0:00:00.080,0:00:03.293 欢迎来到 "偏见之源(节目名)” 的议论现场。 0:00:03.293,0:00:11.760 我们将会以“什么是偏见?” “偏见从哪里来?” “偏见是怎么发展起来的?”以及“如何移除偏见?” 等一系列议题展开讨论。 0:00:11.760,0:00:16.678 让我来介绍参与本次讨论现场的学生。 0:00:16.794,0:00:25.887 来自印度尼西亚的拉坦提-伊斯坎达-迪纳塔,高中生,17岁,同时也是一位天生的舞蹈家。 0:00:25.887,0:00:30.000 你们刚刚可能听到了来自日本的鹿屿理子(猜测名)动人的声音。 0:00:30.000,0:00:35.600 我们时常喜欢在我们不进行严肃讨论时找点事请做, 0:00:35.600,0:00:39.324 这时我们经常邀请理子来给我们跳舞或唱一曲(她两种才艺都会)。 0:00:39.324,0:00:46.480 朱迪斯-里达儿, 一位来自英国的18岁女孩。她今天有点感冒。想必她不可能是在大西洋里游出感冒来的。 0:00:46.480,0:00:51.321 尽管她发誓她在英国的冬日里游过大西洋。 0:00:51.321,0:00:57.583 来自菲律宾的罗尔-康特里拉斯。在美国的国庆7月4号时,罗尔将迎来他16周岁的生日。 0:00:57.583,0:01:02.570 他也许会承认其他偏见,但他很明显绝不会对女性有任何偏见, 0:01:02.570,0:01:08.586 不然他就不会作为我们今天唯一的男嘉宾陪着我们其他三位女生了。 0:01:08.586,0:01:14.617 在我们聊到关于偏见的话题时,或许我们应该先聊一聊你们所认为的偏见。 0:01:14.617,0:01:17.434 你认为偏见是什么?纳坦提? 0:01:17.434,0:01:25.326 我认为偏见是作为一个群体或个体向其他群体或个体的恨意。 0:01:25.326,0:01:30.775 你提到了恨意...请问你认为偏见和恨意是一样强的吗? 0:01:30.775,0:01:38.315 是的,当一个人产生了偏见时,他会开始说:“我恨这个和那个”。 0:01:38.315,0:01:42.000 确实...那么理子你认为什么是偏见呢? 0:01:42.000,0:01:49.040 我发现当一个人把两个白人区分开来,这不是偏见。 0:01:49.040,0:01:56.645 但当一个白人和有色人种被区别对待时,这时就出现了偏见。 0:01:57.440,0:02:05.393 因此,我会把偏见定义成一个,在基于一项客观事实的绝对理解前产生的,刻板的主观理念。 0:02:05.393,0:02:13.119 当一个人丢失了他作为一个人的灵魂和尊严,并开始评判他人的种族,信条,经济地位, 0:02:13.119,0:02:19.092 而非单纯作为一个人来批判时,那就是偏见。 0:02:19.345,0:02:23.200 那么,可以允许我问一下你们有没有任何的偏见呢? 0:02:23.200,0:02:30.588 坦白来说,沃乐女士(主持人),我认为我对日本人持有偏见。 0:02:30.755,0:02:39.959 当然没有到针锋相对的程度,不不不,但是我的偏见归根于二战。 0:02:39.959,0:02:46.064 我当时太小了,无法明辨是非。 0:02:46.064,0:02:54.000 但是我认为我的朋友,亲人还有我的同胞们那时所遇到的场景... 0:02:54.000,0:03:06.000 证明了这项客观的历史事实。所以我认为持有这种偏见是正确的,毕竟我知道我们的确在日本的帝国统治下受了不少苦。 0:03:06.000,0:03:09.280 所以相较于过去,你现在对日本人还持有那么强的偏见了吗? 0:03:09.280,0:03:15.242 从五年前开始,我的这种偏见已经逐渐开始淡化。 0:03:15.242,0:03:22.630 但当日本固执的不给我们任何形式上的补偿时,我的偏见又开始增加了。 0:03:22.630,0:03:30.326 不过,现在当我和理子和其他日本人进行沟通时,我才意识到原来日本根本没有能力赔偿我们。 0:03:30.326,0:03:39.601 因为就像理子说的,大多数的日本学校甚至没钱安装暖气,以致于许多学生只能在冬日挨冻。 0:03:39.840,0:03:43.163 理子,请问你有任何偏见吗? 0:03:43.163,0:03:47.360 我不认为我对菲律宾人持有任何偏见... 0:03:47.360,0:03:58.467 但许多日本人憎恨着韩国,因为韩国的总统硬是在日本和韩国的公海间划分了地界(李承晚线) 0:03:58.467,0:04:11.280 并且每当一位日本的渔民跨越了这条线时,来巡逻的韩国人们会直接逮捕他们。 0:04:12.080,0:04:17.216 这些渔民一段时间内都无法回家,而我们却在试图和韩国做朋友。 0:04:17.216,0:04:21.976 那我们就按照座位顺序来吧,朱迪斯,你认为你有什么偏见吗? 0:04:21.976,0:04:27.575 是的,我认为还是尽早承认它们,尽管我是英国人... 我的确拥有一些非常愚蠢的偏见,见笑了。 0:04:27.575,0:04:32.514 举个例子,每当我遇见一个红头发的人时,我会立刻提高防备心。 0:04:32.514,0:04:38.880 因为我还是持有着一个非常愚蠢的偏见----红头发的人拥有着坏脾气,他们就像他们的发色一样充满激情。 0:04:38.880,0:04:47.083 哦我还有另外一个愚蠢的刻板印象,当我第一次遇见澳洲代表伊丽莎白-伍德给特时(她还没有上过电视) 0:04:47.083,0:04:53.564 我被她的英语口音震惊了,因为他的口音就像英国的科尼口音。 0:04:53.564,0:05:00.453 我希望我没有表现得很自大,但科尼口音在英国... 大多数英国人在听到这种口音后会不寒而栗... 0:05:00.453,0:05:05.760 但她也很坦白地和我讲她在听到我的口音后也不寒而栗。 0:05:05.760,0:05:07.759 她为什么这么说? 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