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（穏やかなピアノ音楽）

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（メロウなジャズ）

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-最後にこの場所から写真を撮って

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２０年になります

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３年か４年の間

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この素晴らしい湾の写真を
撮り続けました

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これを出して

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フィルムを入れてっと

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驚きました

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人々はゴールデンゲートブリッジが

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いつでも同じと思っているかもしれません
しかし

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一つとして同じではないのです

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自身の仕事を振り返ること
それはタイムマシーンに乗ることです

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失われていたかもしれない記憶
それらが呼び覚まされます

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（はっきりしない話し声）

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-リチャードとは
感謝祭のディナーパーティーで出会いました

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（スイッチ音）
（映写機の回る音）

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親しくなったのは
マザー・ジョーンズの仕事で

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爆撃練習場の取材をした時です

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彼は当時そこで働いていました

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彼と一緒に旅したことについて

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多くを書いてきたのですが

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ある時からそれを読むべきかどうか
わからなくなっています

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-本番　アクション！

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-この冒険も１２年になった

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リチャードと共に絶景を巡る旅だ

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最も印象深かった場所

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それは世界の終末後の風景、ブラボー２０だ

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執拗にそして計画的に破壊された後の静寂

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彼と砂漠との友情は深まっていく

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不毛の地とみなされている景色

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全ては真理に繋がっている

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新しきものと古きものが共存しながら
ここでも地球は生きている

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雪のように輝く塩のベッド

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銀色と緑色の哨兵　白い砂丘

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どんな現代彫刻よりも前衛的な岩石層群

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彼は全てに対して
とても情熱的であり、

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同時にユーモアのセンスも持ち合わせていました

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♪モー　モー♪

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♪子を連れず♪

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♪独り立つ君を見たのさ♪

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今まで私から逃げたことなんてなかったのに（笑い声）

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-世界は思っていたより素晴らしかったのです

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（メロウなジャズ）

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-エリック、今からそちらへ行くよ
ピン留めしよう

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-オーケー

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-始めの頃ミリアンは私と一緒に旅をしました

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もしそうでなければ

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私の旅に誰も付いてこなかったでしょうね

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死骸捨て場や爆撃練習場

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原子力実験場などへ彼女は行きました

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ここは寒いね

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これらの場所は写真的関心だけでなく

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私が政治的関心を持つ場所でもあります

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-昔、彼に写真についてどう思うか
尋ねられたことがあります

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私は「美しいわ」と答えました

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すると彼は
「美しいってのは空っぽのシニフィエだ」と言いました

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私は「確かにそうね」と続けました

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-私が何を考えながら写真を撮ったか

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鑑賞者にはわからないと知っています
別に気にしません

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それは当然のことです

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しかし私はここに展示する全ての作品に

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概念的理念を持たせたいと考えています

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-仕方ないんです

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もしそれが十分に素晴らしくても

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その中にある特別性を探してしまうんです

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ハワイの同じ場所によく旅行に行きます

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しかし９/１１の起きた後彼は

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水の写真のことばかり考えています

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下を見てこのような人々を見ています

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-雄大で広大な海に小さな人影を見る時

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私たちがどれほどちっぽけか知るのです

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写真は撮られた時点から

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時と共に意味が変化する可能性があり
実際よくそうなります

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現時点で好きな写真はいっぱいありますが

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気が変わるかもしれないということもわかっています

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なので
撮り、確認し

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小さく印刷し
大きく印刷します

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それから放っておきます

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一年か二年になることもあります

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そうするとまるで初めて見たかのように
とても新鮮な気持ちで写真を見ることができます

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（平和な音楽）

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-リチャードのスタジオでもあり
最近まで私たちが住んでいた倉庫には

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暗く長い廊下があり

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ネガやベタ焼きが積まれた棚が

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所狭しと置いてあった

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何万もの数だ

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それらのほとんどに日が当たることはない
しかし

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全ては生命の可能性を秘めている

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私はそれらを休眠中の証人だと思っている

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それぞれが、ある瞬間のある場所を記録しているのだ

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リチャードにとってもそうだろうが、

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私にはそれらを捨てることができない

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写真家の謎は増すばかりだ

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（段ボールの擦れる音）

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-これらの棚には、
８インチX１０インチのネガが約３万枚あります

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まだプリントされたことのないネガです

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こちらの箱は連絡先です

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宝の山です

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未プリントの美しい写真を見つけました

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これは砂漠にいる美しい妻、ミリアンです

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実はこの写真はプリントできなかったのです

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傷が付いているかもしれないし

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色味が落ちているかもしれない

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だから仕舞っておいたままにしてありました

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現在のデジタル技術を用いれば

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写真をスキャンしてエラーを修復することができます

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この夜の空を見てください

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まだプリントしたことのないものです

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(メロウなジャズ)

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- 彼は時間が尽きかけていることに気づいたのだと思います

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だからできる限りのことをしたいんです

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彼はより実験的になりました

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既成概念を拡大しようとしています

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これまで慣れ親しんできた様式を

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手放しています

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”なぜだめなんだ？”

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”なぜやらないんだ？”
そうやって

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ルールを壊しています

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(活き活きとしたピアノ)

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- よし

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これをこっちに移動させよう

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長年続けてきた習慣にドライブがあります

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被写体を探しに２、３週間出かけるのです

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何年もそういったことを続けているうちに
実験の成果が形になり

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私に変化が起きました

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物事が違う風に見えてきたのです

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実験的に撮られた写真かどうか

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すぐにわかります

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元々は小枝や幹が這っている写真でしたが

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フォトショップを用いて

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色調を変化させました

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こうして異化された写真には

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新たな解釈が生まれます

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In some respects, this neuron scrub

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could look like a Jackson
Pollock painting, but it doesn't.

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You still have some realism there.

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You still have some
semblance of natural forms

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that you recognize.

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It's been interesting.

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Recently, I was commissioned
to do all of the art

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for the Pritzker Psychiatric
Clinic in San Francisco

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that's just being built and
I couldn't travel for that.

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- COVID happened at that
moment, and so what to do?

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He couldn't go out there
and photograph anew.

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He had to mine what he already had.

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- I got all the kinds of
ideas of taking old images

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and rethinking them in ways
I'd never thought about before.

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- "How can I bring life into them?"

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And before you know it,

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he was looking at all sorts of things

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that he probably would not ever
ever have considered before.

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Every day, he'd be sitting there and say,

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"Oh, you can't imagine what I found.

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Come and look at that.
Come and look at that."

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- I would make thousands of
experiments with Photoshop.

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I would just play with them,
experiment, fool around.

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Variations on variation.

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And the whole project took off from there.

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(mellow percussive music)

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- One of the big challenges
that we face in psychiatry

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in general, in medicine,

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and in really embracing
psychiatry's part of medicine,

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is this lack of care and respect
for inpatient facilities.

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There's just a very direct
opportunity to use art

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to say that we care.

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Beauty is important.

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We really hope that anyone
who walks in the door here

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can be uplifted by the
physical environment.

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That all of that will
contribute a sense of optimism

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and hope.

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- I'm in awe of the fact that
the Pritzker Clinic picked me.

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A lot of my work is very tough work.

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Things that could be a potential trigger.

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Not the kind of thing you would expect

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in a psychiatric clinic.

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I've dealt with very,
very challenging issues.

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Cancer alley, petrochemical
America, the border wall.

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But I always wanted to balance that

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with really beautiful things.

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Like the sea.

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Sky pictures.

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The Golden Gate Bridge.

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It's like a foil against the
darker projects that I've done.

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(distant waves crash)

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50 years, looking back,

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I realized I needed beauty in my life.

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- When he senses a photograph to be taken,

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his attention turns away
from everything else.

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"Time out", he asks politely.

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His face takes on a weird, strained air.

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It's the sort of face you make
when you're completely alone,

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unselfconscious.

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If he feels that you're
watching, he smiles,

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and occasionally apologizes.

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(camera shutter clicks)

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He is unsparing in his determination.

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Hours go by.

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He waits.

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We all wait.

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He waits for the light to do things.

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Things he has learned to
expect from experience.

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"Look over there", he'll call out,

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pointing to a section of cloudy sky.

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"In about five minutes,

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the light is going to be incredible."

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Often, there are surprises.

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(mellow jazz music)
(camera shutter clicks)

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(camera shutter clicks)

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(camera shutter clicks)

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(camera shutter clicks)