0:00:00.000,0:00:45.620 music 0:00:55.090,0:00:56.520 Can I sit here? 0:01:06.505,0:01:07.485 Nice day, no? 0:01:14.079,0:01:17.009 music 0:01:17.449,0:01:18.159 You want one? 0:01:19.509,0:01:23.969 music 0:01:24.290,0:01:25.990 I think if you tell your parents, 0:01:25.990,0:01:27.016 I want to be a clown, 0:01:27.016,0:01:28.656 there is that quality of, oh no. 0:01:31.160,0:01:33.240 Is it possible that's also the case with 0:01:33.240,0:01:34.012 an artist 0:01:34.922,0:01:36.792 like, oh no, don't go that direction. 0:01:41.679,0:01:43.689 There is this risk of if your work is 0:01:43.689,0:01:46.175 funny or humorous, people don't take it 0:01:46.175,0:01:46.995 seriously. 0:01:49.271,0:01:51.001 Forget about a serious artist, 0:01:51.001,0:01:52.866 they don't even think you're an artist, 0:01:53.016,0:01:55.219 they think you're a clown, you know? 0:01:55.306,0:02:00.876 music 0:02:00.876,0:02:03.585 So I think that's the kind of fear that I 0:02:03.585,0:02:05.284 at some point I recognized 0:02:05.284,0:02:07.430 that maybe it was stopping me from what I 0:02:07.430,0:02:08.465 wanted to do. 0:02:09.627,0:02:12.047 So I was like, what will happen if I'm 0:02:12.047,0:02:16.792 also the clown? As an artist, you can't 0:02:16.792,0:02:19.392 escape not pointing the camera or the 0:02:19.657,0:02:24.717 finger at yourself. So I try to exaggerate 0:02:24.717,0:02:26.718 that aspect, so then I will be allowed to 0:02:26.718,0:02:28.740 also exaggerate everything else about the 0:02:28.740,0:02:29.458 society. 0:02:29.458,0:02:31.853 music 0:02:32.031,0:02:34.781 By doing that, I hope it'll allow the work 0:02:34.781,0:02:37.509 to be seen as not myself, but what's 0:02:37.509,0:02:40.404 surrounding me, the spectators of this 0:02:40.404,0:02:42.647 circus. (music) 0:03:05.210,0:03:07.981 I love that tension of who gets to tell 0:03:07.981,0:03:10.853 more truths, is it a clown in a circus who 0:03:10.853,0:03:13.318 can criticize a society or a serious 0:03:13.318,0:03:15.337 artist, let's say or a serious politician? 0:03:15.448,0:03:20.518 (music) 0:03:36.945,0:03:40.245 When you come to my studio, there are very 0:03:40.245,0:03:42.982 distinct, different works existing next to 0:03:42.982,0:03:47.626 each other. One thing about the realistic 0:03:47.626,0:03:50.351 painting is that it takes longer time, 0:03:50.351,0:03:53.817 it's more labor intensive, in 0:03:53.817,0:03:57.896 contradiction to this very quick stage of 0:03:57.896,0:04:00.542 the cartoonish work. They are living on 0:04:00.542,0:04:02.849 two different stages, extremely slow, 0:04:02.849,0:04:04.996 extremely fast, extremely detailed, 0:04:04.996,0:04:08.722 extremely undefiled, extremely skilled, 0:04:08.722,0:04:11.404 and very de-skilled version of them in 0:04:11.404,0:04:15.821 the cartoonish form. That kind of analogy 0:04:15.821,0:04:19.532 has found its way all over my work. 0:04:19.532,0:04:21.491 There is always this sense of two things 0:04:21.491,0:04:23.347 contradicting each other. There is two 0:04:23.347,0:04:25.462 energy, there is clash of two totally 0:04:25.462,0:04:28.104 different things resisting against each 0:04:28.104,0:04:30.118 other, and that's how the affect of what 0:04:30.118,0:04:34.503 I'm producing is made. It kind of tries to 0:04:34.503,0:04:36.554 resist this to this, maybe desire from the 0:04:36.554,0:04:41.021 society to see you as one, to frame you as 0:04:41.021,0:04:46.147 one. And I don't want to be that. (music) 0:05:09.144,0:05:12.544 In 2008, I was living in Iran, my path was 0:05:12.544,0:05:17.289 on another route. (spray gun hissing) 0:05:17.894,0:05:20.044 When I was growing up in Tehran, with the 0:05:20.044,0:05:22.656 educational system I had gone through, 0:05:22.656,0:05:24.248 there are limitations, you know? 0:05:24.248,0:05:26.181 What can you be, what can you do, you 0:05:26.181,0:05:28.214 know? Almost like just be happy with what 0:05:28.214,0:05:32.392 you are given. I was supposed to be an 0:05:32.392,0:05:36.974 aerospace engineer and I remember I fell 0:05:36.974,0:05:39.866 in love with cinema and with filmmaking. 0:05:43.186,0:05:45.586 The Iranian filmmakers that I would think 0:05:45.586,0:05:47.819 about, I had imagined, like, how the 0:05:47.819,0:05:50.354 directors are writing and coming up with 0:05:50.354,0:05:53.328 the stories, telling the stories of us 0:05:53.328,0:05:57.750 back to us. (music) 0:06:00.249,0:06:02.794 I realized, oh my god, there is a world 0:06:02.794,0:06:05.632 even more free than filmmaking which is 0:06:05.632,0:06:08.319 the visual art. And I knew at that point 0:06:08.319,0:06:14.067 that I'm going to be a visual artist. Do 0:06:14.067,0:06:23.015 you want? Here. Lemme just do it for you. 0:06:23.015,0:06:24.370 (lighter flicking) 0:06:29.785,0:06:32.015 What I like to imagine is that everything 0:06:32.015,0:06:35.791 I make in the studio, it comes to life. It 0:06:35.791,0:06:37.811 give like that soul to it when it's on 0:06:37.811,0:06:41.904 display to the public. Oh, this is bad. 0:06:44.026,0:06:50.366 Oh, this is bad. It's bad for your health 0:06:50.366,0:06:54.366 too. (soft music) 0:06:57.633,0:06:59.497 The Breakers is one of the grandest 0:06:59.497,0:07:04.100 mansions of Newport. It has been turned 0:07:04.100,0:07:07.840 to a museum and it's the first time a 0:07:07.840,0:07:10.552 contemporary exhibition is being set up 0:07:10.552,0:07:15.027 inside. (soft music) 0:07:22.060,0:07:24.741 I pick the head, I will ask you to hold it 0:07:25.022,0:07:27.709 or any one of you guys that are there. You 0:07:27.709,0:07:30.252 will hold it, I will have my hammer. 0:07:30.252,0:07:31.125 -So once he puts 0:07:31.125,0:07:33.194 -Yes - the pieces down, then we go out and 0:07:33.194,0:07:35.255 get the food. -Exactly. -Exactly. -The 0:07:35.255,0:07:37.365 people you have been serving, you just 0:07:37.365,0:07:39.231 come between them and you will use your 0:07:39.231,0:07:41.371 flashlight. It's totally fine to suddenly 0:07:41.371,0:07:43.382 sit down and look under the table or look 0:07:43.382,0:07:45.493 at the elephant. -Okay. We're looking for 0:07:45.493,0:07:47.822 something. -Yeah, searching for 0:07:47.822,0:07:49.395 something. Exactly. A lot of my 0:07:49.395,0:07:51.388 performance have this sense of like a 0:07:51.388,0:07:54.278 dream scenario. Things being tiny bit 0:07:54.278,0:07:56.714 funny, and things being tiny bit sad or 0:07:56.714,0:08:00.521 out of place. You want to laugh at it and 0:08:00.521,0:08:02.313 you might feel bad by laughing at the 0:08:02.313,0:08:06.978 artist. I like that confusion of, hey, 0:08:06.978,0:08:16.520 what's going on? Forcing everyone present 0:08:16.520,0:08:19.485 in the room to take on a role of 0:08:19.485,0:08:24.676 performing as part of the night. Dinner is 0:08:24.676,0:08:26.207 something always happens at the 0:08:26.207,0:08:29.060 exhibitions after opening, and I wanted 0:08:29.060,0:08:31.094 that dinner actually to be the center part 0:08:31.094,0:08:35.119 of the exhibition. I have made a ceramic 0:08:35.119,0:08:38.914 head shape of every guest with their face 0:08:38.914,0:08:42.326 on it, to turn their heads into plate and 0:08:42.326,0:08:47.325 bowl for the night. I'm gonna break the 0:08:47.325,0:08:53.305 guests' heads. It's time to give it up 0:08:55.921,0:09:01.871 (hammer clanging) 0:09:02.159,0:09:04.619 It just feels like wind 0:09:17.964,0:09:19.774 It'll put all of them to do something 0:09:19.774,0:09:21.925 that maybe they weren't expecting to be 0:09:21.925,0:09:26.206 doing, you know? (people chattering) 0:09:34.308,0:09:36.358 -(Hadi) As much as a critique of society, 0:09:37.114,0:09:42.064 the critique of the art world, it's a 0:09:42.064,0:09:49.793 of the artist, meaning myself too. I'm 0:09:49.793,0:09:51.670 always also the butt of the joke, you 0:09:51.670,0:10:03.176 know? (soft music) When you're in public, 0:10:03.176,0:10:07.505 you are taking chances of people acting or 0:10:07.505,0:10:09.510 responding in a way that you had not 0:10:09.510,0:10:13.841 imagined. - Can I be in the movie? 0:10:14.175,0:10:15.745 -Sure, you can. 0:10:17.033,0:10:18.853 Looks like him, no? 0:10:22.073,0:10:24.963 Do you wanna have this one? -Mm-hmm. 0:10:25.461,0:10:30.531 (bright music) 0:10:30.785,0:10:32.155 -(Hadi) Bye. 0:10:34.204,0:10:38.254 It kind of frees you, allowing chance to 0:10:38.254,0:10:41.554 play a role. It allows for that de-skilled 0:10:41.554,0:10:44.392 -ness, for that imperfection to reappear 0:10:44.392,0:10:49.173 again. (bright music)