1 00:00:06,025 --> 00:00:10,042 After interviewing thousands of poor farmers 2 00:00:10,042 --> 00:00:17,002 in countries like Nepal, Bangladesh, China, México, and Zambia 3 00:00:17,002 --> 00:00:21,061 I’ve learned that practical solutions to extreme poverty 4 00:00:21,061 --> 00:00:25,085 can only come from listening to poor people themselves 5 00:00:25,085 --> 00:00:30,056 not from the army of poverty experts in the world. 6 00:00:30,056 --> 00:00:34,071 I’ve developed 12 practical steps for problem solving 7 00:00:34,071 --> 00:00:38,053 that have helped 17 million people move out of poverty 8 00:00:38,053 --> 00:00:42,060 and into the middle class forever. 9 00:00:42,060 --> 00:00:47,064 These 12 steps apply equally well to finding practical solutions 10 00:00:47,064 --> 00:00:51,080 to the big social problems you may be working on. 11 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:57,067 I’ve described these 12 steps in my book, Out of Poverty. 12 00:00:57,067 --> 00:00:59,077 For the last five years I’ve been working on a book 13 00:00:59,077 --> 00:01:02,028 and I’ve finally finished it. 14 00:01:02,028 --> 00:01:07,077 It took me five years to write a measly 200 pages. 15 00:01:07,077 --> 00:01:11,009 The book is called Out of Poverty: 16 00:01:11,009 --> 00:01:17,088 What works when traditional approaches fail. 17 00:01:17,088 --> 00:01:21,040 I really wrote the book to create a revolution 18 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:26,035 in how we think about poverty and what we do about it. 19 00:01:26,035 --> 00:01:32,037 It won’t create the revolution by itself but I hope it helps. 20 00:01:32,037 --> 00:01:39,074 For the past 25 years two questions have plagued my curiosity. 21 00:01:39,074 --> 00:01:42,055 What makes poor people poor? 22 00:01:42,055 --> 00:01:47,081 And what can they do about it? 23 00:01:47,081 --> 00:01:51,007 Because of these two infernal questions, 24 00:01:51,007 --> 00:01:58,058 I’ve had long conversations with thousands of one acre farmers in developing countries. 25 00:01:58,058 --> 00:02:02,016 What I learned made it possible for IDE, 26 00:02:02,016 --> 00:02:05,085 the development organization I started 25 years ago, 27 00:02:05,085 --> 00:02:13,009 to help 17 million $1-a-day people move out of poverty forever. 28 00:02:13,009 --> 00:02:17,013 The first three steps to practical problem solving are 29 00:02:17,013 --> 00:02:23,006 probably the most obvious, the most simple, and the least frequently followed. 30 00:02:23,006 --> 00:02:29,004 The first is go to where the action is. 31 00:02:29,004 --> 00:02:31,020 You can’t sit in your office at the World Bank 32 00:02:31,020 --> 00:02:38,004 and figure out how to solve the problem of poverty in Myanmar. 33 00:02:38,004 --> 00:02:41,091 Step 2, talk to the people who have the problem 34 00:02:41,091 --> 00:02:45,069 and listen to what they have to say. 35 00:02:45,069 --> 00:02:51,021 In the 1990s, agriculture experts in Bangladesh were dismayed 36 00:02:51,021 --> 00:02:58,053 at the tiny amounts of fertilizer small farmers in Bangladesh were applying to their monsoon rice crops. 37 00:02:58,053 --> 00:03:03,084 They set up intensive farmer education programs but nothing worked. 38 00:03:03,084 --> 00:03:08,084 Finally, somebody asked a couple of farmers why they use so little fertilizer. 39 00:03:08,084 --> 00:03:10,024 “That’s easy,” they said. 40 00:03:10,024 --> 00:03:15,056 “Every year 10 years or so we have a major flood that wipes out everything we plant. ..." 41 00:03:15,056 --> 00:03:22,035 "... So we only use as much fertilizer as we can afford to lose in a 10 year flood.” 42 00:03:22,035 --> 00:03:30,053 All of a sudden these farmers were transformed from ignorant, superstitious peasants, 43 00:03:30,053 --> 00:03:35,037 to people who could teach the agricultural experts a thing or two. 44 00:03:35,037 --> 00:03:41,064 Step 3, learn everything there is to know about the problem’s specific context. 45 00:03:41,064 --> 00:03:44,065 The specific context of 800 million 46 00:03:44,065 --> 00:03:48,078 of the 1.2 billion people in the world who live on less than $2 a day, 47 00:03:48,078 --> 00:03:55,009 is a tiny farm with poor soils, and no irrigation. 48 00:03:55,009 --> 00:03:57,003 These farms are typically one acre, 49 00:03:57,003 --> 00:04:02,000 and split into 4 or 5 separate scattered plots. 50 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,091 So here’s the fourth point, 51 00:04:03,091 --> 00:04:09,042 if you come up with a solution to a problem there is no reason to be modest. 52 00:04:09,042 --> 00:04:14,088 Some of the biggest problems in the world really require big solutions, 53 00:04:14,088 --> 00:04:21,079 which are really small solutions applied thousands and thousands of times. 54 00:04:21,079 --> 00:04:24,088 Step 5, think like a child. 55 00:04:24,088 --> 00:04:31,028 It’s a little bit ironic that thinking big and thinking like a child go together, but they do. 56 00:04:31,028 --> 00:04:38,098 You have to think like a child to find the obvious solution to a big problem that people have missed. 57 00:04:38,098 --> 00:04:43,033 Step 6, see and do the obvious. 58 00:04:43,033 --> 00:04:48,020 If we can’t see our blind spots how can we see and do the obvious? 59 00:04:48,020 --> 00:04:53,002 Immersing yourself in the problem helps. 60 00:04:53,002 --> 00:04:58,066 Step 7, if somebody already invented it you don’t have to. 61 00:04:58,066 --> 00:05:05,005 It’s easy these days to look for solutions that other people may have already come up with. 62 00:05:05,005 --> 00:05:15,063 Step 8, make sure your approach has positive measurable impacts that can be brought to scale. 63 00:05:15,063 --> 00:05:21,072 Step 9, design to specific price targets. 64 00:05:21,072 --> 00:05:27,014 Affordability rules the design process for poor customers. 65 00:05:27,014 --> 00:05:31,001 Number 10, follow practical 3 year plans. 66 00:05:31,001 --> 00:05:36,038 No matter how powerful and world changing your vision for the future is, 67 00:05:36,038 --> 00:05:42,024 unless you can translate it into an effective work plan for the first three years, 68 00:05:42,024 --> 00:05:46,003 you’ll never get there. 69 00:05:46,003 --> 00:05:52,067 Step 11, continue to learn from your customers. 70 00:05:52,067 --> 00:05:58,079 When I started IDE I decided I would interview at least 100 customers a year 71 00:05:58,079 --> 00:06:00,037 and I’ve done that. 72 00:06:00,037 --> 00:06:07,075 At this point I’ve interviewed more than 3000 poor farm families, 73 00:06:07,075 --> 00:06:12,019 and walked around with them through their farms. 74 00:06:12,019 --> 00:06:15,006 When they told me that they’ve invested 75 00:06:15,006 --> 00:06:16,084 their new income from a treadle pump 76 00:06:16,084 --> 00:06:19,080 in the education of their kids, 77 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,010 we designed a $12 solar lantern 78 00:06:22,010 --> 00:06:26,012 so their kids could read at night. 79 00:06:26,012 --> 00:06:27,045 When they said they invested 80 00:06:27,045 --> 00:06:30,077 some of their money from a drip system 81 00:06:30,077 --> 00:06:34,041 in a milk buffalo or in some goats, 82 00:06:34,041 --> 00:06:37,090 we learned everything there was to learn about small livestock 83 00:06:37,090 --> 00:06:44,089 and started helping farmers with small livestock operations. 84 00:06:44,089 --> 00:06:49,038 Number 12, don’t be distracted by what other people say. 85 00:06:49,038 --> 00:06:52,024 Just about everything that I have worked on 86 00:06:52,024 --> 00:06:55,030 that has turned out to be a smashing success, 87 00:06:55,030 --> 00:07:00,058 I’ve heard many people tell me that I was wasting my time. 88 00:07:00,058 --> 00:07:03,045 One and a half million treadle pumps later, 89 00:07:03,045 --> 00:07:10,035 we have 750 thousand acres newly under irrigation. 90 00:07:10,035 --> 00:07:14,089 If I had listened to people who told me it was a waste of time, 91 00:07:14,089 --> 00:07:17,045 we never have gotten there. 92 00:07:17,045 --> 00:07:20,068 If you’re willing to go out on a limb, 93 00:07:20,068 --> 00:07:25,058 visit the people who have the problem, in their real life setting 94 00:07:25,058 --> 00:07:30,018 and listen to what they have to say, 95 00:07:30,018 --> 00:07:31,038 and most importantly, 96 00:07:31,038 --> 00:07:34,041 have a keen interest in learning new things, 97 00:07:34,041 --> 00:07:36,073 then this approach is for you. 98 00:07:36,073 --> 00:07:39,099 If you and your group decide the best thing you can do is donate money, 99 00:07:39,099 --> 00:07:43,076 make sure you pick organizations that have measurable impacts, 100 00:07:43,076 --> 00:07:47,035 like poverty organizations that increase the income 101 00:07:47,035 --> 00:08:25,073 of people who live on less than a dollar a day.