1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:45,620 music 2 00:00:55,090 --> 00:00:56,520 Can I sit here? 3 00:01:06,505 --> 00:01:07,485 Nice day, no? 4 00:01:14,079 --> 00:01:17,009 music 5 00:01:17,449 --> 00:01:18,159 You want one? 6 00:01:19,509 --> 00:01:23,969 music 7 00:01:24,290 --> 00:01:25,990 I think if you tell your parents, 8 00:01:25,990 --> 00:01:27,016 I want to be a clown, 9 00:01:27,016 --> 00:01:28,656 there is that quality of, oh no. 10 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,240 Is it possible that's also the case with 11 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:34,012 an artist 12 00:01:34,922 --> 00:01:36,792 like, oh no, don't go that direction. 13 00:01:41,679 --> 00:01:43,689 There is this risk of if your work is 14 00:01:43,689 --> 00:01:46,175 funny or humorous, people don't take it 15 00:01:46,175 --> 00:01:46,995 seriously. 16 00:01:49,271 --> 00:01:51,001 Forget about a serious artist, 17 00:01:51,001 --> 00:01:52,866 they don't even think you're an artist, 18 00:01:53,016 --> 00:01:55,219 they think you're a clown, you know? 19 00:01:55,306 --> 00:02:00,876 music 20 00:02:00,876 --> 00:02:03,585 So I think that's the kind of fear that I 21 00:02:03,585 --> 00:02:05,284 at some point I recognized 22 00:02:05,284 --> 00:02:07,430 that maybe it was stopping me from what I 23 00:02:07,430 --> 00:02:08,465 wanted to do. 24 00:02:09,627 --> 00:02:12,047 So I was like, what will happen if I'm 25 00:02:12,047 --> 00:02:16,792 also the clown? As an artist, you can't 26 00:02:16,792 --> 00:02:19,392 escape not pointing the camera or the 27 00:02:19,657 --> 00:02:24,717 finger at yourself. So I try to exaggerate 28 00:02:24,717 --> 00:02:26,718 that aspect, so then I will be allowed to 29 00:02:26,718 --> 00:02:28,740 also exaggerate everything else about the 30 00:02:28,740 --> 00:02:29,458 society. 31 00:02:29,458 --> 00:02:31,853 music 32 00:02:32,031 --> 00:02:34,781 By doing that, I hope it'll allow the work 33 00:02:34,781 --> 00:02:37,509 to be seen as not myself, but what's 34 00:02:37,509 --> 00:02:40,404 surrounding me, the spectators of this 35 00:02:40,404 --> 00:02:42,647 circus. (music) 36 00:03:05,210 --> 00:03:07,981 I love that tension of who gets to tell 37 00:03:07,981 --> 00:03:10,853 more truths, is it a clown in a circus who 38 00:03:10,853 --> 00:03:13,318 can criticize a society or a serious 39 00:03:13,318 --> 00:03:15,337 artist, let's say or a serious politician? 40 00:03:15,448 --> 00:03:20,518 (music) 41 00:03:36,945 --> 00:03:40,245 When you come to my studio, there are very 42 00:03:40,245 --> 00:03:42,982 distinct, different works existing next to 43 00:03:42,982 --> 00:03:47,626 each other. One thing about the realistic 44 00:03:47,626 --> 00:03:50,351 painting is that it takes longer time, 45 00:03:50,351 --> 00:03:53,817 it's more labor intensive, in 46 00:03:53,817 --> 00:03:57,896 contradiction to this very quick stage of 47 00:03:57,896 --> 00:04:00,542 the cartoonish work. They are living on 48 00:04:00,542 --> 00:04:02,849 two different stages, extremely slow, 49 00:04:02,849 --> 00:04:04,996 extremely fast, extremely detailed, 50 00:04:04,996 --> 00:04:08,722 extremely undefiled, extremely skilled, 51 00:04:08,722 --> 00:04:11,404 and very de-skilled version of them in 52 00:04:11,404 --> 00:04:15,821 the cartoonish form. That kind of analogy 53 00:04:15,821 --> 00:04:19,532 has found its way all over my work. 54 00:04:19,532 --> 00:04:21,491 There is always this sense of two things 55 00:04:21,491 --> 00:04:23,347 contradicting each other. There is two 56 00:04:23,347 --> 00:04:25,462 energy, there is clash of two totally 57 00:04:25,462 --> 00:04:28,104 different things resisting against each 58 00:04:28,104 --> 00:04:30,118 other, and that's how the affect of what 59 00:04:30,118 --> 00:04:34,503 I'm producing is made. It kind of tries to 60 00:04:34,503 --> 00:04:36,554 resist this to this, maybe desire from the 61 00:04:36,554 --> 00:04:41,021 society to see you as one, to frame you as 62 00:04:41,021 --> 00:04:46,147 one. And I don't want to be that. (music) 63 00:05:09,144 --> 00:05:12,544 In 2008, I was living in Iran, my path was 64 00:05:12,544 --> 00:05:17,289 on another route. (spray gun hissing) 65 00:05:17,894 --> 00:05:20,044 When I was growing up in Tehran, with the 66 00:05:20,044 --> 00:05:22,656 educational system I had gone through, 67 00:05:22,656 --> 00:05:24,248 there are limitations, you know? 68 00:05:24,248 --> 00:05:26,181 What can you be, what can you do, you 69 00:05:26,181 --> 00:05:28,214 know? Almost like just be happy with what 70 00:05:28,214 --> 00:05:32,392 you are given. I was supposed to be an 71 00:05:32,392 --> 00:05:36,974 aerospace engineer and I remember I fell 72 00:05:36,974 --> 00:05:39,866 in love with cinema and with filmmaking. 73 00:05:43,186 --> 00:05:45,586 The Iranian filmmakers that I would think 74 00:05:45,586 --> 00:05:47,819 about, I had imagined, like, how the 75 00:05:47,819 --> 00:05:50,354 directors are writing and coming up with 76 00:05:50,354 --> 00:05:53,328 the stories, telling the stories of us 77 00:05:53,328 --> 00:05:57,750 back to us. (music) 78 00:06:00,249 --> 00:06:02,794 I realized, oh my god, there is a world 79 00:06:02,794 --> 00:06:05,632 even more free than filmmaking which is 80 00:06:05,632 --> 00:06:08,319 the visual art. And I knew at that point 81 00:06:08,319 --> 00:06:14,067 that I'm going to be a visual artist. Do 82 00:06:14,067 --> 00:06:23,015 you want? Here. Lemme just do it for you. 83 00:06:23,015 --> 00:06:24,370 (lighter flicking) 84 00:06:29,785 --> 00:06:32,015 What I like to imagine is that everything 85 00:06:32,015 --> 00:06:35,791 I make in the studio, it comes to life. It 86 00:06:35,791 --> 00:06:37,811 give like that soul to it when it's on 87 00:06:37,811 --> 00:06:41,904 display to the public. Oh, this is bad. 88 00:06:44,026 --> 00:06:50,366 Oh, this is bad. It's bad for your health 89 00:06:50,366 --> 00:06:54,366 too. (soft music) 90 00:06:57,633 --> 00:06:59,497 The Breakers is one of the grandest 91 00:06:59,497 --> 00:07:04,100 mansions of Newport. It has been turned 92 00:07:04,100 --> 00:07:07,840 to a museum and it's the first time a 93 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:10,552 contemporary exhibition is being set up 94 00:07:10,552 --> 00:07:15,027 inside. (soft music) 95 00:07:22,060 --> 00:07:24,741 I pick the head, I will ask you to hold it 96 00:07:25,022 --> 00:07:27,709 or any one of you guys that are there. You 97 00:07:27,709 --> 00:07:30,252 will hold it, I will have my hammer. 98 00:07:30,252 --> 00:07:31,125 -So once he puts 99 00:07:31,125 --> 00:07:33,194 -Yes - the pieces down, then we go out and 100 00:07:33,194 --> 00:07:35,255 get the food. -Exactly. -Exactly. -The 101 00:07:35,255 --> 00:07:37,365 people you have been serving, you just 102 00:07:37,365 --> 00:07:39,231 come between them and you will use your 103 00:07:39,231 --> 00:07:41,371 flashlight. It's totally fine to suddenly 104 00:07:41,371 --> 00:07:43,382 sit down and look under the table or look 105 00:07:43,382 --> 00:07:45,493 at the elephant. -Okay. We're looking for 106 00:07:45,493 --> 00:07:47,822 something. -Yeah, searching for 107 00:07:47,822 --> 00:07:49,395 something. Exactly. A lot of my 108 00:07:49,395 --> 00:07:51,388 performance have this sense of like a 109 00:07:51,388 --> 00:07:54,278 dream scenario. Things being tiny bit 110 00:07:54,278 --> 00:07:56,714 funny, and things being tiny bit sad or 111 00:07:56,714 --> 00:08:00,521 out of place. You want to laugh at it and 112 00:08:00,521 --> 00:08:02,313 you might feel bad by laughing at the 113 00:08:02,313 --> 00:08:06,978 artist. I like that confusion of, hey, 114 00:08:06,978 --> 00:08:16,520 what's going on? Forcing everyone present 115 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,485 in the room to take on a role of 116 00:08:19,485 --> 00:08:24,676 performing as part of the night. Dinner is 117 00:08:24,676 --> 00:08:26,207 something always happens at the 118 00:08:26,207 --> 00:08:29,060 exhibitions after opening, and I wanted 119 00:08:29,060 --> 00:08:31,094 that dinner actually to be the center part 120 00:08:31,094 --> 00:08:35,119 of the exhibition. I have made a ceramic 121 00:08:35,119 --> 00:08:38,914 head shape of every guest with their face 122 00:08:38,914 --> 00:08:42,326 on it, to turn their heads into plate and 123 00:08:42,326 --> 00:08:47,325 bowl for the night. I'm gonna break the 124 00:08:47,325 --> 00:08:53,305 guests' heads. It's time to give it up 125 00:08:55,921 --> 00:09:01,871 (hammer clanging) 126 00:09:02,159 --> 00:09:04,619 It just feels like wind 127 00:09:17,964 --> 00:09:19,774 It'll put all of them to do something 128 00:09:19,774 --> 00:09:21,925 that maybe they weren't expecting to be 129 00:09:21,925 --> 00:09:26,206 doing, you know? (people chattering) 130 00:09:34,308 --> 00:09:36,358 -(Hadi) As much as a critique of society, 131 00:09:37,114 --> 00:09:42,064 the critique of the art world, it's a 132 00:09:42,064 --> 00:09:49,793 of the artist, meaning myself too. I'm 133 00:09:49,793 --> 00:09:51,670 always also the butt of the joke, you 134 00:09:51,670 --> 00:10:03,176 know? (soft music) When you're in public, 135 00:10:03,176 --> 00:10:07,505 you are taking chances of people acting or 136 00:10:07,505 --> 00:10:09,510 responding in a way that you had not 137 00:10:09,510 --> 00:10:13,841 imagined. - Can I be in the movie? 138 00:10:14,175 --> 00:10:15,745 -Sure, you can. 139 00:10:17,033 --> 00:10:18,853 Looks like him, no? 140 00:10:22,073 --> 00:10:24,963 Do you wanna have this one? -Mm-hmm. 141 00:10:25,461 --> 00:10:30,531 (bright music) 142 00:10:30,785 --> 00:10:32,155 -(Hadi) Bye. 143 00:10:34,204 --> 00:10:38,254 It kind of frees you, allowing chance to 144 00:10:38,254 --> 00:10:41,554 play a role. It allows for that de-skilled 145 00:10:41,554 --> 00:10:44,392 -ness, for that imperfection to reappear 146 00:10:44,392 --> 00:10:49,173 again. (bright music)