> 00:01:46,542 And who the hell thought it was a good idea to give me a TEDx talk? 37 00:01:49,212 --> 00:01:51,460 So here's the part where I tell you what I know: 38 00:01:52,828 --> 00:01:55,142 I'm the youngest of four siblings. 39 00:01:55,594 --> 00:01:58,315 My parents divorced when I was four months old. 40 00:01:58,635 --> 00:02:01,802 I really was the icing on the cake of a terrible marriage. 41 00:02:01,802 --> 00:02:03,434 (Laughter) 42 00:02:03,734 --> 00:02:07,049 I have two step siblings who are younger than me 43 00:02:07,049 --> 00:02:10,201 and a half brother who's older than all of us. 44 00:02:10,513 --> 00:02:13,932 I grew up in a three-bedroom council house 45 00:02:13,932 --> 00:02:17,144 with four of my six siblings just outside of Bristol. 46 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:20,684 I went to a very ordinary school. 47 00:02:20,684 --> 00:02:23,042 I got very ordinary grades. 48 00:02:23,435 --> 00:02:26,268 I wasn't quite good enough to get a gold star, 49 00:02:26,268 --> 00:02:29,584 and I also wasn't quite bad enough to be kept after school. 50 00:02:30,032 --> 00:02:34,476 I walked that nice center line where if I kept my mouth shut in class, 51 00:02:34,661 --> 00:02:36,092 then I could probably get away 52 00:02:36,092 --> 00:02:39,643 with not being spoken to you by teachers for weeks on end. 53 00:02:40,333 --> 00:02:42,744 Everything about me was pretty damn ordinary, 54 00:02:43,353 --> 00:02:46,314 except for how I felt on the inside. 55 00:02:47,269 --> 00:02:50,063 I had big dreams. 56 00:02:50,892 --> 00:02:52,103 Shock. 57 00:02:53,901 --> 00:02:55,662 From as young as I can remember, 58 00:02:55,662 --> 00:02:59,022 I have dreamed of becoming a professional dancer. 59 00:03:00,184 --> 00:03:02,501 There are certain memories from my childhood 60 00:03:02,501 --> 00:03:04,811 that I would really rather forget. 61 00:03:05,373 --> 00:03:07,744 But during those times of immense pain, 62 00:03:08,044 --> 00:03:12,252 I found myself instinctively walking over to my mother's CD player, 63 00:03:12,252 --> 00:03:15,413 cranking up the volume to drown out the noise 64 00:03:15,413 --> 00:03:18,063 and letting my body move to the beat. 65 00:03:19,194 --> 00:03:21,634 It's hard to describe how it felt. 66 00:03:22,095 --> 00:03:26,161 I was harnessing emotions that I didn't even really know the names of yet. 67 00:03:26,733 --> 00:03:28,724 I was summoning all of this energy 68 00:03:28,724 --> 00:03:33,012 and feeling it flow through my body and out of my fingertips. 69 00:03:33,436 --> 00:03:38,093 I was alone in my own head, and I felt the most alive. 70 00:03:39,247 --> 00:03:42,553 I didn't really know much about the big wide world then, 71 00:03:42,553 --> 00:03:45,193 but I knew that this feeling was addictive; 72 00:03:45,193 --> 00:03:48,748 and I was going to stop at nothing until I made it my profession. 73 00:03:50,616 --> 00:03:54,853 At eight years old, I was enrolled in dance class. 74 00:03:54,853 --> 00:03:57,803 And by ten, I informed my mother 75 00:03:57,803 --> 00:04:00,813 that I didn't want to go to school anymore. 76 00:04:01,313 --> 00:04:04,890 I wanted to be like Billy Elliot and go to stage school. 77 00:04:05,874 --> 00:04:10,832 This was the first opportunity or challenge I was presented with. 78 00:04:11,764 --> 00:04:13,501 Even as young as ten, 79 00:04:13,501 --> 00:04:19,172 I was willing to give up all of my friends and go away to board at a private school, 80 00:04:19,512 --> 00:04:22,333 away from my siblings, away from my mom. 81 00:04:23,231 --> 00:04:26,841 She would repeatedly ask me, "Are you sure this is what you want?" 82 00:04:26,841 --> 00:04:30,297 And to me, it was a no-brainer. 83 00:04:30,491 --> 00:04:33,686 I didn't just want this; I needed it. 84 00:04:35,294 --> 00:04:40,555 My grubby knees and crooked teeth were not on the list of requirements 85 00:04:40,555 --> 00:04:42,842 for becoming a professional dancer. 86 00:04:43,066 --> 00:04:45,292 And when I look back now, 87 00:04:45,292 --> 00:04:48,665 both myself and my mother looked severely out of place. 88 00:04:49,762 --> 00:04:54,625 But at the time, I was just too young and naive to feel inadequate. 89 00:04:55,033 --> 00:04:56,411 I didn't care. 90 00:04:56,512 --> 00:04:59,297 If Billy Elliot could do it, so could I. 91 00:04:59,881 --> 00:05:04,672 Once my audition was done, I returned home for two weeks of staring out the window, 92 00:05:05,021 --> 00:05:06,995 waiting for the postman, 93 00:05:06,995 --> 00:05:09,614 waiting for my ticket out of my sleepy village 94 00:05:09,614 --> 00:05:13,078 and into a world of jazz hands and dorm rooms. 95 00:05:14,514 --> 00:05:19,095 It was good news followed by bad news: 96 00:05:19,531 --> 00:05:24,692 I had got in, but the fees to attend a school like this were not cheap, 97 00:05:24,692 --> 00:05:29,498 and despite my best efforts, I had not received any government funding. 98 00:05:30,362 --> 00:05:32,766 I auditioned again the following year. 99 00:05:32,766 --> 00:05:35,812 And this time, I received 40% funding, 100 00:05:35,812 --> 00:05:38,352 but this was still just money that we didn't have, 101 00:05:38,352 --> 00:05:40,596 and it broke my heart. 102 00:05:41,412 --> 00:05:43,094 I was good enough. 103 00:05:43,816 --> 00:05:45,573 I made the cut. 104 00:05:46,572 --> 00:05:48,883 But I wasn't going anywhere. 105 00:05:51,142 --> 00:05:53,053 It was a blessing in disguise, 106 00:05:53,053 --> 00:05:55,503 although if anyone had said that to me back then, 107 00:05:55,503 --> 00:05:58,823 I probably would've given them the finger and told them to jog on. 108 00:05:59,552 --> 00:06:01,912 I wasn't willing to give up that easily. 109 00:06:02,192 --> 00:06:06,953 So at age 11, I was bursting with excitement 110 00:06:06,968 --> 00:06:10,800 when my dance teacher informed me of a talent show 111 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,430 which boasted opportunities of making you a star. 112 00:06:15,924 --> 00:06:20,375 This was the second opportunity I was faced with. 113 00:06:20,538 --> 00:06:24,895 I entered into singing, acting, 114 00:06:25,189 --> 00:06:27,629 dancing and modeling. 115 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,835 The talent show consisted of workshops and seminars 116 00:06:32,835 --> 00:06:35,881 with specialists who would help train you up for your performance 117 00:06:35,881 --> 00:06:37,644 at the end of the week. 118 00:06:37,790 --> 00:06:40,044 After meeting a woman called Louise Johnston 119 00:06:40,044 --> 00:06:42,891 in an improvisation acting workshop, 120 00:06:42,891 --> 00:06:45,110 she gave me the words "bowling ball," 121 00:06:45,110 --> 00:06:49,038 and asked me to create a short scene inspired by these words. 122 00:06:49,199 --> 00:06:51,881 After making her laugh with a fictional story, 123 00:06:51,881 --> 00:06:55,568 of how I threw a bowling ball at my brother and it bounced, 124 00:06:55,568 --> 00:06:58,600 she asked me to join her acting agency. 125 00:06:59,351 --> 00:07:01,265 I didn't really know what this meant. 126 00:07:01,701 --> 00:07:07,213 I knew that I would do auditions for films and maybe become an actor, 127 00:07:07,512 --> 00:07:11,244 but I still had big dreams of becoming a professional dancer, 128 00:07:11,244 --> 00:07:14,294 so this woman was going to have to work a lot harder than that 129 00:07:14,294 --> 00:07:16,842 if she was going to convince eleven-year-old me 130 00:07:16,842 --> 00:07:19,086 that I was going to become an actress. 131 00:07:21,544 --> 00:07:23,246 Was this going to take time away 132 00:07:23,246 --> 00:07:26,469 from the 30 hours of dancing I was doing a week? 133 00:07:27,052 --> 00:07:29,052 And what if I didn't get the part? 134 00:07:29,052 --> 00:07:30,948 Was this going to be too upsetting? 135 00:07:31,093 --> 00:07:33,613 And do actresses have teeth like mine? 136 00:07:33,613 --> 00:07:36,810 Because if they do, I'm yet to watch any of their movies. 137 00:07:37,811 --> 00:07:41,133 After meeting Louise in the February of 2009 138 00:07:41,547 --> 00:07:44,223 and trying but failing to land the part 139 00:07:44,223 --> 00:07:48,282 in the hit sequel "Nanny McPhee" to "The Big Bang," 140 00:07:49,050 --> 00:07:52,717 my second audition was for a show called "Game of Thrones." 141 00:07:54,596 --> 00:07:59,342 This was the third opportunity or challenge I was presented with. 142 00:08:00,328 --> 00:08:03,206 I climbed the steps to the Methodist Church 143 00:08:03,206 --> 00:08:05,225 with my mother's hand in mine. 144 00:08:05,792 --> 00:08:09,882 I perched my tiny bottom in one of the seats outside the audition room 145 00:08:09,882 --> 00:08:13,400 and listened to an annoying girl with her even more annoying mother 146 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,906 tell me all about the number of auditions she had done prior to this one. 147 00:08:16,906 --> 00:08:18,841 And also about her pet fish. 148 00:08:20,883 --> 00:08:23,458 My name was called, then I stepped inside. 149 00:08:24,241 --> 00:08:26,638 I had a hard Bristolian accent 150 00:08:26,638 --> 00:08:31,351 and dark rings around my eyes that were so big they took up half my face 151 00:08:31,351 --> 00:08:35,152 and a hole in the knee of my trousers which I tried to cover with my left hand 152 00:08:35,152 --> 00:08:38,732 as I was talking to the kind lady who taped my audition. 153 00:08:39,529 --> 00:08:41,554 But as soon as she pressed record, 154 00:08:42,310 --> 00:08:44,120 it all drifted away. 155 00:08:45,190 --> 00:08:48,481 Much like when I was dancing in my mother's living room, 156 00:08:48,481 --> 00:08:51,813 I harnessed all of my insecurities and self-doubt 157 00:08:51,813 --> 00:08:55,256 and let it flow through the words that came out of my mouth. 158 00:08:56,110 --> 00:08:57,646 I was cheeky. 159 00:08:58,150 --> 00:08:59,723 I was loud. 160 00:09:00,064 --> 00:09:01,726 I was angry. 161 00:09:02,489 --> 00:09:05,765 And for this, I was perfect. 162 00:09:07,821 --> 00:09:11,502 After getting the part and shooting the pilot episode, 163 00:09:11,502 --> 00:09:12,980 the show slowly grew 164 00:09:12,980 --> 00:09:16,055 to become one of the biggest shows in television history. 165 00:09:17,206 --> 00:09:21,593 To this day, we've smashed previous HBO viewing records. 166 00:09:22,063 --> 00:09:24,841 We've been nominated for over 130 Emmys, 167 00:09:24,841 --> 00:09:28,473 making us the most Emmy-nominated show to ever exist. 168 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,210 We've recently finished shooting our eighth and final season, 169 00:09:33,210 --> 00:09:36,489 which is predicted to smash records that we've already broken. 170 00:09:36,901 --> 00:09:42,913 And nearly a decade to the day since my first audition, 171 00:09:44,013 --> 00:09:45,836 I'm still wondering, 172 00:09:46,884 --> 00:09:49,334 when am I going to get to be Billy Elliot? 173 00:09:49,727 --> 00:09:51,255 (Laughter) 174 00:09:51,705 --> 00:09:56,823 I joke, but in all seriousness, I have absolutely no plans of slowing down. 175 00:09:57,046 --> 00:10:00,897 Throughout my time in this industry, it has been a minefield. 176 00:10:00,897 --> 00:10:03,995 I have grown from a child into an adult, 177 00:10:03,995 --> 00:10:07,678 and from four feet tall into a whopping five feet tall. 178 00:10:07,864 --> 00:10:09,515 (Laughter) 179 00:10:10,225 --> 00:10:13,535 I have constantly been trying to say the right thing, 180 00:10:13,535 --> 00:10:15,837 accidentally saying the wrong thing, 181 00:10:15,837 --> 00:10:17,906 trying not to swear too much 182 00:10:17,906 --> 00:10:21,316 and trying to stop saying "like, like" all of the time. 183 00:10:23,146 --> 00:10:25,566 In February of 2017, 184 00:10:25,566 --> 00:10:28,630 a friend of mine, Dom, and I were swigging beers in my kitchen, 185 00:10:28,630 --> 00:10:29,727 and he confessed to me 186 00:10:29,727 --> 00:10:33,266 that there is a huge problem with the creative industries. 187 00:10:33,421 --> 00:10:34,694 I agreed. 188 00:10:34,694 --> 00:10:37,093 The series of events that had got me to that point 189 00:10:37,093 --> 00:10:41,089 were based mainly on luck and timing and were unable to be recreated. 190 00:10:41,365 --> 00:10:44,337 He suggested to me that we create a social media, 191 00:10:44,337 --> 00:10:48,076 but just for artists to be able to collaborate with one another 192 00:10:48,076 --> 00:10:49,730 and create a career. 193 00:10:49,866 --> 00:10:53,847 This was the fourth opportunity or challenge I was presented with. 194 00:10:54,636 --> 00:10:56,526 "Great," I thought. 195 00:10:57,389 --> 00:10:59,381 "How the hell do we do that?" 196 00:10:59,889 --> 00:11:01,591 And Daisy was born. 197 00:11:02,088 --> 00:11:06,944 Of course, everyone who I spoke to about my latest endeavor thought that I was mad; 198 00:11:07,072 --> 00:11:10,560 however, I know that this is something that I can help change. 199 00:11:11,673 --> 00:11:15,977 This last year in the industry, we've seen a huge shift with the Me Too movement. 200 00:11:16,319 --> 00:11:19,917 The industry is built with gatekeepers holding all of the power 201 00:11:19,917 --> 00:11:23,886 and selecting who they deem talented enough to advance to the next level. 202 00:11:24,095 --> 00:11:27,697 More often than not, it's easier to catch the attention of those people 203 00:11:27,697 --> 00:11:30,588 if you have graduated from an expensive school. 204 00:11:30,588 --> 00:11:34,417 But even then, I have so many friends who are fresh out of art school, 205 00:11:34,417 --> 00:11:38,816 having trained for years and are still no closer to creating a career. 206 00:11:39,552 --> 00:11:42,947 Now, I'm not claiming that with Daisy I can make everybody a star, 207 00:11:42,947 --> 00:11:44,185 but I do believe 208 00:11:44,185 --> 00:11:48,325 that the key to success within creative industries is collaborating. 209 00:11:48,458 --> 00:11:51,425 Actors are only as good as their writers. 210 00:11:51,557 --> 00:11:54,676 Musicians are only as strong as their producers. 211 00:11:54,826 --> 00:11:58,176 And designers need their teams. 212 00:11:58,946 --> 00:12:01,597 To start the company, we self-funded. 213 00:12:02,861 --> 00:12:04,928 I had a pot of cash from "Game of Thrones" 214 00:12:04,928 --> 00:12:07,251 that I was free to invest wherever I liked. 215 00:12:07,576 --> 00:12:10,574 Dom had a series of businesses from the age of 16, 216 00:12:10,574 --> 00:12:13,397 which meant he was also left with a pot of cash. 217 00:12:13,397 --> 00:12:17,227 We threw our money together 50-50, and we built a team. 218 00:12:17,747 --> 00:12:21,617 Now, Lady Gaga has repeatedly said 219 00:12:21,617 --> 00:12:27,267 that there could be a room of 100 people, and 99 don't believe in you, 220 00:12:27,267 --> 00:12:30,375 but it just takes that one person to believe in you, 221 00:12:30,375 --> 00:12:32,616 and they can change your life. 222 00:12:32,820 --> 00:12:36,045 Well, now we have a team of six. 223 00:12:37,495 --> 00:12:40,567 Over the next 16 months, we built our MVP. 224 00:12:40,567 --> 00:12:42,853 Now, if you're wondering what an MVP is, 225 00:12:42,853 --> 00:12:45,528 I only found out what it is about six months ago. 226 00:12:45,528 --> 00:12:50,571 And from what I can gather, it's a product which proves as a problem worth solving 227 00:12:50,571 --> 00:12:52,874 with the minimum team effort. 228 00:12:53,237 --> 00:12:56,510 So basically from my point of view, you're marketing something 229 00:12:56,510 --> 00:12:59,126 which you know is going to be good one day, 230 00:12:59,126 --> 00:13:01,507 but is a little bit bad right now. 231 00:13:01,936 --> 00:13:04,476 And for us, that was an iOS app. 232 00:13:04,787 --> 00:13:07,857 The six of us made an office in Dom's garden, 233 00:13:07,857 --> 00:13:12,358 and on August 1, 2018, we released our version one. 234 00:13:12,786 --> 00:13:17,158 We had over 30,000 downloads in the first 24 hours 235 00:13:17,158 --> 00:13:19,357 and over 30,000 comments 236 00:13:19,357 --> 00:13:22,550 asking when the Android version was going to be coming. 237 00:13:23,297 --> 00:13:28,721 Despite our app being imperfect, buggy and literally built by one man alone, 238 00:13:28,721 --> 00:13:31,815 this was exactly what we needed for people to invest. 239 00:13:31,815 --> 00:13:36,196 We learned a lot from our angry users and our scary investors. 240 00:13:36,406 --> 00:13:41,019 And over the last six months, we have grown our team to 16 people. 241 00:13:42,723 --> 00:13:45,156 From then till now, we've been building version two, 242 00:13:45,156 --> 00:13:47,253 which we will be launching in April. 243 00:13:47,768 --> 00:13:48,904 Within the industry, 244 00:13:48,904 --> 00:13:52,188 there is a common phrase which I think we're all pretty familiar with. 245 00:13:52,188 --> 00:13:55,588 And that is, "It's not what you know, it's who you know." 246 00:13:55,588 --> 00:13:59,415 And with Daisy, I hope to give that power back to the creator. 247 00:13:59,598 --> 00:14:02,509 I want to encourage people to create a list of contacts 248 00:14:02,509 --> 00:14:05,975 that they will work with and support as they take their first steps 249 00:14:05,975 --> 00:14:09,427 into the fickle and often challenging creative world. 250 00:14:10,143 --> 00:14:13,340 I am of the generation who grew up with the Internet. 251 00:14:13,340 --> 00:14:15,401 I've never known anything else. 252 00:14:15,908 --> 00:14:20,796 We are connected, we are aware, and we are the future. 253 00:14:21,757 --> 00:14:23,836 I hope Daisy can breathe new life 254 00:14:23,836 --> 00:14:26,838 into the slightly dystopian, ad-riddled hellscapes 255 00:14:26,838 --> 00:14:29,414 that social media platforms have become. 256 00:14:29,767 --> 00:14:33,567 I hope to create a space where people can boast their art and creativity 257 00:14:33,567 --> 00:14:35,467 rather than what car they are driving 258 00:14:35,467 --> 00:14:38,349 and whether or not they bought it in cash or on finance. 259 00:14:38,625 --> 00:14:42,558 In a world where literally anyone can be famous, 260 00:14:42,558 --> 00:14:45,960 I hope to inspire people to be talented instead. 261 00:14:46,897 --> 00:14:51,116 Talent will carry you so much further than your 15 minutes of fame. 262 00:14:52,579 --> 00:14:54,638 So why am I telling you all this? 263 00:14:56,817 --> 00:14:59,657 The very fact that I'm here giving a TEDx talk right now 264 00:14:59,657 --> 00:15:02,877 is so far from anything I thought that I was capable of. 265 00:15:03,606 --> 00:15:06,696 Even writing the bio for my speech made me realize 266 00:15:06,696 --> 00:15:10,536 that in a decade, everything in my life has changed. 267 00:15:11,235 --> 00:15:16,615 I am an Emmy-nominated actress, an entrepreneur and an activist; 268 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,139 yet I have no formal qualifications to my name. 269 00:15:22,565 --> 00:15:27,074 When I left school about seven years ago, I made it my mission to continue learning 270 00:15:27,074 --> 00:15:30,164 even though I never wanted to set foot in a classroom again. 271 00:15:30,753 --> 00:15:34,107 Who knows what's going to happen to my life in the next 10 years? 272 00:15:34,107 --> 00:15:36,081 I surely have no idea. 273 00:15:36,587 --> 00:15:38,755 I've never had an end goal. 274 00:15:38,755 --> 00:15:40,908 It's working out okay so far. 275 00:15:41,907 --> 00:15:44,268 So trust that you're good enough. 276 00:15:45,506 --> 00:15:50,098 If there's one thing that I've learned is that there truly is a place for everyone. 277 00:15:51,089 --> 00:15:52,757 Ask questions, 278 00:15:52,757 --> 00:15:56,351 and laugh in the face of people who say that they're stupid questions. 279 00:15:57,418 --> 00:15:59,947 Be open to learning and admitting 280 00:15:59,947 --> 00:16:02,254 when you don't know what the hell is going on. 281 00:16:03,088 --> 00:16:05,587 Refuse to hold yourself back, 282 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,084 and dare to dream big. 283 00:16:08,821 --> 00:16:10,377 Thank you for listening. 284 00:16:10,377 --> 00:16:12,867 (Applause)