WEBVTT 00:00:06.048 --> 00:00:07.248 So welcome, everybody. 00:00:07.248 --> 00:00:10.118 This is "Structuring GLAM-Wiki Initiatives with Wikidata" 00:00:10.118 --> 00:00:12.410 with the presenter João Alexandre Peschanski 00:00:12.410 --> 00:00:15.714 from Wiki Movimento Brasil. And let's start. 00:00:17.278 --> 00:00:19.748 (João) So, thanks everyone for joining us. 00:00:19.748 --> 00:00:20.968 Thank you, Erica. 00:00:20.968 --> 00:00:24.729 I was also actually one of the presenters, 00:00:24.729 --> 00:00:25.778 to some extent. 00:00:25.778 --> 00:00:30.451 I have this job of presenting on behalf of four people, 00:00:30.451 --> 00:00:32.912 they are all here, including myself. 00:00:33.438 --> 00:00:36.878 (person in audience) Please shut up. Please stop talking! Thanks. 00:00:38.773 --> 00:00:41.103 (João) Me? (laughs) 00:00:43.378 --> 00:00:45.278 (person in audience) Please go on talking. 00:00:45.278 --> 00:00:46.948 (laughter) 00:00:48.230 --> 00:00:51.280 (João) Okay. So this is collective work, 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:57.930 and I am only here as a means to order some process 00:00:57.930 --> 00:01:01.930 to some extent; this is work by Wiki Movimento Brasil, the user group, 00:01:02.271 --> 00:01:05.731 and The Research, Innovation and Dissemination Center 00:01:05.731 --> 00:01:07.031 for Neuromathematics, 00:01:07.031 --> 00:01:09.441 which is the lab where I hold a position. 00:01:09.441 --> 00:01:12.343 This is funded by the São Paulo Research Foundation. 00:01:12.343 --> 00:01:16.376 And it's basically our work to solve 00:01:16.376 --> 00:01:19.691 what nobody in Brazil really cares to solve, 00:01:19.691 --> 00:01:21.916 which is to provide knowledge. 00:01:21.916 --> 00:01:25.454 And this knowledge needs to be provided urgently, 00:01:25.454 --> 00:01:29.162 otherwise museums burn, they get destroyed, 00:01:29.162 --> 00:01:30.742 they are unfunded. 00:01:31.404 --> 00:01:34.822 Museums don't have-- this is a Global South country, 00:01:34.822 --> 00:01:36.362 they don't have resources. 00:01:36.362 --> 00:01:40.794 Only 1% of the public museums in Brazil 00:01:40.794 --> 00:01:45.539 have any sort of digital media available. 00:01:46.559 --> 00:01:48.929 So if we don't do the digitizing, 00:01:48.929 --> 00:01:54.045 if we don't do the upload, if we don't do the dissemination of this work, 00:01:54.045 --> 00:01:56.055 it just won't happen. 00:01:56.055 --> 00:01:57.925 And this knowledge will be lost, 00:01:57.925 --> 00:02:00.135 it will be destroyed, 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:05.708 it will just be unavailable forever. 00:02:05.880 --> 00:02:08.050 So there is a sense of urgency, 00:02:08.050 --> 00:02:12.990 and what I am going to present today is the aspect of GLAM-Wiki initiative, 00:02:12.990 --> 00:02:16.670 so an initiative around the collection of galleries, libraries-- 00:02:16.670 --> 00:02:18.220 whatever galleries means-- 00:02:18.220 --> 00:02:21.576 archives and museums or other cultural institutions 00:02:22.548 --> 00:02:24.563 to provide this knowledge. 00:02:24.563 --> 00:02:26.273 So, it's a focus on process, 00:02:26.273 --> 00:02:27.823 which to some extent is interesting 00:02:27.823 --> 00:02:32.763 because it connects to the vision that was laid out on Wikidata 00:02:33.428 --> 00:02:38.128 for the Wikimedia platforms which is, Wikidata is a resource 00:02:38.128 --> 00:02:42.138 to improve efficiency and effectiveness 00:02:42.848 --> 00:02:45.503 of the other Wikimedia platforms. 00:02:45.503 --> 00:02:47.063 This is the focus, 00:02:47.063 --> 00:02:50.893 and it's particularly looking at the Brazilian experience as a model, 00:02:50.893 --> 00:02:53.483 I hope, for the Global South. 00:02:53.797 --> 00:02:57.884 It's easy when you have staff, resources, 00:02:58.740 --> 00:03:00.557 funding, whatever. 00:03:00.975 --> 00:03:02.750 It's a little bit trickier 00:03:02.750 --> 00:03:08.196 and it's more community dependent when you are from an impoverished country, 00:03:08.746 --> 00:03:13.683 when you are from a region on which the Wikimedian community 00:03:13.683 --> 00:03:17.205 needs to get directly involved in the process. 00:03:19.297 --> 00:03:24.740 And this is, to some extent, an idea that starts-- 00:03:25.293 --> 00:03:27.223 from, the way I am presenting-- 00:03:27.223 --> 00:03:30.513 from the broader aspect of providing this knowledge. 00:03:31.011 --> 00:03:34.724 A process of convergence of this knowledge and availability 00:03:34.871 --> 00:03:38.281 through how we go onto this process 00:03:38.281 --> 00:03:42.325 to the actual single item that we work on. 00:03:42.529 --> 00:03:45.319 So I am going to present, to some extent, 00:03:45.319 --> 00:03:48.259 what I've just called the "Sum of All GLAM-Wikis Brazil", 00:03:48.259 --> 00:03:50.739 the several institutions, and how we keep track 00:03:50.739 --> 00:03:53.553 of the work we've been doing, I think we are up to now-- 00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:58.729 we have uploaded around 70,000 files to Commons 00:03:58.729 --> 00:04:02.172 and hundreds of thousands of stuff to Wikidata. 00:04:02.477 --> 00:04:05.927 It's about also the item modeling of a GLAM-Wiki initiative, 00:04:05.927 --> 00:04:07.865 so we can keep track of it, 00:04:07.865 --> 00:04:10.395 and how we can involve the community 00:04:10.395 --> 00:04:15.781 because that's the agent of this knowledge development. 00:04:15.870 --> 00:04:20.996 And this is one of our main projects with this "Museu Paulista," 00:04:21.518 --> 00:04:25.949 it has over 23,000 images uploaded-- 00:04:25.949 --> 00:04:29.569 this is a museum that has been shut down for several years. 00:04:30.022 --> 00:04:34.442 So if you don't go to the Wikimedia platforms, 00:04:34.442 --> 00:04:37.824 you just don't have access to this knowledge. 00:04:37.824 --> 00:04:41.824 It's only available for the general public here. 00:04:42.304 --> 00:04:45.054 Which is different when you're just, to some extent, 00:04:45.054 --> 00:04:48.314 mirroring digital platforms that already exist, 00:04:48.314 --> 00:04:51.010 for instance, on the museum website. 00:04:51.758 --> 00:04:55.758 So, what we do, we have items for each one of the GLAMs 00:04:55.758 --> 00:04:59.057 that we work on, and they are Listeria-generated. 00:04:59.635 --> 00:05:04.278 They-- each one has a page so the community can go there. 00:05:05.013 --> 00:05:10.123 We have a template for GLAM-Wiki initiatives. 00:05:10.123 --> 00:05:13.223 It's called a TGLAM--this is not Wikidata, but it's pretty cool-- 00:05:13.223 --> 00:05:17.624 it was developed by other Portuguese here in the room. 00:05:18.804 --> 00:05:20.872 And so we keep track of them, 00:05:21.895 --> 00:05:26.776 so they are all then items on Wikidata. 00:05:27.344 --> 00:05:29.404 They are not fancy items, 00:05:29.404 --> 00:05:34.742 it's just important that we are able to keep track of what we're doing. 00:05:34.742 --> 00:05:39.046 This is important for the community to actually reach out, 00:05:39.339 --> 00:05:44.049 and convert and this is Wikidata again that there is-- 00:05:45.283 --> 00:05:49.550 you have pages on Wikipedia Commons category, 00:05:49.550 --> 00:05:53.079 so people can find elements easily. 00:05:53.898 --> 00:05:57.528 This is TGLAM which is the template that we use. 00:05:57.528 --> 00:06:01.528 This is a small GLAM that we've worked on. 00:06:02.269 --> 00:06:05.158 It's again a national museum, a public museum, 00:06:05.158 --> 00:06:09.158 that is currently shut down by the government, 00:06:09.158 --> 00:06:10.618 by lack of funding. 00:06:10.618 --> 00:06:16.198 If you want to have access to content, you need to go to the Wikimedia platforms. 00:06:16.721 --> 00:06:20.552 So it's a small activity and you see there are several members-- 00:06:21.705 --> 00:06:25.265 some members of the community small GLAM that are working-- 00:06:25.265 --> 00:06:28.855 this is again Wikidata-generated, all the list of GLAMs, 00:06:28.855 --> 00:06:32.347 so people can go back and forth over them, 00:06:32.347 --> 00:06:35.517 but most importantly-- and this is where WIkidata is coming-- 00:06:35.517 --> 00:06:38.647 you have tasks, and there are a lot of tasks. 00:06:38.952 --> 00:06:42.532 These are, again, poor cultural institutions, 00:06:42.532 --> 00:06:46.532 so the metadata that we get is generally really bad. 00:06:47.577 --> 00:06:53.355 We have batches of images that no one knows what they are. 00:06:54.925 --> 00:06:59.535 So the only way that we can solve this issue 00:06:59.816 --> 00:07:05.793 if we want to have this input onto the project 00:07:05.793 --> 00:07:08.232 is to actually mobilize the community 00:07:08.232 --> 00:07:11.458 which is something that we've done for airplanes. 00:07:12.273 --> 00:07:14.493 The community with airplanes are just fantastic. 00:07:14.493 --> 00:07:18.303 They just identified in one day like 500 images of airplanes-- 00:07:18.303 --> 00:07:22.919 we are doing this for political protest in Brazil from the National Archives. 00:07:23.608 --> 00:07:26.174 And we use several tools-- 00:07:26.174 --> 00:07:29.023 this one was presented by Andrew Lih 00:07:29.023 --> 00:07:33.583 which is TABernacle, which is a tool that he introduced to me, 00:07:33.583 --> 00:07:37.583 so I am acknowledging this help. 00:07:37.583 --> 00:07:40.803 We've actually learned a lot from the Metropolitan work 00:07:40.803 --> 00:07:42.488 which is, I think, 00:07:42.488 --> 00:07:46.162 part of what we all do here is to share processes and understanding, 00:07:46.162 --> 00:07:49.112 so we are thankful. 00:07:49.112 --> 00:07:53.194 Another one that we learned from Wikimedia Deutschland 00:07:53.194 --> 00:07:55.004 is the BRA Table-- 00:07:55.004 --> 00:07:58.322 that I don't think you've mentioned in your presentation, Andrew-- 00:07:58.322 --> 00:08:00.094 which is actually pretty cool. 00:08:00.094 --> 00:08:04.094 It was very important for us in the context, you might remember, 00:08:04.094 --> 00:08:07.434 of the fire at the National Museum 00:08:07.889 --> 00:08:11.959 on which this gigantic historical museum, 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:13.799 science museum in Brazil, just burned down. 00:08:13.799 --> 00:08:15.849 There was no digital collection, 00:08:15.849 --> 00:08:20.269 so we organized the campaign, so people, random people, 00:08:20.269 --> 00:08:24.859 would submit or upload to Commons their images. 00:08:24.859 --> 00:08:29.588 And they are the only images we have of these museums, 00:08:30.416 --> 00:08:32.479 and I am thankful again for the community 00:08:32.629 --> 00:08:34.479 to have shared the word, 00:08:34.479 --> 00:08:37.219 and we've used this tool, BRA Table, 00:08:37.219 --> 00:08:43.269 to have the community understand the language on which the items, 00:08:43.269 --> 00:08:46.141 the entries had to be created or were created, 00:08:46.141 --> 00:08:47.807 the number of statements. 00:08:48.007 --> 00:08:52.027 It's a community tool, it's administrative stuff, 00:08:52.027 --> 00:08:54.648 and Mix'n'match, of course, which is useful 00:08:54.648 --> 00:08:58.137 to be able to find more easily where the information lies 00:08:58.137 --> 00:09:00.155 when you have external databases. 00:09:01.380 --> 00:09:04.681 And again on the administrative aspect, 00:09:04.681 --> 00:09:07.811 which is again not already the main space, 00:09:07.811 --> 00:09:13.038 we also rely on Mbabel which was presented earlier on 00:09:13.567 --> 00:09:17.697 through Listeria, so people can actually improve content 00:09:18.254 --> 00:09:20.924 not having a blank page in front of them, 00:09:20.924 --> 00:09:24.924 but being able to have some structured narrative 00:09:24.924 --> 00:09:28.614 of an entry before they can create content. 00:09:28.614 --> 00:09:33.204 So this is all in the process of improving efficiency 00:09:33.204 --> 00:09:35.584 and effectiveness for the community. 00:09:35.584 --> 00:09:39.290 And we also do that on the main space, 00:09:39.749 --> 00:09:44.937 so we have an infrastructure, most Wikipedia-- 00:09:45.757 --> 00:09:51.227 I would say, many Wikipedias have this infrastructure on, 00:09:51.227 --> 00:09:56.921 so automated infoboxes and, of course, Commons has the Commons infoboxes. 00:09:56.921 --> 00:10:00.251 These are really, really useful elements 00:10:00.251 --> 00:10:04.251 because they fetch what we are able to include onto Wikidata, 00:10:04.251 --> 00:10:09.450 and they easily give a sense of effectiveness 00:10:09.450 --> 00:10:12.183 and social impact relevance of what we are doing. 00:10:12.183 --> 00:10:16.682 These are, again, cultural institutions that are not recognized as GLAMs 00:10:16.682 --> 00:10:19.132 that we work on. 00:10:19.913 --> 00:10:24.233 And we've used this for Wiki Loves Monuments as well, 00:10:24.233 --> 00:10:29.443 so people would just upload through Wikidata their monuments 00:10:29.443 --> 00:10:32.975 and the use of the monument idea that is now true. 00:10:32.975 --> 00:10:34.520 Mike Peel, who is here, 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:39.365 has a connection to structured data on Commons. 00:10:39.365 --> 00:10:43.510 This is again something that improved the effectiveness of the process. 00:10:45.402 --> 00:10:47.862 So I think I'm going to speed up. 00:10:47.903 --> 00:10:54.473 In Portuguese Wikipedia, we can rely on Listeria-bought generated lists 00:10:54.473 --> 00:10:56.303 on the main space, 00:10:56.303 --> 00:10:58.763 which is actually pretty cool 00:10:58.763 --> 00:11:02.763 when we are dealing with small cultural institutions, 00:11:02.763 --> 00:11:04.997 spread around, 00:11:04.997 --> 00:11:09.156 that have to some extent similar artists in their collections. 00:11:09.401 --> 00:11:14.050 Which means that every time you upload one museum, 00:11:14.050 --> 00:11:17.580 it actually generates a sort of avalanche bot editing 00:11:17.580 --> 00:11:21.580 on, I don't know, dozens of lists, for instance, of these ones-- 00:11:21.580 --> 00:11:24.082 list of paintings of Pedro Americo 00:11:24.082 --> 00:11:27.202 which is one of the most important historical painters in Brazil. 00:11:27.741 --> 00:11:29.861 So if you look at the history, 00:11:29.861 --> 00:11:35.731 most of the content that was included and sometimes small information, 00:11:35.731 --> 00:11:39.311 but sometimes a batch upload comes from Wikidata. 00:11:39.951 --> 00:11:42.413 Again, the sense of effectiveness. 00:11:43.872 --> 00:11:48.502 And now moving to the way 00:11:48.884 --> 00:11:51.484 that we deal with things. 00:11:51.484 --> 00:11:54.551 So the major difference on what you're seeing 00:11:54.551 --> 00:11:57.271 from Andrew and the work with the Met, 00:11:57.271 --> 00:12:00.039 and, I think, the way we're doing-- 00:12:00.749 --> 00:12:02.687 5 minutes from 20 or 25? 00:12:02.859 --> 00:12:05.169 (person answering) [inaudible] 00:12:06.286 --> 00:12:10.196 We don't do Python, we do Google Sheet formula. 00:12:10.196 --> 00:12:11.288 (laughs) 00:12:11.288 --> 00:12:17.408 Which is, I think, probably harder, but we should at some point-- 00:12:17.408 --> 00:12:19.538 (person) [inaudible] 00:12:19.538 --> 00:12:22.368 - It's kind of scary. - Yeah. it's kind of scary. 00:12:22.368 --> 00:12:26.168 It is a large concatenation, but once you've done one, 00:12:26.168 --> 00:12:28.318 you can do them all. 00:12:28.318 --> 00:12:31.428 But this is how we're doing this. 00:12:32.566 --> 00:12:37.626 We use Pattypan, we rely on Commons templates, 00:12:37.626 --> 00:12:38.949 but I'll show them. 00:12:38.949 --> 00:12:43.759 So it's basically a process of search, organize, clean and quick statements, 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:45.143 fy, whatever-- 00:12:45.143 --> 00:12:49.792 and we do reconciliation mostly through Google Sheets. 00:12:50.835 --> 00:12:54.162 We have issues with Open Refined, 00:12:54.162 --> 00:12:57.237 mostly because we receive the collections 00:12:57.237 --> 00:13:03.298 not as full collections but parts of them, normally, 00:13:03.298 --> 00:13:08.628 and we are afraid that if we use Open Refine, 00:13:08.628 --> 00:13:11.785 the decisions that we make won't be recorded. 00:13:11.785 --> 00:13:16.210 So you won't be able to have them used in different processes. 00:13:16.994 --> 00:13:20.994 And we have this gigantic Google Sheet that to some extent, 00:13:20.994 --> 00:13:27.151 people spend time finding the right Q ID or finding the ID that they need to find, 00:13:27.151 --> 00:13:30.789 and then they just reconcile through Google Sheet, again. 00:13:33.089 --> 00:13:35.329 The upload is based on Pattypan. 00:13:35.329 --> 00:13:39.383 We've tried GLAMpipe-- it's a little bit complicated, 00:13:39.699 --> 00:13:43.299 but Pattypan is the one we've been using. 00:13:43.299 --> 00:13:46.270 And again, in the process of effectiveness, 00:13:46.270 --> 00:13:50.756 the Commons templates basically bring from WIkidata 00:13:50.756 --> 00:13:53.956 the information you've uploaded, so this is one of-- 00:13:53.956 --> 00:13:56.848 this is an example of an image that we have uploaded 00:13:56.848 --> 00:14:00.438 from this very famous photographer in Brazil, 00:14:00.438 --> 00:14:05.813 and it brings with the art photo, Commons template, 00:14:05.813 --> 00:14:08.063 a structure that we feel is useful. 00:14:08.502 --> 00:14:14.264 Each one of the processes 00:14:14.264 --> 00:14:15.948 that I've shown you 00:14:15.948 --> 00:14:21.742 were identified as a topic of a Wikidata Lab. 00:14:21.742 --> 00:14:25.273 You probably heard of them as of now. 00:14:25.634 --> 00:14:28.724 These are trainings that we provide for the community, 00:14:28.724 --> 00:14:34.284 so they are able to work on each one of the steps. 00:14:34.284 --> 00:14:36.974 So, here you have Magnus and Andrew, 00:14:38.030 --> 00:14:44.980 in Brazil, helping us with-- working in this process 00:14:44.980 --> 00:14:48.140 that has been the process that we've relied on 00:14:48.140 --> 00:14:50.061 for these cultural institutions. 00:14:50.450 --> 00:14:54.280 And the trainings are available online. 00:14:54.280 --> 00:14:58.814 The last one we have available online is on disagreeing data 00:14:58.814 --> 00:15:00.259 with Denny Vrandečić. 00:15:00.979 --> 00:15:03.509 That's it. So, thank you all for being here. 00:15:03.509 --> 00:15:06.538 This was a fast-track presentation, 00:15:06.538 --> 00:15:09.323 but I think we have time for questions. Thank you. 00:15:09.323 --> 00:15:13.323 (applause) 00:15:13.874 --> 00:15:17.134 (Erica) Thank you, João. So, now we have 5 minutes for questions 00:15:17.134 --> 00:15:19.744 and please, wait for the microphone before asking. 00:15:20.346 --> 00:15:21.990 So, who's got questions here? 00:15:36.352 --> 00:15:39.236 (person 1) First of all, thank you for all the work that you are doing. 00:15:39.236 --> 00:15:41.736 And I want to ask you about the inspiration. 00:15:41.736 --> 00:15:44.198 We just came from an education panel 00:15:44.198 --> 00:15:48.246 where you said that the work that you do with your students is difficult for you 00:15:48.246 --> 00:15:51.276 because, you know, you have to find assignments and things to do 00:15:51.276 --> 00:15:52.595 that are interesting. 00:15:52.595 --> 00:15:56.394 So I am wondering how you keep yourself inspired 00:15:56.394 --> 00:15:59.474 and what do you do to kind of try new things 00:15:59.474 --> 00:16:03.612 and find a new-- next ideas to work on. 00:16:05.955 --> 00:16:08.715 (João) I don't know what you mean. Thank you. 00:16:08.715 --> 00:16:10.235 (laughs) 00:16:10.235 --> 00:16:11.845 Maybe, I am a maniac. I don't know. 00:16:11.845 --> 00:16:14.965 But it's obsessive, I don't know. 00:16:15.219 --> 00:16:19.884 It's just that, again, there is a sense that if we don't do it, 00:16:19.884 --> 00:16:21.639 no one will do it, 00:16:21.994 --> 00:16:23.804 (person) Obsessive [inaudible] 00:16:23.874 --> 00:16:26.054 (laughs) 00:16:26.054 --> 00:16:30.515 So, this is a motto for, I think, these processes. 00:16:31.280 --> 00:16:35.700 And again this is a country on which the museums are being shut down 00:16:35.700 --> 00:16:39.211 or destroyed and again if we don't do it, 00:16:39.211 --> 00:16:42.132 this content will just disappear. 00:16:42.132 --> 00:16:45.282 So we are just, right now, facing a situation 00:16:45.282 --> 00:16:49.282 in which the Brazilian government has decided but to shut down 00:16:49.282 --> 00:16:53.282 the databases on the killed and disappeared people 00:16:53.282 --> 00:16:56.752 in the military dictatorship in Brazil because they disagree that people 00:16:56.752 --> 00:17:00.955 were killed or disappeared during the military dictatorship. 00:17:01.496 --> 00:17:03.855 So content disappears. 00:17:04.714 --> 00:17:07.764 So I think we all live, and it's just not myself, 00:17:07.764 --> 00:17:10.952 Érica, Giovana and Heather, with the sense of emergency. 00:17:11.489 --> 00:17:15.769 Which I think it's a little bit different from other circumstances, 00:17:15.769 --> 00:17:19.241 other countries, but I would say that in Brazil, 00:17:19.241 --> 00:17:22.141 and we can imagine the Global South in general, 00:17:22.374 --> 00:17:24.824 this is something that is really relevant. 00:17:25.248 --> 00:17:28.908 Content will just not be there if you wait. 00:17:41.547 --> 00:17:45.997 (person 2) I was wondering if there was any positive aspects 00:17:45.997 --> 00:17:49.257 to your relationship with the Brazilian government. 00:17:50.588 --> 00:17:54.328 Has there been attention to your efforts with the museum 00:17:54.328 --> 00:17:57.113 or otherwise, I know, it got a lot of press, 00:17:57.113 --> 00:18:00.023 or did you get any positive attention, did you get any collaboration, 00:18:00.023 --> 00:18:06.596 is there any avenues in which you are getting some progress with the government? 00:18:09.233 --> 00:18:11.793 As some of you might know, if not all of them, 00:18:11.793 --> 00:18:14.983 we currently have a very bad government in Brazil. 00:18:15.459 --> 00:18:19.799 So if they knew we existed, they would shut down all the projects. 00:18:20.781 --> 00:18:24.707 So I am glad-- what we have right now 00:18:24.707 --> 00:18:28.124 is better than any communication. 00:18:28.370 --> 00:18:34.111 So we have a very, very large initiative 00:18:34.368 --> 00:18:39.278 that is, as of today, half clandestine with the Brazilian National Archive, 00:18:39.278 --> 00:18:44.871 which is under the administration of the Department of Justice 00:18:45.117 --> 00:18:48.477 which is extremely far-right. 00:18:49.080 --> 00:18:51.610 And they just don't care about what we are doing 00:18:51.610 --> 00:18:55.530 and if they knew we were-- they don't really care-- 00:18:55.530 --> 00:18:58.080 but if they knew, they wouldn't like it. 00:18:58.080 --> 00:19:01.820 Just like the Department of Education-- the Head of the Department of Education 00:19:01.820 --> 00:19:06.487 sent a letter to Wikipedians twice this year, 00:19:06.795 --> 00:19:09.378 saying that he doesn't like his entry. 00:19:10.483 --> 00:19:13.569 And we don't know what it actually means, 00:19:13.569 --> 00:19:16.339 but it came to us as an official document. 00:19:16.339 --> 00:19:20.099 And then, you can imagine how in this process 00:19:20.099 --> 00:19:22.059 this would be understood. 00:19:22.059 --> 00:19:25.039 I don't think there is any connection right now, 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:29.039 but I think it's just an expression of what they do 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:33.730 or understand the role of culture or, I don't know, 00:19:34.208 --> 00:19:37.858 social communication, of culture in Brazil right now. 00:19:38.250 --> 00:19:41.860 (person 2) What about local governments, states, cities? 00:19:43.157 --> 00:19:45.367 So, the question now is about local governments, 00:19:45.367 --> 00:19:48.723 cities, so that's a very actually interesting aspect. 00:19:49.792 --> 00:19:54.544 One of the GLAM that is listed, is actually not necessarily a GLAM. 00:19:55.582 --> 00:20:02.203 In like a couple of weeks ago, we decided with a local government-- 00:20:02.681 --> 00:20:04.220 Where is it? 00:20:04.220 --> 00:20:08.220 This one. It's called "Wiki Takes Santana de Parnaíba" 00:20:08.430 --> 00:20:10.580 "Wiki Occupies Santana de Parnaíba." 00:20:10.580 --> 00:20:12.000 We had this agreement, 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:16.060 and it was generally funded by the Wikimedia foundation, 00:20:16.060 --> 00:20:18.605 that we would take over a city 00:20:18.971 --> 00:20:22.011 for several days. 00:20:22.011 --> 00:20:28.129 So we arrived with 15 Wikimedians, with the support of the local government, 00:20:28.459 --> 00:20:33.099 which opened its cultural institutions-- they are very, very small, 00:20:33.099 --> 00:20:38.765 non-digitized, and we basically Wikified everything. 00:20:38.765 --> 00:20:41.238 So we took pictures of-- 00:20:41.238 --> 00:20:45.563 it's a historical city so there were 500 monuments in the city, 00:20:45.563 --> 00:20:49.110 so we took pictures of each one of them, we mapped them on OpenStreetMap, 00:20:49.110 --> 00:20:52.780 we went to the archive, we uploaded what we could-- 00:20:52.780 --> 00:20:54.344 there were licensing issues. 00:20:54.344 --> 00:20:57.944 We interviewed the elderly in the city, 00:20:57.944 --> 00:21:00.514 and this was done with local government. 00:21:00.514 --> 00:21:05.130 But these kind of local negotiations are harder 00:21:05.130 --> 00:21:09.550 than when you have a broader federal agent 00:21:09.550 --> 00:21:13.280 because then you can just trickle down to negotiation. 00:21:13.280 --> 00:21:17.525 But it was fun mostly, which is, of course, always important. 00:21:17.525 --> 00:21:19.725 It was very, very impactful. 00:21:19.725 --> 00:21:23.669 I think we've uploaded like 10,000 images in this process. 00:21:24.223 --> 00:21:26.062 (Erica) We have time for one more question. 00:21:34.758 --> 00:21:36.568 (person 3) Hello, thanks for your presentation. 00:21:36.568 --> 00:21:38.590 Just a very practical question. 00:21:38.590 --> 00:21:42.430 There was a link to training materials in your presentation. 00:21:42.430 --> 00:21:43.481 To what? 00:21:43.481 --> 00:21:45.241 - (person 3) To training materials. - Yes. 00:21:45.241 --> 00:21:46.785 (person 3) I just tried following the link, 00:21:46.785 --> 00:21:50.125 but it points to a Wikimedia Commons image file. 00:21:50.709 --> 00:21:53.909 I would be interested in having a look at the training materials. 00:21:54.059 --> 00:21:56.756 Are they in English or in Portuguese? 00:21:57.758 --> 00:22:00.962 - So, which one-- - (person 3) The previous one. Yeah. That one. 00:22:01.706 --> 00:22:06.503 Available here that points to a JPEG file on Wikimedia Commons. 00:22:06.503 --> 00:22:09.530 - (person) [inaudible]. - (João) Ah. Okay. This one? 00:22:09.530 --> 00:22:14.110 (person 3) Oh, yeah. This is-- no, sorry. I was looking for the training materials. 00:22:14.110 --> 00:22:15.770 (João) Ok. So, anyway. 00:22:15.770 --> 00:22:17.662 Somewhere--I will provide the link, so-- 00:22:17.662 --> 00:22:20.604 - (person 3) Or if you can put on the Etherpad. - (João) Yes. 00:22:20.604 --> 00:22:23.154 (person 3) 'Cause I'd be interested to see how that relates 00:22:23.154 --> 00:22:25.734 to what we tell GLAM institutions in Belgium. 00:22:25.734 --> 00:22:27.764 - (João) Sure. So-- - (person 3) Thank you. 00:22:27.765 --> 00:22:30.111 (João) Of course, and thanks for the question. 00:22:30.111 --> 00:22:33.381 And they are not all on YouTube 00:22:33.381 --> 00:22:36.671 because at some point, we didn't have the technology to stream, 00:22:36.671 --> 00:22:38.251 but now we do. 00:22:38.251 --> 00:22:40.791 And it was implemented, so I would say 00:22:40.791 --> 00:22:45.201 the last 8 trainings out of 20 are online, 00:22:45.201 --> 00:22:47.688 and some of them are in English. 00:22:47.688 --> 00:22:50.232 Some are in Portuguese, 00:22:50.232 --> 00:22:53.101 as we are targeting the local community, 00:22:53.208 --> 00:22:55.186 it's important for us that it's in Portuguese. 00:22:55.186 --> 00:22:58.718 And then some work needs to be done for subtitles, 00:22:58.718 --> 00:23:02.956 and there were 20 of these trainings-- 00:23:02.956 --> 00:23:09.574 all the material PDFs, links are on Wiki. 00:23:10.003 --> 00:23:11.268 So they are traceable, 00:23:11.268 --> 00:23:16.476 and the idea is that we meet in the morning, like 10 a.m, 00:23:16.476 --> 00:23:19.906 we have two hours of lectures, 00:23:19.906 --> 00:23:22.016 sometimes from someone in the local community 00:23:22.016 --> 00:23:24.465 sometimes from a guest even remotely. 00:23:25.055 --> 00:23:27.942 Then we learn something very specific, 00:23:27.942 --> 00:23:32.506 like how to do modeling when you have disagreeing data, 00:23:32.506 --> 00:23:33.896 like the last one, 00:23:33.896 --> 00:23:37.576 or how to implement an automated info box, 00:23:37.576 --> 00:23:40.390 how to run a Listeria, so stuff like that. 00:23:41.005 --> 00:23:44.075 And then we learn this, and during the afternoon 00:23:44.075 --> 00:23:48.307 up to 6 p.m, we implement this on our workflow. 00:23:48.670 --> 00:23:51.996 This is why I was saying there is this aspect of training and doing. 00:23:52.514 --> 00:23:55.754 So the content is available, so you can check, 00:23:55.754 --> 00:23:57.984 and I am sorry the link was broken. 00:23:57.984 --> 00:24:02.174 But, of course, it's provided, and it's on Commons and YouTube. 00:24:03.955 --> 00:24:05.850 (Erica) So that's it. We are out of time. 00:24:05.850 --> 00:24:07.859 Thank you very much for attending this session 00:24:07.859 --> 00:24:10.019 on GLAM-Wiki initiatives with Wikidata. 00:24:10.335 --> 00:24:13.505 And the Brazilian crew is still here, available for your questions, 00:24:13.505 --> 00:24:16.193 for discussion, all those things that we've been doing 00:24:16.193 --> 00:24:19.313 and thank you very much, João. So another round of applause, please. 00:24:19.313 --> 00:24:21.836 (applause)