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（穏やかなピアノ音楽）

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（メロウなジャズ）

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-最後にこの場所から写真を撮って

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２０年になります

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３年か４年の間

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この素晴らしい湾の写真を[br]撮り続けました

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これを出して

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フィルムを入れてっと

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驚きました

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人々はゴールデンゲートブリッジが

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いつでも同じと思っているかもしれません[br]しかし

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一つとして同じではないのです

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自身の仕事を振り返ること[br]それはタイムマシーンに乗ることです

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失われていたかもしれない記憶[br]それらが呼び覚まされます

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（はっきりしない話し声）

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-リチャードとは[br]感謝祭のディナーパーティーで出会いました

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（スイッチ音）[br]（映写機の回る音）

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親しくなったのは[br]マザー・ジョーンズの仕事で

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爆撃練習場の取材をした時です

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彼は当時そこで働いていました

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彼と一緒に旅したことについて

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多くを書いてきたのですが

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ある時からそれを読むべきかどうか[br]わからなくなっています

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-本番　アクション！

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-この冒険も１２年になった

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リチャードと共に絶景を巡る旅だ

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最も印象深かった場所

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それは世界の終末後の風景、ブラボー２０だ

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執拗にそして計画的に破壊された後の静寂

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彼と砂漠との友情は深まっていく

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不毛の地とみなされている景色

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全ては真理に繋がっている

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新しきものと古きものが共存しながら[br]ここでも地球は生きている

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雪のように輝く塩のベッド

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銀色と緑色の哨兵　白い砂丘

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どんな現代彫刻よりも前衛的な岩石層群

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彼は全てに対して[br]とても情熱的であり、

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同時にユーモアのセンスも持ち合わせていました

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♪モー　モー♪

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♪子を連れず♪

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♪独り立つ君を見たのさ♪

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今まで私から逃げたことなんてなかったのに（笑い声）

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-世界は思っていたより素晴らしかったのです

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（メロウなジャズ）

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-エリック、今からそちらへ行くよ[br]ピン留めしよう

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-オーケー

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-始めの頃ミリアンは私と一緒に旅をしました

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もしそうでなければ

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私の旅に誰も付いてこなかったでしょうね

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死骸捨て場や爆撃練習場

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原子力実験場などへ彼女は行きました

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ここは寒いね

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これらの場所は写真的関心だけでなく

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私が政治的関心を持つ場所でもあります

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-昔、彼に写真についてどう思うか[br]尋ねられたことがあります

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私は「美しいわ」と答えました

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すると彼は[br]「美しいってのは空っぽのシニフィエだ」と言いました

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私は「確かにそうね」と続けました

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-私が何を考えながら写真を撮ったか

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鑑賞者にはわからないと知っています[br]別に気にしません

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それは当然のことです

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しかし私はここに展示する全ての作品に

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概念的理念を持たせたいと考えています

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-仕方ないんです

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もしそれが十分に素晴らしくても

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その中にある特別性を探してしまうんです

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ハワイの同じ場所によく旅行に行きます

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しかし９/１１の起きた後彼は

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水の写真のことばかり考えています

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下を見てこのような人々を見ています

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-雄大で広大な海に小さな人影を見る時

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私たちがどれほどちっぽけか知るのです

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写真は撮られた時点から

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時と共に意味が変化する可能性があり[br]実際よくそうなります

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現時点で好きな写真はいっぱいありますが

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気が変わるかもしれないということもわかっています

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なので[br]撮り、確認し

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小さく印刷し[br]大きく印刷します

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それから放っておきます

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一年か二年になることもあります

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そうするとまるで初めて見たかのように[br]とても新鮮な気持ちで写真を見ることができます

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（平和な音楽）

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-リチャードのスタジオでもあり[br]最近まで私たちが住んでいた倉庫には

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暗く長い廊下があり

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ネガやベタ焼きが積まれた棚が

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所狭しと置いてあった

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何万もの数だ

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それらのほとんどに日が当たることはない[br]しかし

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全ては生命の可能性を秘めている

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私はそれらを休眠中の証人だと思っている

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それぞれが、ある瞬間のある場所を記録しているのだ

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リチャードにとってもそうだろうが、

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私にはそれらを捨てることができない

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写真家の謎は増すばかりだ

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（段ボールの擦れる音）

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-これらの棚には、[br]８インチX１０インチのネガが約３万枚あります

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まだプリントされたことないネガです

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On this side here are boxes of contacts.[br]こちらの箱には連絡先が入っています

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There are so many gems in there.

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I found these beautiful images[br]I'd never printed before.

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This is my beautiful wife,[br]Myriam, in the desert.

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When I made these, I[br]couldn't really print them

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because they might have had a scratch,

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or the color might have been off.

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So I put them away and[br]I didn't throw them out.

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Now today, with digital technologies,

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it's possible to scan them and fix errors.

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Oh, look at these night skies.

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I've never printed these before.

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(mellow jazz music)

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- I just think he senses[br]that time is running out

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and he just wants to do more.

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He's become more experimental.

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He's open to pushing more boundaries.

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Just letting go of some of the structures

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that he'd lived by in the past.

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It's just like, "No, why not?"

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You know? Why not do that?

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Just, just break the rules.

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(energetic piano music)

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- Got it.

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Let's slide this one down that way.

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Part of my routine for many,[br]many years is for me to drive

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for two or three weeks[br]looking for photographs.

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In the meantime, though, I[br]have done experimental bodies

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of work over the years[br]that kind of shake me up,

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make me think about things differently.

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I would say that this[br]photograph comes out of that

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experimentation mode.

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The original image is like[br]twigs and branches on vegetation

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with a technique that I use in Photoshop

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to separate the color values.

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It unnormalizes it and allows

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for different kinds of interpretation.

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In some respects, this neuron scrub

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could look like a Jackson[br]Pollock painting, but it doesn't.

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You still have some realism there.

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You still have some[br]semblance of natural forms

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that you recognize.

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It's been interesting.

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Recently, I was commissioned[br]to do all of the art

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for the Pritzker Psychiatric[br]Clinic in San Francisco

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that's just being built and[br]I couldn't travel for that.

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- COVID happened at that[br]moment, and so what to do?

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He couldn't go out there[br]and photograph anew.

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He had to mine what he already had.

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- I got all the kinds of[br]ideas of taking old images

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and rethinking them in ways[br]I'd never thought about before.

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- "How can I bring life into them?"

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And before you know it,

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he was looking at all sorts of things

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that he probably would not ever[br]ever have considered before.

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Every day, he'd be sitting there and say,

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"Oh, you can't imagine what I found.

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Come and look at that.[br]Come and look at that."

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- I would make thousands of[br]experiments with Photoshop.

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I would just play with them,[br]experiment, fool around.

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Variations on variation.

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And the whole project took off from there.

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(mellow percussive music)

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- One of the big challenges[br]that we face in psychiatry

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in general, in medicine,

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and in really embracing[br]psychiatry's part of medicine,

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is this lack of care and respect[br]for inpatient facilities.

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There's just a very direct[br]opportunity to use art

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to say that we care.

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Beauty is important.

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We really hope that anyone[br]who walks in the door here

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can be uplifted by the[br]physical environment.

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That all of that will[br]contribute a sense of optimism

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and hope.

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- I'm in awe of the fact that[br]the Pritzker Clinic picked me.

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A lot of my work is very tough work.

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Things that could be a potential trigger.

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Not the kind of thing you would expect

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in a psychiatric clinic.

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I've dealt with very,[br]very challenging issues.

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Cancer alley, petrochemical[br]America, the border wall.

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But I always wanted to balance that

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with really beautiful things.

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Like the sea.

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Sky pictures.

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The Golden Gate Bridge.

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It's like a foil against the[br]darker projects that I've done.

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(distant waves crash)

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50 years, looking back,

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I realized I needed beauty in my life.

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- When he senses a photograph to be taken,

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his attention turns away[br]from everything else.

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"Time out", he asks politely.

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His face takes on a weird, strained air.

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It's the sort of face you make[br]when you're completely alone,

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unselfconscious.

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If he feels that you're[br]watching, he smiles,

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and occasionally apologizes.

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(camera shutter clicks)

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He is unsparing in his determination.

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Hours go by.

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He waits.

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We all wait.

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He waits for the light to do things.

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Things he has learned to[br]expect from experience.

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"Look over there", he'll call out,

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pointing to a section of cloudy sky.

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"In about five minutes,

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the light is going to be incredible."

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Often, there are surprises.

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(mellow jazz music)[br](camera shutter clicks)

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(camera shutter clicks)

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(camera shutter clicks)

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(camera shutter clicks)