FATHER: He was in college when he was in fifteen. LANDLADY: …he's different. I've never known anybody like him ever. And venture to say that I probably never will. MOTHER: Most of his art is actually writing. RAYMOND: I spend a lot more  time writing than I do drawing - I really wouldn't want to make that distinction or feel the need to separate the two. The fact is I make work that, that requires both. FATHER: all those books downstairs,  and the thousands we have, he reads those all the time. LANDLADY: he loved to find books that are, that they are underlined or highlighted because especially those people  might not even be alive any more, so it's like he gets to kind of shadow and find out what was interesting to  the people that have gone before him… RAYMOND: My writing is associational. You don't necessarily know where it's  going to go while you're doing it. Sometimes people, ah, comment that the, that there's such a disparity  between the image and the words… It mirrors the way I work overall quite a bit… LANDLADY: I'm not trying to  say he's a slob, it's just, that's the way he works and I believe  that he has to have his stuff around him, all around him like that to be able to work. That looks normal for him. But it’s just hysterical to me that in his mind, he felt that he would not make a mess at all. He’s eccentric at times, I would have to say. I have a special place in my heart for  him, I just think he’s a great guy. RAYMOND: This is gonna be a  coup, actually, seeing me… first, first known record or case of me actually arranging or kind  of cleaning up the place. It can't be a documentary though, because no one would believe it. LANDLADY: He just has a really broad  range of things that interest him, and it can be erotic to a bowl of fruit, A mind that can do that… that kind of broad spectrum  artistically has to be pretty busy with a lot of different things. MOTHER: It's a thinking  persons art, isn't it true? It's not just drawing pretty pictures, and he has all these ideas. RAYMOND: The way I think and the  way I talk and the way I write, it’s not very direct always. It can lead anywhere. I want it to be as fluent as possible. I mean, that’s a major part of my work. Almost like an athlete would exercise his muscles and do the same moves and get to a point where it becomes almost instinctive. Even though my work is usually  just, just one drawing, it is more of a narrative than  it is a cartoon with a punch line and a resolution and a laugh at the end. There still is an element of caricature  and cartoons that my work retains. Gumby represents an alter-ego  for my work as an artist. There’s actually a lot more  to that figure than just ninety-eight ounces of clay or whatever. In some of his cartoons he goes  into a biography or historical book and he interacts with real figures from the past. And I tend to do that in my  work and in my videos as well. You know, who for me, does more  than Gumby would be Vavoom. When I'm doing drawings of Vavoom,  putting him in this kind of epic, sublime, romantic  landscape and he is this little, little guy with a booming voice… I consider characters like Gumby or Vavoom, Felix the Cat, with respect, compared  to the President of the United States… this one or any or them, you know, really. And those are the real cartoon figures, and those are the real ridiculous figures. RAYMOND: There’s a very direct  kind of anger in some of my work. The pretentious, the powerful, decadent, corrupt. Those would tend to be people  who I don’t respect at all. It's a way of trying to  break down this natural awe with those heroes that comes  out of a sort of fear and envy… I've never considered myself  much of a political artist. And most of my art doesn't really deal  in like explicitly political issues. But you know, I'm not going to  apologize or shy away from it any, any more than I would any other subject. (Patty) Daddy, you never  taught me the facts of life. You never read me Marx. I grew up not knowing what  a worker is or what they do. Look at me now Daddy. Look at your little daughter. I’m out of the closet for good. The blindfold’s peeled off  for the first time in my life. RAYMOND: Patty Hearst and the SLA… it would really be impossible  I would think, for me anyway, to not treat it with broad comic aspect to it because the whole situation  was such a broad burlesque. And like a lot of the best humor, whether it's the Three Stooges or Molière, it's about someone who is  really strident or pretentious, and a lot of political groups from the sixties, seventies were so full of their own righteousness. It's hard to take that sort of thing seriously. If you can see it from any historical distance… If I'm going to be  condemned for broaching that subject from a comic angle that is,  that's completely absurd… to demonize them in particular when you had a war going on that was killing millions, I mean it's a way for me to  objectify the lines there. To even the playing field a little bit, rather than picking one enemy and demonizing them to basically cover your own ass. RAYMOND: Now if you could get me  on camera doing a straight line that would also be a historic shot. That's not going to happen here. If you do look at my, my  works, baseball for instance, there is a kind of larger than  life attitude to a lot of it. Not all the works are pure  adulation of the ball players. Baseball has probably been my  favorite since I was a child. The reason why I keep coming  back to certain images is probably most often that there's  a visual quality that works for me, whether you are throwing the  pitch or batting the ball you do have that sense of movement  and for an artist like myself, whose work is that one  moment, that can be important. My work on the subject does say a lot about what goes on off the field  as well about the society– it's kind of a microcosm  of the society as a whole. MOTHER: He draws a train and it can give you maybe hundred stories just looking at the train. RAYMOND: I think trains in my  work are particularly American. In this country, we still had vast frontiers left. It was about bringing the shores  together, about going west. Even when I was a kid, when  I heard the train at night it was like the equivalent of running  off and joining the circus, I guess. Every American kid kind of had that  somewhere in his mind and kind of embedded. Beyond that, it’s an image that works  well for the kind of drawings I do. RAYMOND: What you see is these motifs  that keep reoccurring in my work. They started as one image and for whatever reason, they did have this kind of resonance to  me and that brought them back and some of, some of them, you know,  have had a fairly long life. There is a kind of a strain in my work that  is usually described as like a film noir. There probably is more failure depicted  in my work then there is success. (Landlady) I find a lot of humor in his work, because the world’s kind of scary sometimes, and he tends to be able to make some  of the most horrible things funny. He’ll just flat out put it down on paper and then write something about  it and you can’t help but laugh. Ray: I don't like my humor to be in  the service of making fun of people based on superficialities just for the  sake of going for some cheap laugh. I won’t do that if it will hurt someone, if it’s based on things that  people have no control over. We as humans still so oftentimes feel the need to have someone to pick on, you know. RAYMOND: Art can be a kind of  therapeutic or kind of a fantasy life or, or wish fulfillment or creating  this alternate universe. Art to me is, gives me the freedom to do that. I don’t feel constrained by the subject matter… I welcome practically anything into the drawing. I think it’s work that is best when  there isn’t any final resolution. When you don't arrive.