WEBVTT 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I've always felt a strong connection between sewing thread and writing thread. (charcoal scraping) (sewing machine) I grew up doing hand work, needle work, sewing, knitting, embroidery, all those textile arts. The process is satisfying, but cloth metaphors are beautiful. Every cloth is made of threads, whatever their weave. Each one is visible, and the whole cloth needs each one. It's a social metaphor to me. It's beautiful. My first graduate school piece: a gray suit covered in toothpicks, the cloth skin like a hide, a porcupine. (music) (whispering) Find the linear broken below a human. For me, the thread, written line, and drawn line are about making. (whispering) The line that makes something relates to how we make things with language. (whispering) Certainty. I work with words as materials, like others. "Lineament" is from a Wallace Stevens poem. The page becomes three-dimensional. Each line is lifted like a thread, run through hands, creating a ball, the page's body. I see the tie of thread as line and writing. Yeah. Now go that way. Right. (crinkling plastic) I'll set up the pipes, then we'll bring the fabric over. For me, installation is working in relation to a place. You're animating the space. You don't know what it will do to you, or you to it. (laughs) You try to be blank, pay attention, what comes up, what you feel. Your skin is a smart organ, a membrane. You walk through any threshold and smell, feel temperature and light, all influences. (birds chirping) This building had people working here. It's in a company town, forgotten. It went out of business three months ago. (whispering) I didn't visit it in operation, as a textile factory, now silenced. The hollowness, emptiness, was palpable. I'm all thumbs today. (indistinct) Grab this string? I wanted one room for the writer, one for the reader. They're ghost-like silk organza, side by side, identical, foot square, suspended. (clanging) Yeah. Hey Emmitt, carry this over with the other pipes? He can do it. Don't worry. There you go. Each room has a foot table, a spinning projector. (clanging) With Anne's work. She's not a traditional artist, painting or sculpture. People have to reach, break expectations. It says there's more here than we saw. Someone else sees that. Emmitt, help pull the projector. Okay? This is the video going backwards. Pencils eating the line. (whooshing) Making work is allowing things already there, but not visible, to become visible, experience-able. (whooshing) (crickets) (bells) (whispering) (birds) This Jeffersonian building is an emblem of American ideals. (women speaking code) I wanted to engage it. How do we deal with our history's stains? Our social history, slavery, is the largest. A democratic country founded on slavery, how to talk about that? Abstractly, perhaps. Chromed fusca powder sifted down, catching on plaster dots, spelling braille, edited from Resnikoff's poems. Each room had Lincoln's address, a healing one, in phonetic alphabet. (Women whispering code) (birds) (door opening/closing) Come on, Timmy. Let's go. (leash clanking) I live in Ohio, moved back after teaching seven years in Santa Barbara. I want to be near family. This is where I grew up. (geese) Comfort to come home. My parents helped a lot. Mom would fly out for projects, Dad helped. Now they provide backup, allowing my travel. It would be harder without it. Help change the film? You can't be a mom with a kindergartner without help. Emmitt, see your picture? (clicking) My work gives voice, but not my voice. Mine is here and here. How do I make where song and words exit the body become my eye? I made pinhole cameras, put one in my mouth, unblock it, expose the film. (footsteps) You're not supposed to have your mouth open. (laughs) It's vulnerable, relaxed, open. (laughs) Sorry. Ready? Um-hm. Um. Interesting to register stillness, face to face, soul to soul, revealing something not surface stuff. Mouth and eye are the same. The image is like the pupil. (bell) (barking) Good. Invert senses. These slippages make us see differently. (motor) Looks like fire off your hand. Wow. Magic. Flat water with soap, of human hair's thickness. Things that thin reflect light depending on thickness. I wondered if Ann could use it. Which is the problem. Martin said, "I'm doing this," showed it. I don't know how or when, but it's related to everything I've done. The cloth's fluidity, hands through its membrane. I love the bubble, breath made visible. Beautiful. I know making work, I can't see it, then there's a moment I can, think it's beautiful. It bites, you try to see it. (laughs) Of course it's different. (music)