WEBVTT 00:00:00.375 --> 00:00:03.125 (ethereal music) 00:00:54.870 --> 00:00:56.078 - Can I sit here? 00:01:06.420 --> 00:01:07.711 Nice day, no? 00:01:13.834 --> 00:01:15.642 (bright music) 00:01:17.509 --> 00:01:18.778 You want one? 00:01:18.778 --> 00:01:21.361 (bright music) 00:01:24.180 --> 00:01:26.880 I think if you tell your parents, I want to be a clown, 00:01:26.880 --> 00:01:28.830 there is that quality of, oh no. 00:01:31.340 --> 00:01:33.890 Is it possible that's also the case with an artist, 00:01:34.770 --> 00:01:37.383 like, oh no, don't go that direction. 00:01:41.580 --> 00:01:44.723 There is this risk of if your work is funny or humorous, 00:01:45.606 --> 00:01:48.133 people don't take it seriously. 00:01:48.133 --> 00:01:50.310 (bright music) 00:01:50.310 --> 00:01:51.540 Forget about a serious artist, 00:01:51.540 --> 00:01:52.560 they don't even think you're an artist , 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:54.803 they think you're a clown, you know? 00:01:54.803 --> 00:01:59.803 (bright music) (cardboard thuds) 00:02:01.800 --> 00:02:03.720 So I think that's the kind of fear that I, 00:02:03.720 --> 00:02:04.890 at some point I recognized 00:02:04.890 --> 00:02:08.103 that maybe it was stopping me from what I wanted to do. 00:02:09.685 --> 00:02:12.543 So I was like, what will happen if I'm also the clown? 00:02:16.590 --> 00:02:18.450 As an artist, you can't escape 00:02:18.450 --> 00:02:21.813 not pointing the camera or the finger at yourself. 00:02:23.010 --> 00:02:24.540 So I try to exaggerate that aspect, 00:02:24.540 --> 00:02:26.340 so then I will be allowed to also exaggerate 00:02:26.340 --> 00:02:27.684 everything else about the society. 00:02:27.684 --> 00:02:30.351 (bright music) 00:02:32.850 --> 00:02:35.490 By doing that, I hope it'll allow the work 00:02:35.490 --> 00:02:38.940 to be seen as not myself, but what's surrounding me, 00:02:38.940 --> 00:02:42.613 the spectators of this circus. (bright music) 00:03:05.157 --> 00:03:08.400 I love that tension of who gets to tell more truths, 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:12.390 is it a clown in a circus who can criticize a society 00:03:12.390 --> 00:03:15.352 or a serious artist, let's say, or a serious politician? 00:03:15.352 --> 00:03:18.019 (bright music) 00:03:37.055 --> 00:03:40.410 When you come to my studio, there are very distinct, 00:03:40.410 --> 00:03:43.323 different works existing next to each other. 00:03:46.770 --> 00:03:48.120 One thing about the realistic painting 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:51.423 is that it takes a longer time, it's more labor intensive, 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:57.145 in contradiction to this very quick 00:03:57.145 --> 00:03:59.760 stage of the cartoonish work. 00:03:59.760 --> 00:04:01.680 They are living on two different stages, 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:03.420 extremely slow, extremely fast, 00:04:03.420 --> 00:04:06.123 extremely detailed, extremely un-detailed, 00:04:07.140 --> 00:04:10.770 extremely skilled, and very de-skilled version of them 00:04:10.770 --> 00:04:11.920 in the cartoonish form. 00:04:15.150 --> 00:04:19.260 That kind of analogy has found its way all over my work. 00:04:19.260 --> 00:04:20.220 There is always this sense of 00:04:20.220 --> 00:04:21.690 two things contradicting each other. 00:04:21.690 --> 00:04:23.280 There is two energy, there is a clash 00:04:23.280 --> 00:04:26.430 of two totally different things 00:04:26.430 --> 00:04:27.630 resisting against each other, 00:04:27.630 --> 00:04:30.813 and that's how the affect of what I'm producing is made. 00:04:33.660 --> 00:04:35.940 It kind of tries to resist to this, 00:04:35.940 --> 00:04:39.408 maybe desire from the society to see you as one, 00:04:41.130 --> 00:04:42.770 to frame you as one. 00:04:44.340 --> 00:04:47.025 And I don't want to be that. (soft music) 00:05:08.930 --> 00:05:13.930 In 2008, I was living in Iran, my path was on another route. 00:05:14.992 --> 00:05:18.240 (spray gun hissing) 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:19.530 When I was growing up in Tehran, 00:05:19.530 --> 00:05:22.560 with the educational system I had gone through, 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:23.790 there are limitations, you know? 00:05:23.790 --> 00:05:26.100 What can you be, what can you do, you know? 00:05:26.100 --> 00:05:28.650 Almost like just be happy with what you are given. 00:05:31.860 --> 00:05:34.600 I was supposed to be an aerospace engineer 00:05:36.660 --> 00:05:38.880 and I remember I fell in love with cinema 00:05:38.880 --> 00:05:40.216 and with filmmaking. 00:05:43.590 --> 00:05:46.680 The Iranian filmmakers that I would think about, 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:49.560 I had imagined, like, how the directors are writing 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:51.780 and coming up with the stories, 00:05:51.780 --> 00:05:54.656 telling the stories of us back to us. 00:05:54.656 --> 00:05:57.073 (soft music) 00:06:00.660 --> 00:06:02.070 I realized, oh my god, 00:06:02.070 --> 00:06:04.230 there is a world even more free than filmmaking, 00:06:04.230 --> 00:06:05.613 which is the visual art. 00:06:06.690 --> 00:06:07.740 And I knew at that point 00:06:07.740 --> 00:06:09.590 that I'm going to be a visual artist. 00:06:14.071 --> 00:06:15.071 Do you want? 00:06:16.260 --> 00:06:17.093 Here. 00:06:22.200 --> 00:06:25.643 Lemme just do it for you. (lighter flicking) 00:06:30.570 --> 00:06:31.440 What I like to imagine 00:06:31.440 --> 00:06:35.730 is that everything I make in the studio, it comes to life. 00:06:35.730 --> 00:06:37.312 It gives like that soul to it 00:06:37.312 --> 00:06:39.103 when it's on display to the public. 00:06:40.980 --> 00:06:41.943 Oh, this is bad. 00:06:44.010 --> 00:06:44.843 Oh, this is bad. 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:51.791 It's bad for your health too. 00:06:51.791 --> 00:06:54.208 (soft music) 00:06:57.870 --> 00:07:00.993 The Breakers is one of the grandest mansions of Newport. 00:07:03.870 --> 00:07:06.480 It has been turned to a museum 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:08.940 and it's the first time a contemporary exhibition 00:07:08.940 --> 00:07:11.570 is being set up inside. 00:07:11.570 --> 00:07:13.987 (soft music) 00:07:22.170 --> 00:07:24.960 I pick the head, I will ask you to hold it, 00:07:24.960 --> 00:07:27.180 or any one of you guys that they are there. 00:07:27.180 --> 00:07:29.730 You will hold it, I will have my hammer. 00:07:29.730 --> 00:07:30.563 - So once he puts 00:07:30.563 --> 00:07:31.950 - Yes. - the pieces down, 00:07:31.950 --> 00:07:33.120 then we go out and get the food. 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:34.710 - Exactly. - Exactly. 00:07:34.710 --> 00:07:35.730 - The people you have been serving, 00:07:35.730 --> 00:07:39.240 you just come between them and you will use your flashlight. 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:40.800 It's totally fine to suddenly sit down 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:42.476 and look under the table 00:07:42.476 --> 00:07:43.770 or look at the elephant. - Okay. 00:07:43.770 --> 00:07:44.603 We're looking for something. 00:07:44.603 --> 00:07:45.548 - Yeah, searching for something. 00:07:45.548 --> 00:07:46.860 Exactly. 00:07:46.860 --> 00:07:47.820 A lot of my performance 00:07:47.820 --> 00:07:50.793 have this sense of like a dream scenario. 00:07:53.370 --> 00:07:56.280 Things being tiny bit funny, and things being tiny bit sad 00:07:56.280 --> 00:07:57.723 or out of place. 00:07:59.730 --> 00:08:01.230 You want to laugh at it and you might feel bad 00:08:01.230 --> 00:08:03.183 by laughing at the artist. 00:08:06.060 --> 00:08:09.873 I like that confusion of, hey, what's going on? 00:08:15.900 --> 00:08:17.670 Forcing everyone present in the room 00:08:17.670 --> 00:08:21.423 to take on a role of performing as part of the night. 00:08:24.420 --> 00:08:26.400 Dinner is something always happens at the exhibitions 00:08:26.400 --> 00:08:29.580 after opening, and I wanted that dinner actually 00:08:29.580 --> 00:08:31.773 to be the center part of the exhibition. 00:08:34.170 --> 00:08:36.720 I have made a ceramic head shape 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:39.603 of every guest with their face on it, 00:08:40.500 --> 00:08:43.533 to turn their heads into plate and bowl for the night. 00:08:46.830 --> 00:08:48.603 I'm gonna break the guests' heads. 00:08:51.658 --> 00:08:55.521 ♪ It's time that we give it up ♪ 00:08:55.521 --> 00:08:58.354 (hammer clanging) 00:09:10.769 --> 00:09:14.269 ♪ It just feels like wind ♪ 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:19.830 It'll put all of them to do something 00:09:19.830 --> 00:09:21.300 that maybe they weren't expecting 00:09:21.300 --> 00:09:22.426 to be doing, you know? 00:09:27.623 --> 00:09:30.623 (people chattering) 00:09:34.380 --> 00:09:36.513 - [Hadi] As much as a critique of society, 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:39.153 the critique of the art world, 00:09:41.910 --> 00:09:45.963 it's a critique of the artist, meaning myself too. 00:09:49.680 --> 00:09:51.818 I'm always also the butt of the joke, you know? 00:09:51.818 --> 00:09:54.235 (soft music) 00:10:02.790 --> 00:10:06.240 When you're in public, you are taking chances 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:08.235 of people acting or responding 00:10:08.235 --> 00:10:09.903 in a way that you had not imagined. 00:10:12.810 --> 00:10:14.910 - Can I be in the movie? - Sure, you can. 00:10:17.490 --> 00:10:18.882 Looks like him, no? 00:10:22.590 --> 00:10:24.323 Do you wanna have this one? - Mm-hmm. 00:10:25.515 --> 00:10:28.098 (bright music) 00:10:31.110 --> 00:10:31.943 - [Hadi] Bye. 00:10:34.620 --> 00:10:35.823 It kind of frees you, 00:10:36.870 --> 00:10:39.033 allowing chance to play a role. 00:10:40.260 --> 00:10:42.120 It allows for that de-skilled-ness, 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:45.164 for that imperfection to reappear again. 00:10:45.164 --> 00:10:46.372 (bright music)