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Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.44,0:00:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Andrea Zittel: Art & Design]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.84,0:00:24.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Joshua Tree is sort of unique;
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.49,0:00:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's two and a half hours from \NLos Angeles,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.25,0:00:29.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but on the edge of open desert.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.76,0:00:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you continue driving to the East,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.68,0:00:34.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it just completely opens up.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.09,0:00:38.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And everyone here kind of comes \Nfrom somewhere else.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.52,0:00:42.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been at Joshua Tree for \Nfourteen years.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.48,0:00:48.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to live in a community \Nthat was outside of the art world.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.57,0:00:58.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really think that design should \Ntalk about life and living.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.96,0:01:04.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's really sort of interesting talking \Nabout design, but through art.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.44,0:01:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every space that I've lived in, I've \Nturned into an art project.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.75,0:01:14.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, I think that everything in the house\Nhas really evolved with my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.05,0:01:18.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The original part of the house \Nis the kitchen.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.28,0:01:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then on the back side of the kitchen,\Nthere's a bedroom.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.50,0:01:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then when I bought it, I ended up \Nadding the room that we're standing in--
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.16,0:01:27.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this used to be the driveway--
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.71,0:01:31.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a bedroom for my son.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.80,0:01:38.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's this like other question, that I\Nask myself that comes up a lot too
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.41,0:01:43.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's like that question of why to\Nbe an artist and not a designer.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.60,0:01:47.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember thinking that if an art \Nhistorian, like a hundred years from now,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.56,0:01:49.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had to talk about my generation,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.56,0:01:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it would be almost impossible to talk\Nabout it
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.77,0:01:55.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in, sort of, a significant cultural sense
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.13,0:01:59.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without touching on what was going \Non in design at the same time.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.54,0:02:03.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's this, kind of, privileged position\Nof being an artist
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.46,0:02:07.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you can do things on a \Nmore experimental nature
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.23,0:02:10.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simply to see what happens.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.04,0:02:25.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, we have to order so \Nmany materials out here--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.51,0:02:27.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can't just go out and buy them.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.36,0:02:29.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And all these cardboard boxes would come in.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.11,0:02:32.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for a while, I just started \Nstacking the cardboard boxes on the wall
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.86,0:02:34.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and putting things in them,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.73,0:02:37.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and thinking about how I could actually turn\Nthem into,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.25,0:02:41.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like, some sort of more permanent structure.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.34,0:02:50.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that the ambiguity of how things are\Nmeant to be used is deliberate,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.76,0:02:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think it becomes one of the more interesting\Nparts of the work.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.56,0:03:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's really interesting if somebody\Nhas one of these in their house,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.84,0:03:06.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're going to decide if they want to keep\Nit pristine,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.46,0:03:08.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of like a Donald Judd sculpture;
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.45,0:03:11.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or, if they want to start piling it up with\Nbooks
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.55,0:03:15.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and stones that they find on trips \Nand stuff like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.38,0:03:19.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are some of my favorite works and, I\Nmean,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.31,0:03:20.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it comes back to the grid.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.91,0:03:25.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, I think that the grid is representative\Nof human aspirations.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.36,0:03:29.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, everything is based on the grid--
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.81,0:03:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the calendar, our schedules.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.68,0:03:35.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, it's about human perfection.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.94,0:03:39.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love the tension where, like, this is trying\Nto be perfect--
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.06,0:03:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when we make them, we try \Nand make them really perfect
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.60,0:03:44.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they just don't want to be.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.24,0:04:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did two really big exhibitions of weaving.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.17,0:04:06.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Weaving, I had always thought about conceptually
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.77,0:04:08.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's the grid.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.63,0:04:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They really seem like they have a lot of imperfections,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.76,0:04:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is part of the reason that they're so\Ninteresting.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.21,0:04:22.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We decided to do a really really big weaving.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.28,0:04:25.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We did a bunch of smaller ones and got really\Nconfident.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.77,0:04:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.25,0:04:28.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe artificially confident.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.51,0:04:32.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, like, in the process, we're having a\Nlot of problems with the warp.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.67,0:04:34.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZITTEL, OFF SCREEN] I hope somebody will\Nbe watching this, who will, like...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.69,0:04:35.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Yeah, oh those idiots, they shouldn't have\Ndone..."
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.81,0:04:37.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] "I can't believe they're doing that!"
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.06,0:04:37.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZITTEL] Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.56,0:04:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] Maybe they'll write in.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.80,0:04:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZITTEL] They'll tell us what to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.96,0:04:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] Exactly!
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.64,0:04:41.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZITTEL] It'll be awesome.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.42,0:04:42.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] Email us!
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.43,0:04:45.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZITTEL] The warp is getting really uneven\Nand stretched out,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.27,0:04:47.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so that's why we have all these blocks\Nof wood
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.27,0:04:50.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and pieces of rocks hanging from it.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.96,0:04:55.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the last few years, I've been working\Nwith the idea of a panel,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.26,0:04:57.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and trying to find the intersection between
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.54,0:05:03.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a very subtle, minimal object that's both\Nfine art and design.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.36,0:05:18.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You could say that design has power,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.05,0:05:21.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it actually touches people in a much\Nmore concrete way;
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.59,0:05:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but, I think that art has more wiggle room
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.28,0:05:27.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and more flexibility.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.06,0:05:33.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And maybe I am as interested in failure as\NI am in success.