1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,600 Of all of the controversial topics I've covered, nothing has drawn the ire of the internet 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,250 as much as questioning the ethics of horseback riding. 3 00:00:07,250 --> 00:00:10,534 In the years since my first video on this topic, I've realized a few things. 4 00:00:10,534 --> 00:00:11,034 One: 5 00:00:11,034 --> 00:00:11,534 horse 6 00:00:11,534 --> 00:00:12,100 people 7 00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:12,600 are 8 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:13,960 passionate. 9 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,785 And two: there’s a lot I failed to address. 10 00:00:16,785 --> 00:00:20,439 In fact, I've been rethinking my approach to this debate entirely. 11 00:00:20,439 --> 00:00:22,330 So, is horse riding cruel? 12 00:00:22,330 --> 00:00:23,349 It is vegan? 13 00:00:23,349 --> 00:00:26,156 And is there any ethical way to ride a horse? 14 00:00:26,156 --> 00:00:27,161 (cracks neck) 15 00:00:28,534 --> 00:00:29,734 Let's do this 16 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,710 Hi, it's Emily from BiteSizeVegan.org, where you can find all the sources for this video, 17 00:00:39,710 --> 00:00:42,309 and my entire Horse Riding Ethics series. 18 00:00:42,309 --> 00:00:47,071 Before we discuss whether horse riding is cruel, I want you to think about another question entirely: 19 00:00:47,071 --> 00:00:49,239 Are horses meant to be ridden? 20 00:00:49,239 --> 00:00:53,500 You see, the question of whether horse riding is cruel tends to result in heated debate 21 00:00:53,500 --> 00:00:58,109 over which methods or schools of riding are best, with riders insisting that horse riding 22 00:00:58,109 --> 00:01:00,760 is not harmful if done "correctly." 23 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:05,470 Any physical or emotional harm caused by riding horses is due to inexperienced riders, poor 24 00:01:05,470 --> 00:01:08,270 use of equipment, or any other number of factors. 25 00:01:08,270 --> 00:01:15,030 But all of this debate over how to ride horses "properly" presupposes that there is an acceptable 26 00:01:15,030 --> 00:01:18,920 way to use another being for our own purposes. 27 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:24,509 Even the very question of whether horse riding is cruel risks implying that the only problem 28 00:01:24,509 --> 00:01:27,259 with riding horses is whether they suffer. 29 00:01:27,259 --> 00:01:31,700 The foundational ethical issue with horseback riding isn't whether it hurts horses 30 00:01:31,700 --> 00:01:35,350 —it's the presumption that they are ours to use in the first place. 31 00:01:35,350 --> 00:01:38,020 That horses are meant to be ridden. 32 00:01:38,020 --> 00:01:41,700 We'll explore this further throughout this video, but I wanted to plant this seed before 33 00:01:41,700 --> 00:01:46,030 we get too lost in the weeds—and before the vast majority of YouTube viewers leave 34 00:01:46,030 --> 00:01:47,500 the video entirely. 35 00:01:47,500 --> 00:01:49,301 (And they're gone...) 36 00:01:49,301 --> 00:01:53,981 Let's start by addressing head-on four common arguments in defense of riding horses. 37 00:01:53,981 --> 00:01:58,320 The most basic argument in the defence of riding horses is that horses need exercise. 38 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:03,079 This also comes with the most basic refutation: so do dogs, cats, and human children—yet 39 00:02:03,079 --> 00:02:06,601 we've somehow found a way to provide such necessary physical activity 40 00:02:06,601 --> 00:02:09,629 without mounting any of them. 41 00:02:09,629 --> 00:02:12,750 Yes, horses—like all animals—need exercise. 42 00:02:12,750 --> 00:02:18,629 And if riding them is the only way they are allowed to receive that exercise, then yes—it's 43 00:02:18,629 --> 00:02:23,910 more beneficial than being stuck in a stall 24/7 But the choice of being ridden or receiving 44 00:02:23,910 --> 00:02:27,310 no exercise at all is a human-created false dichotomy. 45 00:02:27,310 --> 00:02:31,337 The reason horses even need humans to provide them with exercise 46 00:02:31,337 --> 00:02:34,940 is that we have confined them in the first place. 47 00:02:34,940 --> 00:02:39,340 A second argument is that riding provides horses with an enriched environment and stimulation. 48 00:02:39,340 --> 00:02:45,390 As with exercise, these are valid needs of any living being—and fully achievable without 49 00:02:45,390 --> 00:02:47,319 being mounted by a human. 50 00:02:47,319 --> 00:02:53,500 Again, if horses weren’t deprived of enrichment and stimulation by humans in the first place, 51 00:02:53,500 --> 00:02:57,349 they wouldn’t need to be given enrichment and stimulation by humans. 52 00:02:57,349 --> 00:03:01,550 Now, I know I've been a bit flippant in my responses to the first two arguments, but 53 00:03:01,550 --> 00:03:05,500 I'm going to take some time on the final two because they speak to profoundly important 54 00:03:05,500 --> 00:03:09,530 dynamics in how we conceptualize our relationships with horses. 55 00:03:09,530 --> 00:03:14,459 The assertion that horses enjoy being ridden comes in many forms, but almost always starts 56 00:03:14,459 --> 00:03:19,940 with "but my horse loves..." and insert: being ridden, going to shows, wearing a bridle, 57 00:03:19,940 --> 00:03:22,500 having a bit, running the barrels, and what have you. 58 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:26,080 Horse riding advocates describe how excited their horses are when they see it's time to 59 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:31,159 go for a ride, listing behavioral signs of enjoyment versus those indicating distress. 60 00:03:31,159 --> 00:03:34,530 Rather than debate the meaning of equine body language, let's assume—for a moment—that 61 00:03:34,530 --> 00:03:37,269 a horse does show excitement about being ridden. 62 00:03:37,269 --> 00:03:42,730 This excitement has to be viewed within the context of the limitations we've placed upon the horse 63 00:03:42,730 --> 00:03:44,770 What else do they have to look forward to? 64 00:03:44,770 --> 00:03:49,550 When your options are staying in a stall or getting to go outside—albeit while being 65 00:03:49,550 --> 00:03:51,980 ridden—which would you choose? 66 00:03:51,980 --> 00:03:56,997 Adapting to the limits of confinement is a survival mechanism in all animals—humans included 67 00:03:56,997 --> 00:04:01,739 Think of how imprisoned people find ingenious ways to fulfill the need for social and communal 68 00:04:01,739 --> 00:04:04,629 interaction, intellectual stimulation, and physical activity. 69 00:04:04,629 --> 00:04:09,099 They may very well come to enjoy any time they have outside their cell and excitedly 70 00:04:09,099 --> 00:04:14,079 anticipate things that, to non-imprisoned people, seem trivial or even unappealing. 71 00:04:14,079 --> 00:04:18,470 But within the limited framework of confinement, they adapt to stay sane. 72 00:04:18,470 --> 00:04:23,090 This re-frames the issue entirely to the ethics of domestication itself—something explored 73 00:04:23,090 --> 00:04:27,280 by former horse trainer, trader, and rider Ren Hurst in my interview with her: 74 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:32,570 Most people have no idea that the animals they are spending time with are in an absolute 75 00:04:32,570 --> 00:04:37,756 state of learned helplessness, of conditioning, that doesn’t even allow you to experience their true nature. 76 00:04:37,756 --> 00:04:43,250 What you are experiencing is like this empty shell version... of the animal in front of you 77 00:04:43,250 --> 00:04:48,800 Even if we could accurately determine consent from other species, true consent cannot be 78 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,720 freely given under unequal power dynamics and constraints. 79 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,430 This leads us to what I think may be the most painful defense for riders to confront: 80 00:04:57,430 --> 00:05:01,840 the love they feel for their horses, and the deep emotional bond formed through riding. 81 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:06,030 To those of you who ride horses: I do believe that you love them. 82 00:05:06,030 --> 00:05:10,270 I do believe that you feel a deep emotional connection to them. 83 00:05:10,270 --> 00:05:17,229 And I believe that the depth of that love is precisely what makes it so profoundly painful 84 00:05:17,229 --> 00:05:20,419 to question the true nature of your relationship with them. 85 00:05:20,419 --> 00:05:24,790 I also understand the resistance to having that bond questioned by me—someone with 86 00:05:24,790 --> 00:05:26,540 no background in horse riding. 87 00:05:26,540 --> 00:05:28,620 So, I’ll again defer to Ren Hurst, 88 00:05:28,620 --> 00:05:33,900 You have to almost experience a truly free horse… otherwise, your perception of what 89 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:37,520 horses are and how they behave is really skewed. 90 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:42,199 This is a being you have placed in your control and in your care, and then you call that “love.” 91 00:05:42,199 --> 00:05:47,880 I mean, there’s nothing “loving” about using someone for your own personal benefit. 92 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,400 That’s not a loving relationship, and it’s not an equal relationship. 93 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:58,275 Riding horses involves using non-human animals for entertainment, emotional fulfillment—even love. 94 00:05:58,275 --> 00:06:03,190 But using someone for love is still using someone. 95 00:06:03,190 --> 00:06:06,850 Now that we've touched on some of the principal defenses for riding horses, let's explore 96 00:06:06,850 --> 00:06:08,930 the main arguments against horse riding. 97 00:06:08,930 --> 00:06:13,660 I'll be honest: the most common arguments against horseback riding—which I myself 98 00:06:13,660 --> 00:06:18,479 focused upon in my original video and article on this topic—all center upon the physical 99 00:06:18,479 --> 00:06:20,720 harm riding inflicts upon horses. 100 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,210 Yes, it's important to address the physical consequences horses endure. 101 00:06:24,210 --> 00:06:29,710 But focusing exclusively on their physical suffering as the reason to stop riding horses 102 00:06:29,710 --> 00:06:32,880 misses the greater ethical issues entirely. 103 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,460 Instead of questioning our use of horses in the first place, we end up nitpicking the 104 00:06:37,460 --> 00:06:42,720 appropriate terms of their exploitation: arguing about the best and worst methods of riding, 105 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,980 the proper and improper use of equipment, et cetera. 106 00:06:44,980 --> 00:06:51,500 It is the very same trap of all animal welfarism, like humane, free-range, and cage-free labels. 107 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:57,000 Our right to use these beings is seen as a foregone conclusion—the only thing we question 108 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,370 is the "acceptable" ways in which we can use them. 109 00:07:00,370 --> 00:07:04,889 With that caveat stated, let's look at the physical impact of horseback riding on horses 110 00:07:04,889 --> 00:07:07,740 before further exploring the vegan animal rights perspective. 111 00:07:07,740 --> 00:07:11,800 The short answer is yes, horse riding does hurt horses. 112 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,930 Now, The exact nature and degree of the harm, the precise causality, and proposed methods 113 00:07:16,930 --> 00:07:21,132 by which such harm may be mitigated is a long-standing contentious debate 114 00:07:21,132 --> 00:07:23,370 that shows no signs of resolution. 115 00:07:23,370 --> 00:07:27,720 A major problem with the scientific and medical literature is that it is conducted through 116 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,980 the lens of minimizing the harm of horse use in order to prolong that use. 117 00:07:32,980 --> 00:07:37,400 It is also framed within the unquestioned constraints we've placed upon horses. 118 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,610 Before we get into more detail, I want to again urge you to take a step back and think 119 00:07:41,610 --> 00:07:47,699 about another question entirely: if so much has to be done "correctly" to minimize the 120 00:07:47,699 --> 00:07:53,900 harm of riding horses, and no one can actually agree on what that "correct" formula is, and 121 00:07:53,900 --> 00:07:57,885 riding horses is entirely unnecessary in the first place— 122 00:07:57,885 --> 00:08:03,301 why are we still so insistent on doing this to them? 123 00:08:03,301 --> 00:08:06,930 For the horse racing industry, the answer is clear: money. 124 00:08:06,930 --> 00:08:10,224 But for the individual rider—for the horse lover— 125 00:08:10,224 --> 00:08:14,009 stop to question why you feel you need to ride. 126 00:08:14,009 --> 00:08:18,910 The majority of blog posts and informal articles I came across discussing whether riding hurts 127 00:08:18,910 --> 00:08:21,349 horses were written by riders. 128 00:08:21,349 --> 00:08:27,215 People who obviously have concern that their actions are adversely impacting the beings they love. 129 00:08:27,381 --> 00:08:34,080 Yet those posts went on to catalog—sometimes in extensive detail—how, exactly, to make 130 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,160 the riding experience as enjoyable as possible for your horse. 131 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,330 How to minimize injury and distress. 132 00:08:41,330 --> 00:08:46,320 Some echo the journey of Ren Hurst, progressively using less and less horse tack and adopting 133 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:53,149 more gentle methods, all in an effort to find a justifiable way to still use horses. 134 00:08:53,149 --> 00:08:56,990 So, let's follow this path and start with the harm of horse tack. 135 00:08:56,990 --> 00:09:02,810 If you’re not familiar, horse tack refers to the equipment and accessories used on domesticated horses. 136 00:09:02,810 --> 00:09:05,700 This includes things like saddles, bits, bridles, and whips. 137 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:09,880 It's worth noting that most horse tack is made from the skin of other non-human animals, 138 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,690 further compounding the exploitation. 139 00:09:11,690 --> 00:09:14,680 I cover the leather industry in depth in another video. 140 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:19,170 In addition to general wear and chafing, saddles run the risk of causing vascular occlusion—meaning 141 00:09:19,170 --> 00:09:23,730 the restriction of blood flow—which can, if prolonged, lead to "necrosis of the under-lying 142 00:09:23,730 --> 00:09:26,899 tissues" —meaning the horse's skin and muscles die. 143 00:09:26,899 --> 00:09:31,140 Riding bareback (without a saddle) isn't the answer, as it may actually increase the risk 144 00:09:31,140 --> 00:09:35,330 of injury by putting more concentrated pressure on a horse's back than with a saddle. 145 00:09:35,330 --> 00:09:40,670 So, To avoid severe consequences such as necrosis, much industry and scientific research goes 146 00:09:40,670 --> 00:09:44,970 into designing and educating riders about "proper" saddle fit and use. 147 00:09:44,970 --> 00:09:49,330 The option of just not riding horses at all never even enters the discussion. 148 00:09:49,330 --> 00:09:51,730 Because we just have to get up on them. 149 00:09:52,693 --> 00:09:55,850 I have a video covering bits, so I’ll keep this brief. 150 00:09:55,850 --> 00:10:00,100 Bits cause pain and damage to a horse’s complex cranial nerves as well as their teeth, 151 00:10:00,100 --> 00:10:01,100 tongue, and palate. 152 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:04,970 Facial nerves are very close to the skin and thus extremely sensitive. 153 00:10:04,970 --> 00:10:10,410 Bits provide a perfect example of the incremental negotiation of acceptable exploitation that 154 00:10:10,410 --> 00:10:14,420 occurs when viewing a horses' pain as the only problem. 155 00:10:14,420 --> 00:10:19,060 Rather than question the domination and control of another being, more and more riders adopt 156 00:10:19,060 --> 00:10:21,040 and advocate for bitless bridles. 157 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:26,100 Then, when research hints that perhaps even bitless bridles cause pain, there's another 158 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:29,940 school or device or approach ready to take its place. 159 00:10:29,940 --> 00:10:33,935 Riding advocates emphasize that whips and crops should not be used as punishment 160 00:10:33,935 --> 00:10:35,160 —only as encouragement. 161 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,660 As with all horse tack, there is unending debate over their "proper" use, with much 162 00:10:39,660 --> 00:10:43,589 focus given to the potential physical and emotional harm of misuse. 163 00:10:43,589 --> 00:10:50,589 Let's pause for a moment to consider that we're now debating the proper way to whip 164 00:10:50,589 --> 00:10:52,581 a being we love. 165 00:10:55,871 --> 00:10:56,947 Let's proceed. 166 00:10:57,020 --> 00:11:01,399 The most widespread controversy about whips is their use in the horse racing industry, 167 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:03,329 which I've covered in a dedicated video and article. 168 00:11:03,329 --> 00:11:07,790 While the way whips are used within horse racing differs from how they're used in non-competitive 169 00:11:07,790 --> 00:11:12,480 riding, recent research into horse pain perception from whips is applicable to the larger issues 170 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:13,580 we've been exploring. 171 00:11:13,580 --> 00:11:17,720 There's a long-standing misconception that horses have "thicker skin" than humans, and 172 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,300 thus, whips don't hurt them. 173 00:11:19,300 --> 00:11:23,370 Not that we should need this to know better, but research has found that this is not the case, 174 00:11:23,370 --> 00:11:28,410 with a 2020 study finding "no significant difference between humans and horses in either 175 00:11:28,410 --> 00:11:33,040 the concentration of nerve endings in the outer pain-detecting layer of skin or in the 176 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:37,940 thickness of this layer...although horse skin is thicker overall than human skin, the part 177 00:11:37,940 --> 00:11:43,300 of the skin that is thicker does not insulate them from pain...humans and horses have the 178 00:11:43,300 --> 00:11:47,800 equivalent basic anatomic structures to detect pain in the skin." 179 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,899 Six years before this study, one of the authors, Paul McGreevy decided to whip himself while 180 00:11:52,899 --> 00:11:56,880 taking thermographic imaging, saying: "My view is that – because there is no evidence 181 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,790 to the contrary – we must assume that, just as I felt pain and distress from the impact 182 00:12:01,790 --> 00:12:06,339 of the padded whip, similar whipping in a horse would also cause pain and distress." 183 00:12:06,339 --> 00:12:11,675 While it's validating to now have the scientific verification, I wanted to highlight McGreevy's point: 184 00:12:11,675 --> 00:12:17,829 Why not assume that other sentient beings feel pain as we do, rather than continue 185 00:12:17,829 --> 00:12:22,401 to harm them unless we've proven to ourselves that it is harm? 186 00:12:22,562 --> 00:12:26,339 Now that we've addressed horse tack, what about the act of riding itself? 187 00:12:26,339 --> 00:12:31,370 When researching the physical harm of riding horses, I found an astounding lack of consensus 188 00:12:31,370 --> 00:12:36,339 and ongoing controversy regarding horse skeletal maturation and growth plate closure rates, 189 00:12:36,339 --> 00:12:40,863 diagnosis and treatment of injuries, and the relationship of riding and training practices to injury rates. 190 00:12:40,863 --> 00:12:45,500 Even a veterinary manual explaining "the most common cause of back soreness in the horse" 191 00:12:45,500 --> 00:12:50,050 is soft-tissue damage to the muscles and supraspinous ligament in a horse's back, which "are strained 192 00:12:50,050 --> 00:12:54,649 while the horse is being ridden" is sure to point out that "there is considerable controversy 193 00:12:54,649 --> 00:12:57,740 over the diagnosis and treatment of back problems in horses." 194 00:12:57,740 --> 00:13:02,240 It’s acknowledged that "Across all equestrian disciplines, the single largest reason for 195 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:08,600 wastage"—also euphemistically referred to as "loss of horses"— "is musculoskeletal injury," 196 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:14,177 Yet horse skeletal maturation rates and damage from riding remain particularly contentious. 197 00:13:14,177 --> 00:13:19,100 Many studies and sources declare horses "skeletally mature" at 2–3 years of age based either 198 00:13:19,100 --> 00:13:22,880 on the growth plates closing in their legs, or their having reached their full height and weight. 199 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,030 None of these factors speak to the maturity of their axial skeleton, which includes their 200 00:13:27,030 --> 00:13:31,750 vertebral column—y'know, the part you sit on—or even parts of the pubis that don't 201 00:13:31,750 --> 00:13:35,899 fuse until 4.5–5 years of age, long after they're already being ridden. 202 00:13:35,899 --> 00:13:41,550 I spent days delving into horse skeletal development—I even chased down findings about horse pubic 203 00:13:41,550 --> 00:13:48,310 epiphyseal fusion not occurring until up to 5 years of age that were made in 1897. 204 00:13:48,310 --> 00:13:53,050 Yet well over 100 years later, we're still asking when horses are skeletally mature and 205 00:13:53,050 --> 00:13:55,970 basing it off the earliest fusing plates in their limbs. 206 00:13:55,970 --> 00:13:59,920 I've included more detail on my research process and findings on the article for this video 207 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:01,300 if you want to dive deeper. 208 00:14:01,300 --> 00:14:06,750 But honestly, those hundred or so hours I spent digging only highlighted the utter insanity 209 00:14:06,750 --> 00:14:13,639 of how much time, energy, and effort we humans put into justifying our use of other animals. 210 00:14:13,639 --> 00:14:19,279 In the end, the industry, scientific, medical, and even lay-rider literature doesn't really 211 00:14:19,279 --> 00:14:24,839 refute the harm of riding—it just strives to determine the best way to reduce that harm 212 00:14:24,839 --> 00:14:27,330 and prolong the use of horses. 213 00:14:27,330 --> 00:14:31,580 The warring approaches to riding, endless studies on training practices, and progressive 214 00:14:31,580 --> 00:14:37,370 bargaining of using less and less tack are all manifestations of the same incremental 215 00:14:37,370 --> 00:14:42,339 negotiation of exploitation we perform with all non-human animals. 216 00:14:42,339 --> 00:14:46,470 Battery cages are too cruel for layer hens, so we give them slightly larger cages. 217 00:14:46,470 --> 00:14:47,470 Still problematic? 218 00:14:47,470 --> 00:14:48,470 How about a crowded shed? 219 00:14:48,470 --> 00:14:49,470 Still too grim? 220 00:14:49,470 --> 00:14:50,589 Let's raise backyard chickens. 221 00:14:50,589 --> 00:14:58,534 We barter and bargain and give ourselves happy-sounding labels, doing anything we can to keep using animals 222 00:14:58,759 --> 00:15:00,170 —but feel good about it. 223 00:15:00,170 --> 00:15:04,459 Within the horse world, a poignant example of this mentality is the United States horse 224 00:15:04,459 --> 00:15:10,160 racing industry patting itself on the back for a 23.5% decrease in fatalities over a 225 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,769 decade of voluntary data collection by The Jockey Club. 226 00:15:13,769 --> 00:15:15,430 Now there are going to be fatalities. 227 00:15:15,430 --> 00:15:20,850 But, as The Jockey Club's senior counsel said, the fact that slightly fewer horses died of 228 00:15:20,850 --> 00:15:25,660 fatal injuries while racing "indicates that the Thoroughbred industry's commitment to 229 00:15:25,660 --> 00:15:28,930 equine safety is paying dividends." 230 00:15:28,930 --> 00:15:34,050 Not only do we fail to question what we're doing to these beings, but we actually congratulate 231 00:15:34,050 --> 00:15:38,500 ourselves for being the heroes in the disasters of our own creation. 232 00:15:38,500 --> 00:15:44,860 We swoop in to make their abbreviated lives slightly less miserable—lives that we've 233 00:15:44,860 --> 00:15:49,680 made abbreviated and miserable in the first place. 234 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:54,220 By this point, you can probably guess the answer to whether horse riding is vegan. 235 00:15:54,220 --> 00:15:58,623 The question "is horse riding vegan" is quite different from the question "is horse riding cruel" 236 00:15:58,744 --> 00:16:02,630 Veganism and animal rights oppose any exploitation of sentient beings 237 00:16:02,630 --> 00:16:05,130 It's evident that horses do not need to be ridden. 238 00:16:05,130 --> 00:16:10,627 When a horse's basic needs are met without being ridden, horseback riding solely benefits the rider 239 00:16:10,627 --> 00:16:15,480 Whether that benefit is financial gain, entertainment, emotional fulfillment, or even a presumed 240 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,290 expression of love—it is exploitation. 241 00:16:18,290 --> 00:16:25,549 There is no way to take advantage of someone's captive dependency without exploiting them. 242 00:16:25,549 --> 00:16:29,800 Underlying all of the debates over the "proper" way to train and ride horses is not only the 243 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:36,240 tacit acknowledgment that some degree of harm is acceptable but also the deeply entrenched 244 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:41,959 and unquestioned presumption that horses are ours to use. 245 00:16:41,959 --> 00:16:47,380 Confronting the exploitation of horse use is—I'm sure—profoundly painful. 246 00:16:47,380 --> 00:16:52,149 It's likely as traumatic as confronting what we do to animals in the food industry—and 247 00:16:52,149 --> 00:16:59,589 elicits just as strong defenses and justifications, even from vegans who continue to ride. 248 00:16:59,589 --> 00:17:05,970 Again, I will encourage those of you who ride horses to ask yourself: why? 249 00:17:05,970 --> 00:17:09,160 Why do you insist on doing this to them? 250 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:15,981 As much as I'm sure you love them, is this how you express love for any other being in your life? 251 00:17:16,192 --> 00:17:22,209 This isn’t about shame—it’s about learning to love horses truly unconditionally, and 252 00:17:22,209 --> 00:17:29,396 allowing them to be their full selves outside of the constraints of who we need them to be. 253 00:17:30,234 --> 00:17:35,712 I'll be honest—revisiting the ethics of horse riding has been an exhausting, challenging, 254 00:17:35,712 --> 00:17:38,400 and somewhat maddening experience. 255 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,440 My hope is that this video will reach those of you who are still riding—and 256 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:48,195 that you'll find a way to work through your defenses and take an honest look at your relationship with horses. 257 00:17:48,294 --> 00:17:52,197 I highly recommend watching my interview with Ren Hurst—hearing from someone who has been 258 00:17:52,197 --> 00:17:55,740 where you are is no doubt more powerful than anything I can say. 259 00:17:55,740 --> 00:17:57,590 Please share this video with others who ride. 260 00:17:57,590 --> 00:18:02,283 And, as much as I joked about "passionate feedback," I do want to hear from you in the comments. 261 00:18:02,427 --> 00:18:04,470 What are your thoughts on the ethics of horse riding? 262 00:18:04,470 --> 00:18:08,809 To stay in the loop about new Bite Size Vegan content and updates, subscribe to the newsletter 263 00:18:08,809 --> 00:18:12,040 or follow the Telegram channel for the most reliable notifications. 264 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,059 Just click Subscribe at BiteSizeVegan.org. 265 00:18:14,059 --> 00:18:16,179 Now go live vegan, and I'll see you soon.