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If I were a better artist or something, I would have really tried these many, hundreds of times.

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Different strings, and different situations, I didn't wanna know them too well.

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A lot of my work is about not being able to do something well.

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It tries to locate itself in a place where

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An appreciation of craft is not necessarily a part of the appreciation of the piece.

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I mean nobody could tell me how to do the craftsmanship that's in this piece.

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It comes, really, from inside.

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One of the important things about these pieces is where one string will cross another.

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And in some cases, they burn into the string underneath so in terms of purposes,

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They form a film, in other cases, they don't.

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Like in the last one, the first one sinks in by weight and the second one burns, staying on top.

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So the notion of being an illusion is also explained in this kind of seam of overlapping.

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And whether it's a real overlap or an illusion, or rather the real looks of an illusion,

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I mean, that's my favorite part of the whole piece. And maybe the whole piece is about.

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Because most of my work is non-illusionistic.

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And so the illusion, if there is an illusion, is actually real.

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But in these pieces, it gets turned around and the fun, the real kind of yuck yuck fun,

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Is when they actually, the real looks like an illusion- so the childlike quality.

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Okay. So that's happy, happy living together, I think.